paleo diet
kazzykazz75
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Anyone tried and has it worked for you
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Any diet which has you in a caloric deficit (eating less calories than you burn) works. Paleo won't make you lose weight/fat any quicker or more efficiently than any other diet/way of eating though.7
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Hey Kazzy, I haven't tried it, but there is a paleo group which could be a good source of information for you:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/37-primal-paleo-support-group1 -
I tried paleo for a few months, once you get past the first week of carb withdraw symptoms (tired/cranky/headache/foggy head) I actually felt extremely well, energized, slept a lot better.
Ultimately though, I found it unsustainable... Just TOO much time in the kitchen for me. I know a lot of people love it, though!
I did learn some lovely recipes I still make. Mm, paleo pancakes.1 -
I did it for a while and enjoyed it well enough (it wasn't particularly low carb, though). I lost weight at the rate I wanted, but same was true when I stopped doing it since I realized I didn't really have a good reason to cut out dairy and legumes and my main reason re grains was just not to mindlessly eat them/eat them when they weren't worth the calories, which was easy to stop.0
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I tried it and enjoyed it. I lost 8lbs in 3 weeks and was not going low carb. I was breastfeeding and ate plenty of potatoes and even white rice. I was actually thinking about revisiting it. You'll have to draw your own conclusions, but some thoughts I have for my 2nd run are as follows:
1. Eat whole foods
2. I need to eat less sugar, even "natural" ones. Sugar is not good for me
3. Rice is not addictive nor does it cause me to overeat, unless topped with Chinese food
4. Roasted sweet potatoes and butternut squash taste like candy after a while. Seriously, I got some a little dark, and I swear it tasted like a burnt marshmallows, yum!
5. I will over eat nuts, so only bring to work in portioned out bags.
6. My tummy was happier
7. My biggest lesson- I don't have to be fanatical. I spent a lot of time and money the first time buying ingredients to make ketchup and homemade mayo. While maybe not awesome for you, store bought mayo will not kill me. Unless someone calls the paleo policeAlso, that just tends to make things tastier, which can lead to me overeating (there's a real pattern here)
Good luck! @kazzykazz If you try it let us know how it goes6 -
jasperdog52554 wrote: »7. My biggest lesson- I don't have to be fanatical. I spent a lot of time and money the first time buying ingredients to make ketchup and homemade mayo. While maybe not awesome for you, store bought mayo will not kill me. Unless someone calls the paleo policeAlso, that just tends to make things tastier, which can lead to me overeating (there's a real pattern here)
Good luck! @kazzykazz If you try it let us know how it goes
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I think this is good advice but it is advice to veer from the Paleo Diet rules, which are pretty fanatical and strict.0 -
To follow up Need2's point, I agree with the following (for me), but found that doing it had nothing to do with doing paleo or not, which is part of why I don't see the point of paleo:jasperdog52554 wrote: »1. Eat whole foods
As for:4. Rice is not addictive nor does it cause me to overeat, unless topped with Chinese food
8. My biggest lesson- I don't have to be fanatical. I spent a lot of time and money the first time buying ingredients to make ketchup and homemade mayo. While maybe not awesome for you, store bought mayo will not kill me. Unless someone calls the paleo policeAlso, that just tends to make things tastier, which can lead to me overeating (there's a real pattern here)
I wholeheartedly agree (I also, personally, will never overeat pasta, unless for the toppings, bread, or legumes). I didn't do it on paleo, but in the past I was really into "eating naturally" (probably my version of clean eating, although I never used that term) and was really obsessive about making everything myself, not buying packaged, not even buying canned tomatoes out of season or canned beans or dried pasta. It was overkill for my lifestyle. Now I do some of that stuff if the product is actually more to my liking or its fun, but I don't drive myself crazy.
Again, though, this is why I don't see the point of paleo -- cutting out whole grains and rice (I rarely eat it, but I think it's fine) and legumes and dairy weren't necessary. If they react badly for you, cut them out, absolutely, but not because of some theory about what people ate a certain number of years ago (which is likely wrong).4. I need to eat less sugar, even "natural" ones. Sugar is not good for me
Cool. Not the case for me, and I'd probably continue to eat the same amount of fruit and sweet potatoes and plantains on paleo as I do now (for some high sugar foods).6. Roasted sweet potatoes and butternut squash taste like candy after a while. Seriously, I got some a little dark, and I swear it tasted like a burnt marshmallows, yum!
7. I will over eat nuts, so only bring to work in portioned out bags.
Agree that roasted sweet potatoes and winter squash are delicious and that I can easily overeat nuts.
Other things I personally like about paleo are the focus on the sourcing of meat, eating more game when available, eating the whole animal. If one is going to eat lots of meat, as many into paleo do, these are good things to think about. Of course, one doesn't have to be paleo to think about them!0 -
I definitely feel like it was a good thing to try, if nothing else for some self discovery. As a family we eat more vegetables and less boxed crap as a whole, and it helped me to identify things that contribute to my overeating.1
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@lemurcat12 just curious, do you follow a "woe" or are you a IIFYM or something else?
I really would like to be an "everything in moderation girl when I grow up.
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Hi my friend!
You know that I am a big believer in crafting your own diet/eating plan because that is the diet YOU can live with. Paleo, like other diet plans, restrict certain foods. I refuse to live without dairy, whole grains, and legumes. Some of the low carb diets have fruit restrictions. I do count carbs, but since I don't consumed cookies, cake, candy, and sugary drinks, fruit is my dessert! I can't live without fruit! My eating plan is a combination of several diets. I'd like to think I took something good from the Paleo diet and many of the other popular ones to craft an eating plan that I can live with for the rest of my life. No need for a maintenance phase or yo-yo dieting. One plan that works!
Best wishes on your research,
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I am Paleo roughly 60% of the time.3
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jasperdog52554 wrote: »@lemurcat12 just curious, do you follow a "woe" or are you a IIFYM or something else?
I really would like to be an "everything in moderation girl when I grow up.
I guess I'd say I have a nutrition-conscious flexible diet, since I am into the moderation approach and don't really follow macros other than protein. I have my own personal ideas about how I like to eat that I follow -- focus on getting vegetables and protein at all meals, eating locally and seasonally when possible, mostly cooking from whole foods but not being a stickler if life or my own laziness interferes (and I do like going out to eat if the restaurant or the company is worth it!). I also try different things from time to time (right now trying to cut way back on meat, at least non fish meat).
I enjoyed paleo when I did it, but I realized the things I liked I was doing anyway, or could, and the things I was doing just because paleo (cutting out all grains, legumes, and dairy) weren't really helpful for me or things I would recommend in general.1 -
I try to eat mostly "paleo." I've found that when I stick to meat/fish, veggies, fruit, and natural sugars (like fruit sugars and honey) that I feel better. I have more energy, no bloating, no heartburn, no upset stomach, etc. When I eat a lot of simple carbs like white sugar and bread, or if I eat greasy things, I don't feel as good physically or mentally, and my clothes won't fit as well- even if I'm still losing weight!!! I do believe in "everything in moderation" but I have an extremely hard time moderating. My mind likes to justify things, and I end up stressed out trying to figure out things like "Can I have that ice cream? Did I earn it? Just one scoop, or two? What if I go for a walk first, or eat salad for dinner?" The simplicity of paleo "rules" cuts out the debate, and actually decreases my stress levels as a result.
That being said, I now make exceptions. I'll drink on weekends, or order whatever I want if I'm eating out (which is rare), and I'll splurge if we have a get-together with friends. But during the week, and for most weekend meals, I stick to the foods that make me feel good- that happens to be pretty much paleo. While it may be too strict for some people, I appreciate the simplicity, have enjoyed finding new recipes, and I feel so much better that it's something I actually WANT to follow.2 -
Fruits are simple carbs, too.
And aren't a lot of fruits off limits with Paleo? I thought they were...
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I like that paleo gets people to focus on whole foods...I dislike how it then turns around and makes certain whole foods off limits. I could never do it...I love legumes and they are a core staple of my diet...but apparently they're "bad"...I think they're an excellent source of quality nutrition.I tried paleo for a few months, once you get past the first week of carb withdraw symptoms (tired/cranky/headache/foggy head) I actually felt extremely well, energized, slept a lot better.
Ultimately though, I found it unsustainable... Just TOO much time in the kitchen for me. I know a lot of people love it, though!
I did learn some lovely recipes I still make. Mm, paleo pancakes.
Paleo isn't low carb unless you want it to be.1 -
Fruits are simple carbs, too.
And aren't a lot of fruits off limits with Paleo? I thought they were...
Ah, you're right about fruit being a simple carb, which is probably why some paleo "diets" don't allow certain fruits, or they significantly limit it. I think at this point "paleo" has come to mean different things to different people. For me personally, I cut out alcohol, grains, legumes, dairy, and sugar (except fruit) 100% for a month. I loved how I felt so much. Afterwards, I went back to "everything in moderation." I stuck to my cal limit and continued to lose weight, but my wedding ring and jeans felt tighter, and I started getting heartburn again. I didn't have as much energy either and getting up in the morning was rough.
So now I eat meat/fish, veggies, fruit, eggs, and use honey and dates as sweeteners. I limit cheese but do include a little sprinkle of it on salads or in certain recipes- but I don't put it on everything like I used to, and I rarely make a cheese-heavy recipe. I eat legumes too because my body doesn't seem to have any issues with those, not that I can tell anyway. Everything else I try to keep to special occasions, with a little extra flexibility on weekends so I can have some wine
I guess you could say I did a strict paleo thing for a while and now follow a "mostly paleo" plan that's been adapted based on how I've found I react (both physically and mentally) to certain foods.1 -
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I like that paleo gets people to focus on whole foods...I dislike how it then turns around and makes certain whole foods off limits. I could never do it...I love legumes and they are a core staple of my diet...but apparently they're "bad"...I think they're an excellent source of quality nutrition.
Exactly. I'm glad I did a strict paleo thing for a while because I felt so amazing afterwards, and I feel like I can now better trust my body to tell me when I'm making decisions that aren't good for me- I feel the difference. Some people have sensitivities to legumes, but I don't, so I still eat them. On the other hand, dairy sets my allergies off. That doesn't mean dairy is evil but for me personally, it's something I've learned I should limit. I think paleo can be a great learning tool, and can help develop healthy habits, but I agree- to be so hardcode about it that whole foods like legumes and fruit are considered "bad" is not healthy.
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Kazzy,
Moxie42 is right. Paleo has come to mean different things to different people. Please see the link I shared above regarding the Paleo Diet. Starchy vegetables like squash, white potatoes, beets, and sweet potatoes are forbidden. Most fruit are acceptable, but you are told to limit your intake if you want to lose weight. Everyone on Paleo is not trying to lose weight. Paleo is a lifestyle for some.
Here is an excerpt of a quick reference guide:
EAT
Grass-fed meats
Fish/seafood
Fresh fruits
Fresh vegetables
Eggs
Nuts
Seeds
Healthy oils (olive, walnut, flaxseed, macadamia, avocado, coconut)
DON’T EAT
Cereal grains
Legumes (including peanuts)
Dairy
Refined sugar
Potatoes
Processed foods
Overly salty foods
Refined vegetable oils
Candy/junk/processed food
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »jasperdog52554 wrote: »7. My biggest lesson- I don't have to be fanatical. I spent a lot of time and money the first time buying ingredients to make ketchup and homemade mayo. While maybe not awesome for you, store bought mayo will not kill me. Unless someone calls the paleo policeAlso, that just tends to make things tastier, which can lead to me overeating (there's a real pattern here)
Good luck! @kazzykazz If you try it let us know how it goes
Re: #7
I think this is good advice but it is advice to veer from the Paleo Diet rules, which are pretty fanatical and strict.
For me, I did paleo on and off for about 3 years. I definitely saw some great results (periodic weight loss, energy boost, better digestion) but couldn't keep it up. For me, it wasn't just willpower to stay on the diet that was hard, it was psychologically punishing/oppressive/isolating.
I think its very difficult for humans to completely rule out a food group - unless for medical reasons (recommended by the doctor or a legit harmful addiction). Not only will you start to obsess about the food you cannot absolutely EVER eat...its also psychologically damaging because you often have to turn away meals from friends/family, holiday meals, going out.
When you are eating in moderation and portions you can at least partake (if you want to). If you want to follow paleo 100%, the off limit food are 100% a no go.
Some Paleo people even preach that even the slightest cheat (a drop of milk, or slice of bread) will ruin your results and ruin your gut health...The strict paleo community will say the 80% / 20% rule is **kitten**
Do I think Paleo is bad - absolutely not. Did it work for me? I can say after 3 years of trying, many books bought, many attempts to live the lifestyle - no, it did not work for me.
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^^^ to add: for me Paleo turned into this never ending cycle of strict adherence ("yeah girl I'll do that 30 day paleo challenge!"), and failure. I wasn't satisfied and became straight up board eating vegetables, fat, some carb, and protein. Bordem and extreme willpower = failure.
I went from 185-215 in 2 years time frame yo yo paleo-ing.
I only know a handful of dozens of friends that have made it a lifestyle. I used to crossfit which promotes paleo hardcore. I only know a handful of the many many many (maybe 100's) of folks who tried paleo challenges that actually stuck with it.0 -
My husband I did whole30 and then transitioned into paleo for a while. it was really hard to maintain with a family (for me). I did not want to eat different meals than my kids; and paleo lunches weren't being eaten from their lunch boxes.
I try to stick to vegetable heavy meals with some lean meats and something carb-o-licious0 -
I would also say that paleo in no way leads to default weight loss...I know a couple who have been strict adherents to paleo for more than three years and have gained a little weight largely because they are of the mentality that since it's paleo approved food and they are not eating wheat/gluten they can eat however much they want...they are avid runners as well...I would have thought they'd figure it out by now.0
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How long did cavemen live? Is that the example to follow?0
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In general cavemen were stronger, taller, more muscular and better built with less tooth decay than modern man- and had larger brains (our brains are shrinking btw). Some genetic evidence points to less mental illness too. The average lifespan was shorter due to factors such as no antibiotics, no modern health care etc. and higher rates of infant mortality bring the average down.
I think the case can be made for learning lessons from paleo-nutrition.0 -
75poundstogo wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »jasperdog52554 wrote: »7. My biggest lesson- I don't have to be fanatical. I spent a lot of time and money the first time buying ingredients to make ketchup and homemade mayo. While maybe not awesome for you, store bought mayo will not kill me. Unless someone calls the paleo policeAlso, that just tends to make things tastier, which can lead to me overeating (there's a real pattern here)
Good luck! @kazzykazz If you try it let us know how it goes
Re: #7
I think this is good advice but it is advice to veer from the Paleo Diet rules, which are pretty fanatical and strict.
For me, I did paleo on and off for about 3 years. I definitely saw some great results (periodic weight loss, energy boost, better digestion) but couldn't keep it up. For me, it wasn't just willpower to stay on the diet that was hard, it was psychologically punishing/oppressive/isolating.
I think its very difficult for humans to completely rule out a food group - unless for medical reasons (recommended by the doctor or a legit harmful addiction). Not only will you start to obsess about the food you cannot absolutely EVER eat...its also psychologically damaging because you often have to turn away meals from friends/family, holiday meals, going out.
When you are eating in moderation and portions you can at least partake (if you want to). If you want to follow paleo 100%, the off limit food are 100% a no go.
Some Paleo people even preach that even the slightest cheat (a drop of milk, or slice of bread) will ruin your results and ruin your gut health...The strict paleo community will say the 80% / 20% rule is **kitten**
Do I think Paleo is bad - absolutely not. Did it work for me? I can say after 3 years of trying, many books bought, many attempts to live the lifestyle - no, it did not work for me.
It doesn't matter much to me what strangers eat, but I do think the Paleo Diet is bad. I think any person, diet, book, blog, etc. that preaches that legumes are unhealthy is bad. There is zero science to back it up.
But that's just my opinion. Everyone should feel free to eat what they want.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »75poundstogo wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »jasperdog52554 wrote: »7. My biggest lesson- I don't have to be fanatical. I spent a lot of time and money the first time buying ingredients to make ketchup and homemade mayo. While maybe not awesome for you, store bought mayo will not kill me. Unless someone calls the paleo policeAlso, that just tends to make things tastier, which can lead to me overeating (there's a real pattern here)
Good luck! @kazzykazz If you try it let us know how it goes
Re: #7
I think this is good advice but it is advice to veer from the Paleo Diet rules, which are pretty fanatical and strict.
For me, I did paleo on and off for about 3 years. I definitely saw some great results (periodic weight loss, energy boost, better digestion) but couldn't keep it up. For me, it wasn't just willpower to stay on the diet that was hard, it was psychologically punishing/oppressive/isolating.
I think its very difficult for humans to completely rule out a food group - unless for medical reasons (recommended by the doctor or a legit harmful addiction). Not only will you start to obsess about the food you cannot absolutely EVER eat...its also psychologically damaging because you often have to turn away meals from friends/family, holiday meals, going out.
When you are eating in moderation and portions you can at least partake (if you want to). If you want to follow paleo 100%, the off limit food are 100% a no go.
Some Paleo people even preach that even the slightest cheat (a drop of milk, or slice of bread) will ruin your results and ruin your gut health...The strict paleo community will say the 80% / 20% rule is **kitten**
Do I think Paleo is bad - absolutely not. Did it work for me? I can say after 3 years of trying, many books bought, many attempts to live the lifestyle - no, it did not work for me.
It doesn't matter much to me what strangers eat, but I do think the Paleo Diet is bad. I think any person, diet, book, blog, etc. that preaches that legumes are unhealthy is bad. There is zero science to back it up.
But that's just my opinion. Everyone should feel free to eat what they want.
Yea, I tend to agree. I don't know that I would say "bad" as I do think that a healthy diet can be obtained without legumes. I think "Pointless" would the word I would use to describe it. It just makes hitting macros and micros a bit harder without any real reason.2 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »75poundstogo wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »jasperdog52554 wrote: »7. My biggest lesson- I don't have to be fanatical. I spent a lot of time and money the first time buying ingredients to make ketchup and homemade mayo. While maybe not awesome for you, store bought mayo will not kill me. Unless someone calls the paleo policeAlso, that just tends to make things tastier, which can lead to me overeating (there's a real pattern here)
Good luck! @kazzykazz If you try it let us know how it goes
Re: #7
I think this is good advice but it is advice to veer from the Paleo Diet rules, which are pretty fanatical and strict.
For me, I did paleo on and off for about 3 years. I definitely saw some great results (periodic weight loss, energy boost, better digestion) but couldn't keep it up. For me, it wasn't just willpower to stay on the diet that was hard, it was psychologically punishing/oppressive/isolating.
I think its very difficult for humans to completely rule out a food group - unless for medical reasons (recommended by the doctor or a legit harmful addiction). Not only will you start to obsess about the food you cannot absolutely EVER eat...its also psychologically damaging because you often have to turn away meals from friends/family, holiday meals, going out.
When you are eating in moderation and portions you can at least partake (if you want to). If you want to follow paleo 100%, the off limit food are 100% a no go.
Some Paleo people even preach that even the slightest cheat (a drop of milk, or slice of bread) will ruin your results and ruin your gut health...The strict paleo community will say the 80% / 20% rule is **kitten**
Do I think Paleo is bad - absolutely not. Did it work for me? I can say after 3 years of trying, many books bought, many attempts to live the lifestyle - no, it did not work for me.
It doesn't matter much to me what strangers eat, but I do think the Paleo Diet is bad. I think any person, diet, book, blog, etc. that preaches that legumes are unhealthy is bad. There is zero science to back it up.
But that's just my opinion. Everyone should feel free to eat what they want.
Yea, I tend to agree. I don't know that I would say "bad" as I do think that a healthy diet can be obtained without legumes. I think "Pointless" would the word I would use to describe it. It just makes hitting macros and micros a bit harder without any real reason.
I think a healthy diet can be obtained without legumes too. But I still think it's reckless, inappropriate, unhelpful, and just plain wrong to say legumes are unhealthy. Therefore, it gets a bad label from me. Bad, bad, bad, baddity, bad! I fart in it's general direction!2 -
Whitezombiegirl wrote: »In general cavemen were stronger, taller, more muscular and better built with less tooth decay than modern man- and had larger brains (our brains are shrinking btw). Some genetic evidence points to less mental illness too. The average lifespan was shorter due to factors such as no antibiotics, no modern health care etc. and higher rates of infant mortality bring the average down.
I think the case can be made for learning lessons from paleo-nutrition.
Taller? References please.1
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