Going Vegan
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Should I go Vegan? I know it is the right thing to do because of animal rights, but I'm scared. You're probably asking why I'm scared. Good question. I'm scared to fail. What if o can't do it. I can go without eating red meat, but chicken is my life. I also love cheese but I don't eat it as much because it's not healthy. What do you guys think? Let me know- also let me know some good recipes.
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Personally I'm against it but, it's far too controversial and I can't really be bothered having a full blown debate with anyone tonight so..
Good luck
Just, do your research first!
(Quick edit - I'm against going vegan on 'ethical' grounds, not medical)0 -
I gotta have my chicken ,pork, beef, and eggs and fish. To each their own but I like my animal products ethical or not0
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If you are interested in becoming vegan read or watch Fork's over Knives or Skinny *kitten*. They are really insightful.2
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everyone should be vegan
so yes you should be vegan
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Why not just cut out read meat and slowly cut out other things rather than going cold turkey? (pun intended) Or source the little meat you ear from a local farmer?0
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ginthebombshellks wrote: »read or watch Fork's over Knives
This has to be the worst advice in the entire thread so far. Watching an unbelievably biased "documentary" on the consumption of animal products is not the right way to approach veganism. For those who would like to go vegan for ethical or moral reasons, go for it, I fully support you, but there is no good, solid argument to be made for health advantages of veganism, so don't go vegan because of that.2 -
salembambi wrote: »everyone should be vegan
so yes you should be vegan
Everyone should live within their means and people should stop murdering each other, but that's not going to happen either...3 -
salembambi wrote: »everyone should be vegan
so yes you should be vegan
Everyone should live within their means and people should stop murdering each other, but that's not going to happen either...
wow amazing i didn't know that
you really showed me i guess
i better start eating animal products again since people will keep being murdered and attempting to live within their means anyways
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You should check out Frank Medrano.
He's vegan, very strong, and has a lot of good tips for building yourself up in fitness.0 -
My niece tried to go vegan. It's hard...and expensive.0
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no, animals are tasty0
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I was once a vegan.
.... then I remembered that the Taco Cabana was offering their Carnitas Special of the week.
yeah, the whole vegan idea lasted about 20 minutes. *shrug0 -
Watch some chicken slaughterhouse videos. You'll stop eating chicken if you care about animal rights. Chickens get the worst treatment of all. Debeaked and then throw into wire cages where they go crazy and defecate all over each other.
Sometimes I wonder why I eat that *kitten* but teriyaki bowls are good. Chicken kebab with rice is good.
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AskTracyAnnK28 wrote: »My niece tried to go vegan. It's hard...and expensive.
The difficulty of it is pretty subjective, but I'd like to point out that you can eat very cheaply as a vegan or very expensively -- it comes down to what you choose to eat. A diet centered on things like vegetables, fruit, grains, and beans will meet nutritional needs and can be very inexpensive. If you choose to buy a lot of fancy vegan products or pre-made things, it can be expensive. But a non-vegan diet with lots of fancy products and pre-made things will be expensive too.
I can eat for under $20 a week as a vegan.
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The successful vegans I know who have stuck with it over the years and with no backsliding are people who have always had a natural aversion to meat and never really liked it, even when they were kids. As adults, you'll hear them say things like "Eeew. Meat is so disgusting. The thought of putting an animal carcass, or anything that comes from an animal, in my mouth makes me want to gag."
I used to think they were just joshing but I think they really are serious about that. It's the way they stay on track, which is a good thing for a vegan commitment I think.
Folks I've known who love the taste of meat, love the smell of it cooking and report feeling well while eating it have not made successful, long term commitments to veganism.
ETA: I'm sure there are exceptions to my observations above and maybe we'll hear from them on this thread.
I am an exception, although I don't know if it is a true exception as I know many other successful vegans who enjoyed eating animal products too. I loved meat, eggs, and dairy and felt great while eating them. I've been vegan for ten years now despite liking the taste of those things.1 -
The successful vegans I know who have stuck with it over the years and with no backsliding are people who have always had a natural aversion to meat and never really liked it, even when they were kids. As adults, you'll hear them say things like "Eeew. Meat is so disgusting. The thought of putting an animal carcass, or anything that comes from an animal, in my mouth makes me want to gag."
I used to think they were just joshing but I think they really are serious about that. It's the way they stay on track, which is a good thing for a vegan commitment I think.
Folks I've known who love the taste of meat, love the smell of it cooking and report feeling well while eating it have not made successful, long term commitments to veganism.
ETA: I'm sure there are exceptions to my observations above and maybe we'll hear from them on this thread.
weird cause i grew up loving meat & my dad is even a hunter so i ate all kinds of animals . went vegetarian at 16 and have now been vegan 5 years
so not sure that is true that only people who did not love to eat meat can be successful and change ,cause i am now one of those people who gags when i just smell dairy or meat bllaagh0 -
ginthebombshellks wrote: »read or watch Fork's over Knives
This has to be the worst advice in the entire thread so far. Watching an unbelievably biased "documentary" on the consumption of animal products is not the right way to approach veganism. For those who would like to go vegan for ethical or moral reasons, go for it, I fully support you, but there is no good, solid argument to be made for health advantages of veganism, so don't go vegan because of that.
Fork's over Knives can be motivational but I agree there's not alot of actually facts to back it up.
Eating vegan is one of the healthiest diets out there (unless you only eat junk food). Why would you think it is not?
There is alot of false information about being vegan, for example, not needing much protein or getting all your B12 from plants (Both of which are not true). But there is always misinformation about diets which is true about every diet out there. If you know what your diet is missing, regardless of being vegan, you can make up for it.
OP - I would suggest going vegetarian first and see how that works for you, which I would start by supplementing chicken, something like, 3 or 4 days a week. 1 cup of lentils = the protein and calories from 3 eggs.
Also being vegan can be very cheap. A huge portion of the diet can be beans and legumes (for protein and fiber) which are cheap and easy to cook.1 -
Well, why don't you try it? If you fail, the world doesn't end. And when you succeed, you're doing much more than if you never tried at all.3
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I think you just said you don't care about animal rights in a round about way. I'm sure that wasn't the intent though.ClubSilencio wrote: »Watch some chicken slaughterhouse videos. You'll stop eating chicken if you care about animal rights. Chickens get the worst treatment of all. Debeaked and then throw into wire cages where they go crazy and defecate all over each other.
Sometimes I wonder why I eat that *kitten* but teriyaki bowls are good. Chicken kebab with rice is good.
I like chicken personally. I eat it 5-6 times a week. I don't think watching a video will deter me from continuing to eat it. I don't necessarily care for how it smells or feels in a raw state, but I dont eat it raw so that doesnt matter.
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salembambi wrote: »salembambi wrote: »everyone should be vegan
so yes you should be vegan
Everyone should live within their means and people should stop murdering each other, but that's not going to happen either...
wow amazing i didn't know that
you really showed me i guess
i better start eating animal products again since people will keep being murdered and attempting to live within their means anyways
Nice! Turned another one! Lmao0 -
ginthebombshellks wrote: »read or watch Fork's over Knives
This has to be the worst advice in the entire thread so far. Watching an unbelievably biased "documentary" on the consumption of animal products is not the right way to approach veganism. For those who would like to go vegan for ethical or moral reasons, go for it, I fully support you, but there is no good, solid argument to be made for health advantages of veganism, so don't go vegan because of that.
Fork's over Knives can be motivational but I agree there's not alot of actually facts to back it up.
Eating vegan is one of the healthiest diets out there (unless you only eat junk food). Why would you think it is not?
I never said eating vegan was less healthy, just that it's not necessarily healthier than eating a balanced diet consisting of animal based foods. Basically every study or article you read that "shows" a vegan diet to be healthier shows a correlation between eating meat or animal products, and heart disease, or obesity, etc. Unfortunately those articles and studies fail to control for the fact that people who consume animal products tend to eat higher amounts of dietary cholesterol while having much lower fiber intakes. If you fail to control for those variables, your results are going to be highly flawed.1 -
If you decide to go let me know how hard it is....been thinking about it but meat is like a staple for me idk if I could do it lol0
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http://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html
As an adult I see no issue with someone going Vegan. Its all about choices.
I personally love my chicken, beef, pork, eggs and fish and I wont be satiated with the vegan options. Just my Opinion. To each their own. Good luck.
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So you want to go vegan for animal rights. That's interesting.
Just for a reminder, as an omnivore, you CAN get energy from consuming either plant based or animal based things. Humans can even incorporate algae, fungi, and bacteria as a food source with success.
Perhaps since you are struggling between your kind heart and your omnivore desires, the real question is not should I go vegan, but instead how do I have compassion and kind treatment for all living creatures, even the ones who will die so I can get my nutrients and energy?
I don't have an answer, but I promise I will keep looking in every basket of chicken wings and glass of beer I consume watching MMA until I can find an answer or forget the question in a drunken stupor.0 -
Jonesingmucho wrote: »So you want to go vegan for animal rights. That's interesting.
Just for a reminder, as an omnivore, you CAN get energy from consuming either plant based or animal based things. Humans can even incorporate algae, fungi, and bacteria as a food source with success.
Perhaps since you are struggling between your kind heart and your omnivore desires, the real question is not should I go vegan, but instead how do I have compassion and kind treatment for all living creatures, even the ones who will die so I can get my nutrients and energy?
I don't have an answer, but I promise I will keep looking in every basket of chicken wings and glass of beer I consume watching MMA until I can find an answer or forget the question in a drunken stupor.
Interesting view on vegans... Since you are opposed to vegan eating, you probably shouldn't drink beer since it is vegan; just in case someone confuses you for a vegan... especially since you're watching MMA fighting since there are some good vegan fighters that participate in that sport.0 -
Can't really go vegan....or vegetarian....or paleo.....or anything that says no to a certain group
So, I call myself a Plexitarian....
I eat mostly raw organic produce, as little glutton as possible, only goat milk dairy/almond milk to drink and coconut milk homemade yogurt, meat I eat is non processed humanely grown on small farms, fish is wild caught,even my occasional dark chocolate treat is fair trade!
And my supplements come from Plexus, are healing my gut and ridding me of my Candida infection.
I drink 100oz water a day, exercise 6 days a week and walk at least 5 miles/10k steps every day.
Yes, I'm a hippie lol
......now to try to become a healthy less chubby hippie lol0 -
Jonesingmucho wrote: »So you want to go vegan for animal rights. That's interesting.
Just for a reminder, as an omnivore, you CAN get energy from consuming either plant based or animal based things. Humans can even incorporate algae, fungi, and bacteria as a food source with success.
Perhaps since you are struggling between your kind heart and your omnivore desires, the real question is not should I go vegan, but instead how do I have compassion and kind treatment for all living creatures, even the ones who will die so I can get my nutrients and energy?
I don't have an answer, but I promise I will keep looking in every basket of chicken wings and glass of beer I consume watching MMA until I can find an answer or forget the question in a drunken stupor.
Interesting view on vegans... Since you are opposed to vegan eating, you probably shouldn't drink beer since it is vegan; just in case someone confuses you for a vegan... especially since you're watching MMA fighting since there are some good vegan fighters that participate in that sport.
Awwwww I didn't mean to upset you.
Was it the chicken wing comment? If it was, my apologies. I was just hungry and went all carnivore. I'll go put "going carnivore" as one of the reasons why I'm a bad person to date in that other thread if it makes us all good again.
Just to set the record straight...I'm not opposed to vegan eating. I'm vegan ... at least half of the time.
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Jonesingmucho wrote: »Jonesingmucho wrote: »So you want to go vegan for animal rights. That's interesting.
Just for a reminder, as an omnivore, you CAN get energy from consuming either plant based or animal based things. Humans can even incorporate algae, fungi, and bacteria as a food source with success.
Perhaps since you are struggling between your kind heart and your omnivore desires, the real question is not should I go vegan, but instead how do I have compassion and kind treatment for all living creatures, even the ones who will die so I can get my nutrients and energy?
I don't have an answer, but I promise I will keep looking in every basket of chicken wings and glass of beer I consume watching MMA until I can find an answer or forget the question in a drunken stupor.
Interesting view on vegans... Since you are opposed to vegan eating, you probably shouldn't drink beer since it is vegan; just in case someone confuses you for a vegan... especially since you're watching MMA fighting since there are some good vegan fighters that participate in that sport.
Awwwww I didn't mean to upset you.
Was it the chicken wing comment? If it was, my apologies. I was just hungry and went all carnivore. I'll go put "going carnivore" as one of the reasons why I'm a bad person to date in that other thread if it makes us all good again.
Just to set the record straight...I'm not opposed to vegan eating. I'm vegan ... at least half of the time.
I'm not vegan, I just think that's a very ignorant, close-minded view of vegans.1 -
Jonesingmucho wrote: »Jonesingmucho wrote: »So you want to go vegan for animal rights. That's interesting.
Just for a reminder, as an omnivore, you CAN get energy from consuming either plant based or animal based things. Humans can even incorporate algae, fungi, and bacteria as a food source with success.
Perhaps since you are struggling between your kind heart and your omnivore desires, the real question is not should I go vegan, but instead how do I have compassion and kind treatment for all living creatures, even the ones who will die so I can get my nutrients and energy?
I don't have an answer, but I promise I will keep looking in every basket of chicken wings and glass of beer I consume watching MMA until I can find an answer or forget the question in a drunken stupor.
Interesting view on vegans... Since you are opposed to vegan eating, you probably shouldn't drink beer since it is vegan; just in case someone confuses you for a vegan... especially since you're watching MMA fighting since there are some good vegan fighters that participate in that sport.
Awwwww I didn't mean to upset you.
Was it the chicken wing comment? If it was, my apologies. I was just hungry and went all carnivore. I'll go put "going carnivore" as one of the reasons why I'm a bad person to date in that other thread if it makes us all good again.
Just to set the record straight...I'm not opposed to vegan eating. I'm vegan ... at least half of the time.
I'm not vegan, I just think that's a very ignorant, close-minded view of vegans.
Enlighten me. What is my ignorant, close-minded view of vegans?0 -
OP give it a go and see how you get on. If you like it, and find it healthy stick with it. If not, you may find you can incorporate 1 or 2 meals a week into your usual diet.
I don't think i could do it personally, I struggled with vegetarian for a few years but couldn't even sustain that.0
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