Emotionally fed up about loosing weight
lenacrigger
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I am 29, 5'5" and currently weight 322lbs. A week ago I was 319 and two weeks ago I was 315. This is partially going to be a poor me emotional vent but I am also looking for support, understanding and tips.
I live with my boyfriend of 12 years and our disabled nephew. At first the weight gain didn't bother me. I was 160 when we got together 12 years ago and I always looked skinnier than the numbers. Recently, my stomach "dropped" and hangs over my pants causing cysts occasionally and my weight has started getting in the way of things. I am happy as a plus size woman, just not this plus size.
My Dr has been harping on me like crazy to drop the weight but he also refuses to do anything to help. (Poor me part coming up)
I have been trying to cut my calories down to 1500 and then tried 1700 when the first one failed. I live in a town with no close friends to exercise with, hubby works 12 hour 2nd shifts and doesn't have time or the need to work out, we are barely able to pay bills, let alone a gym membership, and I have this phobia of doing things alone or in public so even going for a walk at 3am is a challenge for me. I tried the treadmill at home but my heart rate jumped over 220 so the dr told me to stop that.
Add to that the fact that we are TIGHTLY strapped financially and most of the healthy foods, no one in my house will eat. I am not suppose to have corn, peas, green beans or potatoes and those are the only ones my household will touch. (Broccoli is ok for them but only smothered in cheese). I try cutting calories/carbs myself, but then I feel like I am starving (headaches, mood swings, stomach pains).
I posted online once, looking for a walking partner, but that only made me feel worse about myself because she was fitter than I was and made me feel bad about walking slower or having cramps in my feet/legs/back.
I know others have been in the same situation (close or worse) and have been successful, so could I get some advice, tips or basically anything? The way I am going (and feeling) I might as well give up and end up being 600 lbs when I die.
I live with my boyfriend of 12 years and our disabled nephew. At first the weight gain didn't bother me. I was 160 when we got together 12 years ago and I always looked skinnier than the numbers. Recently, my stomach "dropped" and hangs over my pants causing cysts occasionally and my weight has started getting in the way of things. I am happy as a plus size woman, just not this plus size.
My Dr has been harping on me like crazy to drop the weight but he also refuses to do anything to help. (Poor me part coming up)
I have been trying to cut my calories down to 1500 and then tried 1700 when the first one failed. I live in a town with no close friends to exercise with, hubby works 12 hour 2nd shifts and doesn't have time or the need to work out, we are barely able to pay bills, let alone a gym membership, and I have this phobia of doing things alone or in public so even going for a walk at 3am is a challenge for me. I tried the treadmill at home but my heart rate jumped over 220 so the dr told me to stop that.
Add to that the fact that we are TIGHTLY strapped financially and most of the healthy foods, no one in my house will eat. I am not suppose to have corn, peas, green beans or potatoes and those are the only ones my household will touch. (Broccoli is ok for them but only smothered in cheese). I try cutting calories/carbs myself, but then I feel like I am starving (headaches, mood swings, stomach pains).
I posted online once, looking for a walking partner, but that only made me feel worse about myself because she was fitter than I was and made me feel bad about walking slower or having cramps in my feet/legs/back.
I know others have been in the same situation (close or worse) and have been successful, so could I get some advice, tips or basically anything? The way I am going (and feeling) I might as well give up and end up being 600 lbs when I die.
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Why can't you eat corn, peas, green beans, or potatoes?
Re cooking: It is make things easier if you can cook the same things for all three of you. Otherwise work it out so that you are cooking easy meals that have some overlap with each other.
Relatively inexpensive foods include
eggs, whole chickens, rice, canned and frozen fruits and vegetables, lentils, beans, peanuts, pasta, carrots, potatoes, sweet potatoes, cabbage, onions, garlic, ground turkey or beef, rolled oats, dairy, fresh fruit if it is on sale.
1700 calories might be too low. What did MyFitenessPal set for you to lose one and a half pounds a week?7 -
Okay... first, you've come to the right place for help and support. I don't see the pity party you're claiming to throw, so that's good!
What do you think your doctor could/should do for you? This all has to come from within you. You see the need, and that's where it starts.
Put your numbers into mfp. Start with no weight loss goal, but logging every last thing you eat and drink. After you're comfortable with that, start dropping the calories by setting a weekly loss goal. If -2 per week is too much change, try -1.5 or -1. Don't do "fad" diets or artificially restrictive ones. ANYTHING can work in a daily calorie allotment.
Who says what you are and aren't supposed to eat? I love green beans, and will happily eat them with salt, pepper, and a touch of garlic powder. A cup of beans is only 40 calories. That's not an unreasonable amount of calories for something filling and healthy.20 -
I am suppose to be low carb because I have Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome and insulin resistance. So the dr said no green beans, peas, corn or potatoes, cut out breads, pastas and some dairy, fruits I have to watch due to sugars which turn to carbs, and nuts I have to watch too.
Most of my meals are either chicken breasts (boneless, skinless, with all fat cut off, baked/grilled or pan fried for things like Alfredo/chicken pizza), ground beef (grilled burgers or stove top for tacos/meatloaf etc), potatoes are almost always a dinner side (mashed or roasted) with corn/green beans/salad.
My biggest concern are "snacks". I am home basically alone every day so I eat when bored too. I did buy grapes to snack on, but I also find sweets in the house or carb laden food. Burritos, pizza, TV dinner Alfredo, etc.
On a side note: my sister in law lives in the town that my old man works in, so I did call her and see if she is willing to have me over daily (when he doesn't work 12's, and go walking around town.
How do you all fight boredom eating when there really isn't much besides computer or TV to distract yourself?2 -
2lbs a week is 1,700
1.5lbs a week is 1,9903 -
If you are doing low carbs ideally you need to up your good fats, otherwise you might find yourself starving. Buy in bulk. Find out what time your local stores puts out the daily reduced items.7
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Cauliflower rice. Cheap and pasta alternative. I cook meals in my house for what i like and need if others dont like it they can starve or cokn themselves. So many times i see women put men n everyine first. I say do wat u need to n they will come with you. Or starve. Men go the easy route n will end up eating what u cook anyway.8
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Drink a gallon of water a day. Drink water constantly. It helps you stay full and you will be surprised at how much less food it takes to keep you full. Also if you drink coffee that helps too. Try this please, it can help. Don't worry about calories as much as carbs and fat. The less fat you take in the more fat storage your body will take from when you don't have new fats coming in.6
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I love your honesty. I am not out to hurt you. But I want you know I had to come to this realization myself. Stop talking about what you can't have or do! Start talking about the foods you like and can have. Start finding exercises you like and will stick to. If you like dance and walking but get bored easily. Do dance one day and a walk the next and then dance etc. stop limiting yourself. It is tough. I used hypothyroidism for 12 yrs for an excuse to keep my extra weight. Then one day I said enough. So what if I can't eat certain foods because my body and hypothyroidism don't tolerate them anymore. There are tons of foods I can have and tons of food I love.
I have social anxiety , but I refuse to let it stop me from going for a walk. Perhaps walk a neighbors dog or your own. I find walking with my husky helps. It will give you something to focus on other than what others are thinking. By the way, most people may see you walking or jogging, but they could careless. So what if you walk slow. So didn't I at first. You aren't out to impress anyone but you. So please stop worry about others and their opinion. Just worry about how awesome you feel when the workout is done. The end of the day comes and you didn't go over calories.
Go to Pinterest and get some low carb recipes. Drink plenty of water. You can do this. Trust me , if I can anyone can.19 -
lenacrigger wrote: »I am suppose to be low carb because I have Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome and insulin resistance. So the dr said no green beans, peas, corn or potatoes, cut out breads, pastas and some dairy, fruits I have to watch due to sugars which turn to carbs, and nuts I have to watch too.
Most of my meals are either chicken breasts (boneless, skinless, with all fat cut off, baked/grilled or pan fried for things like Alfredo/chicken pizza), ground beef (grilled burgers or stove top for tacos/meatloaf etc), potatoes are almost always a dinner side (mashed or roasted) with corn/green beans/salad.
My biggest concern are "snacks". I am home basically alone every day so I eat when bored too. I did buy grapes to snack on, but I also find sweets in the house or carb laden food. Burritos, pizza, TV dinner Alfredo, etc.
On a side note: my sister in law lives in the town that my old man works in, so I did call her and see if she is willing to have me over daily (when he doesn't work 12's, and go walking around town.
How do you all fight boredom eating when there really isn't much besides computer or TV to distract yourself?
I work or workout.4 -
I was pretty mad at myself too. I was also doing a lot of self-pity. I'll tell you, I started feeling much better when I stopped making excuses and took responsibility 100% for my situation and for my being over weight.
No one made me eat. That was all me.
No one forced me to be bored. Me.
No one made me stay in the house and watch TV. I did that.
I had many fits and starts. Some days I just said, "To heck with it, eat all the ice cream."
The bottom line is I only need 1600 calories a day if I want to be at a healthy weight. It took me a while (months!) to figure out how to eat by logging all my food and learning from my food diary. I made small changes where I could. It doesn't happen over night, but I did lose my weight and I've kept it off for nine years.
If I were you, I'd spend a lot of time reading the "Success Stories" on this site. If one person can do it, anyone can.11 -
Maybe you were walking too long or fast on your treadmill. Just go very slowly and for just 5 minutes in the beginning, then little by little, build up your endurance.
As far as eating-eat what you enjoy and what you're allowed but make sure you weigh every bite of all your calories!
The more days of success you accumulate, the more your confidence and determination will grow!
You can do!5 -
PCOS does improve with lower carb intake, but I think you just need to focus on weight loss for now. It won't matter what your carbs are because your hormone levels are probably high due to excess fat. Since MFP gave you a goal of 1700 -1900 calories why not just start at 1800? Just pick a number and you will lose if you remember to log everything and log correctly. Weigh your food in grams or oz. Don't use cups/spoons/guesstimates/eyeballing. Limit/Avoid processed foods. Higher protein foods should be a priority (chicken, fish/seafood, eggs, lean beef, lean pork, Greek yogurt, Cottage cheese, beans) - these are not expensive. Carbs should come in the form of fruits (berries are best), vegetables & Whole grains (brown rice, quinoa, barley). Healthy food is not expensive, but it does require you to prepare it.
As far as exercise - do what you can. Just start slowly and continue to increase as you can tolerate it. There are plenty of free online sources as well (fitnessblender.com). I don't belong to a gym because I know I won't go, but I can workout at home.
Many people have been in your shoes and have been successful. You have vented your excuses and now is the time to let it go and move on. Best of luck to you!5 -
lenacrigger wrote: »I am 29, 5'5" and currently weight 322lbs. A week ago I was 319 and two weeks ago I was 315. This is partially going to be a poor me emotional vent but I am also looking for support, understanding and tips.
I live with my boyfriend of 12 years and our disabled nephew. At first the weight gain didn't bother me. I was 160 when we got together 12 years ago and I always looked skinnier than the numbers. Recently, my stomach "dropped" and hangs over my pants causing cysts occasionally and my weight has started getting in the way of things. I am happy as a plus size woman, just not this plus size.
My Dr has been harping on me like crazy to drop the weight but he also refuses to do anything to help. (Poor me part coming up)
I have been trying to cut my calories down to 1500 and then tried 1700 when the first one failed. I live in a town with no close friends to exercise with, hubby works 12 hour 2nd shifts and doesn't have time or the need to work out, we are barely able to pay bills, let alone a gym membership, and I have this phobia of doing things alone or in public so even going for a walk at 3am is a challenge for me. I tried the treadmill at home but my heart rate jumped over 220 so the dr told me to stop that.
Add to that the fact that we are TIGHTLY strapped financially and most of the healthy foods, no one in my house will eat. I am not suppose to have corn, peas, green beans or potatoes and those are the only ones my household will touch. (Broccoli is ok for them but only smothered in cheese). I try cutting calories/carbs myself, but then I feel like I am starving (headaches, mood swings, stomach pains).
I posted online once, looking for a walking partner, but that only made me feel worse about myself because she was fitter than I was and made me feel bad about walking slower or having cramps in my feet/legs/back.
I know others have been in the same situation (close or worse) and have been successful, so could I get some advice, tips or basically anything? The way I am going (and feeling) I might as well give up and end up being 600 lbs when I die.
I feel for you, but -- and I hope some honesty is okay -- I see a lot of blaming other people and excuses.
You say your doctor refuses to help you. Sorry, but you have to do the work. The doctor can tell you to lose weight, but you are the one who needs to cut calories and move more. You can't exercise at home, can't find the right walking partner, etc.
You can find simple, free walking exercise videos on Youtube like Leslie Sansone. She has a lot of them. You can walk in your living room.
If the people in your house don't like healthy food, you have to make a decision to take your own life into your hands and cook healthy food for yourself. Cook enough that you can save some and eat it for several meals. Don't eat their food.
One healthy low cost meal idea: I eat a lot of lentils, which are inexpensive (they cost $1.00 a bag in the grocery store). I cook the whole bag and make about 3 meals, one for now, the rest for later. Cook the lentils until mushy so you don't get gas, then saute in a little olive oil, add any stir fried veggies (onions, tomatoes, whatever you have) and shake in a little spice. I use McCormick's Mexican spice or Garlic and Pepper -- no calories. Steam some kale or collard greens and you have a meal. You can even add brown rice. Very inexpensive, low calorie, and good for you. Lentils have 18 G protein per cup (the protein of 3 eggs).
The bottom line is you know you are overweight and unhealthy. The doctor, the best walking partner, your family and friends, are not going to solve your problems. YOU have to decide to take this journey into your own hands. That is actually the hardest thing of all to do. Once you make that decision and take your life into your own hands, the rest is all positive steps toward a better life.17 -
You've come to the right place for support - we ALL have weight issues to one degree or another, so don't feel as if you're alone.
1. From the sounds of it, you're putting yourself into starvation mode by exercising alot AND cutting way back on your calories at the same time. Bodies don't work that way. Calorie deficit is one thing, but you might be going too far. Oddly enough, eating smaller, but more meals during the day - counterintuitive as it sounds - works.
2. Water - works wonders - especially before a meal, when it provides a fuller feeling. Try it.
3. Diet is pretty simple (a) what you eat (b) how much you eat and (c) when you eat. I can get into all kinds of mind-numbing details, but those are the basics and they don't cost a dime.
4. Shop the perimeter of the store - stay out of the middle aisles where the pre-processed and salt-laden food resides. Basically, if it didn't have a mother or you didn't pick it -- don't eat it.
There are lots of people here willing to help out, PROVIDED you're committed to putting in the work. You CAN do this1 -
I think some brutal honesty is in order FOR YOUR FAMILY. If you do the shopping then you feed them what you can eat, this is your health and you are seriously overweight and they should care about that. We aren't just talking the last 10 pounds here and it's no one's responsibility that you can't find a workout partner that is your speed, if you are home alot during the day find small workouts on YouTube and do that instead of snacking. We are all human and we all made mistakes to get here but if we blame others we won't succeed and thats just a fact. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh ..it's not meant to be but changes can be made quite easily for these things they just might not be easy or fair. They just have to get done !6
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This will sound harsh, and I'm sorry for that, but here it is:
This is YOUR responsibility and I see nothing but a lot of excuses in your post.
Weight loss is simply eating less food than you need to maintain your weight. So I would start there if I were you. At your weight you could be eating just about 2100 calories a day and you'd lose about 1.1 pound a week. No need for exercise. You just curb the eating.
I get it. You feel hopeless. Because what you're doing is a losing cycle. You eat too much because you're depressed. And then you feel depressed because you're overweight. And you're overweight because you eat too much.
At some point in that cycle you need to put a halt to it. So curb the eating. You can eat whatever is in the house, just LESS OF IT. And log it all. Every day.
You know what feels really good is some success. I think if you saw some success you'd see how much power you really do have over yourself.6 -
Being real and honest with yourself is the most important thing right now, I think. Your health is the end game here and it seems like a long way away but time goes by so quickly....I would encourage you to get up, put on a coat and walk around your house....a few times. Move like that every day. A few times a day. Our ancestors did not have gym memberships, equipment, foofy damn food. They moved. Moved hard. Moved often. You can do this, you are not an anomaly, the weight will come off. Calories In. Calories Out to begin, coupled with moving and once the weight starts to move in a downward trend, you will be able to focus on the details of your nutrition. Simply, you can do this. You must do it. and as one poster said, your family needs to see the end game. Come here every day and read about everyone's journey, read about fitness, catch the energy that lives here. You can do it.4
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the good news is: you have a treadmill!!!! you can walk, super slowly, for super short time periods while you watch tv. do it for 1 minute. you can do anything for a minute! do it for a commercial break. maybe one break per show at first, and gradually increase the pace and duration. do it in your pj's even if you want. the point is, you've got a great tool at your disposal for the "move more" component.
for the "eat less" part of the equation, just start by logging your food. if the 2 pound loss per week was too aggressive drop it down to 1 or 1.5. if you can, invest in a food scale ($10-$15). if not, then there are other tools you can use to modify your portions. but log as accurately as you can.
also, regarding the PCOS, i have it too but i do very poorly on low carbs. headaches, mood swings, hunger, all of it. you can lose weight with PCOS without doing low carb, it's going to be slower probably. but all you really need to do is make sure you're in a caloric deficit and it will work for you.7 -
Have you tried jazzing up the walk? Find some exotic place to learn about and "walk" it. I did a few challenges that mimicked the trail the hobbits walked and it was a riot. Also for healthy foods I used to do carrot chips instead of corn chips and salsa..even toss in some greek yogurt. My go to snack is usually jerky or roasted edamame as they are high in protein. Never give up and never quit!4
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You honestly can eat what you want. As long as you stay within your calorie/macro goals you're golden. There lies the rub though (catch 22). If you eat broccoli smothered with cheese the calories are higher, hence you can eat less, hence you're hungry later. But, what's stopping you from pulling a portion out for yourself before you put cheese on it? My family hates cauliflower for the most part, again unless it's smothered in cheese. Same with broccoli. I simply pull out a 100g portion for myself and fix it differently for me and they get what they want and so do I. When it comes to meats (I grill a LOT) I can simply choose the leaner cuts for myself or simply trim mine different, then if I'm using a bun, I choose to buy myself multigrain or lower calorie buns and either A) don't tell them it's different, or buy them something different. Heck, that way mine last longer and I have to buy them less often. I guess my point is, if you find what they are eating to be too tempting, just remember you can eat 2x as much by not preparing it in a high calorie or unhealthy way. Over time you can nudge the rest of the family in the right direction but don't make it a priority. You are the priority.
Next, exercise. Most people hate it, until they embrace it. When I was over 300 lbs I could not run, I could not do a push up, I could not even do a sit up due to back injuries (some of that due to being overweight). So I walked. Slowly at first, faster later, and kept adding distance. Since I burned calories, it increased the calories I could eat daily, which made it easier to sustain myself while losing weight.
The point of losing weight and being more healthy should be adopting a new lifestyle that you can maintain long term, not just during your 'diet' phase. Don't look at it like you should eat 1200 calories a day and lose weight without effort, then once the diet is done you can go back to eating what you want. If you do that, you'll be back here unhappy in a year. Instead, adopt a new healthy lifestyle which includes regular exercise, and eating better. Get used to it because it's the way you'll want to live your life from now on. In the process, your body can and will lose weight along the way, and adjust to the new calorie intake and exercise regimen.
You can do it. Just put your mind to it. If your family won't eat what you prepare, tell them to learn to prepare it themselves lol.. if they get hungry enough they'll be less picky. I was lucky, my kids were raised when I began this journey, but even now at family bbq's I eat different things than they do. I pass on the macaroni salad and eat steamed, grilled, or baked veggies instead along with my lean meats. They can have their hotdogs and fatty hamburgers, I'll eat a lean hamburger or lean piece of meat along side them. They are happy, and I'm happy.7 -
Glad you're here lena. There is a lot of support on mfp. Logging everything I eat everyday really has helped me.
Part of that is I can adjust what I eat and kind of experiment to find out what gives me less of the feeling of deprivation within my calories for the day. If I go over one day, thats ok, maybe next day I can just eat more veg inplace of a higher calorie food and make up for it.
Its hardest the first week or two, for me it got easier after that, especially when I found out what I could eat and still enjoy those foods. Sometimes its just a matter of a few spices, or a tablespoon of vinegar added to veg. Best wishes!2 -
*hugs* @lenacrigger
I was once where you were. I was overwhelmed with all the information. I had at least 130lbs to drop.
I came here, started reading the stickies on the weight loss board. Then something clicked:
I didn't have to cut out the foods that I love. All that matters is calories.
From there, I did a little research, the science side of weight loss and it all made sense to me. All I needed was a place to log (mfp), a little understanding of the food database (not all entries are correct, so checking them with the food packaging is always a good idea) and a food scale (for a more accurate calorie count).
With low carb, it can be a little rough in the first week, but it gets better. Are you doing 100g and less or 50g and less a day? There are a few great low carber and PCOS groups right here on mfp!
And, feel free to add me as a friend. I'm more than happy to support you.
Ps....the 'starvation mode' mentioned a few posts above mine? Disregard it. It's not described the way it really is.5 -
Just wanted to say that I have dropped 30 lbs in 3 1/2 months doing very little exercise. I am not telling you to NOT exercise, but you cannot use it as an excuse for why you are gaining weight. Weight loss starts in the kitchen and many people above have given you great ideas on how you can start to focus on that.
As you start to lose weight and feel better, the exercise will become easier and more natural. Simple walking will help and as people have mentioned above, you don't have to walk outside! The Leslie Sansone YouTube videos area great idea - they are fun and you can do them right in your living room!2 -
Hey, that's what we're all for, support!
I understand your anxieties about doing things alone. If my partner is not with me, I don't go anywhere past twilight. I just can't do it. I don't even like being in my apartment alone, and having a dog has helped with that, but only very slightly.
I also understand your budget anxieties, both food and money-wise. But I believe you can make it work. Veggies are actually pretty cheap, if you know where to look for them, and I'd always recommend getting them frozen or canned. Buy dry beans and eat a lot of those, you'd be surprised how fast you're full. Really, you can lose 2lb a week on only rice and beans. The stress, hunger pains, headaches, etc, will reduce once your body is used to less food intake. It's going to be unpleasant for a bit, but I believe you can make it. When all else fails, measure out what everyone else is eating and go for it, just in a smaller portion. A food scale is going to be your biggest ally here, and they can be gotten for pretty cheap at Walmart!
Also, any chance you're in the Austin, TX area? My corgi and I would love a walking partner! No judgement here.2 -
There's a lot of great advice here from people have been where you are. The only thing I'll add is that overcoming the inertia of being sedentary takes several months. For months it will be a chore to get up and exercise but you just have to do it. Schedule it on your calendar to be accountable if you need to. Gradually, there will come a time when you realize that you are an active person and you get restless when you're not moving or doing something. The balance tips and you know at that point that being active has become a lifestyle change. You can do it, start slow but whatever you do... Just do a little more than you're doing now and keep doing it. As others said, I find it incredibly motivating to browse the success stories of people just like me who have changed their lives. You're here asking for help, that's step one! Keep going!4
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rcktgirl05 wrote: »There's a lot of great advice here from people have been where you are. The only thing I'll add is that overcoming the inertia of being sedentary takes several months. For months it will be a chore to get up and exercise but you just have to do it. Schedule it on your calendar to be accountable if you need to. Gradually, there will come a time when you realize that you are an active person and you get restless when you're not moving or doing something. The balance tips and you know at that point that being active has become a lifestyle change. You can do it, start slow but whatever you do... Just do a little more than you're doing now and keep doing it. As others said, I find it incredibly motivating to browse the success stories of people just like me who have changed their lives. You're here asking for help, that's step one! Keep going!
This is the best post yet. Take it one day at a time, OP. Make one good decision. Then make another. You can do this.2 -
As you start to lose weight and feel better, the exercise will become easier and more natural. Simple walking will help and as people have mentioned above, you don't have to walk outside! The Leslie Sansone YouTube videos area great idea - they are fun and you can do them right in your living room!
I have a machine I use in the winter, but I will be honest, I prefer walking over anything else. I've been known to pace from one end of my house to the other end until I get a mile or two in lol! Drives the wife crazy but when there's a foot of snow outside and I can't stand another minute on an elliptical it works for me. It got much easier for me as the pounds dropped off, I just kept at it for well over a year. Don't get discouraged!
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lenacrigger wrote: »How do you all fight boredom eating when there really isn't much besides computer or TV to distract yourself?
I know turning down food is difficult, but if you make a conscious decision as to whether or not you will eat something, you will win. Sometimes saying it out loud makes you realize that you don't really NEED to eat something. A glass of water is a great substitute for an unhealthy snack.
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It is much more difficult when the household does not want to eat new foods. I really hate it when I try to introduce healthier options and everyone sneers and complains. I think a serious talk with the family is in order if you haven't done so already. Speaking of the family, how are the kids? Healthy weight or no? Either way
perhaps a family walk could be possible? Just an idea.2 -
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