3 Questions :). PX90, CLA and Chromium
mnmlovenetflix
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Hi everyone ! I'm trying to lose weight I gained from my disaster diet.
My post about it : http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/37670171#Comment_37670171
I was just wondering if PX90 is worth the money. Also thoughts on CLA and Chromium .
I don't over eat or even eat junk food, but because I did years of that scam diet, I have about 30 ish lbs to lose.
Just want a natural supplement/ vitamin to help reach my goal (in no means I'm taking about a magical diet pill).
Thank you
My post about it : http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/37670171#Comment_37670171
I was just wondering if PX90 is worth the money. Also thoughts on CLA and Chromium .
I don't over eat or even eat junk food, but because I did years of that scam diet, I have about 30 ish lbs to lose.
Just want a natural supplement/ vitamin to help reach my goal (in no means I'm taking about a magical diet pill).
Thank you
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http://examine.com/supplements/conjugated-linoleic-acid/
http://examine.com/supplements/chromium/
I personally wouldn't pay for PX90 since all the information I need is readily available for free with a simple google search.3 -
I don't know enough about exercise to answer that part of your question.
But you don't need supplements unless your doctor has told you so.
If you still think you need random supplements, you are still in the scam-mindset that made you use HCG.
Real food in balanced amounts is enough.2 -
You really do need some help to get your head straight.
Get a book by Steve Arterburn "Lose It For Life". You have to get at what is driving you to view your body in such an unhealthy way and deal with that before you can effectively maintain a healthy weight.2 -
CLA and chromium are both not worth the money. In my opinion P90X is not worth it either. Just in a calorie deficit.1
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Thanks for your input every one ! However, I am completely lost on what to do. HCG is not only a starvation diet BUT it also messed with my hypothalamus gland. When I gained back the weight gradually from hcg, it put the weight back on in areas that I never gained on before.
So you could see my conundrum about it. I'm already doing a healthy lifestyle and exercise routine but I cannot get those lbs off
. I'm giving it my all but I'm starting to get depressed about it. I don't have the money to see a specialist or nutritionist. 0 -
mnmlovenetflix wrote: »Thanks for your input every one ! However, I am completely lost on what to do. HCG is not only a starvation diet BUT it also messed with my hypothalamus gland. When I gained back the weight gradually from hcg, it put the weight back on in areas that I never gained on before.
So you could see my conundrum about it. I'm already doing a healthy lifestyle and exercise routine but I cannot get those lbs off . I'm giving it my all but I'm starting to get depressed about it. I don't have the money to see a specialist or nutritionist.
Does the HCG diet involve actual injections of HCG? If so, you've probably ruined your hormones.0 -
If you're looking for some direction in establishing a workout program, P90X is good. You can do it in your home and don't need a ton of equipment...just some dumbbells and a pull-up bar. I dropped 64 lbs with P90X and tracking macros on MFP.
Like I said, if you need some help figuring out what to do for workouts, it's a great option to help you with that, since everything is laid out. You just do your best to follow the workouts. It takes a lot of the guesswork out of getting started2 -
I love P90X - did it twice and still use some of the workouts weekly...You don't need the other stuff, and P90X is only worth it if you will enjoy doing it.....I found it to be a nice mix of cardio and strength and got good results doing it and using MFP to track my food intake.....
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CLA and Chromium... no. I can't say enough about P90X. I don't do the program any more but it's a great "gateway" into fitness, making it a habit and finding its purpose. You'll feel better and perform better and it's structured progressively and holistically from nutrition to the workouts. A TON of research went into the program and it's built on solid sports research and performance. Well worth it- especially these days where it's so old it now includes a ton more workouts for less.
That said, it's not for everyone. If you're going to take to resistance and cardiovascular training, then yes. But it's a tough slog at first that MANY people start and never finish. Those who do, however... amazing results both inside and out.2 -
Alrighty , I'll give Px90 a go then. Thanks everyone !! 0
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trigden1991 wrote: »mnmlovenetflix wrote: »Thanks for your input every one ! However, I am completely lost on what to do. HCG is not only a starvation diet BUT it also messed with my hypothalamus gland. When I gained back the weight gradually from hcg, it put the weight back on in areas that I never gained on before.
So you could see my conundrum about it. I'm already doing a healthy lifestyle and exercise routine but I cannot get those lbs off . I'm giving it my all but I'm starting to get depressed about it. I don't have the money to see a specialist or nutritionist.
Does the HCG diet involve actual injections of HCG? If so, you've probably ruined your hormones.
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Yup I did that and drops with REAL hcg (not the amino acid ones).
If it's my hormones, I guess I will need a bit more patience to restore my body. Thanks for the input!0 -
I personally enjoyed P90X but that said others are right that it certainly isn't necessary. I found it motivating to have a difficult workout planned in advance for me.
That said I also worked up to it, did my own full body routinues combined with cardio for something like 4 months before I ever attempted P90X. At the time I started P90X I was in decent shape and probably had about 15 pounds to lose as 6' tall man. Honestly if you are jumping into that cold having not worked out before and being 5' tall and 40 pounds overweight its probably not the best program for that as you won't be able to really do the majority of the moves. I mean what are you going to do when it wants you to do like 60 pullups?
Honestly you are probably more likely to be able to commit to and will have more benefits from just going for a walk for 1-2 hours a day. Will burn a good amount of calories doing that. If you want to have resistance training in there just get some resistance bands and do any number of free online full body workouts three times a week.2 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »I personally enjoyed P90X but that said others are right that it certainly isn't necessary. I found it motivating to have a difficult workout planned in advance for me.
That said I also worked up to it, did my own full body routinues combined with cardio for something like 4 months before I ever attempted P90X. At the time I started P90X I was in decent shape and probably had about 15 pounds to lose as 6' tall man. Honestly if you are jumping into that cold having not worked out before and being 5' tall and 40 pounds overweight its probably not the best program for that as you won't be able to really do the majority of the moves. I mean what are you going to do when it wants you to do like 60 pullups?
Honestly you are probably more likely to be able to commit to and will have more benefits from just going for a walk for 1-2 hours a day. Will burn a good amount of calories doing that. If you want to have resistance training in there just get some resistance bands and do any number of free online full body workouts three times a week.
I disagree - P90X is very easy to modify - pull-ups? Replace with resistance bands - easy to modify.... Same for the rest of the program....2 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »I personally enjoyed P90X but that said others are right that it certainly isn't necessary. I found it motivating to have a difficult workout planned in advance for me.
That said I also worked up to it, did my own full body routinues combined with cardio for something like 4 months before I ever attempted P90X. At the time I started P90X I was in decent shape and probably had about 15 pounds to lose as 6' tall man. Honestly if you are jumping into that cold having not worked out before and being 5' tall and 40 pounds overweight its probably not the best program for that as you won't be able to really do the majority of the moves. I mean what are you going to do when it wants you to do like 60 pullups?
Honestly you are probably more likely to be able to commit to and will have more benefits from just going for a walk for 1-2 hours a day. Will burn a good amount of calories doing that. If you want to have resistance training in there just get some resistance bands and do any number of free online full body workouts three times a week.
I disagree - P90X is very easy to modify - pull-ups? Replace with resistance bands - easy to modify.... Same for the rest of the program....
but then why buy it? Why not just modify it to whatever you want to do for back/chest/shoulders/arms/legs and just do full body three times a week with resistance bands? P90X is designed more for people who already have a good level of general fitness to be honest. It has muscle groups broken into push-pull rather than full body which is where you probably want to start as a beginner. Jumping into an intensive push-pull routinue doing two muscle groups a day is overkill if you are a beginner and you'll probably have better luck and more success with a full body routine.
OP was just asking for peoples opinions. My opinion is that P90X is a pretty good program but I wouldn't start there, I'd start with a full body routinue 3x a week. If you get fit off of that and don't have much more weight to lose and want something more difficult but don't want to plan out your own routinue then sure, P90X is pretty good at that point...but until then I think its a bit of a waste of money. Why buy something you can't do and have to modify the hell out of?0 -
any program will work if you put in the effort and make sure you are in a deficit. that's all that's needed. unless you get a blood test and you are vitamin deficient then you take vitamins to help with the deficiency. other than that you dont need those other supplements.1
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »any program will work if you put in the effort and make sure you are in a deficit. thats all that needed. unless you get a blood test and you are vitamin deficient then you take vitamins to help with the deficiency. other than that you dont need those other supplements.
I'd agree with this. Certainly something like P90X isn't necessary, but if buying something and "committing" to it is what you need to motivate yourself to start on this road then it won't hurt. But its not necessary and its not what actually gives the weight loss, that has much more to do with you moderating your intake.1 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »any program will work if you put in the effort and make sure you are in a deficit. thats all that needed. unless you get a blood test and you are vitamin deficient then you take vitamins to help with the deficiency. other than that you dont need those other supplements.
I'd agree with this. Certainly something like P90X isn't necessary, but if buying something and "committing" to it is what you need to motivate yourself to start on this road then it won't hurt. But its not necessary and its not what actually gives the weight loss, that has much more to do with you moderating your intake.
agree for most people the deficit is all that is needed. exercise is good for the body in many other ways.1 -
I love P90X, and I think I got mine used on Amazon, so it wasn't as pricey as new. It is, however, an hour a day, while P90X3 is only 30 min. a day and just as fun. For both of them google search will pull up reviews that include lists of all the exercises, so if you don't need the visual you can still do the workouts without buying the programs. Plus, Darebee has free programs if you are just looking for a good packaged fitness program.1
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »I personally enjoyed P90X but that said others are right that it certainly isn't necessary. I found it motivating to have a difficult workout planned in advance for me.
That said I also worked up to it, did my own full body routinues combined with cardio for something like 4 months before I ever attempted P90X. At the time I started P90X I was in decent shape and probably had about 15 pounds to lose as 6' tall man. Honestly if you are jumping into that cold having not worked out before and being 5' tall and 40 pounds overweight its probably not the best program for that as you won't be able to really do the majority of the moves. I mean what are you going to do when it wants you to do like 60 pullups?
Honestly you are probably more likely to be able to commit to and will have more benefits from just going for a walk for 1-2 hours a day. Will burn a good amount of calories doing that. If you want to have resistance training in there just get some resistance bands and do any number of free online full body workouts three times a week.
I disagree - P90X is very easy to modify - pull-ups? Replace with resistance bands - easy to modify.... Same for the rest of the program....
When I attempted the yoga from P90X, I'd been practicing yoga for decades, and know all about modifications as I am a certified yoga teacher, and was not in the shape I needed to be to keep up or even want to do it. I might give it another shot after I lose 20 more pounds and am back in the shape I was in when I was a full time yoga teacher.0 -
P90X yoga is like an hour 45 minutes long. There are a lot of P90X workouts where you have to be in pretty good shape to perform them at any level really. And while we are on the topic *%&* twisting half-moon and frog.1
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »P90X yoga is like an hour 45 minutes long. There are a lot of P90X workouts where you have to be in pretty good shape to perform them at any level really. And while we are on the topic *%&* twisting half-moon and frog.
Yes, I don't recommend the P90X program to anyone who isn't already in decent shape, and do not recommend Yoga X for those new to vigorous styles of yoga. Too much risk of injury.
But I love twisty poses and Frog
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kshama2001 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »P90X yoga is like an hour 45 minutes long. There are a lot of P90X workouts where you have to be in pretty good shape to perform them at any level really. And while we are on the topic *%&* twisting half-moon and frog.
Yes, I don't recommend the P90X program to anyone who isn't already in decent shape, and do not recommend Yoga X for those new to vigorous styles of yoga. Too much risk of injury.
But I love twisty poses and Frog
My profile pictures include one of me doing Crow in 2014 around the time I was doing P90X including the yoga portion. I actually like the P90X yoga and will occassionally still do that one just for flexibility but it is a major time commit.0 -
P90X not necessarily for beginners is... true.
P90X was designed as an off-season sports performance enhancement program for athletes. That's not to say "The X" can't be used by beginners- it can and has been by many as people do what they can and improve week over week. Why buy it? As you mentioned earlier, because it lays out a legit periodization and progressive overload program combined with flexibility and cardivascular training without having to think about it... and allows you to work up to what you're seeing in the workouts for a workout program that can keep on giving for years.
I dunno- all paths lead to Rome and all that and your advice isn't off base by any means and probably the safest per injury prevention- I'm just playing Devil's Advocate as my experience with "The X" was absolutely beginner. When I came out the other end after 90 days however, I was in amazing shape- not just aesthetically but with real-world performance.
That said, the program "P90" is meant to proceed P90X and kicks things off at a beginner level. Truthfully, the progression is: P90, P90X, P90X 2.
And Yoga X was, for this guy... absolutely miserable. Ain't nobody got time for 100 minutes of any workout DVD. Pro Tip: you can go through the first 40-50 minutes of the opening flow (before the balance work) and reap its benefits.
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P90X not necessarily for beginners is... true.
P90X was designed as an off-season sports performance enhancement program for athletes. That's not to say "The X" can't be used by beginners- it can and has been by many as people do what they can and improve week over week. Why buy it? As you mentioned earlier, because it lays out a legit periodization and progressive overload program combined with flexibility and cardivascular training without having to think about it... and allows you to work up to what you're seeing in the workouts for a workout program that can keep on giving for years.
I dunno- all paths lead to Rome and all that and your advice isn't off base by any means and probably the safest per injury prevention- I'm just playing Devil's Advocate as my experience with "The X" was absolutely beginner. When I came out the other end after 90 days however, I was in amazing shape- not just aesthetically but with real-world performance.
That said, the program "P90" is meant to proceed P90X and kicks things off at a beginner level. Truthfully, the progression is: P90, P90X, P90X 2.
And Yoga X was, for this guy... absolutely miserable. Ain't nobody got time for 100 minutes of any workout DVD. Pro Tip: you can go through the first 40-50 minutes of the opening flow (before the balance work) and reap its benefits.
Yeah I did P90 into P90X and that worked pretty well for me. I think if I had tried to jump right into P90X I would have just been frustrated and beaten down by it. Even after getting ready for it basically I was still pretty beat down by that program.0 -
Thanks everyone for your inputs !! I probably have about 28 lbs to lose. I found my journal and a good lean weight was at 115. I'm 5'2" with a medium frame . I work out 3 days a week that consist of cycling and weight lifting. I was hoping to get to 100 lbs, maybe 105 lbs but now since I've found my health journal, the weight at 105 was done by a non healthy manner whatsoever. I came on here hoping I could find a way to lose the lbs that won't come off, like a "normal" person could probably lose. HCG really messed me up and just don't know what to do. But I won't give up 0
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when i started my fitness journey, i didn't even know what's considered basic, i just knew i wanted to get healthy, look good but was so embarrassed to go to the gym. i was so afraid to look like an idiot not knowing how to use those machines and equipment. so, i started with insanity, all crazy cardio but loved it, since it was just too easy to put the dvd on and follow through. Then i felt the need for weights and strength training and found out about P90X. it's an all inclusive program for someone trying to learn. i started lifting, was static by the changes i was seeing and the confidence i gained. It also introduced me to yoga. still not a big fan but another door of opportunities was opened right in front of my eyes. long story short, if you know your way around fitness world, you might not benefit much from P90X. but if you are a newbie still trying to learn you will love P90X. i have done rounds and rounds of it. combined it with other programs, moved on to do programs on bodybuilding and now back to P90X again.1
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mnmlovenetflix wrote: »Thanks everyone for your inputs !! I probably have about 28 lbs to lose. I found my journal and a good lean weight was at 115. I'm 5'2" with a medium frame . I work out 3 days a week that consist of cycling and weight lifting. I was hoping to get to 100 lbs, maybe 105 lbs but now since I've found my health journal, the weight at 105 was done by a non healthy manner whatsoever. I came on here hoping I could find a way to lose the lbs that won't come off, like a "normal" person could probably lose. HCG really messed me up and just don't know what to do. But I won't give up
I think you still can lose like a "normal" person
Just have realistic goals and expectations, be patient, accurate and consistent. The less you have to lose, the slower it gets. 100 pounds at your height is underweight. 105 pounds is very lean. 115 pounds will give you the same BMI as I have right now (and am happy with). 1 -
when i started my fitness journey, i didn't even know what's considered basic, i just knew i wanted to get healthy, look good but was so embarrassed to go to the gym. i was so afraid to look like an idiot not knowing how to use those machines and equipment. so, i started with insanity, all crazy cardio but loved it, since it was just too easy to put the dvd on and follow through. Then i felt the need for weights and strength training and found out about P90X. it's an all inclusive program for someone trying to learn. i started lifting, was static by the changes i was seeing and the confidence i gained. It also introduced me to yoga. still not a big fan but another door of opportunities was opened right in front of my eyes. long story short, if you know your way around fitness world, you might not benefit much from P90X. but if you are a newbie still trying to learn you will love P90X. i have done rounds and rounds of it. combined it with other programs, moved on to do programs on bodybuilding and now back to P90X again.
Thanks so much for your honest thoughts about it ! 0 -
kommodevaran wrote: »mnmlovenetflix wrote: »Thanks everyone for your inputs !! I probably have about 28 lbs to lose. I found my journal and a good lean weight was at 115. I'm 5'2" with a medium frame . I work out 3 days a week that consist of cycling and weight lifting. I was hoping to get to 100 lbs, maybe 105 lbs but now since I've found my health journal, the weight at 105 was done by a non healthy manner whatsoever. I came on here hoping I could find a way to lose the lbs that won't come off, like a "normal" person could probably lose. HCG really messed me up and just don't know what to do. But I won't give up
I think you still can lose like a "normal" person Just have realistic goals and expectations, be patient, accurate and consistent. The less you have to lose, the slower it gets. 100 pounds at your height is underweight. 105 pounds is very lean. 115 pounds will give you the same BMI as I have right now (and am happy with).
LoL, Thanks for your input ! It really actually gave me a bit of hope that my body will heal^_^ 0
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