Why up my protein?

Hi!
So one of the biggest eye openers I've had since I started logging everything on MFP was how little protein I ate in a regular day. Basically, 70% of my protein (which was only around 50g) came from cheese.

I'm not a vegetarian, but I hate fish and don't like 'real' meat (think 5 year old- spag bol, nuggets= good, steak= yucky, eggs= gross).

So I've been dutifully eating more chicken (still very 'meh' about it), and added a couple of protein bars a day.

My question is- how much should I really be worrying about this? I'm at around 70g protein/day now, and it's still a chore.

I believe a calorie deficit is a calorie deficit, no matter where it comes from, and I'm not a bodybuilder, so am I over obsessing about this? Is there a real health reason why I should be doing my best to up it?

Thanks!

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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    It doesn't matter if you are getting the majority of your protein from cheese if you're hitting your other macros and calories?
  • Bearbo27
    Bearbo27 Posts: 339 Member
    The protein is important to help keep you full. I usually eat a high protein breakfast and will usually not even be hungry for lunch. Little protein snacks through the day (string cheese, almonds, eggs) are perfect to keep me satisfied and not binge.
  • kimkimcoleman
    kimkimcoleman Posts: 105 Member
    Everyone is different. I really don't think there is a set amount of each nutrient that everyone needs every day. I'm a vegetarian and I am lucky if I eat 40-50 grams a day and I feel fine and have plenty of energy to run and do whatever else I want. Some days you'll eat more, some less. As long as you are meeting your calorie goal you are not going to be protein deficient. Don't overthink it.
  • kimkimcoleman
    kimkimcoleman Posts: 105 Member
    Everyone is different. I really don't think there is a set amount of each nutrient that everyone needs every day. I'm a vegetarian and I am lucky if I eat 40-50 grams a day and I feel fine and have plenty of energy to run and do whatever else I want. Some days you'll eat more, some less. As long as you are meeting your calorie goal you are not going to be protein deficient. Don't overthink it.
  • Spliner1969
    Spliner1969 Posts: 3,233 Member
    It depends on your goals. I generally eat about 1g of protein per pound or more of my body weight but I'm at maintenance. Someone who is 150 lbs overweight wouldn't really benefit from eating 350g of protein a day. Technically if you want to gain muscle you should be eating around 1g per pound of lean body mass. In order to calculate your lean body mass you need to know your body fat percentage.

    Anyway, females need a little less than men most of the time, so 70g might be ok for you. If you post your current weight, height, age, and your goals I'm sure a lot of people here will give you an opinion. I weigh about 182-185 on most days, and eat up to 190g of protein a day to keep from losing muscle and to hopefully gain a little bit but I am not in a deficit.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    There seems to be an echo in this thread :lol:
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    It depends a lot on how active you are. Someone more active is going to benefit from taking in more than the RDA...someone who is sedentary is likely to have little benefit from taking in more than the RDA.

    You also have to look at it in terms of what actual benefit you're getting...at some point the benefits to more protein are marginal and you reach a point where they are non-existent.

    A lot of generalizations get thrown around like 1 gram per Lb of body weight (way overkill) and 1 gram per Lb of LBM (more reasonable, but still overkill for the vast majority). These generalizations tend to trickle down from the fitness industry and in particular the body building industry.

    IMO, most people are active could benefit from more than the RDA but aren't going to benefit significantly from mass quantities of protein...they're just not at that level of training to where it's going to make a significant difference...and at some point it just becomes really expensive glucose.

    Here's an interesting article...

    http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/
  • MsRuffBuffNStuff
    MsRuffBuffNStuff Posts: 363 Member
    Generally, you want enough protein to maintain your muscles, so usually 1g per pound of lean mass. I have 106 pounds of lean mass so I aim for 106g of protein. The source does not matter. Protein shakes are generally the cheapest, gram for gram. Another reason I try to get most of my calories from protein sources is that its very difficult to overeat - as opposed to carbtastic foods which I can eat at an alarming rate..lol
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    There seems to be an echo in this thread :lol:

    In many threads!
  • evamartinm4461
    evamartinm4461 Posts: 13 Member
    Yep, lots of echo :)

    The cheese worked while I wasn't aiming for a calorie deficit, now... not such a good idea.

    I'm 29, female, 5'8, weight 157, bf% around 33%.

    Aiming for a 1lb week weight loss at around 1500 kcal.

    Thank you so much for all your insight!
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    I'm kind of similar to you in preferences (not a big fan of meat) except even nuggets are on my meh list. I like fish, but I get really bored of it really fast. The general rule I go for is: as much protein as you can handle and still keep a sustainable diet. There is no point in stressing about getting "optimum" amounts of protein if you can't keep it up.

    When I first started, I discovered that I was getting 20-50 grams a day 99% of which came from dairy and vegetables. Now I make effort to get at least 70 grams ultimately aiming for 100 when possible. If I can't make it to 100 on some days I don't stress about it unless I'm lower than 70, in which case I would drink a protein shake or something.
  • courtneyfabulous
    courtneyfabulous Posts: 1,863 Member
    You do want to get enough protein in general, and especially for weight loss- there's hormones that make your body prioritize burning fat that are reliant on consuming enough protein, and when in a calorie deficit your body can tend to break down muscle for energy instead of body fat if you aren't getting enough dietary protein.

    It's not just for body builders and not just about feeling "full". The last thing you want to do is lose muscle and not lose fat, that's very unhealthy and will make it almost impossible to maintain any weight loss you do achieve.

    Look online for daily protein intake recommendations based on your age, gender, height, weight, and activity level.
    The amount of grams needed a day is different for everyone.

    I know how you feel about eating meat- I don't like it much either, I can only eat a maximum of 3oz at a time and more like 1.5 most of the time. I've found protein powder/shakes to be very helpful. And you might want to try Greek yogurt and cottage cheese as an alternative to cheese, you get more protein for less calories & fat so it's easier to fit into your daily calorie allowance.
  • BoxerBrawler
    BoxerBrawler Posts: 2,032 Member
    The Dietary Reference Intake recommendation is 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight, or 0.36 grams per pound. Anything more is being used as fuel. If it's not being used as fuel you're either storing it or urinating it out of your body. In my opinion the quality of the protein counts. If you're doing a plant based nutrition plan obviously you want to focus on beans/legumes/dark greens and such. Egg whites are a great source. If you're not crazy about meat but will eat some I'd recommend lean turkey and chicken. As the poster above mentioned, a good plant based protein powder would be beneficial.
  • ogtmama
    ogtmama Posts: 1,403 Member
    To protect your lean muscle mass (and therefore your "metabolism") and to feel full and stay that way.
  • RoxieDawn
    RoxieDawn Posts: 15,488 Member
    edited October 2016
    I understand it as a completely sedentary individual does not need an explosive amount of protein which is the .8 kgr per body weight in pounds (as @crushman5279 described) ..

    When dieting its always a good idea to get ample protein. And if your calorie deficit is fairly aggressive, then getting ample protein even in lieu of strength training and cardio, can assist in muscle sparing. Although the two provide with the necessary muscle insurance. If you do exercise and/or strength train definitely need more protein intake (1/gr per lean mass or .08/gr per body weight).. Some people can achieve satiety with protein alone, I personally need a balance of fat and protein together.

    I do supplement with whey protein when I need it. Keep in mind protein shakes do not provide me any fullness or satiety. I try my best to get it through foods, although sometimes (like on the weekends) my protein intake is lower without needed help. I do eat meat (beef/chicken/pork), but I also get protein through yogurt, eggs (white and whites only), cheese (swiss/american/cheddar, etc), beans/legumes, edamame, quinoa, veggies, potatoes, sweet potatoes, milk (whole or 2%), fish, cottage cheese, peanut butter, nuts (all diff kinds), etc...

  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited October 2016
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    It depends a lot on how active you are. Someone more active is going to benefit from taking in more than the RDA...someone who is sedentary is likely to have little benefit from taking in more than the RDA.

    This is true, but I'd add that it's also beneficial when one is at a deficit (being more important when you are close to goal or at a higher deficit). Increasing protein up to about .65-.85 g per lb of body weight (if already at a healthy weight) or goal weight (if you are overweight) can be helpful in preserving muscle mass and avoiding more loss of muscle than necessary. Obviously other things, like strength training or other, analogous, types of exercise can be helpful too, and increasing protein may not matter if one is especially sedentary, for example.

    I also think it's more important as one ages, as it gets harder to maintain muscle (or add any) and muscle loss is natural. As a result, I have focused on getting around .8 g/lb of current or goal weight, depending (about 95-100 g, and that's consistent with the 1 g/lb of LBM for me too). I am active, but if I weren't I'd probably let it drop a bit lower when not trying to lose/recomp IF it were difficult for me to manage. (I played around with a plant based diet for a while and let the protein drop lower, since there was no way for me to keep it at that level regularly without really changing my eating habit. I don't think this would have been a bad thing.)

    OP, ultimately, you have to just decide whether the possible benefits of a little more protein would outweigh how you'd have to change up your diet and whether it would be sustainable for you. Goals may be part of that. You can certainly lose weight and end up with a fine BF% with a little less protein, however. Many people don't bother counting and just focus on eating a balanced, healthful diet.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    Yep, lots of echo :)

    The cheese worked while I wasn't aiming for a calorie deficit, now... not such a good idea.

    I'm 29, female, 5'8, weight 157, bf% around 33%.

    Aiming for a 1lb week weight loss at around 1500 kcal.

    Thank you so much for all your insight!

    What do you do in regards to exercise?
  • lancelyell
    lancelyell Posts: 60 Member
    A key to my transformation was shooting for .75g of protein per lb of body weight, 20-30% fats and carbs filled in the rest. That and determining the proper caloric deficit. Shooting for .5-2lbs lost per week will slow metabolic adaptation and ensure longer more sustainable results but definitely get that protein in. It helps with muscle repair and keeps you full longer which is important on a deficit.