soya or almond milk?

TheSma11Print · October 2016

I like to make my protein shake with pulsin whey protein powder http://www.pulsin.co.uk/whey-protein-isolate-1kg-193.html, lots of spinach and a touch of coco powder. I usually use almond milk as water is bland. Is there much difference between using soya or almond milk or even rice?

janejellyroll · October 2016

Soy milk has more protein than almond milk, almond milk is often lower calorie (especially if you get an unsweetened version). I use both -- my choice will depend on whether or not I want to boost my protein or lower the calories in a specific smoothie/recipe.

Lizarking · October 2016

It's soy protein though, so take that protein number with a grain of salt. I'd go with the almond milk

rockymytdeb · October 2016

Vary it. Use all the different non dairy milks.

RodaRose · October 2016

Soy milk. Almond is mostly water.
Or drink water.

slacker80 · October 2016

I love soy milk as it brings out the best flavor in all my shakes but I recently stopped because I've heard it lowers testosterone. Which isn't so great on the male end. So I just occasionally buy almond now.

lynn_glenmont · October 2016

slacker80 wrote: »

I love soy milk as it brings out the best flavor in all my shakes but I recently stopped because I've heard it lowers testosterone. Which isn't so great on the male end. So I just occasionally buy almond now.

Yeah, it's hard to believe there are 1.4 billion people in China, what with all the tofu and other soy products being consumed there. You'd think they'd have died out long ago with all the men suffering from lowered fertility...

Clinical studies show no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on reproductive hormones in men: results of a meta-analysis
http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/abstract

jnlamppert · October 2016

I chose almond milk mostly because I noticed, as a female, that too much soy in my diet would create some odd hormonal balances in my cycle. Choose whatever works best for you! There's no right or wrong option.

rebel_26 · October 2016

lynn_glenmont wrote: »

slacker80 wrote: »

I love soy milk as it brings out the best flavor in all my shakes but I recently stopped because I've heard it lowers testosterone. Which isn't so great on the male end. So I just occasionally buy almond now.

Yeah, it's hard to believe there are 1.4 billion people in China, what with all the tofu and other soy products being consumed there. You'd think they'd have died out long ago with all the men suffering from lowered fertility...

Clinical studies show no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on reproductive hormones in men: results of a meta-analysis
http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/abstract

people of china have other health issues due to the diet so arguments can be made either way in regard to soy yes or no.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa050467

Also check the references in your link to see where they glean this information from and look at what the studies were for ..what you posted is a summary conclusion based on multiple studies but I encourage you to look at what those studies were for. I'm not saying it DOES reduce test , but what I am saying is the conclusion isn't as cut and dry as you portrayed it to be.

if your lacto intolerant or simply disagree with drinking milk for animal rights or just dont like the taste I get it and anything to moderation should be just fine. I steer clear of soy because I have an under active thyroid so its in my best interest not to introduce elements that are shown to have a negative affect on my thyroid.

I think almond milk is a crime...basically no protein so I cannot understand for the life of me why people love it so much...to each their own.

CooCooPuff · October 2016

Cashew milk is the tastiest to me. I like it better than cows milk for cereal

janejellyroll · October 2016

rebel_26 wrote: »

lynn_glenmont wrote: »

slacker80 wrote: »

I love soy milk as it brings out the best flavor in all my shakes but I recently stopped because I've heard it lowers testosterone. Which isn't so great on the male end. So I just occasionally buy almond now.

Yeah, it's hard to believe there are 1.4 billion people in China, what with all the tofu and other soy products being consumed there. You'd think they'd have died out long ago with all the men suffering from lowered fertility...

Clinical studies show no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on reproductive hormones in men: results of a meta-analysis
http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/abstract

people of china have other health issues due to the diet so arguments can be made either way in regard to soy yes or no.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa050467

Also check the references in your link to see where they glean this information from and look at what the studies were for ..what you posted is a summary conclusion based on multiple studies but I encourage you to look at what those studies were for. I'm not saying it DOES reduce test , but what I am saying is the conclusion isn't as cut and dry as you portrayed it to be.

if your lacto intolerant or simply disagree with drinking milk for animal rights or just dont like the taste I get it and anything to moderation should be just fine. I steer clear of soy because I have an under active thyroid so its in my best interest not to introduce elements that are shown to have a negative affect on my thyroid.

I think almond milk is a crime...basically no protein so I cannot understand for the life of me why people love it so much...to each their own.

I consume almond milk because I enjoy the taste and the version I get has a calorie count and nutrients that fit well into my diet. I get plenty of protein from other things that I eat so I don't necessarily require milk to meet that need.

Smccabe8 · October 2016

I like almond or cashew milk. Cashew milk is creamier than almond milk IMO. Soy milk can act like estrogen in the body, and the links between too much estrogen and breast cancer concern me.

rebel_26 · October 2016

janejellyroll wrote: »

rebel_26 wrote: »

lynn_glenmont wrote: »

slacker80 wrote: »

I love soy milk as it brings out the best flavor in all my shakes but I recently stopped because I've heard it lowers testosterone. Which isn't so great on the male end. So I just occasionally buy almond now.

Yeah, it's hard to believe there are 1.4 billion people in China, what with all the tofu and other soy products being consumed there. You'd think they'd have died out long ago with all the men suffering from lowered fertility...

Clinical studies show no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on reproductive hormones in men: results of a meta-analysis
http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/abstract

people of china have other health issues due to the diet so arguments can be made either way in regard to soy yes or no.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa050467

Also check the references in your link to see where they glean this information from and look at what the studies were for ..what you posted is a summary conclusion based on multiple studies but I encourage you to look at what those studies were for. I'm not saying it DOES reduce test , but what I am saying is the conclusion isn't as cut and dry as you portrayed it to be.

if your lacto intolerant or simply disagree with drinking milk for animal rights or just dont like the taste I get it and anything to moderation should be just fine. I steer clear of soy because I have an under active thyroid so its in my best interest not to introduce elements that are shown to have a negative affect on my thyroid.

I think almond milk is a crime...basically no protein so I cannot understand for the life of me why people love it so much...to each their own.

I consume almond milk because I enjoy the taste and the version I get has a calorie count and nutrients that fit well into my diet. I get plenty of protein from other things that I eat so I don't necessarily require milk to meet that need.

I get that too. I agree you can get your daily protein easily without milk or soy milk being a necessary element.

Chadxx · October 2016

I use cashew milk. It tastes good and is only 25 calories per serving, win win.

lynn_glenmont · October 2016

rebel_26 wrote: »

lynn_glenmont wrote: »

slacker80 wrote: »

I love soy milk as it brings out the best flavor in all my shakes but I recently stopped because I've heard it lowers testosterone. Which isn't so great on the male end. So I just occasionally buy almond now.

Yeah, it's hard to believe there are 1.4 billion people in China, what with all the tofu and other soy products being consumed there. You'd think they'd have died out long ago with all the men suffering from lowered fertility...

Clinical studies show no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on reproductive hormones in men: results of a meta-analysis
http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/abstract

people of china have other health issues due to the diet so arguments can be made either way in regard to soy yes or no.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa050467

Also check the references in your link to see where they glean this information from and look at what the studies were for ..what you posted is a summary conclusion based on multiple studies but I encourage you to look at what those studies were for. I'm not saying it DOES reduce test , but what I am saying is the conclusion isn't as cut and dry as you portrayed it to be.

if your lacto intolerant or simply disagree with drinking milk for animal rights or just dont like the taste I get it and anything to moderation should be just fine. I steer clear of soy because I have an under active thyroid so its in my best interest not to introduce elements that are shown to have a negative affect on my thyroid.

I think almond milk is a crime...basically no protein so I cannot understand for the life of me why people love it so much...to each their own.

so, basically, you're supporting

slacker80 wrote: »

I love soy milk as it brings out the best flavor in all my shakes but I recently stopped because I've heard it lowers testosterone. Which isn't so great on the male end. So I just occasionally buy almond now.

I think I'll take a journal-published metanalysis over "I heard" (which usually ends up meaning "I heard it on the Internet" or "I heard it from a bro at the gym").

I tend to agree about almond milk -- even at those low calories, it's basically almond-flavored sugar water, although I do enjoy the taste of the almond-coconut blends. I mostly drink dairy, and I think the nutrition that I get in terms of protein, calcium, and vitamins A and D (and fat if I drink a version with fat) is well worth the calories. But soy protein is good for my cholesterol and blood pressure, so occasionally I opt for soy milk.

I think adding almond milk to a protein shake is pretty bizarre. Dairy, or soy, or a protein-fortified vegan milk makes more sense. Why would someone "pay" 25 to 40 calories for 0 grams of protein, instead of 80 calories for 8 grams of protein, if they're having so much trouble getting their desired amount of protein that they need to use supplements? Bizarre.

Fayecg89 · October 2016

Firstly all those men eating or drinking soya products STOP! http://www.thehealthyboy.com/2010/05/why-you-should-never-eat-soy.html This stuff is no good for your health, small amounts like everything isn't going to do you massive harm but continued regular use will. Please read up on it

janejellyroll · October 2016

Fayecg89 wrote: »

Firstly all those men eating or drinking soya products STOP! http://www.thehealthyboy.com/2010/05/why-you-should-never-eat-soy.html This stuff is no good for your health, small amounts like everything isn't going to do you massive harm but continued regular use will. Please read up on it

That blog entry doesn't cite a single source and the errors in it don't inspire much confidence.

rebel_26 · October 2016

lynn_glenmont wrote: »

rebel_26 wrote: »

lynn_glenmont wrote: »

slacker80 wrote: »

I love soy milk as it brings out the best flavor in all my shakes but I recently stopped because I've heard it lowers testosterone. Which isn't so great on the male end. So I just occasionally buy almond now.

Yeah, it's hard to believe there are 1.4 billion people in China, what with all the tofu and other soy products being consumed there. You'd think they'd have died out long ago with all the men suffering from lowered fertility...

Clinical studies show no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on reproductive hormones in men: results of a meta-analysis
http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/abstract

people of china have other health issues due to the diet so arguments can be made either way in regard to soy yes or no.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa050467

Also check the references in your link to see where they glean this information from and look at what the studies were for ..what you posted is a summary conclusion based on multiple studies but I encourage you to look at what those studies were for. I'm not saying it DOES reduce test , but what I am saying is the conclusion isn't as cut and dry as you portrayed it to be.

if your lacto intolerant or simply disagree with drinking milk for animal rights or just dont like the taste I get it and anything to moderation should be just fine. I steer clear of soy because I have an under active thyroid so its in my best interest not to introduce elements that are shown to have a negative affect on my thyroid.

I think almond milk is a crime...basically no protein so I cannot understand for the life of me why people love it so much...to each their own.

so, basically, you're supporting

slacker80 wrote: »

I love soy milk as it brings out the best flavor in all my shakes but I recently stopped because I've heard it lowers testosterone. Which isn't so great on the male end. So I just occasionally buy almond now.

I think I'll take a journal-published metanalysis over "I heard" (which usually ends up meaning "I heard it on the Internet" or "I heard it from a bro at the gym").

I tend to agree about almond milk -- even at those low calories, it's basically almond-flavored sugar water, although I do enjoy the taste of the almond-coconut blends. I mostly drink dairy, and I think the nutrition that I get in terms of protein, calcium, and vitamins A and D (and fat if I drink a version with fat) is well worth the calories. But soy protein is good for my cholesterol and blood pressure, so occasionally I opt for soy milk.

I think adding almond milk to a protein shake is pretty bizarre. Dairy, or soy, or a protein-fortified vegan milk makes more sense. Why would someone "pay" 25 to 40 calories for 0 grams of protein, instead of 80 calories for 8 grams of protein, if they're having so much trouble getting their desired amount of protein that they need to use supplements? Bizarre.

if thats your take away lol.

leanjogreen18 · October 2016

I do soy, almond, rice and hemp milk. I like to change some things up.

vingogly · October 2016

For taste, I like coconut milk the best. Regarding soy and feminization of men, a 2010 National Institute of Health study says:

"The intervention data indicate that isoflavones do not exert feminizing effects on men at intake levels equal to and even considerably higher than are typical for Asian males."

Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20378106

I use soy milk in my morning cereal because I have prostate cancer, and "...soy may modulate the disease process for established cancers".

Source: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/753132

I prefer getting my information from university and medical research sources rather than sites run by crunchies.

cwolfman13 · October 2016

amychambers22 wrote: »

I like to make my protein shake with pulsin whey protein powder http://www.pulsin.co.uk/whey-protein-isolate-1kg-193.html, lots of spinach and a touch of coco powder. I usually use almond milk as water is bland. Is there much difference between using soya or almond milk or even rice?

Why not compare the nutritional labels and go from there...

soya or almond milk?

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