Cheat Meals/Days - Necessity or Disaster?
LukeAdrianBoardman
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So here I am - Week one of my diet complete!
I've come to the end of my first week (7 days) of dieting while regularly exercising and have had quite a successful week - i've lost 3lbs Yippeee!
I'm not sure whether i'm the only person who does this, but previously to now, dieting for a week meant eating well for 5 days, cheat meal on Friday evening which triggered a weekend of cheat meals, back on the horse on Monday morning; sure i'd lose weight, maybe 1lbs, but it always left me wondering, how much weight would I have lost if I hadn't eaten that fourth krispy kreme?
This time its different for me (I hope) I've completely avoided having a cheat day this week as this triggers me into a landslide of all things delicious and unhealthy and I simply cant resist.
I think for at least the first few weeks i'll have to stay away while I get my diet under control, then slowly introduce those delicious foods that landed me here in the first place - I enjoy food and want a healthy relationship with it.
I think that having a cheat meal once a week is good way to approach dieting, its all about moderation right? but at the moment the lines are blurred between moderation and over indulgence.
What works for you? do you have a cheat meal/day every week? every two weeks.
PS: i'm aiming for a healthy 2lb loss per week. 20lbs before Christmas, wish me look
I've come to the end of my first week (7 days) of dieting while regularly exercising and have had quite a successful week - i've lost 3lbs Yippeee!
I'm not sure whether i'm the only person who does this, but previously to now, dieting for a week meant eating well for 5 days, cheat meal on Friday evening which triggered a weekend of cheat meals, back on the horse on Monday morning; sure i'd lose weight, maybe 1lbs, but it always left me wondering, how much weight would I have lost if I hadn't eaten that fourth krispy kreme?
This time its different for me (I hope) I've completely avoided having a cheat day this week as this triggers me into a landslide of all things delicious and unhealthy and I simply cant resist.
I think for at least the first few weeks i'll have to stay away while I get my diet under control, then slowly introduce those delicious foods that landed me here in the first place - I enjoy food and want a healthy relationship with it.
I think that having a cheat meal once a week is good way to approach dieting, its all about moderation right? but at the moment the lines are blurred between moderation and over indulgence.
What works for you? do you have a cheat meal/day every week? every two weeks.
PS: i'm aiming for a healthy 2lb loss per week. 20lbs before Christmas, wish me look
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The easiest thing to do this is drop all this cheat nonsense and look at everything as numbers in an energy balance.
You want to fall on the negative side of the energy balance. Do this however you see fit.
Food is just numbers.18 -
I work treats into my calories every day. I don't set aside a special day or meal to eat what I want - I do that every day.
I can't eat as much as I want of everything that I want every day but I've found a satisfying balance through portion control.12 -
I've never had a cheat meal/day. As you said, it's about moderation. To me, this means working the foods I enjoy into my goals as I can.8
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The whole notion of "cheating" suggests you aren't making a sustainable lifestyle change; you are white knuckling it. And maybe you can white knuckle forever, but I can't. My options were 1. lifestyle change I can be happy with or 2. get happy with my post-baby weight.
I think you have to decide which you want: get to your preferred weight or eat four donuts. You can't have both.12 -
It's a mental game and semantics. Never CHEAT. As part of my overall WL plan, I allow for several untracked meals a month. 3 to 4. Social meals only. One me only, never an entire day. The rest of the time I am always at deficit.
I don't call these "cheat meals". These are an important part of my plan. I wanted to be able to enjoy social meals and holidays while staying on track.
This works well for me. You might be different.10 -
A necessity? No. Overeating/cheating once a week would just make me want to overeat the other 6 days, too, which is how I got fat in the first place. I chose my new lifestyle for a reason...I didn't want to be that person anymore. Maybe I sort of equate it to meeting back up frequently with an ex..like, how good is it for me, mentally, with moving on and taking control? Having a treat each day works better for me.5
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You can't cheat on food. It's just food. Work treats into your daily calories.4
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ok so the general consensus is no.. I had meant to keep the post upbeat and positive.
I think having a treat every once in a while is what makes us human, and allows us to lead a healthy, balanced life.
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LukeAdrianBoardman wrote: »ok so the general consensus is no.. I had meant to keep the post upbeat and positive.
I think having a treat every once in a while is what makes us human, and allows us to lead a healthy, balanced life.
moderation is key.
No, the general consensus is you can't cheat on a diet. It's disordered thinking. It's just food, you eat it and log it and move on.8 -
Yay to week one in the books! Here's to many more successful weeks.
For me, I find it more effective to plan around special meals or things I really want. For example, if I know I want to go out, I figure out the calories (as best I can, sometimes tricky with restaurants) and plan to eat a bit lighter that day so I can fit my meal into my goals. The concept of cheating makes me feel guilty so I try to avoid that feeling by just planning ahead. I agree that I feel more balanced if I know I can go out and eat with friends, or have a few drinks.
And I appreciate the positive tone -- it can be a rare thing! I know people get tired of answering the same questions but nobody is obligated to post in threads they don't want to. I appreciate the posters who make this a welcoming place.7 -
Cheating is a cop out. If you want to make a change, make a change. Don't screw around and say, "I'm going to commit, except for this time and this time." THAT isn't going to fix your relationship with food. Find a way to budget in that piece of cake if you feel like you need to have it and hold yourself accountable when you mess up. Don't just be all, "Whoops! I cheated and it's fine. These calories don't count."
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Here's my take on it. If you're training, and focusing on the macros, calories, and trying to adhere to a strict daily meal plan with things like prep meals. Then yes go out and have a nice meal somewhere once a week, or every 2 weeks. BUT first last at least 30 days without any cheat meals. I believe you need to learn self control, or you'll keep making excuses for why you deserve a meal out, or a snack, and next thing you know you've gained it all back.2
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I have maintenance days every now and then. I can't fit certain foods in the amounts i want into my deficit.1
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I've had a day here and there when I told myself I didn't care and just went hog wild, but I always end up logging it to the best of my ability because that's what I need to do. And when I see the damage I did to my progress it's almost never worth it (I stress "almost." I had a 500+ calorie chocolate martini that was almost worth being fat again). I don't generally plan for cheat meals, much less cheat days, but I do allow myself some leeway for special occasions and I try to work small treats in every day. Today I had a chocolate craving, so I had some Halo Top ice cream and then a fat-free hot cocoa. Total calories: 80. I try to have a diet that never leaves me wanting to go "Eff it!" and give up. That's what makes it sustainable. 1380 days logged as of this morning.7
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Sort of but I don't call it a cheat day. I eat pretty structured Monday-Saturday so I give myself a break on Sundays. I don't go crazy eating but I let myself relax on logging a bit and eat a bit more spontaneously than the other 6 days of the week. If I have a mid-week craving, I fit it into my meal structure during the week if I can but sometimes I fit it in on Sundays. It works for me. Almost down 20 lbs in 90 days of logging.1
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If you see it as cheat meals/days, you're not ready and it'll be a disaster.
On the other hands, 2-3 days a week I eat freely and it's not an issue. Couple things you should know: they are all accounted and I no longer have the disordered eating behavior found with obese people.
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I eat food I like every day and fit it in my calorie goal so there is really nothing to cheat from. Sometimes I eat at maintenance calorie level. I log food every day. I've had the best success doing it this way. It isn't a diet or lifestyle change just eating appropriate portion sizes so it is very sustainable long term.
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LukeAdrianBoardman wrote: »So here I am - Week one of my diet complete!
I've come to the end of my first week (7 days) of dieting while regularly exercising and have had quite a successful week - i've lost 3lbs Yippeee!
I'm not sure whether i'm the only person who does this, but previously to now, dieting for a week meant eating well for 5 days, cheat meal on Friday evening which triggered a weekend of cheat meals, back on the horse on Monday morning; sure i'd lose weight, maybe 1lbs, but it always left me wondering, how much weight would I have lost if I hadn't eaten that fourth krispy kreme?
This time its different for me (I hope) I've completely avoided having a cheat day this week as this triggers me into a landslide of all things delicious and unhealthy and I simply cant resist.
I think for at least the first few weeks i'll have to stay away while I get my diet under control, then slowly introduce those delicious foods that landed me here in the first place - I enjoy food and want a healthy relationship with it.
I think that having a cheat meal once a week is good way to approach dieting, its all about moderation right? but at the moment the lines are blurred between moderation and over indulgence.
What works for you? do you have a cheat meal/day every week? every two weeks.
PS: i'm aiming for a healthy 2lb loss per week. 20lbs before Christmas, wish me look
First of all, let's not refer to this journey as "dieting". It needs to be lifestyle change - just change the way you live the rest of your life.
Secondly, cheating is never right in any area of life, so it can't be a good idea to plan to cheat.
The principle behind MFP is calorie deficit, based on Calories In, and Calories Out. If you can moderate the amount of Calories In without depriving yourself of all the things you like, then you're on the right track. Also if you exceed the amount of calories MFP recommends for you based on the info you entered at the beginning, then you need to increase the Calories Out by way of exercise.
So, happy logging, and watch those numbers. That's all there is to it.2 -
Neither for me. Completely 100% not necessary.2
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I think everyone already chimed in nicely. I personally would not do a cheat day. It's all about daily balance to achieve goals. I make room everyday for a "treat" whether it's sweet or savory. If your body feels it's being deprived of an item you're more likely to "obsess" over it until you have your cheat day and consume more than you intended.
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OP-since you are new, I will point out that you can track your weekly "balance" under the nutrition tab. So if you know Friday's are going to be higher, you can scale back a little on other days and still hit your weekly deficit.4
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If i want to have some of my favorite chips during the day, i fit it in, i'll have one ounce instead of half the bag. I still eat things i enjoy, however I hardly ever used to eat sweets,but do like ice cream occasionally so i have a cone with 1/2 cup of ice cream which is enough but if i did have a sweet tooth I would need advice1
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A "cheat meal" depends on the "diet". I don't do chray meals or cheat days. I do a " splurge meal". This means since I plan my meals out and they to eat the same thing at the same time each day for a week, I splurge on ONLY ONE meal once a week. That doesn't mean pizza and brownies. That means a healthy unprocessed meal not eaten throughout the week such as a baked sweet potato, fried brown rice or something like that. Definitely NOT trigger foods.0
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Um.... 4th Krispy Kreme?? 4th!!
You are not on a diet if you are eating 4 donuts. You can probably fit half a donut into your calories/macros. MAYBE a whole one... but that should be plenty anyways.
You can still eat treat foods, just keep them in moderation and work them into your calories. If you want that donut skip make your dinner low carb & low fat.
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I think you asked and answered your own questions.. do what you want and what works for you.0
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Hello! I totally understand the thought process behind considering a cheat day/meal. I also have wondered this.
However..here is what works for me. I find a regular planned cheat leads me to get really obsessed with my cheat meal..I look forward to it and become obsessed and ultimately I binge more than necessary and end up eating back all the calories I cut during the rest of the week. It's easy enough to do...especially if you already know you have a tendency to extend that cheating to a weekend...or, like me find that one donut just isn't enough!
So I simply try to work as many nice "treat foods" into my daily diet as I can within my calorie allowances. When I log in advance Ali plan a nice dinner first. So I know I have a meal I will truly enjoy. Then I work everything else around it. Or if I know I want to go out for coffee I plan my calories for the day around the latte I want.
Does that mean I never take a break? No. If I go to a birthday party I'm gonna have cake! If it's my anniversary or birthday I'm going for dinner and drinking wine. And getting dessert. But because these occasions are not that often, it's OK!
For me the key to sustainable weight loss is making sure you don't let dieting ruin the I portent stuff. Your birthday, anniversary, Christmas (maybe a cheat day here ), maybe a family wedding...allow a cheat meal on those days.
These rest of the time just stick to your diet and don't make unnecessarily restrictive.
Good luck
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LukeAdrianBoardman wrote: »What works for you? do you have a cheat meal/day every week? every two weeks.
I stuck to my diet like glue for 16 weeks with NO cheat days whatsoever ... absolutely no going over my calorie limit. At the 16 week point, I hit my first goal, so I took a month off to travel and decide what I wanted to do next. I decided to stick with it for another 16 weeks and hit my second goal.
Cheat days are not necessary.
Instead, I exercised enough to be able to have quite a bit of flexibility in my diet. I was eating a whole pizza about once a month. Gotta love long distance cycling!
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courtneyfabulous wrote: »Um.... 4th Krispy Kreme?? 4th!!
You are not on a diet if you are eating 4 donuts. You can probably fit half a donut into your calories/macros. MAYBE a whole one... but that should be plenty anyways.
You can still eat treat foods, just keep them in moderation and work them into your calories. If you want that donut skip make your dinner low carb & low fat.
Low carb is not necessary unless OP has a medical condition.2 -
courtneyfabulous wrote: »Um.... 4th Krispy Kreme?? 4th!!
You are not on a diet if you are eating 4 donuts. You can probably fit half a donut into your calories/macros. MAYBE a whole one... but that should be plenty anyways.
You can still eat treat foods, just keep them in moderation and work them into your calories. If you want that donut skip make your dinner low carb & low fat.
4 Krispy Kremes are ~760kcal. If someone wants to forgo a meal or two to fit them in, that's their prerogative. It doesn't mean they're doing anything wrong.
Also, no one should be eating low carb and low fat at the same time. And they don't have to eat either low carb or low fat unless they have medical reasons.6
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