I'm Starving!!!
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kschwab0203 wrote: »I am 35 years old, 5'3, and 195 lbs. Looking to lose about 20 lbs for now. Right now my activity is low. I had been walking every morning which is really the only chance I have to exercise with a full time job and 3 kids. But, I have not walked at all in the last two weeks as it has become more and more dark in the morning during the time that I have to go. Not comfortable walking in the dark.
I wouldn't walk in the dark either. Maybe you can do some YouTube exercise videos.0 -
OP, you're thread kind of got hijacked, but here's my 2 cents on hunger. When I re-started this journey in January it was with a fierce determination to succeed. Part of that was learning to deal with "feeling" hungry. I'd ask myself if I was truly hungry or just kind of feeling sorry for myself because I could no longer eat with abandon. I started with an aggressive 2 pound/week loss and gradually as the weight came off decreased my goal by 1/2 pound increments. I am close to my goal weight so am now down to 1/2 pound/week and not too worried about losing every week. I still feel hungry now and then, but I know that I am eating well so I try to ignore it. If I can't then I usually just go for a walk, play with the dog, drink a glass of water...anything to distract me from thinking about food.0
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This has turned awful talking about rape. To each his own dark or light outside . No one on here needs to understand. It's not that serious. We're just a bunch of strangers. OP was just asking about hunger.0
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »kschwab0203 wrote: »I am 35 years old, 5'3, and 195 lbs. Looking to lose about 20 lbs for now. Right now my activity is low. I had been walking every morning which is really the only chance I have to exercise with a full time job and 3 kids. But, I have not walked at all in the last two weeks as it has become more and more dark in the morning during the time that I have to go. Not comfortable walking in the dark.
I get this issue with walking in the dark..
I actually do run or walk in the pitch dark in the a.m. and it is scary.. I am looking forward to my 5:30 a.m. walks being more like it is at day break at 6:30 a.m. We have some street lights out in the neighborhood as well not helpful.. Good luck!
Yeah...but you do it :-). Just because I'm curious is it a "I might trip" kind of scary or a "someone may be lurking in the shadows" kind of scary?
But why does it matter...
It is freaking scary to walk in the dark in my home let alone on the silent dark streets in my neighborhood which I will eventually travel a couple of miles from door step and alone.
eta I do it and don't like it all..
It doesn't matter I just don't get it and was curious thats all. I prefer the dark, its quieter...kind of serene less cars and other nonesense in the way, less likely you'll be stuck on a corner waiting for traffic etc. Usually go at night though not the morning, like heck I'm getting up at 5:30am. Thats what scares me...mornings.
The darkness itself is not scary, the world in which we live in is.
There is something about clarity from a morning run or walk.. i do love that and my day is officially started off right after my a.m. run (or walk days) ..
Call me crazy but I don't think muggers really target people in workout clothes at 5:30 in the morning who probably don't even have a wallet on them.
How can you not get this? In daylight there are witnesses and you can see your attacker coming. In the dark people lurk in doorways. This is not a vivid imagination - I've lived through being regularly harassed, propositioned, followed because I had the nerve to walk home from the subway at night. And female joggers are frequent targets, or at least the media makes it seem so. The fear is real and founded.7 -
Decided to just stop this cycle of replying.2
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OK, putting aside the rape culture talk, if you're uncomfortable going out at night there's plenty of exercises you can do in your living room. There's tons of free exercise videos on YouTube and if you've the room/money an exercise bike can do wonders. My friend likes to put on an episode of a show and just go. Myself, I am a Dance Dance revolution fan.0
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I know everyone is different, but for me, I'm more hungry on the days I DON'T work out in some way. I was also quite hungry the first week or two until my tummy was like, "oh.... I see.... I'm not going to get as much anymore." Just keep with it. One big help, too, is water. If you feel hunger pains coming on, slam a glass of water. Most of the time, your body is actually just thirsty, and we mistake it for hunger. "Food" for thought.... lol1
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kschwab0203 wrote: »Ok so I just started MFP this week and I have been doing a great job in keeping within my daily goals. Initially, MFP put me a t 1200 calories per day for a 2 lb. per week loss, but after talking with some of you and not wanting to set myself for failure or binge eating which I am prone to, I dropped it down to 1 lb per week and 1450 calories per day.
Today I am starving!!!!
I had a turkey wrap with cheese on flatout bread this morning along with my morning coffee. High in protein and some fat which is what is supposed to help with the hunger. Every other day I have been fine. Not starving like this!
Did I restrict too much? I only ate about 1250 calories yesterday which were all mostly before dinner.
Any thought? Advice?
You've only been doing this a week. I found that the first two weeks were the most difficult. Since you have just started give yourself a few weeks for your body to adapt to your new way of eating.
You have gotten some really great advice on this thread already. If MFP gave you that 1450 number then they expect you to eat back calories for exercise you do above normal everyday activities. Did you calculate your correct activity level? (I like using a TDEE calculator better personally so I don't have to "eat back" calories.)
It appears that you are trying to change your macros around to see if that helps with your satiety. I have found that high carb/low fat made me hungry. High protein/low fat also made me hungry. But low carb/high fat blunted my appetite and regulated my hunger.
I've recently readjusted and switched to keeping the low carb lunch to keep early afternoon cravings away. But I'm including a small serving of starchy vegetables like beans, potatoes, rice, or low glycemic pasta, etc with dinner so I can eat what my family eats. As long as I eat the starchy carb with protein and fiber I don't get the cravings soon after eating dinner.
As you go along you will find what works best for you. If something doesn't work, then try something else. What works for one person won't necessarily work for another. I like intermittent fasting and skip breakfast. But a lot of people love breakfast and could never give it up, for instance.
Don't get upset by fluctuations or changes up or down within a few pounds. That is normal. Instead look at the trend downward and weight loss over time.
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You could be less aggressive with the weight loss and bump your calories up. Use IIFYM calculator. It's much more realistic with macros.1
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kschwab0203 wrote: »Ok so I just started MFP this week and I have been doing a great job in keeping within my daily goals. Initially, MFP put me a t 1200 calories per day for a 2 lb. per week loss, but after talking with some of you and not wanting to set myself for failure or binge eating which I am prone to, I dropped it down to 1 lb per week and 1450 calories per day.
Today I am starving!!!!
I had a turkey wrap with cheese on flatout bread this morning along with my morning coffee. High in protein and some fat which is what is supposed to help with the hunger. Every other day I have been fine. Not starving like this!
Did I restrict too much? I only ate about 1250 calories yesterday which were all mostly before dinner.
Any thought? Advice?
Well, you ate below your goal yesterday so that might leave you hungry today. You could eat those 200 calories today. Look at your weekly calories as well as daily.
For exercise that is not outside in the dark-
Tons of free workout videos on You Tube.
You could walk around inside your home with zero risk. I often set a timer and turn on music or a podcast and walk around the house for awhile. The scenery doesn't change but it is still exercise... maybe invest in a treadmill.0 -
Yes, walking at night became the topic, not her original question. The conversation digressed and wasn't really helpful to her at all other than confirming or questioning her decision to not walk at night. She said she doesn't like to walk at night, end of discussion.
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OP, you've gotten great advice for balancing out your caloric intake by managing your calories weekly.
If that doesn't work, you could also try different balances of carbs/fats/proteins to see what fills you up better. While you're doing that, try to round out your meals with lots of low calorie, high fiber vegetables. Fiber tends to help most people feel full in combination with either fat, protein, starch or some combination of all of these (depending on how that person is wired).
Also make sure that you're drinking plenty of water. A lot of people mistake thirst for hunger.
If walking outside is problematic, look up Leslie Sansone videos on youtube.0 -
Yes, walking at night became the topic, not her original question. The conversation digressed and wasn't really helpful to her at all other than confirming or questioning her decision to not walk at night. She said she doesn't like to walk at night, end of discussion.
I agree actually, should have focused more on the OPs question and stopped the cycle of replies earlier by just ceasing to reply.2 -
Yes, walking at night became the topic, not her original question. The conversation digressed and wasn't really helpful to her at all other than confirming or questioning her decision to not walk at night. She said she doesn't like to walk at night, end of discussion.
I'm agreeing that no one needs to question OP or safety decisions made by anyone as a matter of fact . People are trying to be supportive of her.2 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »
Yes, walking at night became the topic, not her original question. The conversation digressed and wasn't really helpful to her at all other than confirming or questioning her decision to not walk at night. She said she doesn't like to walk at night, end of discussion.
I agree actually, should have focused more on the OPs question and stopped the cycle of replies earlier by just ceasing to reply.
Yeah. The "I don't get it" response is what caused people to try to help you understand.3 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »
Yes, walking at night became the topic, not her original question. The conversation digressed and wasn't really helpful to her at all other than confirming or questioning her decision to not walk at night. She said she doesn't like to walk at night, end of discussion.
I agree actually, should have focused more on the OPs question and stopped the cycle of replies earlier by just ceasing to reply.
Yeah. The "I don't get it" response is what caused people to try to help you understand.
I think the conversation that was had was fine and I don't regret that (unless I caused offense and then I do regret that). I just agree not the place for it. Speaking of which, probably not the time for this meta post-game analysis style breakdown of it either so I'll stop responding there as well 3 -
True. Everything that needed to be said has already been verbalized. ApologiesAaron_K123 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »
Yes, walking at night became the topic, not her original question. The conversation digressed and wasn't really helpful to her at all other than confirming or questioning her decision to not walk at night. She said she doesn't like to walk at night, end of discussion.
I agree actually, should have focused more on the OPs question and stopped the cycle of replies earlier by just ceasing to reply.
Yeah. The "I don't get it" response is what caused people to try to help you understand.
---Speaking of which, probably not the time for this meta posit-game analysis style breakdown of it either0 -
kschwab0203 wrote: »Ok so I just started MFP this week and I have been doing a great job in keeping within my daily goals. Initially, MFP put me a t 1200 calories per day for a 2 lb. per week loss, but after talking with some of you and not wanting to set myself for failure or binge eating which I am prone to, I dropped it down to 1 lb per week and 1450 calories per day.
Today I am starving!!!!
I had a turkey wrap with cheese on flatout bread this morning along with my morning coffee. High in protein and some fat which is what is supposed to help with the hunger. Every other day I have been fine. Not starving like this!
Did I restrict too much? I only ate about 1250 calories yesterday which were all mostly before dinner.
Any thought? Advice?
Well, you ate below your goal yesterday so that might leave you hungry today. You could eat those 200 calories today. Look at your weekly calories as well as daily.
For exercise that is not outside in the dark-
Tons of free workout videos on You Tube.
You could walk around inside your home with zero risk. I often set a timer and turn on music or a podcast and walk around the house for awhile. The scenery doesn't change but it is still exercise... maybe invest in a treadmill.
Another vote for eating yesterday's leftover calories today.
This time of year I switch to walking at lunch time. If I don't get some form of exercise at lunch I am sluggish, sleepy, and unproductive in the afternoon at work. I also get the munchies.
When I was walking after work last month and it was dark when I ended my walk, I was uneasy, despite having a cell phone, pepper spray, self-defense training, military training, and being 5'6" and large-framed. None of that negates me being female, and not as strong as a determined male assailant.
Earlier this year, there was an attempted rape in a park in my county and the murder of a female jogger in Princeton, MA remains unsolved.
While I realize it is statistically unlikely for anything bad to happen to me, I still have that sense of unease when alone in the woods at night. When my 75 pound husky was alive, I felt safe walking at night with him.
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Do you have a dog you can walk with? or borrow a friends dog? How about bike riding? carry pepper spray.
What I did so i won't be hungry is found food that are filling for me & eat snacks in between. Example for me is microwaved potato, large serving of veggie and a protein, chicken, beef, ground turkey, etc then a big glass of water & in less then 20min I'm full. Recently i've been making 1/2 C oatmeal(dry measurement) with 1 Tbl of sugar free jam & tub of my coffee creamer added at night. The best thing for me is making fruit/veggie shakes in our nutribullit. I use lite yogurt, unsweetened almond milk, spinach, carrots, zucchini & frozen tropical fruit. Hubby adds nuts & flaxseed, cerlery. you can add whatever you want.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »kschwab0203 wrote: »Ok so I just started MFP this week and I have been doing a great job in keeping within my daily goals. Initially, MFP put me a t 1200 calories per day for a 2 lb. per week loss, but after talking with some of you and not wanting to set myself for failure or binge eating which I am prone to, I dropped it down to 1 lb per week and 1450 calories per day.
Today I am starving!!!!
I had a turkey wrap with cheese on flatout bread this morning along with my morning coffee. High in protein and some fat which is what is supposed to help with the hunger. Every other day I have been fine. Not starving like this!
Did I restrict too much? I only ate about 1250 calories yesterday which were all mostly before dinner.
Any thought? Advice?
Well, you ate below your goal yesterday so that might leave you hungry today. You could eat those 200 calories today. Look at your weekly calories as well as daily.
For exercise that is not outside in the dark-
Tons of free workout videos on You Tube.
You could walk around inside your home with zero risk. I often set a timer and turn on music or a podcast and walk around the house for awhile. The scenery doesn't change but it is still exercise... maybe invest in a treadmill.
Another vote for eating yesterday's leftover calories today.
This time of year I switch to walking at lunch time. If I don't get some form of exercise at lunch I am sluggish, sleepy, and unproductive in the afternoon at work. I also get the munchies.
When I was walking after work last month and it was dark when I ended my walk, I was uneasy, despite having a cell phone, pepper spray, self-defense training, military training, and being 5'6" and large-framed. None of that negates me being female, and not as strong as a determined male assailant.
Earlier this year, there was an attempted rape in a park in my county and the murder of a female jogger in Princeton, MA remains unsolved.
While I realize it is statistically unlikely for anything bad to happen to me, I still have that sense of unease when alone in the woods at night. When my 75 pound husky was alive, I felt safe walking at night with him.
Off topic, but what a beautiful dog. I love huskies -- our neighbor had them when I was growing up.3 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »kschwab0203 wrote: »I am 35 years old, 5'3, and 195 lbs. Looking to lose about 20 lbs for now. Right now my activity is low. I had been walking every morning which is really the only chance I have to exercise with a full time job and 3 kids. But, I have not walked at all in the last two weeks as it has become more and more dark in the morning during the time that I have to go. Not comfortable walking in the dark.
I get this issue with walking in the dark..
I actually do run or walk in the pitch dark in the a.m. and it is scary.. I am looking forward to my 5:30 a.m. walks being more like it is at day break at 6:30 a.m. We have some street lights out in the neighborhood as well not helpful.. Good luck!
Yeah...but you do it :-). Just because I'm curious is it a "I might trip" kind of scary or a "someone may be lurking in the shadows" kind of scary?
But why does it matter...
It is freaking scary to walk in the dark in my home let alone on the silent dark streets in my neighborhood which I will eventually travel a couple of miles from door step and alone.
eta I do it and don't like it all..
It doesn't matter I just don't get it and was curious thats all. I prefer the dark, its quieter...kind of serene less cars and other nonesense in the way, less likely you'll be stuck on a corner waiting for traffic etc. Usually go at night though not the morning, like heck I'm getting up at 5:30am. Thats what scares me...mornings.
Just please remember as a man, you don't have to fear being raped the way women do. Hence the movement during Sexual Assault Awareness Month of "Take Back the Night."
You're lucky you get to prefer the dark and go out in it without fear. Most women don't have that luxury.6 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »kschwab0203 wrote: »I am 35 years old, 5'3, and 195 lbs. Looking to lose about 20 lbs for now. Right now my activity is low. I had been walking every morning which is really the only chance I have to exercise with a full time job and 3 kids. But, I have not walked at all in the last two weeks as it has become more and more dark in the morning during the time that I have to go. Not comfortable walking in the dark.
I get this issue with walking in the dark..
I actually do run or walk in the pitch dark in the a.m. and it is scary.. I am looking forward to my 5:30 a.m. walks being more like it is at day break at 6:30 a.m. We have some street lights out in the neighborhood as well not helpful.. Good luck!
Yeah...but you do it :-). Just because I'm curious is it a "I might trip" kind of scary or a "someone may be lurking in the shadows" kind of scary?
But why does it matter...
It is freaking scary to walk in the dark in my home let alone on the silent dark streets in my neighborhood which I will eventually travel a couple of miles from door step and alone.
eta I do it and don't like it all..
It doesn't matter I just don't get it and was curious thats all. I prefer the dark, its quieter...kind of serene less cars and other nonesense in the way, less likely you'll be stuck on a corner waiting for traffic etc. Usually go at night though not the morning, like heck I'm getting up at 5:30am. Thats what scares me...mornings.
You probably don't get it because you are a man. Woman are often raised to be aware of their surroundings and not to put themselves in dangerous situations. We are taught to park in well lit areas and not to be out walking alone in the dark.
Probably so. But as stated...I don't get it. Doesn't mean I can't have empathy though, just means I struggle to understand it and if say just having a headlamp would help or something. But as I said, should probably just drop it not all that important to the OPs question. I think on some level the idea that half the population lives in fear of the other half to the point that they decide not to exercise is deeply troubling.
And it affects everyone, not just women.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »kschwab0203 wrote: »Ok so I just started MFP this week and I have been doing a great job in keeping within my daily goals. Initially, MFP put me a t 1200 calories per day for a 2 lb. per week loss, but after talking with some of you and not wanting to set myself for failure or binge eating which I am prone to, I dropped it down to 1 lb per week and 1450 calories per day.
Today I am starving!!!!
I had a turkey wrap with cheese on flatout bread this morning along with my morning coffee. High in protein and some fat which is what is supposed to help with the hunger. Every other day I have been fine. Not starving like this!
Did I restrict too much? I only ate about 1250 calories yesterday which were all mostly before dinner.
Any thought? Advice?
Well, you ate below your goal yesterday so that might leave you hungry today. You could eat those 200 calories today. Look at your weekly calories as well as daily.
For exercise that is not outside in the dark-
Tons of free workout videos on You Tube.
You could walk around inside your home with zero risk. I often set a timer and turn on music or a podcast and walk around the house for awhile. The scenery doesn't change but it is still exercise... maybe invest in a treadmill.
Another vote for eating yesterday's leftover calories today.
This time of year I switch to walking at lunch time. If I don't get some form of exercise at lunch I am sluggish, sleepy, and unproductive in the afternoon at work. I also get the munchies.
When I was walking after work last month and it was dark when I ended my walk, I was uneasy, despite having a cell phone, pepper spray, self-defense training, military training, and being 5'6" and large-framed. None of that negates me being female, and not as strong as a determined male assailant.
Earlier this year, there was an attempted rape in a park in my county and the murder of a female jogger in Princeton, MA remains unsolved.
While I realize it is statistically unlikely for anything bad to happen to me, I still have that sense of unease when alone in the woods at night. When my 75 pound husky was alive, I felt safe walking at night with him.
What a beautiful boy...I imagine I'd feel comfortable walking with him too
One more thing and I swear I'll let it go...the important thing to remember when discussing risk assessment is that the likelihood of the event is not the only factor, one also must assess the severity of the consequences.
Daytime-High likelihood of being catcalled but low level of consequence (other than just being reminded that you're not in control), nighttime-low likelihood of being brutally raped and murdered but obviously much higher consequence.
An interesting study recently said that when dating online women's most common fear was that her date would be a serial killer, men's was that she would be fat. Just sayin.4 -
Not completely sure if OP's original hesitation to run in the dark was security related, or safety from getting hurt (tripping, falling, snakes, etc). But I will chime in that I run Pre-dawn and just got a ball cap with blinky red lights on the back, and white LED lights built into the brim that light the path about 10 feet ahead of you. It's awesome (unless it's foggy, then it just makes it worse).0
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geneticsteacher wrote: »Very few women are comfortable walking/running alone in the dark. I wouldn't.
I got a dog to go with me because I didn't like it.
It sucks that we have to worry, but we have to worry.2 -
You'll get days like this, just randomly out of the blue it seems.
I rely on hard boiled eggs with a shake of salt during the day. Limit to two a day.
I save enough calories to have a 0% Greek yogurt. Chobani vanilla. 1 cup. I feel like I've splurged. It's healthy. I can't sleep if I go to bed hungry.0 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »kschwab0203 wrote: »I am 35 years old, 5'3, and 195 lbs. Looking to lose about 20 lbs for now. Right now my activity is low. I had been walking every morning which is really the only chance I have to exercise with a full time job and 3 kids. But, I have not walked at all in the last two weeks as it has become more and more dark in the morning during the time that I have to go. Not comfortable walking in the dark.
I get this issue with walking in the dark..
I actually do run or walk in the pitch dark in the a.m. and it is scary.. I am looking forward to my 5:30 a.m. walks being more like it is at day break at 6:30 a.m. We have some street lights out in the neighborhood as well not helpful.. Good luck!
Yeah...but you do it :-). Just because I'm curious is it a "I might trip" kind of scary or a "someone may be lurking in the shadows" kind of scary?
But why does it matter...
It is freaking scary to walk in the dark in my home let alone on the silent dark streets in my neighborhood which I will eventually travel a couple of miles from door step and alone.
eta I do it and don't like it all..
It doesn't matter I just don't get it and was curious thats all. I prefer the dark, its quieter...kind of serene less cars and other nonesense in the way, less likely you'll be stuck on a corner waiting for traffic etc. Usually go at night though not the morning, like heck I'm getting up at 5:30am. Thats what scares me...mornings.
But you are a 6' + male. Would you feel comfortable with your mom, sister, or GF/wife walking or jogging alone at night or pre-dawn?
As a 6'+ female, I can't help wondering how much size matters. Because I don't tend to be afraid of being attacked. I know I'm something of an anomaly, though. Just wondering if it's because of my height or my brain patterns XD
However, my husband does worry about me, so I try to make sure that if I'm out on a walk by myself, I get back before dark. I think that's perfectly reasonable. It's not that I'm following orders; I'm a (somewhat) mature, (occasionally) responsible adult and I try to be considerate of others' feelings.3 -
clicketykeys wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »kschwab0203 wrote: »I am 35 years old, 5'3, and 195 lbs. Looking to lose about 20 lbs for now. Right now my activity is low. I had been walking every morning which is really the only chance I have to exercise with a full time job and 3 kids. But, I have not walked at all in the last two weeks as it has become more and more dark in the morning during the time that I have to go. Not comfortable walking in the dark.
I get this issue with walking in the dark..
I actually do run or walk in the pitch dark in the a.m. and it is scary.. I am looking forward to my 5:30 a.m. walks being more like it is at day break at 6:30 a.m. We have some street lights out in the neighborhood as well not helpful.. Good luck!
Yeah...but you do it :-). Just because I'm curious is it a "I might trip" kind of scary or a "someone may be lurking in the shadows" kind of scary?
But why does it matter...
It is freaking scary to walk in the dark in my home let alone on the silent dark streets in my neighborhood which I will eventually travel a couple of miles from door step and alone.
eta I do it and don't like it all..
It doesn't matter I just don't get it and was curious thats all. I prefer the dark, its quieter...kind of serene less cars and other nonesense in the way, less likely you'll be stuck on a corner waiting for traffic etc. Usually go at night though not the morning, like heck I'm getting up at 5:30am. Thats what scares me...mornings.
But you are a 6' + male. Would you feel comfortable with your mom, sister, or GF/wife walking or jogging alone at night or pre-dawn?
As a 6'+ female, I can't help wondering how much size matters. Because I don't tend to be afraid of being attacked. I know I'm something of an anomaly, though. Just wondering if it's because of my height or my brain patterns XD
However, my husband does worry about me, so I try to make sure that if I'm out on a walk by myself, I get back before dark. I think that's perfectly reasonable. It's not that I'm following orders; I'm a (somewhat) mature, (occasionally) responsible adult and I try to be considerate of others' feelings.
I'm 5'8 and the average guy is 5'9". I've never had anyone try anything with me, fortunately. I grew up around guys and am not afraid of men in general and like them.
I just want to stay away from the rare, sick individual who can use an element of surprise to overpower. I guess I've watched one too many news reports to think that it is impossible. Although in actuality, I realize my odds of getting hit by a car at night on the road would probably be more likely because the driver might not be paying attention.3
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