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Flu shots? For them or against ?
jordanchamzuk
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Wanna see what other people think about this topic.
I for one am very neutral on it. Working in Healthcare I see if fit. However I also see negative effects of it.
What's your thoughts?
I for one am very neutral on it. Working in Healthcare I see if fit. However I also see negative effects of it.
What's your thoughts?
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Before I was immunosuppressed I never got them but now that I am hell yes I am getting them. I know they only cover a few strains but since I could get very, very sick any immunity is better than none23
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in before the crazy starts.
I get flu shots every year.43 -
I'm for the prevention of disease.30
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for - my wife works in a hospital so we are exposed to all sorts of wonderful things...19
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I used to have the flu jab every year because I did voluntary work with at-risk people. I now have the flu jab every year because I'm an at-risk person.12
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I get a flu shot every year, have not had a cold or flu in 5 years, since starting the shots.19
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I get one every year...I've never had a negative effect...13
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I rarely get one but I am not against them. I usually think "I should get one of those" and then I forget about it.
I have my daughter get one at school. I forget the name of the group that sponsors the program but I like it because it's all done at school, no doctor's appointment needed, plus it is free.
My husband does not get one.8 -
I get mine annually. View it as a civic duty not really something to question. An exception would be if you were somehow immunocomprimised and it was an attenuated strain then you might have a reason to avoid it.
Flu shots are developed annualy based on predictions of what strain is likely to predominate in a given area in the world. That predicition is very much like a weather prediction and can be just as flawed. Sometimes what that means is everyone gets vaccinated for strain A in a given year because the prediction is strain A will be predominate but instead strain B sweeps through and a lot of people are affected, even those who were vaccinated.
Anti-vax people love to rub that into our faces claiming its evidence that vaccines don't work but they just totally miss what is actually happening.
The reason new flu vaccines have to be continually developed is because of the changes to strains and us having to adapt to that.41 -
Around here they only give shots with the dead virus and the nasal spray is live.Aaron_K123 wrote: »I get mine annually. View it as a civic duty not really something to question. An exception would be if you were somehow immunocomprimised and it was an attenuated strain then you might have a reason to avoid it.1 -
Never had one. Don't plan on getting one any time soon but when I'm older I might need them.14
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I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but I've never gotten one again since.
I'm not at all against them in general, not against them being offered, not against other people getting them if they so choose. I'm not an anti-vaxxer and have no tinfoil hat theories about them.21 -
I used to get them and now I don't. I've been sick quite a bit so I'm starting up again! - If for nothing else, all adults should think about getting them to protect any children they have around them.
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I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year.
I'm not at all against them in general, not against them being offered, not against other people getting them if they so choose.
You probably would have gotten sick anyways since it takes 2 weeks for the shot to be effective and they contain dead virus so unless you had the nasal spray or one with live virus it's impossible to get the flu from the vaccine.52 -
Get one every year - for me its mandatory working as a volunteer paramedic and government contractor working in a primary care capacity. As a microbiologist I have the same evidence based conclusion as @Aaron_K123. It's a civic duty and dramatically reduces the spread of the virus.16
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I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but I've never gotten one again since.
This touched on my main question I'm trying to get out of the "negative" effects. I've had patients who were healthy their whole life then suggested the shot due to the increase of their age and "at risk" homes, then a few months later they are diagnosed with somthing way worse then an influenza. Now is this coincidence or are the other chemicals at charge causing these diagnostics12 -
singingflutelady wrote: »I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year.
I'm not at all against them in general, not against them being offered, not against other people getting them if they so choose.
You probably would have gotten sick anyways since it takes 2 weeks for the shot to be effective and they contain dead virus so unless you had the nasal spray or one with live virus it's impossible to get the flu from the vaccine.
Yeah, I got the flu one year after the shot...each year they take a best-guess on which strains to include in the vaccine for that season - so it's not effective against all strains and it's possible to get a different strain of flu and still get sick.
I like that each year it's different, so each year I'm actually adding to the number of strains I am building immunity against.
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I get them because I work in healthcare. I have no problems with vaccinations and have never had any adverse affects.10
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jordanchamzuk wrote: »I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but I've never gotten one again since.
This touched on my main question I'm trying to get out of the "negative" effects. I've had patients who were healthy their whole life then suggested the shot due to the increase of their age and "at risk" homes, then a few months later they are diagnosed with somthing way worse then an influenza. Now is this coincidence or are the other chemicals at charge causing these diagnostics
It's almost certainly a coincidence. People are going to get ill. Some of those people will have had flu shots. That doesn't mean there is a connection.35 -
cmriverside wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year.
I'm not at all against them in general, not against them being offered, not against other people getting them if they so choose.
You probably would have gotten sick anyways since it takes 2 weeks for the shot to be effective and they contain dead virus so unless you had the nasal spray or one with live virus it's impossible to get the flu from the vaccine.
Yeah, I got the flu one year after the shot...each year they take a best-guess on which strains to include in the vaccine for that season - so it's not effective against all strains and it's possible to get a different strain of flu and still get sick.
I like that each year it's different, so each year I'm actually adding to the number of strains I am building immunity against.
Me too. As an immunosuppressed person it lowers my anxiety level quite a bit.5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »jordanchamzuk wrote: »I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but I've never gotten one again since.
This touched on my main question I'm trying to get out of the "negative" effects. I've had patients who were healthy their whole life then suggested the shot due to the increase of their age and "at risk" homes, then a few months later they are diagnosed with somthing way worse then an influenza. Now is this coincidence or are the other chemicals at charge causing these diagnostics
It's almost certainly a coincidence. People are going to get ill. Some of those people will have had flu shots. That doesn't mean there is a connection.
Playing the Devils advocate. In the case of guillain-barré syndrome one of the questions to lead a physician to that diagnosis is weather you have had the flu shot.12 -
well for... of course. why put your life in any kind of sickness if you do not have to. no brainer really. I think the people that are against are just afraid of needles.3
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jordanchamzuk wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jordanchamzuk wrote: »I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but I've never gotten one again since.
This touched on my main question I'm trying to get out of the "negative" effects. I've had patients who were healthy their whole life then suggested the shot due to the increase of their age and "at risk" homes, then a few months later they are diagnosed with somthing way worse then an influenza. Now is this coincidence or are the other chemicals at charge causing these diagnostics
It's almost certainly a coincidence. People are going to get ill. Some of those people will have had flu shots. That doesn't mean there is a connection.
Playing the Devils advocate. In the case of guillain-barré syndrome one of the questions to lead a physician to that diagnosis is weather you have had the flu shot.
They are just as interested in whether you have had any type of virus.
I think trying to spread fear around a very safe vaccine is irresponsible for a healthcare worker...
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I never used to get them because I never get sick then one year I got the flu and was sooooo sick I started getting them. Now I am being lackadaisical about it so I don't get them.3
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KANGOOJUMPS wrote: »well for... of course. why put your life in any kind of sickness if you do not have to. no brainer really. I think the people that are against are just afraid of needles.
I administer shots to my wife and myself. That blows your theory.
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cmriverside wrote: »jordanchamzuk wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jordanchamzuk wrote: »I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but I've never gotten one again since.
This touched on my main question I'm trying to get out of the "negative" effects. I've had patients who were healthy their whole life then suggested the shot due to the increase of their age and "at risk" homes, then a few months later they are diagnosed with somthing way worse then an influenza. Now is this coincidence or are the other chemicals at charge causing these diagnostics
It's almost certainly a coincidence. People are going to get ill. Some of those people will have had flu shots. That doesn't mean there is a connection.
Playing the Devils advocate. In the case of guillain-barré syndrome one of the questions to lead a physician to that diagnosis is weather you have had the flu shot.
They are just as interested in whether you have had any type of virus.
I think trying to spread fear around a very safe vaccine is irresponsible for a healthcare worker...
By no means am I trying to spread fear. Like I said I'm neither for nor against. To each their own. I've seen it in the past so that's why I'm curious. Yes flu shots and vaccines are very important take the MMR vacancies for example.good on you science. But with some of the ingredients you can be exposed to when your immune system it in it self is enough. Now given you are suppressed then totally understandable. Again just questions.. that is why this is posted in the discussion section. Not trying to scare any one off or talk them into getting it. Just curiosity of opinions11 -
cmriverside wrote: »jordanchamzuk wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jordanchamzuk wrote: »I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but I've never gotten one again since.
This touched on my main question I'm trying to get out of the "negative" effects. I've had patients who were healthy their whole life then suggested the shot due to the increase of their age and "at risk" homes, then a few months later they are diagnosed with somthing way worse then an influenza. Now is this coincidence or are the other chemicals at charge causing these diagnostics
It's almost certainly a coincidence. People are going to get ill. Some of those people will have had flu shots. That doesn't mean there is a connection.
Playing the Devils advocate. In the case of guillain-barré syndrome one of the questions to lead a physician to that diagnosis is weather you have had the flu shot.
They are just as interested in whether you have had any type of virus.
I think trying to spread fear around a very safe vaccine is irresponsible for a healthcare worker...
I was thinking the same thing...6 -
My work takes me to hospitals regularly. I ABSOLUTELY get one every year. I've never had any negative reaction to them.
I skipped my flu shot in fall 1996 and got a horrible flu. Not worth it.10 -
That's not really devil's advocate. It's known to happen.jordanchamzuk wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »jordanchamzuk wrote: »I'm against them for me personally because the one year I got a flu shot, I got the worst case of flu I've probably ever had about a week after getting the shot. I rarely ever get sick, but I sure did that year. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but I've never gotten one again since.
This touched on my main question I'm trying to get out of the "negative" effects. I've had patients who were healthy their whole life then suggested the shot due to the increase of their age and "at risk" homes, then a few months later they are diagnosed with somthing way worse then an influenza. Now is this coincidence or are the other chemicals at charge causing these diagnostics
It's almost certainly a coincidence. People are going to get ill. Some of those people will have had flu shots. That doesn't mean there is a connection.
Playing the Devils advocate. In the case of guillain-barré syndrome one of the questions to lead a physician to that diagnosis is weather you have had the flu shot.
All medicine has potential side effects.
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Pro flu shot!3
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