Bogus Serving Sizes

Kay_180
Kay_180 Posts: 38 Member
Is anyone else frustrated with the many recipies posted here under titles like "cozy casseroles for under 350 calories", only to find that the 300 cal serving size is just half a cup? In many cases, it actually makes it a whopping calorie load if you eat full meal serving, and is also too calorie-heavy to be considered a 'healthy' side dish.
It seems like it's just going to either trick people into eating too much, or leave them snacking later because they tried to fill up on half a cup of casserole. I've posted questions about this on a couple of recipies but I never get a response from the authors. Thoughts? Does anyone (other than those who have had gastric bypass surgery) eat just half a cup of food for dinner?

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  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    YES YES. I'm always tempted to comment on FB that even normal cheesecake or pecan pie can have less than 300 calories a serving if you cut it small enough...
  • This irritates me also. No matter where I see this type of thing. Be it food packages or otherwise.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    crazyravr wrote: »
    Reason why I stopped buying pre-packaged foods. I saw a documentary on CBC where they took few of these into a lab and got them tested for the ingredients and macros. Well it turns out that the labels dont have to be exact at all. Some are way under and some are way over. Goes to show you that unless you make it yourself you have no idea what you are eating.

    We have a calorimeter at my work and I am always tempted to do my own investigation. I am particularly skeptical of restaurants that post their calorie counts, yet do nothing to demonstrate that their portion sizes are controlled. Sure, Chipotle, there are only 600 calories in that burrito bowl I just ate. It amazes me what people will accept as truth when they want to believe it.
  • Kay_180
    Kay_180 Posts: 38 Member
    edited November 2016
    Francl27 wrote: »
    YES YES. I'm always tempted to comment on FB that even normal cheesecake or pecan pie can have less than 300 calories a serving if you cut it small enough...

    Some things are worth it, even if you only have a few bites. Kale casserole? Nope.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    a serving of cereal is 30g usually... who can eat that little and not be starving after half an hour!!!!

    a serving of cereal for me is 55-60g!
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    This thread was about recipes though.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    crazyravr wrote: »
    Reason why I stopped buying pre-packaged foods. I saw a documentary on CBC where they took few of these into a lab and got them tested for the ingredients and macros. Well it turns out that the labels dont have to be exact at all. Some are way under and some are way over. Goes to show you that unless you make it yourself you have no idea what you are eating.

    Probably has to do with the way the processing mixes the ingredients or perhaps a change in ingredients and/or processing from the time that the company did their lab testing and when CBC did theirs. There is always some measurement errors as well so there will always be differences but they should be within a reasonable range. Companies have to have their foods tested by independent labs so they aren't actually lying on the labels but I was doing some research for a friend for a product she was looking at producing and when you understand how many of these foods are processed it's not as exact as you would think. There are a lot of variances due to how foods are mixed and how the machines are calibrated etc. It's not as exact as you might think.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member

    Is anyone else frustrated with the many recipies posted here under titles like "cozy casseroles for under 350 calories", only to find that the 300 cal serving size is just half a cup? In many cases, it actually makes it a whopping calorie load if you eat full meal serving, and is also too calorie-heavy to be considered a 'healthy' side dish.
    It seems like it's just going to either trick people into eating too much, or leave them snacking later because they tried to fill up on half a cup of casserole. I've posted questions about this on a couple of recipies but I never get a response from the authors. Thoughts? Does anyone (other than those who have had gastric bypass surgery) eat just half a cup of food for dinner?

    Yes, they are quite small but how do you expect to get a casserole for under 350 and not be a small serving unless it's mostly non-starchy vegetables? Also, the term "healthy" isn't really very helpful so you might as well disregard it anyways. If it's truly a side dish then 1/2 a cup might be fine for some people but you'll have to make that call yourself. Being aware of the true caloric values of your food is a major step forward in weight management so don't be discourage, just understand what is really on your plate.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    This thread was about recipes though.

    :huh:
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Is anyone else frustrated with the many recipies posted here under titles like "cozy casseroles for under 350 calories", only to find that the 300 cal serving size is just half a cup? In many cases, it actually makes it a whopping calorie load if you eat full meal serving, and is also too calorie-heavy to be considered a 'healthy' side dish.
    It seems like it's just going to either trick people into eating too much, or leave them snacking later because they tried to fill up on half a cup of casserole. I've posted questions about this on a couple of recipies but I never get a response from the authors. Thoughts? Does anyone (other than those who have had gastric bypass surgery) eat just half a cup of food for dinner?

    Yes, they are quite small but how do you expect to get a casserole for under 350 and not be a small serving unless it's mostly non-starchy vegetables? Also, the term "healthy" isn't really very helpful so you might as well disregard it anyways. If it's truly a side dish then 1/2 a cup might be fine for some people but you'll have to make that call yourself. Being aware of the true caloric values of your food is a major step forward in weight management so don't be discourage, just understand what is really on your plate.

    I think OP is mostly annoyed at the claim that it's low calorie when it really isn't.

    Also, most of those recipes are way off on the calorie count too... so it could really be 400 a serving or more anyway.

    For what it's worth, I made shepherd's pie last night and my portion was 245 calories (and it wasn't too small either). So it's definitely possible to make lower calorie casseroles.

    What kills me is that 12 tomatoes page on FB. Always claiming how 'you wouldn't believe that this dish is healthy' just because it has veggies as the main ingredient even though it's smothered in cheese. SMH.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    Is anyone else frustrated with the many recipies posted here under titles like "cozy casseroles for under 350 calories", only to find that the 300 cal serving size is just half a cup? In many cases, it actually makes it a whopping calorie load if you eat full meal serving, and is also too calorie-heavy to be considered a 'healthy' side dish.
    It seems like it's just going to either trick people into eating too much, or leave them snacking later because they tried to fill up on half a cup of casserole. I've posted questions about this on a couple of recipies but I never get a response from the authors. Thoughts? Does anyone (other than those who have had gastric bypass surgery) eat just half a cup of food for dinner?

    Yes, they are quite small but how do you expect to get a casserole for under 350 and not be a small serving unless it's mostly non-starchy vegetables? Also, the term "healthy" isn't really very helpful so you might as well disregard it anyways. If it's truly a side dish then 1/2 a cup might be fine for some people but you'll have to make that call yourself. Being aware of the true caloric values of your food is a major step forward in weight management so don't be discourage, just understand what is really on your plate.

    I think OP is mostly annoyed at the claim that it's low calorie when it really isn't.

    Also, most of those recipes are way off on the calorie count too... so it could really be 400 a serving or more anyway.

    For what it's worth, I made shepherd's pie last night and my portion was 245 calories (and it wasn't too small either). So it's definitely possible to make lower calorie casseroles.

    What kills me is that 12 tomatoes page on FB. Always claiming how 'you wouldn't believe that this dish is healthy' just because it has veggies as the main ingredient even though it's smothered in cheese. SMH.

    Low/high calorie is certainly relative to serving size e.g. two table spoons of oil is about 240 calories and might be considered low calorie IF you only have two table spoons of it and nothing else, but I'm guessing most people wouldn't find that satisfying in the least. I'm just advising her to understand that if you have low calorie dishes that are normally higher in calories than you need to understand that it's going to be relative to serving size. It's not exactly deceptive or bogus but it is playing a little fast and loose with the calorie count.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    I always tinker with recipes to increase volume/lower calories. If there is veggies of any type, I will nearly double that, and sometimes even reduce the higher calorie ingredients.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    I always tinker with recipes to increase volume/lower calories. If there is veggies of any type, I will nearly double that, and sometimes even reduce the higher calorie ingredients.

    I've learned that you can usually substitute butter or margarine with apple sauce to lower the calories by a substantial amount.

  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    I always tinker with recipes to increase volume/lower calories. If there is veggies of any type, I will nearly double that, and sometimes even reduce the higher calorie ingredients.

    I've learned that you can usually substitute butter or margarine with apple sauce to lower the calories by a substantial amount.

    Love applesauce as a sweetener (on oatmeal for example). I haven't tried it as a butter substitute though.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    I always tinker with recipes to increase volume/lower calories. If there is veggies of any type, I will nearly double that, and sometimes even reduce the higher calorie ingredients.

    I've learned that you can usually substitute butter or margarine with apple sauce to lower the calories by a substantial amount.

    Love applesauce as a sweetener (on oatmeal for example). I haven't tried it as a butter substitute though.

    Results will be mixed based on what you are using it for. For baking cakes and other light density baked goods it will leave them denser and more chewy but for many recipes you can use it in place of oil or butter with good results. Internet searching will give you some good ideas of where best to use it should you want to.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    a serving of cereal is 30g usually... who can eat that little and not be starving after half an hour!!!!

    a serving of cereal for me is 55-60g!

    The only way cereal is consumed in my world, is by the box.
  • fitoverfortymom
    fitoverfortymom Posts: 3,452 Member
    a serving of cereal is 30g usually... who can eat that little and not be starving after half an hour!!!!

    a serving of cereal for me is 55-60g!

    The only way cereal is consumed in my world, is by the box.

    Same. Although, I can usually stick to 1/2 box if I really try.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    I see this with a lot of "healthy" brownie/cookie/bake recipes. "Under 100 calories a serve!!!"*







    * One 9"x9" pan = 48 serves

    Lol exactly. Who eats such a tiny brownie?
  • kristen6350
    kristen6350 Posts: 1,094 Member
    I bought Trail Mix the other day - serving size 1/4 cup, 140 calories. So I get it home, weigh it and I just stared at it. I'm like "140 calories for THAT". That wouldn't fill up a mouse.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    I bought Trail Mix the other day - serving size 1/4 cup, 140 calories. So I get it home, weigh it and I just stared at it. I'm like "140 calories for THAT". That wouldn't fill up a mouse.

    Trail mix is the worst!!! I can eat 10 servings at a time EASY!
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    This is why portion control matters!!
  • fyree39
    fyree39 Posts: 47 Member
    I struggled with this at dinner tonight. I made a "healthy" dinner with turkey kielbasa and roasted vegetables. I put the one-cup serving on my plate, ate it, then went back for seconds. That one cup felt like an appetizer!
  • fyree39
    fyree39 Posts: 47 Member
    lporter229 wrote: »
    I bought Trail Mix the other day - serving size 1/4 cup, 140 calories. So I get it home, weigh it and I just stared at it. I'm like "140 calories for THAT". That wouldn't fill up a mouse.

    Trail mix is the worst!!! I can eat 10 servings at a time EASY!
    I'm that way with nuts of any kind. I really shouldn't even have them in the house. :*
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    fyree39 wrote: »
    I struggled with this at dinner tonight. I made a "healthy" dinner with turkey kielbasa and roasted vegetables. I put the one-cup serving on my plate, ate it, then went back for seconds. That one cup felt like an appetizer!

    Well to be fair, cups are not accurate at all anyway.
  • Hungry_Shopgirl
    Hungry_Shopgirl Posts: 329 Member
    This thread reminded me of Brian Regan talking about serving sizes:

    https://youtu.be/LBko_3wT44Q