very disappointed on gym what's your thoughts ???
hlektra28
Posts: 84 Member
Hi everyone
i had started gym at the beginning of September
i was planning to go 5 times a week for one hour exactly but this plan failed :P for many reasons so i m trying to go for 3 times a week for one hour.
Since that is the time i have every time i go, the trainer told me to do cardio ( 30 minutes treadmill, 15 elliptical and 15 step ) which i was doing so far but i didn't see any huge difference concerning weight lose and i was feeling tired and HUNGRY....!
Anyway i decided to switch for weights and see if there will be any difference since i started to stall with cardio and not losing , but the trainer seems so disappointed on me and told me you re never going to lose weight doing strength training and gave me a look.... i skip him and i did my strength training but i m thinking if all and everywhere on the internet there re saying that strength training helps you build muscle and finally lose weight WHY everyone i know, tells me not to do weights ????
Are they right ??????
FYI i cant do both because i don't have enough time.
i had started gym at the beginning of September
i was planning to go 5 times a week for one hour exactly but this plan failed :P for many reasons so i m trying to go for 3 times a week for one hour.
Since that is the time i have every time i go, the trainer told me to do cardio ( 30 minutes treadmill, 15 elliptical and 15 step ) which i was doing so far but i didn't see any huge difference concerning weight lose and i was feeling tired and HUNGRY....!
Anyway i decided to switch for weights and see if there will be any difference since i started to stall with cardio and not losing , but the trainer seems so disappointed on me and told me you re never going to lose weight doing strength training and gave me a look.... i skip him and i did my strength training but i m thinking if all and everywhere on the internet there re saying that strength training helps you build muscle and finally lose weight WHY everyone i know, tells me not to do weights ????
Are they right ??????
FYI i cant do both because i don't have enough time.
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Get up earlier, do more? If takes a while to see results.1
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sorry i cant the morning i take my kid to school and go to work then workout0
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Do some reading, gather information from reliable sources and come to an informed decision about what you choose to do based on your goals.
(Weight loss is about creating a deficit in calories over a sustained period, how this is done matters not)4 -
Look at your calorie deficit. If you're not losing weight it's because you're eating too much!7
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I do a mix of weights and cardio and generally spend 1.5 hrs at the gym. Also, weigh your food, count your calories. Remember, muscle burns more calories than fat so build muscle through strength training. Oh, and any personal trainer who tells you NOT to lift weights should be fired. Stop paying that fool.3
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I m not complaining about not losing weight I m asking is it true if I want to lose weight I should NOT do weight lifting or if I do it will be difficult to lose ?0
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I m not complaining about not losing weight I m asking is it true if I want to lose weight I should NOT do weight lifting or if I do it will be difficult to lose ?
Losing weight, specifically the loss of bodyfat, requires a deficit in calories. That's all.
Fat loss will not be hindered by weight training.
Scale reading may show a slight blip that will soon even out.
You are not going to turn in to Ronnie Coleman.5 -
Strength training is a great way to lose weight; but you can do it in half an hour if you're really efficient about what you do. And then do half an hour cardio. I can't see why you can't do both in a full hour. Do five minutes treadmill as a warm up and then five as a cool down. You'll be bored witless on a treadmill for a full 30 minutes anyway surely?2
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Look! I found a blog post on MFP which answers all your questions http://blog.myfitnesspal.com/best-way-spend-40-minutes-gym/ AND you get 20 minutes leftover!!!1
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maybe after a month I can finish in half an hour and do both but right now it takes me an hour to do all the exercises I m planned to do0
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Fire the trainer that says not to lift weights... I'm not a seasoned fitness expert but I do know lifting weights helps you with strength and actually speeds up your metabolism which in turn helps you burn more calories at rest.. If you want to lose weight lift weights.1
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It is funny when you think about it.
Technically the trainer is correct: you will lose more weight by not strength training.
That's because in addition to fat you will lose more lean mass than you will if you strength train.
So yeah, the scale will move faster.
But most sane people are looking to lose fat; not lean mass.
Note that with a small enough deficit and an obese individual you are unlikely to lose much lean mass. The leaner you get and the bigger the deficit the more likely it is that you will lose lean mass, especially if you don't strength train.0 -
cityruss thanks for the answer0
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If you have more muscles, your body needs more energy to 'run' them, therefore you need more calories per day just to keep you and your muscles working. So, with muscles, it could be easier to create a calorie deficit because your 'running costs' (calories required per day) are higher. Obviously it takes time to create muscles but every day is a step in the right direction, just keep at it
Personally, I would recommend a balance of both cardio and strength training.
One day cardio, one day arms? Or 30 mins cardio then 30 mins strength training?1 -
that s what I hear all the time ! (Lose weight first and then do strength training)but why ?
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HJ_Fit this is exactly what I was thinking and wanting to start doing weights0
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well that's not really working for me (generally because cardio buns more calories, so its an 'easy' way to create a big(ger) deficit.)
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It's not the gym I'd be disappointed in... but the personal trainer. You don't need a frigging trainer to do cardio.
Coming from a family with a history of osteoporosis, weight training is about one of the most important things I can do. That and my glutes are starting to look down right nice
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thanks !0
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If you have more muscles, your body needs more energy to 'run' them, therefore you need more calories per day just to keep you and your muscles working. So, with muscles, it could be easier to create a calorie deficit because your 'running costs' (calories required per day) are higher. Obviously it takes time to create muscles but every day is a step in the right direction, just keep at it
Personally, I would recommend a balance of both cardio and strength training.
One day cardio, one day arms? Or 30 mins cardio then 30 mins strength training?
^^ This is the answer.
Your trainer sounds like a moron - quit listening to him/her.
First, it sounds like you have some estimation issues. If you are doing an hour of cardio and counting your calories, you should be losing weight. Most people underestimate food a little and overestimate exercise calories, so I'd suggest trying not eating back exercise calories if you have not been losing for a while doing an hour of cardio...
Do strength training NOW to retain muscle mass as you lose fat. Don't eat back ANY calories for strength training.
Do cardio NOW to create a bigger calorie pool to work with. Technically, if you follow MFP, you eat back your cardio exercise calories, so your deficit stays the same. But, if might be a good idea to eat back only half or none for a while to see what happens.0 -
I didn't say I didn't lose with cardio but not as much as I expected so since it is difficult for me to continue doing cardio I wanted to do strength training instead and I get back a just don't respond from everyone I know because, I ll try to do the exact translation " fat will tighten and you will not be able to lose and you will end up looking like pregnant " and I don't understand why everyone I mean everyone I know tells me that since there isn't true .0
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I didn't say I didn't lose with cardio but not as much as I expected so since it is difficult for me to continue doing cardio I wanted to do strength training instead and I get back a just don't respond from everyone I know because, I ll try to do the exact translation " fat will tighten and you will not be able to lose and you will end up looking like pregnant " and I don't understand why everyone I mean everyone I know tells me that since there isn't true .
none of that makes any sense...
do some cardio, do some strength training, do whichever you enjoy doing.
get your deficit to lose weight from your food intake.
simple!0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »
Can you not read - I said do weights during and never mentioned strength training stopping you lose weight. Ridiculous
your exact words are "Lose weight first and then do strength training."
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so I cant build muscle and lose weight at the same time ? true or false ? what do you mean by except through body recomposition?0
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Maybe I didn't see it above, but why can't you do both during your 1 hour at the gym? When you get to the gym, spend 30 minutes doing strength training using the machines and/or free weights, then spend 30 minutes cardio. I do this 4 days a week right now. I separate my strength into different areas of the body so I can fit in the cardio. You don't have to do every single strength workout there is every single time. But this is what works for me.1
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I didn't say I didn't lose with cardio but not as much as I expected so since it is difficult for me to continue doing cardio I wanted to do strength training instead and I get back a just don't respond from everyone I know because, I ll try to do the exact translation " fat will tighten and you will not be able to lose and you will end up looking like pregnant " and I don't understand why everyone I mean everyone I know tells me that since there isn't true .
Someone told you if you lift weights your fat will tighten and you will look pregnant??? Hmm.. Hope it doesn't happen to me...
So, you WERE losing weight doing cardio and sticking to your diet. How much did you actually lose and what was your target caloric deficit?0 -
You may weigh more by doing weights then if you lose it alone or by cardio, but you will look as small or smaller if you lift. I personally would like my clothing smaller and look slimmer rather than worrying about a number on a scale.
Your trainer would be fired where I live because he is leading you wrong.0
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