Calorie Goal
Ashley_Ann24
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I'll try to make this simple - highest weight was 298. Lowest weight was 156 last December. I lost 98 pounds in 2015. I've gained and stopped doing my calorie count for a year now and I'm at 186 today. I am looking forward to start again. However my 1200 goal of last year took me a year to get to.
I see the app has updated and is recommending I eat 1700 a day. Is this a good start? Work my way back down to 1200 again ? And does the app suggest a different calorie goal when and if I record weight loss ?
I see the app has updated and is recommending I eat 1700 a day. Is this a good start? Work my way back down to 1200 again ? And does the app suggest a different calorie goal when and if I record weight loss ?
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Yes - you get a calorie goal (before exercise) based on "I want to lose xx pounds per week." Your calorie goal will change as you lose weight.
You can check your numbers against a TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) calculator. That gives you maintenance including exercise.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
Just subtract your deficit - for 2 pounds a week take 1000 off, for 1 pound a week take 500 off. Expect to lose no more than 1% of your current weight each week.
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I sincerely do not mean this to be offensive, so I hope you don't take it this way, but it looks like you lost a ton of weight on a crash diet more or less, then gained back 30 lbs within a year's time. I think you really need to work on habit building versus deciding to be "good" for a while so you hit your goal.
So, 1700 calories sounds a lot better to me than 1200, but I also would not target a 2 lb/week loss. With 30 lbs to lose, you should probably be at about 1 lb/wk. The best, healthiest fat loss is as slow as you can tolerate and still stay focused. You will retain more muscle mass, avoid loose skin, and learn better, life-long eating habits.
Also, I second the Scooby's workshop link above as a sanity check, but the MFP Goals wizard thing does essentially the same thing. Just run through the goals every once in a while. It does not automatically update when you log your weight.13 -
GauchoMark wrote: »I sincerely do not mean this to be offensive, so I hope you don't take it this way, but it looks like you lost a ton of weight on a crash diet more or less, then gained back 30 lbs within a year's time. I think you really need to work on habit building versus deciding to be "good" for a while so you hit your goal.
So, 1700 calories sounds a lot better to me than 1200, but I also would not target a 2 lb/week loss. With 30 lbs to lose, you should probably be at about 1 lb/wk. The best, healthiest fat loss is as slow as you can tolerate and still stay focused. You will retain more muscle mass, avoid loose skin, and learn better, life-long eating habits.
Also, I second the Scooby's workshop link above as a sanity check, but the MFP Goals wizard thing does essentially the same thing. Just run through the goals every once in a while. It does not automatically update when you log your weight.
Nope I don't find it offensive. It worked very well for me and would have stayed that way had I stayed on course. I started 2015 at 250. I went down to 156 when I started a relationship. It very slowly creeped back up to 186 and I don't want to ever see 200 again. I don't have much loose skin other than my arms which I have had all my life. I would be okay losing weight slower pace this time if that makes sense just as long as I'm losing and not gaining. My schedule is very different a year ago compared to today. I thank you for your advice1 -
in 2015 you averaged about 1.8 lb/wk. if I were you, run the numbers through Scooby's to make sure you are in the ballpark to target 1 lb/wk. I prefer to set my calories as sedentary and log cardio additionally as I do it - I think that is most accurate.
Stick to that calorie goal (eating back at least 50% of any logged cardio) and see what your actual results for fat loss were. Notice, I'm saying fat loss, not weight loss. Then adjust the calories to either increase or decrease your loss rate. But, try to control it to no more than 1 lb/wk.
I think you'll get better results. I lost ~125 lbs several years ago over about a 2.5 year span. There were many times where I had to slow my loss rate to protect my muscle mass. It's just a lot healthier.1 -
GauchoMark wrote: »in 2015 you averaged about 1.8 lb/wk. if I were you, run the numbers through Scooby's to make sure you are in the ballpark to target 1 lb/wk. I prefer to set my calories as sedentary and log cardio additionally as I do it - I think that is most accurate.
Stick to that calorie goal (eating back at least 50% of any logged cardio) and see what your actual results for fat loss were. Notice, I'm saying fat loss, not weight loss. Then adjust the calories to either increase or decrease your loss rate. But, try to control it to no more than 1 lb/wk.
I think you'll get better results. I lost ~125 lbs several years ago over about a 2.5 year span. There were many times where I had to slow my loss rate to protect my muscle mass. It's just a lot healthier.
Thank you I will look into that and see if I'll even begin to lose any weight at all. When should I expect any weight loss ? When I did this a year ago I did not work out. Weight just came off so easily. And it started two weeks in. I had been shocked I remember that0 -
Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »in 2015 you averaged about 1.8 lb/wk. if I were you, run the numbers through Scooby's to make sure you are in the ballpark to target 1 lb/wk. I prefer to set my calories as sedentary and log cardio additionally as I do it - I think that is most accurate.
Stick to that calorie goal (eating back at least 50% of any logged cardio) and see what your actual results for fat loss were. Notice, I'm saying fat loss, not weight loss. Then adjust the calories to either increase or decrease your loss rate. But, try to control it to no more than 1 lb/wk.
I think you'll get better results. I lost ~125 lbs several years ago over about a 2.5 year span. There were many times where I had to slow my loss rate to protect my muscle mass. It's just a lot healthier.
Thank you I will look into that and see if I'll even begin to lose any weight at all. When should I expect any weight loss ? When I did this a year ago I did not work out. Weight just came off so easily. And it started two weeks in. I had been shocked I remember that
If you are in a caloric deficit, you will begin losing weight immediately. Measuring that weight loss is another story. Weight is a fairly noisy measurement (lots of measurement error), so it is hard to see small losses. The best way to see small changes in noisy measurements is to use a lot of data and use trendlines. Another way is to use a large timeframe so the small change isn't so small.
I personally weigh daily, in the morning, before food and drink, naked. daily. That eliminates quite a bit of error, then using the trendline over a month or so gives me a good idea of the change.
Water weight and other variables can really mess with your mind if you aren't using a large enough timeframe and basing it off good data in the right number of datapoints.
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GauchoMark wrote: »Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »in 2015 you averaged about 1.8 lb/wk. if I were you, run the numbers through Scooby's to make sure you are in the ballpark to target 1 lb/wk. I prefer to set my calories as sedentary and log cardio additionally as I do it - I think that is most accurate.
Stick to that calorie goal (eating back at least 50% of any logged cardio) and see what your actual results for fat loss were. Notice, I'm saying fat loss, not weight loss. Then adjust the calories to either increase or decrease your loss rate. But, try to control it to no more than 1 lb/wk.
I think you'll get better results. I lost ~125 lbs several years ago over about a 2.5 year span. There were many times where I had to slow my loss rate to protect my muscle mass. It's just a lot healthier.
Thank you I will look into that and see if I'll even begin to lose any weight at all. When should I expect any weight loss ? When I did this a year ago I did not work out. Weight just came off so easily. And it started two weeks in. I had been shocked I remember that
If you are in a caloric deficit, you will begin losing weight immediately. Measuring that weight loss is another story. Weight is a fairly noisy measurement (lots of measurement error), so it is hard to see small losses. The best way to see small changes in noisy measurements is to use a lot of data and use trendlines. Another way is to use a large timeframe so the small change isn't so small.
I personally weigh daily, in the morning, before food and drink, naked. daily. That eliminates quite a bit of error, then using the trendline over a month or so gives me a good idea of the change.
Water weight and other variables can really mess with your mind if you aren't using a large enough timeframe and basing it off good data in the right number of datapoints.
Used to do that daily as well. Weighed myself before showering no breakfast yet. And then sometimes would weigh myself at night after work. Just afraid that I won't notice a change in myself or numbers after a week or two like it was a year ago and then I'll get discouraged. Just got to start and stop making excuses. And I say this after eating a dam muffin.0 -
if you use a fitbit aria scale, this site is particularly helpful.
https://trendweight.com/dashboard/
Otherwise, I think you can manually enter your weight and it will do the trend for you, but it is a quick, easy way to look at your progress.1 -
Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »in 2015 you averaged about 1.8 lb/wk. if I were you, run the numbers through Scooby's to make sure you are in the ballpark to target 1 lb/wk. I prefer to set my calories as sedentary and log cardio additionally as I do it - I think that is most accurate.
Stick to that calorie goal (eating back at least 50% of any logged cardio) and see what your actual results for fat loss were. Notice, I'm saying fat loss, not weight loss. Then adjust the calories to either increase or decrease your loss rate. But, try to control it to no more than 1 lb/wk.
I think you'll get better results. I lost ~125 lbs several years ago over about a 2.5 year span. There were many times where I had to slow my loss rate to protect my muscle mass. It's just a lot healthier.
Thank you I will look into that and see if I'll even begin to lose any weight at all. When should I expect any weight loss ? When I did this a year ago I did not work out. Weight just came off so easily. And it started two weeks in. I had been shocked I remember that
If you are in a caloric deficit, you will begin losing weight immediately. Measuring that weight loss is another story. Weight is a fairly noisy measurement (lots of measurement error), so it is hard to see small losses. The best way to see small changes in noisy measurements is to use a lot of data and use trendlines. Another way is to use a large timeframe so the small change isn't so small.
I personally weigh daily, in the morning, before food and drink, naked. daily. That eliminates quite a bit of error, then using the trendline over a month or so gives me a good idea of the change.
Water weight and other variables can really mess with your mind if you aren't using a large enough timeframe and basing it off good data in the right number of datapoints.
Used to do that daily as well. Weighed myself before showering no breakfast yet. And then sometimes would weigh myself at night after work. Just afraid that I won't notice a change in myself or numbers after a week or two like it was a year ago and then I'll get discouraged. Just got to start and stop making excuses. And I say this after eating a dam muffin.
never weigh yourself at night, weight fluctuates hr to hr,day to day. best time is to weight first thing in the am after you use the bathroom and before you shower/eat,either naked or in your underwear3 -
I sound exactly like you, I have lost a lot, regained and now Im on a healthy journey to getting fit. Im losing fat and I dont care so much about the number on the scales anymore. I take pictures and measurements on the last day of every month and thats how I look at my progress.
I weigh 186 lbs, and I was having a 1600 cal diet every day, with no more weight or fat loss until I spoke to a PT in my gym. (I work out 6 times a week) and he recommended that I up my calories. I am 32 years old, 5 foot 1 and 186 lbs and I have now upped my cal intake to 2000 on training days and 1800 on rest days. I have been doing this for a week now and I feel so much better and I look more toned. I previously lost 100lb in a year and its taken me 9 months to lose 18 this time around, but I look better than ever.
Take your time and listen to your body.
I agree with the other posts- get your TDEE and then drop to lost 1lb a week!
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another idea, as you think about targets and goals: What are the maintenance calories for your target weight?
(You may want to reduct that by 10% or so, because peopel who were heavier but have lost weight actually maintain on fewer calories than people the same weight who have never been overweight). Think about that number and what it feels like.
I've been in maintenance mode for awhiel and plan to stay here for the holidays, but my overall plan is to move towards eating the number of calories to maintain my goal weight and seeing how that settles out.1 -
another idea, as you think about targets and goals: What are the maintenance calories for your target weight?
(You may want to reduct that by 10% or so, because peopel who were heavier but have lost weight actually maintain on fewer calories than people the same weight who have never been overweight). Think about that number and what it feels like.
I've been in maintenance mode for awhiel and plan to stay here for the holidays, but my overall plan is to move towards eating the number of calories to maintain my goal weight and seeing how that settles out.
I found it hard already on some things. A year ago every single morning I ate one cup of my cereal and one cup of almond milk with a banana and I was full and enjoyed it. I hadn't realized after I stopped measuring I was eating like three cups of cereal. And now trying to go back to one just looking at it I'm like holy cow I survived and was full off that one cup. Is a totally different perspective. I have managed to cut down to two cups of special k vanilla almond cereal with 1 cup and half of unsweetened almond milk and one banana and so far been good.
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Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »another idea, as you think about targets and goals: What are the maintenance calories for your target weight?
(You may want to reduct that by 10% or so, because peopel who were heavier but have lost weight actually maintain on fewer calories than people the same weight who have never been overweight). Think about that number and what it feels like.
I've been in maintenance mode for awhiel and plan to stay here for the holidays, but my overall plan is to move towards eating the number of calories to maintain my goal weight and seeing how that settles out.
I found it hard already on some things. A year ago every single morning I ate one cup of my cereal and one cup of almond milk with a banana and I was full and enjoyed it. I hadn't realized after I stopped measuring I was eating like three cups of cereal. And now trying to go back to one just looking at it I'm like holy cow I survived and was full off that one cup. Is a totally different perspective. I have managed to cut down to two cups of special k vanilla almond cereal with 1 cup and half of unsweetened almond milk and one banana and so far been good.
Change your breakfast selection. I personally, can't eat cereal. I have to eat way too much of it to fill me up and even then, it only lasts me about an hour or so before I'm hungry. The breakfast you mentioned is almost 100% carbs. You will stay much more satisfied with a more balanced meal - up the protein and fat.1 -
GauchoMark wrote: »Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »another idea, as you think about targets and goals: What are the maintenance calories for your target weight?
(You may want to reduct that by 10% or so, because peopel who were heavier but have lost weight actually maintain on fewer calories than people the same weight who have never been overweight). Think about that number and what it feels like.
I've been in maintenance mode for awhiel and plan to stay here for the holidays, but my overall plan is to move towards eating the number of calories to maintain my goal weight and seeing how that settles out.
I found it hard already on some things. A year ago every single morning I ate one cup of my cereal and one cup of almond milk with a banana and I was full and enjoyed it. I hadn't realized after I stopped measuring I was eating like three cups of cereal. And now trying to go back to one just looking at it I'm like holy cow I survived and was full off that one cup. Is a totally different perspective. I have managed to cut down to two cups of special k vanilla almond cereal with 1 cup and half of unsweetened almond milk and one banana and so far been good.
Change your breakfast selection. I personally, can't eat cereal. I have to eat way too much of it to fill me up and even then, it only lasts me about an hour or so before I'm hungry. The breakfast you mentioned is almost 100% carbs. You will stay much more satisfied with a more balanced meal - up the protein and fat.
Actually, what leaves one satisfied varies from person to person. I can go for hours without being hungry on a carb heavy meal. Find what works for you.1 -
1700 cals sounds good, if you don't restrict yourself too much you will be more likely to be able to be consistent which leads to keeping the weight loss off.1
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Wynterbourne wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »another idea, as you think about targets and goals: What are the maintenance calories for your target weight?
(You may want to reduct that by 10% or so, because peopel who were heavier but have lost weight actually maintain on fewer calories than people the same weight who have never been overweight). Think about that number and what it feels like.
I've been in maintenance mode for awhiel and plan to stay here for the holidays, but my overall plan is to move towards eating the number of calories to maintain my goal weight and seeing how that settles out.
I found it hard already on some things. A year ago every single morning I ate one cup of my cereal and one cup of almond milk with a banana and I was full and enjoyed it. I hadn't realized after I stopped measuring I was eating like three cups of cereal. And now trying to go back to one just looking at it I'm like holy cow I survived and was full off that one cup. Is a totally different perspective. I have managed to cut down to two cups of special k vanilla almond cereal with 1 cup and half of unsweetened almond milk and one banana and so far been good.
Change your breakfast selection. I personally, can't eat cereal. I have to eat way too much of it to fill me up and even then, it only lasts me about an hour or so before I'm hungry. The breakfast you mentioned is almost 100% carbs. You will stay much more satisfied with a more balanced meal - up the protein and fat.
Actually, what leaves one satisfied varies from person to person. I can go for hours without being hungry on a carb heavy meal. Find what works for you.
It is pretty well documented that protein is more satisfying than carbs when comparable energy densities of the foods are compared. A quick google search will support this many times over, but here is a quick article that references several studies that support that - http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/5/1558S.long
Besides... she just said that the cereal is not keeping her full, so carbs are apparently not working...0 -
GauchoMark wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »another idea, as you think about targets and goals: What are the maintenance calories for your target weight?
(You may want to reduct that by 10% or so, because peopel who were heavier but have lost weight actually maintain on fewer calories than people the same weight who have never been overweight). Think about that number and what it feels like.
I've been in maintenance mode for awhiel and plan to stay here for the holidays, but my overall plan is to move towards eating the number of calories to maintain my goal weight and seeing how that settles out.
I found it hard already on some things. A year ago every single morning I ate one cup of my cereal and one cup of almond milk with a banana and I was full and enjoyed it. I hadn't realized after I stopped measuring I was eating like three cups of cereal. And now trying to go back to one just looking at it I'm like holy cow I survived and was full off that one cup. Is a totally different perspective. I have managed to cut down to two cups of special k vanilla almond cereal with 1 cup and half of unsweetened almond milk and one banana and so far been good.
Change your breakfast selection. I personally, can't eat cereal. I have to eat way too much of it to fill me up and even then, it only lasts me about an hour or so before I'm hungry. The breakfast you mentioned is almost 100% carbs. You will stay much more satisfied with a more balanced meal - up the protein and fat.
Actually, what leaves one satisfied varies from person to person. I can go for hours without being hungry on a carb heavy meal. Find what works for you.
It is pretty well documented that protein is more satisfying than carbs when comparable energy densities of the foods are compared. A quick google search will support this many times over, but here is a quick article that references several studies that support that - http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/5/1558S.long
Besides... she just said that the cereal is not keeping her full, so carbs are apparently not working...
So are you saying that because something is well documented that possible exceptions don't exist? Yes, she said it wasn't keeping her full, but you made a statement like it was a hard and fast rule for everyone and other people are reading this. Are you saying that I'm lying when I state that carbs do keep me full? Hallucinating maybe? All I was pointing out is that protein does not satisfy 100% of the people 100% of the time. That's what your statement looked like it was indicating, so I'll say it again, "Everyone is different, find what works for you."1 -
What worked for me was the cereal to be honest. I started losing weight just eating that first. It was crazy I know. I've always been okay with eating same thing every morning. It's odd. It's a routine I like. Cereal milk Banana. It kept me full when I was on a diet. I had one cup of each product. When I went off my diet however I just dumped everything in the bowl until it filled to the top. I didn't care anymore. I realize now a year off my diet I was eating three cups of cereal alone. When I mentioned I was hungry it was because I realized I can't just eat one cup of cereal like I did in the past I know I would be hungry. So I put myself at two cups of cereal and one cup and half of almond milk unsweetened and one banna. So far it's doing great ! Would I rather my bowl filled to the top hell yes !! Lol. But I need to learn to restrict my self better. My schedule is so odd with work that I have to eat lunch at 11am. I eat breakfast at 7:30am. So it's been keeping me full until I feel I should eat again.
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GauchoMark wrote: »Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »another idea, as you think about targets and goals: What are the maintenance calories for your target weight?
(You may want to reduct that by 10% or so, because peopel who were heavier but have lost weight actually maintain on fewer calories than people the same weight who have never been overweight). Think about that number and what it feels like.
I've been in maintenance mode for awhiel and plan to stay here for the holidays, but my overall plan is to move towards eating the number of calories to maintain my goal weight and seeing how that settles out.
I found it hard already on some things. A year ago every single morning I ate one cup of my cereal and one cup of almond milk with a banana and I was full and enjoyed it. I hadn't realized after I stopped measuring I was eating like three cups of cereal. And now trying to go back to one just looking at it I'm like holy cow I survived and was full off that one cup. Is a totally different perspective. I have managed to cut down to two cups of special k vanilla almond cereal with 1 cup and half of unsweetened almond milk and one banana and so far been good.
Change your breakfast selection. I personally, can't eat cereal. I have to eat way too much of it to fill me up and even then, it only lasts me about an hour or so before I'm hungry. The breakfast you mentioned is almost 100% carbs. You will stay much more satisfied with a more balanced meal - up the protein and fat.GauchoMark wrote: »Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »another idea, as you think about targets and goals: What are the maintenance calories for your target weight?
(You may want to reduct that by 10% or so, because peopel who were heavier but have lost weight actually maintain on fewer calories than people the same weight who have never been overweight). Think about that number and what it feels like.
I've been in maintenance mode for awhiel and plan to stay here for the holidays, but my overall plan is to move towards eating the number of calories to maintain my goal weight and seeing how that settles out.
I found it hard already on some things. A year ago every single morning I ate one cup of my cereal and one cup of almond milk with a banana and I was full and enjoyed it. I hadn't realized after I stopped measuring I was eating like three cups of cereal. And now trying to go back to one just looking at it I'm like holy cow I survived and was full off that one cup. Is a totally different perspective. I have managed to cut down to two cups of special k vanilla almond cereal with 1 cup and half of unsweetened almond milk and one banana and so far been good.
Change your breakfast selection. I personally, can't eat cereal. I have to eat way too much of it to fill me up and even then, it only lasts me about an hour or so before I'm hungry. The breakfast you mentioned is almost 100% carbs. You will stay much more satisfied with a more balanced meal - up the protein and fat.
I used to change it up a bit. Like two eggs on wheat toast plain. Or whole wheat waffle with peanut putter. Didn't change much though0 -
What helps me? Smaller bowls. How big are your bowls that you can put three cups in them? Are they wide pasta bowls?
Awhile back I got a bunch of 7-ounce juice glasses - the small size they used to use at breakfast in old restaurants (or that my grandma had). I got a bunch of small custard cups, and I bought the small "Fruit and cereal" bowls that matched my dishes (but didn't come with the set). My wine glasses only hold a 6-ounce pour.
We drink juice and pop from the small glasses, we eat ice cream from the custard cups, we eat cereal from the small bowls. Automatic portion control.
It's interesting looking at 1950s dishes vs. many of today's dish patterns. You can really see how we've resized our ideas of what food should look like on the plate as we resized our ideas of portions.3 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »another idea, as you think about targets and goals: What are the maintenance calories for your target weight?
(You may want to reduct that by 10% or so, because peopel who were heavier but have lost weight actually maintain on fewer calories than people the same weight who have never been overweight). Think about that number and what it feels like.
I've been in maintenance mode for awhiel and plan to stay here for the holidays, but my overall plan is to move towards eating the number of calories to maintain my goal weight and seeing how that settles out.
I found it hard already on some things. A year ago every single morning I ate one cup of my cereal and one cup of almond milk with a banana and I was full and enjoyed it. I hadn't realized after I stopped measuring I was eating like three cups of cereal. And now trying to go back to one just looking at it I'm like holy cow I survived and was full off that one cup. Is a totally different perspective. I have managed to cut down to two cups of special k vanilla almond cereal with 1 cup and half of unsweetened almond milk and one banana and so far been good.
Change your breakfast selection. I personally, can't eat cereal. I have to eat way too much of it to fill me up and even then, it only lasts me about an hour or so before I'm hungry. The breakfast you mentioned is almost 100% carbs. You will stay much more satisfied with a more balanced meal - up the protein and fat.
Actually, what leaves one satisfied varies from person to person. I can go for hours without being hungry on a carb heavy meal. Find what works for you.
It is pretty well documented that protein is more satisfying than carbs when comparable energy densities of the foods are compared. A quick google search will support this many times over, but here is a quick article that references several studies that support that - http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/5/1558S.long
Besides... she just said that the cereal is not keeping her full, so carbs are apparently not working...
So are you saying that because something is well documented that possible exceptions don't exist? Yes, she said it wasn't keeping her full, but you made a statement like it was a hard and fast rule for everyone and other people are reading this. Are you saying that I'm lying when I state that carbs do keep me full? Hallucinating maybe? All I was pointing out is that protein does not satisfy 100% of the people 100% of the time. That's what your statement looked like it was indicating, so I'll say it again, "Everyone is different, find what works for you."
You sound hungry...
but, I apologize - I forgot about a few of the snowflakes around here. I'll leave my science, logic, and references at the door and you continue to eat whatever you want. I am trying to help the OP and don't care what you eat or what random people reading this thread eat. My advice was specific to the OP; as in a conversation.2 -
What helps me? Smaller bowls. How big are your bowls that you can put three cups in them? Are they wide pasta bowls?
Awhile back I got a bunch of 7-ounce juice glasses - the small size they used to use at breakfast in old restaurants (or that my grandma had). I got a bunch of small custard cups, and I bought the small "Fruit and cereal" bowls that matched my dishes (but didn't come with the set). My wine glasses only hold a 6-ounce pour.
We drink juice and pop from the small glasses, we eat ice cream from the custard cups, we eat cereal from the small bowls. Automatic portion control.
It's interesting looking at 1950s dishes vs. many of today's dish patterns. You can really see how we've resized our ideas of what food should look like on the plate as we resized our ideas of portions.
Think your right I eat it in a Perex always had even in the past when it was one cup. I'll try this morning in a normal bowl0 -
GauchoMark wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »Ashley_Ann24 wrote: »another idea, as you think about targets and goals: What are the maintenance calories for your target weight?
(You may want to reduct that by 10% or so, because peopel who were heavier but have lost weight actually maintain on fewer calories than people the same weight who have never been overweight). Think about that number and what it feels like.
I've been in maintenance mode for awhiel and plan to stay here for the holidays, but my overall plan is to move towards eating the number of calories to maintain my goal weight and seeing how that settles out.
I found it hard already on some things. A year ago every single morning I ate one cup of my cereal and one cup of almond milk with a banana and I was full and enjoyed it. I hadn't realized after I stopped measuring I was eating like three cups of cereal. And now trying to go back to one just looking at it I'm like holy cow I survived and was full off that one cup. Is a totally different perspective. I have managed to cut down to two cups of special k vanilla almond cereal with 1 cup and half of unsweetened almond milk and one banana and so far been good.
Change your breakfast selection. I personally, can't eat cereal. I have to eat way too much of it to fill me up and even then, it only lasts me about an hour or so before I'm hungry. The breakfast you mentioned is almost 100% carbs. You will stay much more satisfied with a more balanced meal - up the protein and fat.
Actually, what leaves one satisfied varies from person to person. I can go for hours without being hungry on a carb heavy meal. Find what works for you.
It is pretty well documented that protein is more satisfying than carbs when comparable energy densities of the foods are compared. A quick google search will support this many times over, but here is a quick article that references several studies that support that - http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/5/1558S.long
Besides... she just said that the cereal is not keeping her full, so carbs are apparently not working...
So are you saying that because something is well documented that possible exceptions don't exist? Yes, she said it wasn't keeping her full, but you made a statement like it was a hard and fast rule for everyone and other people are reading this. Are you saying that I'm lying when I state that carbs do keep me full? Hallucinating maybe? All I was pointing out is that protein does not satisfy 100% of the people 100% of the time. That's what your statement looked like it was indicating, so I'll say it again, "Everyone is different, find what works for you."
You sound hungry...
but, I apologize - I forgot about a few of the snowflakes around here. I'll leave my science, logic, and references at the door and you continue to eat whatever you want. I am trying to help the OP and don't care what you eat or what random people reading this thread eat. My advice was specific to the OP; as in a conversation.
I'm not hungry in the least, thank you very much. I'm also not going to waste my time repeating myself for a third time. What you said is the case for some people despite you insisting that it works that way all the time for everybody. If anything, you claiming that actually makes you the one going against the existing logic and science, but I believe that you're the type that could experience the exception for yourself and still deny it. I shared what I needed to regarding being satiated. Good day sir.1
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