Forever clean 9
xWendyJonesx
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Hello, has anyone tried the forever clean 9? I've just ordered a pack, I need to kick start my weight loss journey, I'm interested to hear how you got on with it, any tips.
I have a stone and a half to loose to get back to my goal weight, I've tried so many times to get back on track, but I keep falling off the wagon, I hope to loose a few lbs over the 9 days to give me the incentive to carry on.
I have a stone and a half to loose to get back to my goal weight, I've tried so many times to get back on track, but I keep falling off the wagon, I hope to loose a few lbs over the 9 days to give me the incentive to carry on.
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There is no need to "kick start" weight loss. All that is needed for weightloss is a calorie deficit.
Most of the weight you will lose in those 9 days will be water weight and will come right back once you start eating normally again.
Set a modest goal (.5 lbs a week since you only have 20 or so lbs to lose)and stick to that calorie deficit.26 -
There is no need to "kick start" weight loss. All that is needed for weightloss is a calorie deficit.
Most of the weight you will lose in those 9 days will be water weight and will come right back once you start eating normally again.
Set a modest goal (.5 lbs a week since you only have 20 or so lbs to lose)and stick to that calorie deficit.
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I've tried setting my goal at loosing just 0.5lbs a week but I haven't managed to stick to it, I'm hoping by loosing a few lbs in just 9 days will give me an incentive to carry on and not spoil the had work.
I know I had to reduce my portion size and increase my exercise, I just need to get my head in gear and get into a routine.0 -
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All you might lose in 9 days with a gimmick is water, (and money, but since you already ordered it, the money is already gone).
The trouble is, the water will come right back on. If that will make you feel like you've "ruined" your "progress" you may go off the rails entirely. You want to do this forever 9 business, no one will stop you. But - easy come easy go. Whatever you lose in that nine days, be prepared to see right back on the scale a few days later.12 -
I've tried setting my goal at loosing just 0.5lbs a week but I haven't managed to stick to it, I'm hoping by loosing a few lbs in just 9 days will give me an incentive to carry on and not spoil the had work.
I know I had to reduce my portion size and increase my exercise, I just need to get my head in gear and get into a routine.
If you can't stick to a mild deficit, what makes you think you will be able to stick to that program? How can you be sure you can stick to a deficit once the program is over?8 -
I've tried setting my goal at loosing just 0.5lbs a week but I haven't managed to stick to it, I'm hoping by loosing a few lbs in just 9 days will give me an incentive to carry on and not spoil the had work.
I know I had to reduce my portion size and increase my exercise, I just need to get my head in gear and get into a routine.
If you can't stick to a mild deficit, what makes you think you will be able to stick to that program? How can you be sure you can stick to a deficit once the program is over?
I've lost the weight before and I did it the right way, portion control and exercise, I just need to get back on the right track an do it again.0 -
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Here is what looks to me to be a decent review: https://authoritynutrition.com/clean-9-detox-diet-review/
I used to be a fan of "kickstarts", not so much anymore. I have to have a fairly clear plate to endure it, and that doesn't happen often enough. Leaves me waiting too long to get started when I can aim for a small deficit at any point in my life.
You've bought it already so I won't try to dissuade you from using it, but just keep in mind that it's DIFFICULT, and that if you can't sustain it, you haven't failed. Just jump back onto MFP with a small deficit. I know that you said that you've tried and failed at 0.5lbs/wk. It's worth examining why, because after those 9 days, you should be heading right back to slow and steady.
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goldthistime wrote: »Here is what looks to me to be a decent review: https://authoritynutrition.com/clean-9-detox-diet-review/
I used to be a fan of "kickstarts", not so much anymore. I have to have a fairly clear plate to endure it, and that doesn't happen often enough. Leaves me waiting too long to get started when I can aim for a small deficit at any point in my life.
You've bought it already so I won't try to dissuade you from using it, but just keep in mind that it's DIFFICULT, and that if you can't sustain it, you haven't failed. Just jump back onto MFP with a small deficit. I know that you said that you've tried and failed at 0.5lbs/wk. It's worth examining why, because after those 9 days, you should be heading right back to slow and steady.
Good luck, regardless of how you proceed.
Thank you for adding the informative link, maybe I shouldn't have jumped in and purchased the kit so quickly. I am going to do as I've purchased it now, I'm hoping by eating so little over the 9 days it will help me with portion control as that is one of my biggest problem, I eat the right things just too much of it, also if it gives me more energy I'm hoping that'll encourage me to get back to the gym.2 -
People are trying to tell you that that isn't how it works. Eating too little for nine days will make you tired and lethargic, hungry and intensify cravings. Portion control is something you do, not something that just happens when the moon and stars are properly aligned.xWendyJonesx wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Here is what looks to me to be a decent review: https://authoritynutrition.com/clean-9-detox-diet-review/
I used to be a fan of "kickstarts", not so much anymore. I have to have a fairly clear plate to endure it, and that doesn't happen often enough. Leaves me waiting too long to get started when I can aim for a small deficit at any point in my life.
You've bought it already so I won't try to dissuade you from using it, but just keep in mind that it's DIFFICULT, and that if you can't sustain it, you haven't failed. Just jump back onto MFP with a small deficit. I know that you said that you've tried and failed at 0.5lbs/wk. It's worth examining why, because after those 9 days, you should be heading right back to slow and steady.
Good luck, regardless of how you proceed.
Thank you for adding the informative link, maybe I shouldn't have jumped in and purchased the kit so quickly. I am going to do as I've purchased it now, I'm hoping by eating so little over the 9 days it will help me with portion control as that is one of my biggest problem, I eat the right things just too much of it, also if it gives me more energy I'm hoping that'll encourage me to get back to the gym.
If you can't return it, at least learn from it. Personally I would just throw it in the garbage.
What are the right things? If you really eat the right things, you won't tend to overeat. You will still have to exert portion control, but it's easier when you feel in control and not deprived. Nine days is nothing. What you can do for nine days means nothing in the long run, but what those nine days do to you, will have impact. Why do you want to make yourself suffer?
You know that the self-imposed deprivation-binge cycles (aka yo-yo-dieting) that creates frustration and desperation, is what makes these companies so successful? Not magic ingredients?10 -
OP
If you are short term determined but fall off the wagon with routine then maybe something other than everyday calorie restriction may suit you better?
5:2 worked well for me as really it's just dieting one day at a time. Or alternatively just think of your calorie allowance over a week rather than every damn day being the same boring restriction....3 -
It's just another VLCD meal replacement thing. I know a few people who have done this and I don't get the hype about "having more energy" that they all say, but then again that could be just the high you get from being on a strict diet and seeing water weight come off quickly in the beginning, rather than any magical properties of aloe vera juice.
Someone I know started selling the Forever stuff last year so my facebook page was full of evangelical posts from her and the people who she'd sold the clean 9 to, who on average all lost about 7-9lbs in the 9 days. I had a bad kidney infection around the same time and lost 8lbs in 7 days because I felt too ill to eat. Same result...5 -
Wow that is an expensive 9 days! Even the title seems to be at odds with itself. Do this for nine days and you are clean forever? I have tried things like this before and I know it wouldn't be for me. Please come back in a month and let us know if, 1. You lasted the nine days. 2. You weigh less than you do today.3
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Therealobi1 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »"If you can't stick to a mild deficit, what makes you think you will be able to stick to that program?"
Seems a simple straightforward neutral question to me.
Sounds like it is open to interpretation
Like most things
It is a question op and loads of people need to consider
Also when planning consider life after losing weight this really needs thought
What the "if you can't stick to a mild deficit, what makes you think you will be able to stick to that program?" doesn't address is that there is no one size fits all approach to weight loss. Just because someone is unsuccessful sticking to a calorie deficit when they try the "eat whatever you want, just less of it" approach doesn't mean they wouldn't be successful with a structured plan where things are laid out for them. To imply that they are potentially going to fail at all attempts at weight loss because one particular strategy to get into a deficit doesn't work for them is incorrect.
As for life after losing weight, before the "are they going to follow the plan forever" argument is raised, let's think about the same approach being used for exercise. Some people can just come up with their own approach to exercise and kill it, others need resources like personal training sessions, group workout classes or programs, or even apps (stronglifts, C25K, for example) guiding them along the way. Does anyone ever ask someone following a weight lifting program or C25K "are you really going to follow that forever?" Of course not, because we know that eventually the person will have gotten all they value they can out of the program and moved on to something else, utilizing what they learned from their time with the program. Or maybe they will find that they really need that resource to keep them on track, and stick with it. I don't think anyone would ever question someone choosing to use a personal trainer if that keeps them on track for their goals, so why isn't the same thought process applied to eating plans?
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I agree with there is different ways to skin a cat, but buying a 100 pound for a nine day course which doesnt even fill your belly in my opinion is not one of them. But hey each to their own.Therealobi1 wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »"If you can't stick to a mild deficit, what makes you think you will be able to stick to that program?"
Seems a simple straightforward neutral question to me.
Sounds like it is open to interpretation
Like most things
It is a question op and loads of people need to consider
Also when planning consider life after losing weight this really needs thought
What the "if you can't stick to a mild deficit, what makes you think you will be able to stick to that program?" doesn't address is that there is no one size fits all approach to weight loss. Just because someone is unsuccessful sticking to a calorie deficit when they try the "eat whatever you want, just less of it" approach doesn't mean they wouldn't be successful with a structured plan where things are laid out for them. To imply that they are potentially going to fail at all attempts at weight loss because one particular strategy to get into a deficit doesn't work for them is incorrect.
As for life after losing weight, before the "are they going to follow the plan forever" argument is raised, let's think about the same approach being used for exercise. Some people can just come up with their own approach to exercise and kill it, others need resources like personal training sessions, group workout classes or programs, or even apps (stronglifts, C25K, for example) guiding them along the way. Does anyone ever ask someone following a weight lifting program or C25K "are you really going to follow that forever?" Of course not, because we know that eventually the person will have gotten all they value they can out of the program and moved on to something else, utilizing what they learned from their time with the program. Or maybe they will find that they really need that resource to keep them on track, and stick with it. I don't think anyone would ever question someone choosing to use a personal trainer if that keeps them on track for their goals, so why isn't the same thought process applied to eating plans?
my second point has nothing to do with that tired line about will you be able to follow that plan forever. It is simply about thinking about life after losing weight. as you must have seen loads of people come back after putting it back on and thats in my oppinion because there was never a plan to keep the weight off. Once you lose the weight you have to think about keeping it off.0 -
xWendyJonesx wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Here is what looks to me to be a decent review: https://authoritynutrition.com/clean-9-detox-diet-review/
I used to be a fan of "kickstarts", not so much anymore. I have to have a fairly clear plate to endure it, and that doesn't happen often enough. Leaves me waiting too long to get started when I can aim for a small deficit at any point in my life.
You've bought it already so I won't try to dissuade you from using it, but just keep in mind that it's DIFFICULT, and that if you can't sustain it, you haven't failed. Just jump back onto MFP with a small deficit. I know that you said that you've tried and failed at 0.5lbs/wk. It's worth examining why, because after those 9 days, you should be heading right back to slow and steady.
Good luck, regardless of how you proceed.
Thank you for adding the informative link, maybe I shouldn't have jumped in and purchased the kit so quickly. I am going to do as I've purchased it now, I'm hoping by eating so little over the 9 days it will help me with portion control as that is one of my biggest problem, I eat the right things just too much of it, also if it gives me more energy I'm hoping that'll encourage me to get back to the gym.
I have not tried the product you are asking about, but I know how easy it is to jump in a buy something on a whim because I needed a kick start to my weight loss. Many years ago, probably before you were born, it was Slim Fast, Dexatrim, Ayds, and probably many other products I've forgotten about. What I learned is that NONE of those products work by themselves,, they are just money grabbers while you are learning to eat at a calorie deficit.
The only requirement to lose weight is to eat less than you burn, and you can do that for 100% free. It's so easy.
Can you return the unused portion of that product?
Also, there is not eating the right or wrong things for weight loss, there is just eating the foods you love in moderation. For me, as long as I've reasonably met my protein and fat goals within my calorie goal by having my meat, veggies, yogurt, etc., then I am just find having some ice cream or other sweet. It has worked wonders for me to learn how to moderate all food!
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Kgeyser I get that different approaches work for different people - but I think "if you can't stick to a mild deficit, what makes you think you will be able to stick to that program?" asked in the straightforward neutral way it was, is a good question.
If OP comes back and says she thinks she will be able to do so because money spent gives her an incentive to continue, or line in the sand helps her change habits or she has x plan for afterwards or whatever - then, fine.
But before embarking on a program, especially one which will cost big money, it is worth considering what about it will work for you in the long run and therefore whether it really is viable or worth it for you or not.2 -
xWendyJonesx wrote: »I'm hoping by eating so little over the 9 days it will help me with portion control as that is one of my biggest problem, I eat the right things just too much of it, also if it gives me more energy I'm hoping that'll encourage me to get back to the gym.
Here's the problem: replacing your normal food with the stuff they provide for the program isn't teaching you portion control with normal foods, making better choices, or how to track and choose foods within a calorie budget. It's teaching you how to use their products for nine days.
I hope it helps, but you really need to plan for what you're going to do differently once you're done with the 9 days.3 -
I just looked at the price and $100??! You must be dedicated. I hope it works for you and that you didn't waste your money. You could've bought a lot of healthy groceries with that $100.6
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It's not even January 1st and it has already begun.9
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roamingtiger wrote: »I just looked at the price and $100??! You must be dedicated. I hope it works for you and that you didn't waste your money. You could've bought a lot of healthy groceries with that $100.
I upgraded my food scale yesterday and my new one was $14- and I'll use it for a lot longer than 9 days
OP-the weight loss phase will last for few months/few years, and then after that you need to figure out how you're going to maintain the loss for the next 20, 30, 40+ years. 9 days isn't even a blimp on the radar in the scheme of things. Start focusing on the long term and learn how to do this whole thing in a realistic and sustainable way.1 -
Eating less and moving more are the two key elements at the heart of weight loss and fitness, regardless of whatever "plan" anyone may be on.Apologies if I assumed the question was negative..not everyone has a full plan though. I remember I thought I just had to eat less, go the gym and wait to look like the Rock...halfway through I had amend my plan as you can imagine
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Why would you want a stone loose?0
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I dont want to be a debbie downer OP, but because this is a very low calorie diet, just beware of possible binges, because you will no doubt be very hungry during the 9 days, and one or two high calorie days could possible wipe out any deficit you have created.3
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myheartsabattleground wrote: »Why would you want a stone loose?
I know...losing a diamond is NOT fun.
I honestly thought the same. Personally, if I had trouble keeping to deficit, a VLCD would actually cause me to binge-out even more.Christine_72 wrote: »I dont want to be a debbie downer OP, but because this is a very low calorie diet, just beware of possible binges, because you will no doubt be very hungry during the 9 days, and one or two high calorie days could possible wipe out any deficit you have created.
OP....start off just by eating (not at a deficit). Log your normal day, then gradually start cutting down/back on the calories until you're at maintenance, then take it even slower to slip into a 100 calorie deficit, then 150, then 200, then 250. You'll get there. I worry that a vlcd will all be for nothing and cause you to go on an all-out binge fest.
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xWendyJonesx wrote: »goldthistime wrote: »Here is what looks to me to be a decent review: https://authoritynutrition.com/clean-9-detox-diet-review/
I used to be a fan of "kickstarts", not so much anymore. I have to have a fairly clear plate to endure it, and that doesn't happen often enough. Leaves me waiting too long to get started when I can aim for a small deficit at any point in my life.
You've bought it already so I won't try to dissuade you from using it, but just keep in mind that it's DIFFICULT, and that if you can't sustain it, you haven't failed. Just jump back onto MFP with a small deficit. I know that you said that you've tried and failed at 0.5lbs/wk. It's worth examining why, because after those 9 days, you should be heading right back to slow and steady.
Good luck, regardless of how you proceed.
Thank you for adding the informative link, maybe I shouldn't have jumped in and purchased the kit so quickly. I am going to do as I've purchased it now, I'm hoping by eating so little over the 9 days it will help me with portion control as that is one of my biggest problem, I eat the right things just too much of it, also if it gives me more energy I'm hoping that'll encourage me to get back to the gym.
OP...give it a try and if it doesn't work for you then you don't have to complete the 9 days.
My advice...while you are trying this start working on a plan for afterwards so that you can continue to lose or maintain.
I wish you well.
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roamingtiger wrote: »I just looked at the price and $100??! You must be dedicated. I hope it works for you and that you didn't waste your money. You could've bought a lot of healthy groceries with that $100.
This is an excellent point, of being able to buy groceries with the hundred. Here, where I live, we have a wonderful farmer's produce store, open every day, where I buy the bulk of my produce, and it's reasonably priced. I can leave the store with three bags stuffed with my fruits and veggies for under $25. The rest of the money can be spread out over the next few weeks to buy milk, eggs, yogurt, cottage cheese, and meat.1
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