Judgemental people on MFP

I clicked through a few of her videos and she doesn't allow comments on any of them, which tells me that the woman is fully aware of a) what she looks like, b) her poor choices when it comes to food, and c) what people think of her. NO comments allowed = she's either in denial or flat out doesn't care.

I think it's strange that some people seem to think that fat people don't judge other fat people. I'm fat and I totally judge other fat people. Hypocritical? Yes. Human nature? Yes. Am I trying to do something about it? Yes.

I clicked through a few of her videos and she doesn't allow comments on any of them, which tells me that the woman is fully aware of a) what she looks like, b) her poor choices when it comes to food, and c) what people think of her. NO comments allowed = she's either in denial or flat out doesn't care.

I think it's strange that some people seem to think that fat people don't judge other fat people. I'm fat and I totally judge other fat people. Hypocritical? Yes. Human nature? Yes. Am I trying to do something about it? Yes.

I agree. When I was overweight I tended to be more judgmental because I was very self-conscious and noticed in others what I didn't like about my own body. Everyone judges, it's simply a comparison of yourself to another person. I think you can objectively look at that video and say that salad is very high in calories, the woman is morbidly obese, and you can hear her breathing heavily on the video. Whatever you do with that information is your own business. I didn't say anything on MFP, but I had my own judgments and thoughts about it.

Wish there was a like button on here.

I think there's a lot of people (myself included) that watching that video made sad for the woman because she clearly doesn't care about the dangerous condition she's in (having someone film her, putting notations of exactly how many calories is in the entire bowl, and disabling comments on youtube means she knows the reaction it's going to get out of people)... It's obvious she was really struggling and as people trying so hard to make an effort to change their lives, some people might be angered by this blatant disregard of healthfulness that she's displaying... That's why I think some people were quick to judge on that thread. I'm not justifying some of the things that people said that were downright mean, just trying to give logical reason why people would say such things...

The internet's anonymity brings out the worst in otherwise good-natured people, especially if they're steered in that direction. I think the thread was posted harmlessly intentended as a shock to MFP users to have a look at where they might have come from and it spiraled out of control... But that's me trying to see the good intentions of people, falliable as they are.

Theres a big big difference between someone morbidly obese whos actually trying to make positive lifestyle changes and helping themselves, and someone morbidly obese posting a video of themselves making something so disgustingly fatty and sugary that it would make most people vomit. A big difference.

A lot of people here get their diets HEAVILY criticised. To their face. Its not uncommon. A lot of people here get comments that their BMI is low, theyre going to be repulsive to men. I actually very rarely see any criticisms of people who are overweight, and quite right too.
On the other hand, you put yourself out there on a youtube video like this, and you are ASKING for peoples opinions. Not all are going to be nice. Its not some utopia we live in. There are also gonna be people out there who think she looks amazing. After all, isnt there that chick who gets paid for people to watch her eat online. Theres a huge market for BBW porn etc, whatever floats your boat. There are also gonna be people that think it doesnt look nice, and shock horror, there are going to be people that make fun to a certain extent.
If me, or anyone else was following her round the internet, or approaching her in public to tell her what i thought of how she looked, then that would be really bad and out of order, but to comment on someone - IN JEST, whos not even here, and chances are shes not going to see it. Its a pretty minor crime in the grand scheme of things. Ive read some pretty mean comments on here by people many many times about people they consider too thin. I read it ALL THE TIME, and yes i notice, because a lot of the things they say are repulsive, are things i have, and things i dont actually like about my body, whereas noone would say to an overweight person, well you need to lose a bit more, your BMI is a bit repulsive etc. In actual fact i think people are VERY sensitive towards overweight people. Maybe thats why the vast majority of people are so complacent about their weight, even when its got into the heart attack/diabetes/stroke waiting to happen stage.

exactly.

I like that everyone seems to have skipped over the fact that, yes, the salad as a WHOLE is 6850 calories, but it's also like a potluck size salad. That doesn't change the fact that there's still going to be a lot of calories in one serving, but, STILL.

I was going to say the exact same thing!! Basically, I should think we all have our own gardens to tend rather than start snooping in our neighbors' yards.

lol LOVE that quote!

Just read most of the comments on that thread and none of them seem to be rude or mean...

I'd love to recruit her to MFP!! I don't think that's mean -- I just want her to be healthier because in her videos she seems so sweet! (And she can cook some good stuff!!!)

The macaroni was overcooked.

I refused to even read the thread. There are some really wonderful people here. And there are a few real gits, people who seem to be missing that tact and sensitivity chip. People who seem to feel better about themselves when they're knocking others down. People who should know better than to attack others for size--especially here, you know?

Next time you see a thread like that, just walk on by. Let the meanies have their feeding frenzy and stick to the friendlier places.

Kris

I like this post!

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everyone needs to get off their high horse, acting like every person they've thought nothing but happy thoughts about every person they've come across in their life.

Sure, I think nasty stuff about people sometimes. We're all human, we all do it. But we DON'T all talk about it in such a public manner that that person could find it or hear it. That's the issue.

Youtube is a public site.. she PUT herself in the public eye. No one says that we shouldn't criticize Antoine Dodson or "David Goes to Dentist" or whatever overnight celebrities are out there.. it's okay when it's funny but it's not okay to talk about it when there's a problem that someone has?!

OK .. Yes some of the comments on that post were mean to say and out of order and could have been phrased differently to not hurt people but I'm going to say this .. facts are facts. We're all adults. We need to grow up and accept the truth. Yes she is MORBIDLY obese and yes it's NOT ok to let yourself be that way. Some of you should stop reading now if you can't handle this...

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO BE A FUNCTIONAL MEMBER OF SOCIETY AT THAT STAGE IN THEIR HEALTH. Go ahead judge me for saying this. (That's right.. you're judging. You're human.) But let's face it.. we are all here because we realize that. Whether you want to say it out loud or not. I have been judged for being tiny. I am not underweight.. the general public has just gotten fatter.. the more fat you have on your body, the more sluggish you become to the point that you cannot even open a bag of carrots without huffing and puffing?! It doesn't only hurt you, it hurts everyone around you - your family, friends, society.. etc. While medical society could be working on finding a cure for cancer, they are working on finding a cure for obese people to eat less - something one could easily do themselves. Your family and friends will feel bad for you, instead of seeing the real joy of being around you. What do you think she does for a living.. cooks? Sits at home collecting disability? One day she will. One day she'll be living off of OUR tax dollars. What do you think her function was in life? Do you think she really is enjoying life to the fullest?

OK no I have never been overweight so maybe I am not sensitive in that regard.. but I am not overweight because I have never let myself get to that point. Maybe I feel I can say this because I have never gotten there, and because well lets face it I have a big mouth (Yeah I said it.. whatever.) because when I see something wrong I can't help myself soo...

Kudos for everyone that has come to MFP for help in making sure they can take control of their lives. We have seen the light and are working on bettering ourselves but maybe it's time for someone to let HER know that what she has done to herself is not safe and is NOT ok. A macaroni salad like that can and never will be considered healthy. It's 6,800 calories of mostly processed food. While some may say it's an innocent meal or even a meal for multiple people, its glutony, disgusting, and the door to sooo many more issues. It's a clear disrespect for your own self.

I really hope she IS a member of MFP and finds this post. As a matter of fact.. I don't mind if someone prints this out and sends it to her because it's something that she needs to hear.

Thank you for your post. I believe it will help about 5% of the people who posted mean, negative posts, a chance to reflect a bit deeper on this journey. Why did they have that as their first reaction? What happened to them growing up that would make writing those words acceptable? I need to focus my energy on my goal and being positive. Again, thank you for your honest, thoughtful post.

The macaroni was overcooked.

I love you Heather.

I think people are forgetting that this woman wasn't an innocent mfp member, she is a woman making a spectacle of herself on the internet. Dyou think people watch her videos for those lovely wholesome recipes? or because it's a fat lady making incredibly disgusting fatty food? You have the right to judge anyone that posts videos on youtube, that's what they're there for. It's like saying you can't judge models or tv stars because it might hurt their feelings - I think people are being more harsh about the poeple judging that woman, than the people were that judged the woman in the first place!