Migraines and Running (or overheating)
kellybea73
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I am a runner and would love to be able to run year round, but I can't. I have learned if it is 65 or higher outside I will start getting a migraine around mile 4. I drink lots of water, take a pill full of electrolytes and I run 4/walk 1 to let myself cool down some. Anyone have any advice for me?
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Are you seeing a neurologist for your migraines? That would be my number 1 recommendation. There's a ton of pseudoscience surrounding migraines-- a neuro will be able to help you sort out strategies that are really going to help and not just waste your time/money. Since I started seeing mine my migraines are down from 17 per month to about 8, which is huge for me.4
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ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »Are you seeing a neurologist for your migraines? That would be my number 1 recommendation. There's a ton of pseudoscience surrounding migraines-- a neuro will be able to help you sort out strategies that are really going to help and not just waste your time/money. Since I started seeing mine my migraines are down from 17 per month to about 8, which is huge for me.
I concur with this. Migraines are tricky.1 -
i would also double check on your blood pressure. i know when mine goes up, migraine-like headache... not full blown as i can get it to go away a lot faster than a regular migraine, but almost all the same symptoms1
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I used to feel like this often when I was at my heaviest and was starting to workout. I actually had to deny going to Zumba classes or any other sort of class with a gf of mine, who asked all the time, and avoided doing anything super intense because I'd get so overheated and would feel ill and get headaches. Sometimes it would take a couple days to recover!! I did have high blood pressure issues during that time because of being overweight and unhealthy. Anywho... I just did what I could and kept to activities I could handle like walking, kayaking, softball, interval training on the treadmill (just taking breaks when I needed to and keeping to walking/jogging), anything that was moving my body but not overly intense. Once I started loosing some weight and my eating was healthier then I started to notice I could do more for longer or at higher intensities. Now I feel much better and feel like I can do a 'regular' workout like everyone else. I still get a little ill if I push it too much but I'm better at knowing my body now and when to stop or slow down. I've lost 35lbs and look the best I have in YEARS with this process. Honestly, I found eating was/is about 90% of my weight loss process, and working out the other 10%. If exercise is too much for you right now focus on eating 3 (or 6 if you prefer) meals a day that are of high-quality (i.e. full of nutrients and limited processing) and drinking lots of water/tea. Track your meals and go from there as you start to feel better. Oh, I should also mention I went to my doctor and made sure everything was okay too. Just to be safe0
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Running also triggers my migraines. I have them chronically so it's not just running. About 30 mins prior to a run I will pop 800mgs of Ibuprofen. Usually stops it dead in it's tracks.2
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Thankfully mine are only triggered by weather changes, and I usually only get 4-6 per day. That being said, I got to my doctor often to make sure things are going well. If I had it more frequently or something directly was causing it I could fix, I would see a neurologist.
Good luck, hope you can find a solution!0 -
It could also be a migraine related to excerise induced asthma. Which is a real thing people. So when ot warms where you are at and you work out... you could be reacting to something.
Also what is your calorie consumption before? If I remember correctly we each only have around 60 min tops of glucose on hand for energy. When that is running low or goes away the body will try to make you stop.
In the military we were taught to control our breat for around 30 sec to drop our blood pressure.
But if you always have it go see a Dr. It could be simple, to a medication or heart/lung issues... who knows. But knowing is better than not.
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kellybea73 wrote: »I am a runner and would love to be able to run year round, but I can't. I have learned if it is 65 or higher outside I will start getting a migraine around mile 4. I drink lots of water, take a pill full of electrolytes and I run 4/walk 1 to let myself cool down some. Anyone have any advice for me?
This struck me as it is something that has happened to me several times. I get migraines and I have found some relief with Botox but still get them enough to put me under. One of my triggers is the dehydration from long runs. I've tried several different forms of gels and snacks and well, you name it. I found that some of these actually triggered a migraine. I noticed that you said that you take a pill full of electrolytes. #1 Could this be triggering a migraine? #2. Have you considered trying a different form such as GU Roctane or GU or HoneyStinger 15 minutes before a run? #3. You mentioned your water intake. I always think I'm drinking a ton of water myself. I recently had a sweat test and realized how much water I actually need to be drinking for and during my runs. Are you drinking at least every 15 minutes during your run? It could be a deficiency not only in water but electrolytes. Perhaps drinking a sports drink such as tailwind or other speciality running store mixes might be considered. I use ordinary Gatorade because it's cheap and I utilize GU Roctane.1 -
I concur with seeing a neurologist, preferably a headache specialist. I have exercise induced migraines (on top of chronic migraine with other triggers) and getting on a good migraine protocol has helped tremendously.
I still can't run in extreme heat and have settled for running on a treadmill indoors.
I also have to refrain from lifting weights when I'm towards the end of my botox cycle. Automatic trigger for me. Even more strenuous body weight exercises induce them.2 -
I have the same thing!!! Only I can't really jog fast, but if i do interval jogging or walking in warm weather the migraines rain down a hell like no other >.< I usually end up in the ER as I'm a high risk for bloodclots.
I'm currently seeing a neurologist, have been for a good 2 years now and so far we've figured I have a few triggers with my migraines. I kept a diary of every migraine I had, how it started, what i had done and when it ended, and I also used my MFP food dairy. We found a bunch of things that were triggers for me. Light is one of them. If i don't wear sunglasses i will get a migraine. Smells like vinegar, some purfumes (mainly floral) and some foods trigger it too and also how hot it is outside. If it's warm and I work out i also tend to get them and if I don't eat before working out too.
Might be worth seeing a neurologist just to see all your triggers and also to see if any of the medications work to prevent or help the symptoms, so you can still go running when it's warm. I've gone off them all since finding my triggers I'm happy avoiding those things if it means not being on so many medication that i don't really need. I now go jogging early in the morning or late at night and if it's still too warm, I try to lift weights at home or cycle instead. Been medication free since rejoining MFP.
All the best! Migraines are a hell i hope many don't ever have to suffer and for those of us who do, I hope you find a way to avoid them0 -
change schedule to run at night or early before it heats up.1
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As a migraine sufferer myself, I'm assuming you know what a migraine is. It's caused by restricted blood flow to the brain and narrowing of blood vessels. It concerns me that you say when you're running, you tend to get these migraines. Hormonal imbalances is one thing to trigger a migraine, but assertion and getting a migraine is another. The only time I ever got a migraine from assertIon was when I was push mowing a yard in 100 degree heat and I was upset with my brother for not helping our mom......it felt like a heat stroke as well.
I really hope you see a doctor and then update us on the results. Best wishes to you.1 -
Ditto the suggestions for medical consult. Personal antecdote: as a former long distance runner I often battled headaches/migraines after long/hot runs (60+ minutes). After much experimentation, I found that a LOT of electrolyte supplementation resolved my issue: drinking cytomax during run PLUS swallowing electrolyte pill every 20 minutes during run PLUS continuing to take electrolyte pills for several hours after completion of run... and of course monitoring urine volume/color along the way. My doc ran blood tests to check electrolyte levels (but never under post-run conditions), everything always showed "normal range"0
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Could be not being hydrated enough, sinus problems to tension headaches. Obviously you're going to have to see a DR.0
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almostsuperpowered wrote: »ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »Are you seeing a neurologist for your migraines? That would be my number 1 recommendation. There's a ton of pseudoscience surrounding migraines-- a neuro will be able to help you sort out strategies that are really going to help and not just waste your time/money. Since I started seeing mine my migraines are down from 17 per month to about 8, which is huge for me.
I concur with this. Migraines are tricky.
The headache specialist really helped with mine. There are neurologists who focus on migraine and headache issues. It's well worth finding and seeing one, in my opinion.
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Sounds odd but try to put pepper mint oil on your head before you try running again I also find taken 400mg of magnesium before bed really seems to be helping along with fish oil 1000mg after meals try it for a month or two.0
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kellybea73 wrote: »I am a runner and would love to be able to run year round, but I can't. I have learned if it is 65 or higher outside I will start getting a migraine around mile 4. I drink lots of water, take a pill full of electrolytes and I run 4/walk 1 to let myself cool down some. Anyone have any advice for me?
I get migraines from the heat as well, and Im not even working out when it happens. I should move out of texas but until I win the lottery....
I agree with many others, seeing a doctor will help of course. I just wanted to add to that: if you do see a doctor or specialist; dont get discouraged. Headaches and migraines are still somewhat of a mystery to the medical world so you can become overwhelmed with the lack of answers : infinite causations. Just know you wont walk out with a clear cause:affect:solution:cure in one doctors visit.
It might help you to start tracking all your headaches and migraines. There are multiple apps you can download to help track when/duration/triggers/etc. This will also help once you go to a doctor since they will most likely ask you to chart your migraines anyway, so it might expedite things for you.
Different people have different triggers, so good luck. Also, can you run indoors during the summer? Or perhaps change up your workout completely? Swim laps instead?0 -
Talk to a doctor. Keep track of things.
Run indoors when it is warmer?
I am trying to sort out my migraines that have increased in the last couple of months. Starting with my doctor and using the migraine buddy app.
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DietVanillaCoke wrote: »I have the same thing...interval jogging or walking in warm weather the migraines rain down a hell like no other >.<
... We found a bunch of things that were triggers for me. Light is one of them. If i don't wear sunglasses i will get a migraine. Smells like vinegar, some purfumes (mainly floral) and some foods trigger it too and also how hot it is outside. If it's warm and I work out i also tend to get them and if I don't eat before...
For this, and the OP- you might want to explore mast cell activation disorders, or for the OP, even histamine intolerance.
MCAD is where mast cells can be triggered to release their contents when they usually wouldn’t. Common triggers can be foods, heat or cold, chemicals( including scents), exercise, or even low blood sugar.
Migraines are one of the symptoms that can be caused by the triggers. Sometimes, the triggers cause smaller effects so you only get symptoms when 2 or more combine- like exercise plus heat, or low blood sugar plus exercise.
The problem- one variety of this disorder- mastocytosis- is the one mainly known by doctors. The other types of mast cell disorders that are NOT mastocytosis are so new ( less than 5 years of even having ANY testing protocols) that most doctors do not know they exist, or if they do, they are ignorant of the actual range of symptoms( like migraines without hives or anaphylaxis) or of what is the proper testing, or both.
It might be worth exploring, though, to see if there might be some help. Most up to date info tends to come out of support groups as most medical sites are years behind in terms of accurate info. Facebook has a few good support groups.0
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