Binge eating
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My hubby likes junk food, too. I labelled all of his 'goodies' with a big "J" (his initial) -- just to remind me that it's "his stuff". It seems kind of stupid, when I write that down, but it does make me pause. Luckily, my husband's addictions are a brand of peanut butter that I don't like, and pie (cake, yes... pie, no).
Another bit of advice to control the binges. When a binge strikes, and you're grabbing something to eat, SLOW DOWN. Eat it slowly. Savor every salt granule and gram of sugar. Take the time to enjoy the treat. You might be able to trick your subconscious into thinking you ate more than you really did.
I'm sorry, but again. I think these are tricks for overeating. Not for someone with a true BED.2 -
There are therapists who say they know about binge eating disorders and when you see them, they are actually not helpful. You have to find someone who specializes in binge eating disorders.
A medicine to help with BED? You mean phen-phen or these days it is only just one of those medications they sell now? It truly is an extremely hard thing to get over. I am still struggling every day after 45+ years of it.
Therapy, nutritionist/dietician/Overeaters Anonymous, books (though my OA sponsor told me to dump my nutritionist because neither one believes in each others ways of doing things.1 -
I binge (eat & drink!) on the weekends, but not during the week. It's easy not to do it during the week: I don't have any foods in the house to binge on, and I don't eat foods at work that I didn't bring myself.
I also eat less during the week to allow for weekend hedonism.
If you don't want to eat it, just stop buying it.0 -
To the original poster...I feel very similar to you and many others on this thread. I have anxiety and depression issues and have about 30 pounds to lose. I find myself doing fine all day and then completely blow it at night. I have discussed this with my therapist so many times and it seems like I binge when I am feeling depleted in other areas--tired, stressed, kid issues--so "hungry" for something that is not food, like rest or control or physical contact or something else I can't put my finger on. I have been able to do a little better with a few tricks--one, I set my fitbit to buzz me at 9pm so I get up and go to bed. That helps--if I am better rested I am able to make better choices all day long plus I am not up late inhaling anything that is not moving faster than me. Second, I have a ton of fancy flavors of green tea that I really like and I brew a big mug in the evening and sip on that. Third, I have a liter bottle full of water that I drink each day and I often have to finish it up at night, so that helps too. Now, to be clear--I do NOT have it licked, these tricks do not work every night. Also, allowing myself to have a reasonable sized treat helps--getting rid of the "all of nothing" thinking--either I can eat ALL of the cookies or NONE of the cookies--it's a ridiculous way to think but there it is--I do it all the time and am working on it.
I would encourage you to talk to a therapist, though, even if you have had poor experiences in the past. I mean, just because you went to a movie you didn't like doesn't mean you never go to another movie! Try again, if not to help with the binging directly, but with the shame you feel. That's no good either!3 -
Thank everyone so much for taking the time to read and offer advice. I truly appreciate it.
I am in the UK so it is difficult to get a doctors appointment and difficult to get prescriptions for something not straightforward. I will try to get an appointment for my next time off work (3 and a half weeks) and see what they say. As I am not very overweight I'm not sure how seriously they will take me.
In the mean time I will just keep trying as am already doing. I used to off set my binges with fasts, but am trying now to follow a more healthy attitude to eating. I am currently at about 1000 calories today, so can have something else to eat before bed.0 -
I would like to gently point out that 1000 calories per day is lower than MFP recommends for any woman - they recommend at least 1200 calories per day. Perhaps your binging is triggered because you are well and truly hungry? Maybe moderating your calorie intake upward will give you some extra ammunition in this battle. I have no problem admitting that I am a binger in some instances, but I do not believe I have a disorder - just unhealthy habits, and that I am not an expert in these matters.0
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cross2bear wrote: »I would like to gently point out that 1000 calories per day is lower than MFP recommends for any woman - they recommend at least 1200 calories per day. Perhaps your binging is triggered because you are well and truly hungry? Maybe moderating your calorie intake upward will give you some extra ammunition in this battle. I have no problem admitting that I am a binger in some instances, but I do not believe I have a disorder - just unhealthy habits, and that I am not an expert in these matters.
Thank you, but I will eat something to bring me up to at least 1200, I was just happy I hadn't binged today. Sometimes I have started a binge when I have felt hungry, but really I is a different, empty kind of feeling, and it takes a lot of food to get rid of it0 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »cross2bear wrote: »I would like to gently point out that 1000 calories per day is lower than MFP recommends for any woman - they recommend at least 1200 calories per day. Perhaps your binging is triggered because you are well and truly hungry? Maybe moderating your calorie intake upward will give you some extra ammunition in this battle. I have no problem admitting that I am a binger in some instances, but I do not believe I have a disorder - just unhealthy habits, and that I am not an expert in these matters.
she said she is going to eat again before bed, that will take her above 1200...
Yes I read that but we dont know how much over 1000 calories she is eating, and if she stuggles as she describes, perhaps it would be beneficial for her to eat the maximum calories to lose .5 lbs per week, so she doesnt feel so hungry or deprived. I dont think the OP shared her stats, so this suggestion may indeed be moot, but its worth looking at.0 -
I've been diagnosed with BED for about 20 years. I take medicine for it, but it's still not enough to stop it. I've been to therapy, talked about it to professionals, and I still struggle with it. I find the best way to help me is to lose as slowly as I can so I have more calories. Knowing I can eat so many calories let's me fit in foods that I couldn't normally eat, then binge on because I didn't have the calories.0
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You dont sound pissed off, just concerned, and that is a wonderful trait. Dont sweat it.1
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Obviously speak to a BED specialist if you suspect it may be disordered eating because this advice is just for slip ups most people have whilst dieting, however if you think its just over indulgence for easily accessible food because you're dieting and end up "cracking" maybe sit down and have a proper discussion with your partner to see if you can get the trigger foods out of the house, it may be slightly inconvenient for him but he can still get treats whilst hes out and it'll give you more control, for me it's like trying to quit smoking whilst you've still got a pack of cigarettes in the house, sure you might crack and go to the shops but that at least gives you some time to talk yourself out of it and stay on track instead of just opening a draw and lighting up. x0
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1.) Seek out professional help for your BED
2.) Consider modifying your caloric goals in MFP; it's possible you are over restricting yourself and need to be kinder to your body. I weigh 185 lbs and this calculator says that as a sedentary person, I should eat 1467 Calories per day if I want to lose a pound a week. That number goes up if you're heavier or taller or more active or if you want to lose weight more slowly. Don't force yourself to lose weight quickly. Develop behaviors that you can practice forever and will help you live a long time. MFP is just a tool, don't let it govern your behavior. This website I linked also provides a macronutrient breakdown if you have heard of IIFYM or flexible dieting.
3.) Consider giving yourself a rule: you can eat whatever you want as long as you have 20g protein first. That's two-three hardboiled eggs. Cheese and nuts. A can of tuna. It will help fill you and sure you may binge still, but you're filling up with "good stuff" first.
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »This is why this board is so heart breaking for me... I know the people coming here and offering their support and suggestions are just offering what they know.. but these things just dont work.. and often a person trying to do these things with BED feel even more stupid and helpless because they honestly can't understand why its so hard to do something so simple..
I really should go... my inbox is open.. please seek me out.
I totally agree!!!0 -
animatorswearbras wrote: »Obviously speak to a BED specialist if you suspect it may be disordered eating because this advice is just for slip ups most people have whilst dieting, however if you think its just over indulgence for easily accessible food because you're dieting and end up "cracking" maybe sit down and have a proper discussion with your partner to see if you can get the trigger foods out of the house, it may be slightly inconvenient for him but he can still get treats whilst hes out and it'll give you more control, for me it's like trying to quit smoking whilst you've still got a pack of cigarettes in the house, sure you might crack and go to the shops but that at least gives you some time to talk yourself out of it and stay on track instead of just opening a draw and lighting up. x
Agreed. This advice is not for someone with a BED.0 -
Hi, I'm not sure if this will help, but I suffered from binge eating for many years. Since I was 11 years old I had been dieting and then binge eating and I had never been able to stop the cycle of restricting and then binging. I would diet for 3-4 months (often eating <500), then binge and regain the weight lost (plus extras) and then diet again. It's now been over a year since I last binge ate (end of 2015) and the need to binge is no longer there - although I do worry that I'll return to binge eating at some point! I think breaking away from my diet mentality has really helped. I just stick to 1300 calories or so and allow myself nice food that isn't all salads and soups.1
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I'm a binge eater myself, it doesn't matter what food I have in the house when I want to binge I will and usually I order takeaways even if I have healthy food in the house. I would be lucky if I would go a week without binging. I would literally binge and then the next day weigh myself and see I've put on weight and think oh screw it what's the point and then spend the next few days not caring what I eat.
I've also suffered from depression and anxiety in the past and I still do but not as bad. However since new year I've been trying something new, I've been trying meditation and also going completely tech free before bed. what I mean is I will turn all tech off and the lights off and read from my kindle, I've researched that as the light from the kindle isn't blue it doesn't effect sleep. This has helped me to get to sleep a lot easier than before.
I will literally meditate anywhere now even if its just 10 min's on the train on the way to work. I've also been increasing my cardio not for the weight loss effect but more because I've noticed the more I do the better I feel.
Since I've been doing that I literally have only binged once this month even then I didn't binge anywhere near as bad as I used to, that's a record for me I've never done that before ever.2 -
I went to a therapist & she helped with sorting out why I felt shame & unworthy but I didn't stop bingeing. I have had bed since I was a young girl. What is working now is praying for God to take away my desire to eat unhealthy food. Then I stocked my kitchen with healthy things. I only weigh once a month. So I don't use ups & downs as excuses to binge. I don't let my mind think about things I used to binge on. Am about to weigh tomorrow. Focus on making your body healthy not on losing lb.s. If you eat right the weight will come off. Praying for all of you.2
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When I started MFP, I needed to lose about 50 lbs. I had a similar issue to what you are having for the first 2+ years. The only difference is that, in my case, I actually was hungry. My appetite was insatiable. Even eating at maintenance was not enough, so eating at a deficit made me feel like I was starving every single day. I used willpower as long as I could to get through and allowed myself a cheat day when I reached certain weight milestones.
Unfortunately, I was also losing much more slowly than I should have been based on the calories I was eating... so it would be months between cheat days. When a cheat day happened, though, I would eat as much as I wanted of whatever I wanted. I would do it on a weekend where I didn't have to go anywhere or do anything so I could stay home and just cook and eat. I would buy stuff ahead of time and order pizzas (would go out to retrieve pizza since the place doesn't deliver and also fresh donuts in the morning, but that is it). On cheat days, I would start out with breakfast foods - usually a dozen or 2 dozen donuts, 2 or 3 boxes of fruity pebbles (2 boxes) and cocoa pebbles (1 box), and probably a loaf or 2 of banana bread sliced with margarine on top. Then I would cook 4 lbs. of spaghetti along with sausage and sauce. Later, I would get a couple pizzas, eat that with a few bags of potato chips and chip dip plus a half gallon of sherbet and a half gallon of ice cream along with a couple of cakes and some brownies (homemade usually with the cake mixes and frosting).
For those cheat days, which only happened once every several months, I wouldn't feel like I was starving. That kept me going and gave me the willpower to deal with frustratingly slow weight loss while I really wanted to eat more. I'm not sure if that solution will work for you, but it is an idea. I'm sure your cheat days, if done with such irregularity (for example, after every 10 lbs. loss) won't be nearly as devastating as mine; and yet I still was able to make it past. I'm almost at my goal weight now.0 -
I struggled with binge eating disorder for about thirty years. I tried everything I could think of to control it but nothing really worked. I finally went to see a doctor who specializes in bariatrics and I am now taking a medication that treats it (it's NOT a diet pill) and I no longer experience the urge to binge. The compulsion is just gone, as long as I take my medication. This is the ONLY thing that has ever truly helped me and I'm so grateful for it.1
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@fourtherecord I fully get where you are coming from with feeling embarrassed about reaching out for help. I am a male in my mid 30's married with kids, and for over 3 years thought I was loosing my mind on a daily basis. I used to be in decent shape and weigh in around 170 lbs. Then I started to get larger and larger and the things I used to do were not working for me any more, I would try to count calories, go carb free, goto the gym, but then I was self sabotaging. I would do ok in front of my wife, and others, but in secret shame I would binge on everything I could get my hands on. At the time I felt powerless, I would get this urge and the more I fought it the worse it was when it finally took over. I would goto the gym, then stop at the store and eat 6 doughnuts and wash it down with a large sugary coffee drink, or chocolate milk, but large bags of candy and eat the entire thing in the 4 minutes it would take for me to drive home. I hid the evidence and lied to my my family about it. I did this for quite sometime and the more I binged the worse I felt which made me binge more. Only I had no idea what B.E.D was, so I thought I was just weak and powerless and that this is how life was going to be for me from now on.
I was finally at a very low point and my heaviest weight ever, and I had pushed those closest to me away, and I finally reached out and got myself some help. I talked to my doctor, and was going over the depression, and some OCD, and ADHD things I thought I may have had, then I mentioned the weight gain, and started to talk about the hiding food and she pulled out a pamphlet and started to ask me a series of questions, and I answered them, and then she started to tell me about B.E.D. We talked about a few treatments and decided to try a medication and the medication has helped me a lot over the last year in trying to get better control of my binges, it has not fixed everything but it has given me a really good handle on sorting out the causes of my binges, and helped to reduce the desire to binge.
There is a stigma around men and mental health, and things like that. People assume if you admit there is a problem that you are weak, which makes it so much harder for a male to look into getting help. But I have written blog posts, and started a group for people with problems with Binge Eating, because I hate the thought of anyone having to suffer alone like I did. Mental health is a terrible thing that no one should have to face alone.
Here is a link to the group I created, there is a diverse population some are officially diagnosed, others just have some struggles, so feel free to look around read through the posts and hopefully you will find the strength to go and seek out help. I know for me the hardest part was to talk about it, but once I started to talk, I made myself get everything out so that I could get the best possible outcome from my visit.
Good luck to you and please know you are not alone with your struggles.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/112095-binge-eating-disorder
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