500% wrong on nutrition label?!?!

CeeBeeSlim
CeeBeeSlim Posts: 1,348 Member
edited November 15 in Health and Weight Loss
Is my math right? Something I thought based on the nutrition label was 5 calories per tbsp is 25 per tbsp? I confirmed the difference after calling the manufacturer after it tasted too sweet to be that low in calories. They're "looking into it". Huh?!?!

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  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    what product?
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Can you post a picture of the label? (You can probably find one online.)
  • CeeBeeSlim
    CeeBeeSlim Posts: 1,348 Member
    Oooh. Not sure I know how. Not at home now but it's an apple butter. They said they only made one apple butter and it's 25 cals per 1 tbsp, not 5! I'll try when I home. It's Red something.,,,
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,093 Member
    Are you sure the label doesn't say tsp instead of Tbsp? The rounding that is allowed on nutrition labels could account for the five-fold (rather than three-fold) difference between 5 cals per tsp and 25 cals per Tbsp
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
    Would it be Red Jacket? Fooducate has the nutrition at 25 calories per tablespoon.
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
    Checked another site and it is listed as 35 calories per tbl. I can't seem to find a picture of the actual nutrition label however.
  • SusanMFindlay
    SusanMFindlay Posts: 1,804 Member
    There's no way that apple butter is 5 cals/tbsp. Maybe 5 cals/tsp - but even that would be pushing it.
  • cross2bear
    cross2bear Posts: 1,106 Member
    A search for calories in a generic apple butter returns an answer of 29 calories per tablespoon. If it were 5 cals per teaspoon, that would still be only 15 calories per tablespoon, so clearly, something is not right on the nutrition label to which you are referring.
  • CeeBeeSlim
    CeeBeeSlim Posts: 1,348 Member
    Yes! Red jacket. Will try to attach now...ulgmjd5uicjk.jpg
  • frantim528
    frantim528 Posts: 48 Member
    Yeah, that's definitely wrong. There are 4 calories per gram of carbohydrate so just the 2g of carbs would be 8 calories.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,242 Member
    Yup, that label is completely wrong. What frantim528 said, plus - if there is only 2g of carbs, no protein and no fat, what the hell makes up the other 17g, given the ingredients are nothing but apples and spices?
  • DietPrada
    DietPrada Posts: 1,171 Member
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.
  • hellobaconplease
    hellobaconplease Posts: 108 Member
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.

    I thought it was either 20ml or 25ml depending on where you live? My spoons I use for baking say '20ml - 1 tablespoon'
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,242 Member
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.

    I thought it was either 20ml or 25ml depending on where you live? My spoons I use for baking say '20ml - 1 tablespoon'

    I think its 20ml or 15 ml depending where you live.
  • CafeRacer808
    CafeRacer808 Posts: 2,396 Member
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.

    I thought it was either 20ml or 25ml depending on where you live? My spoons I use for baking say '20ml - 1 tablespoon'

    I think its 20ml or 15 ml depending where you live.

    Yet another reason why every country should be on the metric system!
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,242 Member
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.

    I thought it was either 20ml or 25ml depending on where you live? My spoons I use for baking say '20ml - 1 tablespoon'

    I think its 20ml or 15 ml depending where you live.

    Yet another reason why every country should be on the metric system!

    Yup!! It's enough of a difference to really screw up some fussy recipes, I've found to my sadness
  • CafeRacer808
    CafeRacer808 Posts: 2,396 Member
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.

    I thought it was either 20ml or 25ml depending on where you live? My spoons I use for baking say '20ml - 1 tablespoon'

    I think its 20ml or 15 ml depending where you live.

    Yet another reason why every country should be on the metric system!

    Yup!! It's enough of a difference to really screw up some fussy recipes, I've found to my sadness

    Same, unfortunately. :/
  • SusanMFindlay
    SusanMFindlay Posts: 1,804 Member
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.

    I thought it was either 20ml or 25ml depending on where you live? My spoons I use for baking say '20ml - 1 tablespoon'

    I think its 20ml or 15 ml depending where you live.

    Seriously? Where is 1 tbsp not 3 tsp? Why would it ever be 4 tsp?
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,242 Member
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.

    I thought it was either 20ml or 25ml depending on where you live? My spoons I use for baking say '20ml - 1 tablespoon'

    I think its 20ml or 15 ml depending where you live.

    Seriously? Where is 1 tbsp not 3 tsp? Why would it ever be 4 tsp?

    Australia, apparently - which is weird because all of my tablespoons are 15ml... now I'm well confused about recipes I make.
  • CooCooPuff
    CooCooPuff Posts: 4,374 Member
    What brand is this anyway? That's just screwy.
  • pebble4321
    pebble4321 Posts: 1,132 Member
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.

    I thought it was either 20ml or 25ml depending on where you live? My spoons I use for baking say '20ml - 1 tablespoon'

    I think its 20ml or 15 ml depending where you live.

    Seriously? Where is 1 tbsp not 3 tsp? Why would it ever be 4 tsp?

    Seriously, where has 3tsp ever been 1 tablespoon? 1 tbspn = 20ml as long as I've been cooking (with the exception of my grandma's old recipe books which use pounds and ounces so I've had to learn those too).
    Different measurements, different countries, that's just the way it is.

    Cup measure are different too - 250ml is a cup in Australia, 4 cups to a litre, very logical.
    US cups are 236ml which seem completely stupid, except that I think that is a direct conversion from 8 oz, so I suppose that is logical too if you are still using imperial measurements rather than metric.

    For many recipes this won't matter but, particularly in baking, the quantities can be critical so it's important to know where your recipe comes from and use the appropriate measuring instrument to suit your recipe and not just make assumptions that everything is the same as the one you are used to.

    And back to the original topic - good spotting OP, that is clearly an error so the manufacturer will have to correct it and that will benefit all your fellow calories counters too once it gets fixed.
  • SusanMFindlay
    SusanMFindlay Posts: 1,804 Member
    edited January 2017
    pebble4321 wrote: »
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.

    I thought it was either 20ml or 25ml depending on where you live? My spoons I use for baking say '20ml - 1 tablespoon'

    I think its 20ml or 15 ml depending where you live.

    Seriously? Where is 1 tbsp not 3 tsp? Why would it ever be 4 tsp?

    Seriously, where has 3tsp ever been 1 tablespoon? 1 tbspn = 20ml as long as I've been cooking (with the exception of my grandma's old recipe books which use pounds and ounces so I've had to learn those too).
    Different measurements, different countries, that's just the way it is.

    Canada. US. UK. Every cookbook I've ever seen in my life (the vast majority of which are from those three countries).

    I seriously had no idea that a tablespoon was anything other than 15 mL (3 tsp) anywhere in the world. So, while somewhat flip, I was asking so that I would know if I ever tried to follow a recipe from a place with bigger tablespoons. So, now I know to be careful with recipes from Australia.
  • pebble4321
    pebble4321 Posts: 1,132 Member
    pebble4321 wrote: »
    And 7 ml is not a tablespoon. 15 ml is a tablespoon. Looks like they got it all wrong.

    I thought it was either 20ml or 25ml depending on where you live? My spoons I use for baking say '20ml - 1 tablespoon'

    I think its 20ml or 15 ml depending where you live.

    Seriously? Where is 1 tbsp not 3 tsp? Why would it ever be 4 tsp?

    Seriously, where has 3tsp ever been 1 tablespoon? 1 tbspn = 20ml as long as I've been cooking (with the exception of my grandma's old recipe books which use pounds and ounces so I've had to learn those too).
    Different measurements, different countries, that's just the way it is.

    Canada. US. UK. Every cookbook I've ever seen in my life (the vast majority of which are from those three countries).

    I seriously had no idea that a tablespoon was anything other than 15 mL (3 tsp) anywhere in the world. So, while somewhat flip, I was asking so that I would know if I ever tried to follow a recipe from a place with bigger tablespoons. So, now I know to be careful with recipes from Australia.

    I was being somewhat flip too, though I know tone doesn't carry well in writing. And a bit surprised that this would be surprising. However a little "research" (ok, googling) tells me this might be even more complex than I thought, which surprised me too:

    Here are examples of discrepancies in TABLESPOON MEASURES

    TABLESPOON MEASURES:
    Margaret Powell (British) 1970 Tablespoon = 18 ml
    Australian and New Zealand Complete cooking 1973 = Tablespoon = 25 ml
    Best of Cooking (Hamlyn) - Tablespoon, (Australia) = 20 ml
    Best of Cooking (Hamlyn) - Tablespoon, (British) = 17,7 ml
    Best of Cooking (Hamlyn) - Tablespoon, (America) 14,2
    Indian Cooking, Chowhary 1952 - = Tablespoon = 25 ml
    Cook and Enjoy, De Villiers 1971 (South Africa) = Tablespoon = 12,5 ml
    Complete South African Cookbook (South Africa) 1979 Tablespoon = 12,5
    The Australian Women's weekly 1978 = 20 ml

    I found the following Tablespoon references on the Internet
    British Tablespoon = 17,7 ml, 18 ml, 15 ml
    Australian Tablespoon = 20 ml or 25 ml
    Canadian Tablespoon = 15 ml
    American Tablespoon = 14,2, 14,79
    South African Tablespoon = 12,5 or 15 ml


    From: http://whitegranny.blogspot.com.au/2008/11/beware-of-tablespoon.html

    So, my takeaway lesson for today is that if it's a recipe where quantities need to be very precise, to either look for ml or find out where and when the recipe is from and see if they have more info about measures. Really though, there's very few things I cook where it matters, I'm not big on following recipes, and I'm very likely to throw in handfuls of this or that along the way to suit my taste.

    Apologies for the highjack, but I thought this was cool!
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