Gastric Bypass...
DietingMommy08
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I use to think it was a lazy way to lose weight.... like are you really that lazy that you cant get up n exercise so your gonna harm your body just to lose the weight?!
Now it seems like EVERYBODY around me is getting it done and its starting to cross my mind more...
Whats everybodys opinions on it?!
Now it seems like EVERYBODY around me is getting it done and its starting to cross my mind more...
Whats everybodys opinions on it?!
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I have one friend that got it and when she lost all her weight she became an alcoholic, a year later had a mental break, has attempted suicide multiple times, her husband left her and she had to move back in with her mother in another state and is currently in a hospital from yet another suicide attempt.
On that note, I also have a friend that had it, lost all the weight, looks fantastic and is almost the same person.
Long story short: It works for some people, it doesn't work for others. Make sure you have all your ducks in a row before going through something that changes your mind and body so drastically.0 -
If you are going to resort to a surgery that slices you open then staples your stomach to a smaller size that can have complications like internal bleeding, consider going to a weight loss clinic or talking to your doctor about the prescription drugs available to help you (Yes Im expecting backlash over this) but something to boost you on your way and help you learn those healthy habits quicker can keep you away from surgery0
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I would never get anything cut that doesn't NEED to be cut. It's too risky, and I think long term complications could arise, and we don't know that much about them. I've also heard of a lot of people who get this done, or the lap band done, and then because they're eating because of emotional issues, the manage to gain the weight back.
That being said, if you're having severe health complications because of your weight, and this is the only way to save your life...then, it's a necessity and you gotta get it done.
I just heard of someone who'd got the lap band 6 weeks-ish ago, and she's already lost more weight in that time than I have. Is that healthy? I don't know. But I have to do what feels right for me. I hope you do the same for you and that it works!0 -
It is a tool, like any other. It is invasive, and life changing (good and bad), but it is NOT a cure all. Do your research, but even after you have this done it is possbile to gain and hold a lot of weight. You still have the same issues with eating right, exercising right, etc. I had it done, and lost a lot of weight, but didn't learn how to eat right or exercise effectively, so I put on a lot of weight again. Not sure I would do it again, but???0
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I work as a nurse in a hospital that performs this type of surgery. For some people, it is quite successful, but I think it's getting too popular as an acceptable weight loss strategy. There are many complications associated with this type of surgery, and the long term effects are simply unknown. I often wonder how these people will function in their 70's or 80's with a major portion of their stomach missing. The other big issue is the fact that even after the surgery, people can eat their way to gaining back the weight.
In my humble opinion, if you are trying to loose weight with diet and exercise, focus on those 2 factors. It's hard, I know, but the rewards for doing it yourself far outweigh the risks in having surgery.
Just my thoughts.0 -
Depends on the situation....but either way....unless it's some medical condition....it didn't happen over night, it's not coming off overnight. And since you have to get counseling and start a healthy lifestyle to even get started in that process, you should already have the mindset to lose weight and no longer need it.
I have very little sympathy....and I'm sure I'll get screamed at...but it's my honest opinion...it's not like you woke up one day and was so obese that you needed to have it.0 -
Honestly, yes I do think its lazy. I can't help it. I mean, I guess you know whatever gets you down to a healthy weight, I guess... but man its just such an invasive and permanent altering of your body. I also just wonder how much do they teach you after the surgery? Are people required to go to weekly or monthly meeting to make sure they understand what it means to eat healthy? Or do they get the surgery and then kick the person with a serious eating disorder out the door?
Anyway, I try not to judge because I don't have to do it. I hope that people just take it very seriously after going through that massive change.0 -
I used to be completely against gastric bypass or lap band surgery. I felt that diet and exercise were the only way to go and altering your body was really extreme. And I had seen so many people get the surgery, lose the weight, then gain it back because they never dealt with the core issues of overeating and a sedentary lifestyle. HOWEVER...I have a client who has been committed to working out three days a week for a year and a half, gives it her all when she's there, gets her cardio in on her own the rest of the week and eats healthy and consciously. Her stamina has increased 100 percent and she has a LOT of muscle. But the weight loss has not come. She has many health problems which effect her ability to lose weight, caused by the excess weight. It is a vicious circle. I fully support her decision to have lap band surgery because I know she will continue to work out and eat correctly and the surgery will not be in vain. So in my opinion, there is a place for these kind of surgeries but the person doing it must be committed to change and have made serious lifestyle changes for at least a year prior to surgery.0
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Had it... went through a traumatic experience one year after and began binge eating and stretched my stomach out. I can tell you that i still have the side effects even though i have a "big" stomach again. I don't absorb nutrients well, became anemic, have "dumping syndrome" sometimes even now.... and a huge scar but then again i had mine in 2000 about 2 months after carnie wilson and i was a case study. You lose the weight quickly and the body cannot catch up. I can tell you first hand that while slow and steady may seem tedious the body will look better and feel better if lost naturally. message me if you have any questions. This is a VERY serious surgery with life changing outcomes that last forever.0
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In my opinion, if u really really need to loose weight, u need to set ur mind to it, make u r plate small, exercise and get going, and the weight will come off...,,i mean its easy math dont consume more food then u need to and the weight will come back off gotta put in that sweat, sorry but whoever thinks there is a quick fix to this problem, is very wrong and needs a reality check, i know i wasn't as heavy as i am now 10 hears ago, its my choice if i will let it go on and if i want to be 20-30-40 lbs the next 10 years or will i stop this cycle once and for all...these are OUR choices, so if u need counseling if u need a shrink if u need dietitians to teach u what to eat, how to exercise, GET THEM...but the point is changing our lifestyle, and if we dont do that no surgery will help sorry!!!0
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In my opinion, if u really really need to loose weight, u need to set ur mind to it, make u r plate small, exercise and get going, and the weight will come off...,,i mean its easy math dont consume more food then u need to and the weight will come back off gotta put in that sweat, sorry but whoever thinks there is a quick fix to this problem, is very wrong and needs a reality check, i know i wasn't as heavy as i am now 10 hears ago, its my choice if i will let it go on and if i want to be 20-30-40 lbs the next 10 years or will i stop this cycle once and for all...these are OUR choices, so if u need counseling if u need a shrink if u need dietitians to teach u what to eat, how to exercise, GET THEM...but the point is changing our lifestyle, and if we dont do that no surgery will help sorry!!!0
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Personnally, I am terrified of ANY Weight Loss Surgery. My Mother had her stomach stapled in the early 90's and has had nothing but health issues since then. She never lost any significant amount of weight.
My Friend had a daughter who had some kind of Gastric Bypass surgery 3 years ago. I am not sure what type it was. She is having severe health problems, isin the Hospital frequently, and cannot keep any solid food down. She has had stomach ulcers twice related to the Surgery, and they have scheduled a Reversal for the surgery as soon as she is strong enough.
On the other hand, I have a Friend my age who had WLS in the early 90's and is doing beautifully. She has lost all her weight and kept it off for several years with no complications that I am aware of. Same with a Teacher I had in Nursing School. She had hers done in the Late 80's or early 90's and is doing Great.
As the others have said, Do your research, and make sure that you are prepared Physically AND Emotionally.
:flowerforyou: or the record, I do NOT Believe that Surgery is the "Easy" Way to lose Weight, nor do I think people who have it are "Lazy". It is just a Tool and it MAY be the Right Tool for you.0 -
If you can't get the eating right then you won't be successful with gastric bypass, so why not get that down and do it on your own! I am so glad I didnt go through with it, I'm almost 70 lbs down and it's all thanks to my own hard work! ;-)0
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I have 2 relatives & 3 friends that have had the surgery; of those 5 only one has lost a considerable amount of weight. She has lost over 150 lbs & is now in the process of saving money to have her skin removal surgery. Hers will be very extensive, since she did no form of exercise while she was losing the weight.
I personally would not do this; the long term effects are still not known, since it is relatively a new surgery (compared to surgeries that have been around for decades). I would much rather have the sense of accomplishment that comes from doing it the right way, with a lifestyle change including exercise.
I may not have the stomach the size of a ping pong ball, but I can pretty much eat what I want to, when I want to and not have to worry about it tearing up my itty bitty, tiny tummy! Of the 5 people that I know that have gone thru this, not one of them can say that. They eat the wrong foods or too much & they are sick as a dog. Just not worth it in my book, but that is my 2 cents, for what it is worth.
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I am almost afraid to post here. I had gastric bypass on Feb. 7, 2011. There are many reasons to have gastric bypass done, including health issues. You must attend nutrition classes and see a nutritionist for 5 years post op. You communicate with your nutritionist anytime needed between appointments. You have to take vitamin and mineral supplements for the rest of your life. You have to have a psychological exam with a psychiatrist. The process to have the surgery is quite involved and can take up to a year depending on your insurance company. I began eating right and exercising a year before the surgery. I eat 6 small meals a day. I can eat anything within moderation (no fried foods or sugary foods). It depends how committed you are before and after the surgery. It is not a cure all. It is tool just like MFP. You only get out of it what you put into it.0
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Thank you everybody ur opinions have all helped me in one way or another. I could definetly not do it no matter what crossed my mind... Stupid as it sounds i would be more scared of the extra skin then the side effects. Lol.0
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i am (possibly)pre-op,(i have my name down on nhs in uk)i have done all th classes for it ect,you still have to loose a fair wack of weight before hand,,, and you only loose something like 80% of your EXECSS body fat!
on top of that you will never be able to "stuff" your face again,like xmas day! also some foods you just wont be able to eat at all as your body will not tolerate it(could be crusty bread could be lettace!)pot luck on that one! and the main thing that puts me off is that you have to chew your food till it is like liquid in your mouth! OH JOY!
so this is why i am giving it one more big push between now and may if i aint done it by then my date will be nearly up to gwt it done!0 -
The opinion of myself and many other trainers I know is that we are nervous of bands- there are no truely long term results out there, and many GPs believe that limiting food intake to such a degree will have a detrimental effect on lifespan and the ability to absorb vital nutrients later on (they weight this concern against the shortened lifespan from obseity when making judgements). It is also a major operation- as with all operations it carries associated risks including death. The biggest concern from my perspective is that the body absorbs nurients through chemical reactions (for example, when it processes fats and proteins, it uses the mineral calcium to aid this process amongst others). A deficiency in these vital nutrients would be easy to develop following this surgery.
It is also extremely easy to cheat a band- consuming only high calorie liquid foods for example.
Remember that with diet and excercise weight loss is gradual and you will it plateaus. Try changing your excercise to a Macrocycle format so that your body doesn't become tolerant to it, and good luck.0 -
For me it is very simple, I didn't have surgery to put this weight on, I'm not gonna have surgery to take it off.0
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If you can't get the eating right then you won't be successful with gastric bypass, so why not get that down and do it on your own! I am so glad I didnt go through with it, I'm almost 70 lbs down and it's all thanks to my own hard work! ;-)
This. When it comes downs to it, you MUST eat properly and excerise in order to be successful with this surgery. Sure, it'll be quicker. But then again, if you stay focused on your food and exercise program you will be successful too. I don't judge people because they choose weight loss surgery. I think that it is actaully necessary for some people, but not the vast majority. My mom had lap-band, but I don't think it was RIGHT for her because she didn't use it properly and her mindset wasn't right. I belive that she thought it would be some kind of miracle, but it wasn't and she didn't do the work it took for it to be an effective tool.
Another thing: I think it's important to have the mindset that this will be your life-long struggle. From my own experience, I lost 90lbs through diet and exercise and gained 80lbs back. I had to get in the mindset that THIS is the way I need to be every day of my life for the rest of my life: healthy and moving. And it's so rewarding because it's my hard work.0 -
For me it is very simple, I didn't have surgery to put this weight on, I'm not gonna have surgery to take it off.0
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For me it is very simple, I didn't have surgery to put this weight on, I'm not gonna have surgery to take it off.
yeh but the way i see it till your flying over the 300/400 lb mark you cant really know what you are talking about!0 -
I had gastric bypass at the age of 36 and as an obese person as long as I can remember I wish now that I had been able to do it so much earlier. Being obese is a vicious cycle, trying to exercise, but hurting too much to exercise, so stopping exercising. Having a metabolism that is on the floor. I had also tried every diet imaginable out there. Losing weight was not really my problem--keeping it off was~ AND when the pounds came back, it was always more than what I had lost!
As an ER nurse, it took me about 3 years to decide that surgery was the right choice for me. I would see people with complications in the ER, but I did not see any of the successes; and believe me, there are more successes than complications.
You will find many posters on here who talk about the risks of GBS but I implore you to do your research yourself. Like any surgery, there are risks, but overall today GBS is really a safe surgery; and compared to a lifetime of being obese and yo-yo dieting I came to realize the benefits of the surgery outweighed the risks. I would suggest that to minimize the risks do your research, particularly about your surgeon. What is their complication rate? How many deaths (if any) have they had? How many of this type of surgery do they do each year?
A great resource for information in general was obesityhelp.com . I found this website extremely helpful during my journey.
As others have pointed out, GBS is just a tool to managing weight. For me, it has been very successful. I have lost 125 pounds. However, it is not a nirvana~ Over the past 6 months I have gained 10 back due to my not following the pouch rules. Since on MFP I have lost 8 of those back and hope to lose a few more. After 5 years of surgery, the tool is still working for me.
I would caution you, however, regardless or surgery or not, to get therapy with a cognitive behavioral therapist who specializes in eating disorders. While genetics and other factors may play into obesity, there usually is also an underlying root psychologically to obesity. The therapist can assist you in determining whether the surgery is the right choice. There are factors such as are you mature enough to play by the rules (and there are pouch rules) that the therapist can help sort through. Additionally, if you do choose surgery therapy will be helpful with dealing with body image issues and social issues that emerge from losing so much weight after being so heavy.
Wishing you the best~0 -
I am almost afraid to post here. I had gastric bypass on Feb. 7, 2011. There are many reasons to have gastric bypass done, including health issues. You must attend nutrition classes and see a nutritionist for 5 years post op. You communicate with your nutritionist anytime needed between appointments. You have to take vitamin and mineral supplements for the rest of your life. You have to have a psychological exam with a psychiatrist. The process to have the surgery is quite involved and can take up to a year depending on your insurance company. I began eating right and exercising a year before the surgery. I eat 6 small meals a day. I can eat anything within moderation (no fried foods or sugary foods). It depends how committed you are before and after the surgery. It is not a cure all. It is tool just like MFP. You only get out of it what you put into it.
Thank you for sharing! So glad to hear that pot-op people are required to see a nutritionist. It seems that would be very important.0 -
For me it is very simple, I didn't have surgery to put this weight on, I'm not gonna have surgery to take it off.
yeh but the way i see it till your flying over the 300/400 lb mark you cant really know what you are talking about!
At my biggest, I weighed 341, currently, I weigh 304. And I was speaking for myself, not telling everyone to not have the surgery. It is a tough decision, I've thought about having it done. I decided it was not an option for me. That's all I meant. Sorry if any of you misunderstood me.0 -
I have been up and down on the scale my whole life. I am tired of the drama that comes with it. I have been on so many diets throughout the years, but nothing that stuck.. i've lost 40lbs here, 60lbs there, even as much as 80lbs.. but i always allowed it to come back for some reason. i have even considered surgery. I went thru many of the tests to have it done, and then one night after an appointment, i had a major anxiety attack. i TRULY KNOW that surgery on my belly will NOT fix the problem. WHAT I NEED TO FIX IS IN MY HEAD. Nobody is going to do this for me.. There are no magic pills.. I simply have to make the necessary changes to fix the problem, and then continue that for the rest of my life.0
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I have read several opinions on the Gastric Bypass and since I have had this procedure done I felt like I need to share. In 2001 at the age of 24 I had this surgery. I was a last ditch effort for me. I had not always been obese. I was a high school athlete and had a very serious spine injury while playing college sports. Once I had the injury the weight just poured on. I would like to say it was just due to the injury but it was not, depression from the injury had a lot to do with it. Once I got to the point of being 300 lbs. I discussed it with my back surgeon because it seemed like the only option to help me if I did not want to have back surgery. My surgeon agreed and I made the decision. My family and friends DID NOT support me on the decision at the time since it was fairly uncommon to have such a surgery. I had known people who had it and it did not work for them and in one case I knew someone who died from it. I did my research and ound a surgeon that was very well recommended and had done hundreds upon hundreds of these surgeries. Once I had the surgery I dropped the wait very quickly and it made my back and health way better. I would like to tell people that you have to make the life decision that goes along with it. I was given a meal structure to follow and to tell you the truth I was so paranoid about the complications that I had heard about that I took everything to the extreme. If it said to be on liquids for a certain amount of time I doubled it. I wanted to take it slow re-introding food into my system. I did not eat bread products again for over a year. I am now 34 years old (10.5 years later) and I am consistently watch my weight. I had my first child this past year and during my pregnancy I watched my weight as well to make sure that I did not gain too much. Not only for keeping weight down but watching my back and how much I could carry along with the weight of my child. I had my baby a year ago and I am back to my pre-baby weight of 150 lbs. Even though my friends and family did not support the surgery when I was plannng on doing it, based on how I have maintained it over the past 10 years they say it was the best decision that I have ever made. My mom tells me that she believes that mentally I was prepared for the task at hand. For those who think it is a cop out, just remember that there are sometimes reasons for people to do this surgery. The only advice that I can give to people considering it is that I really think that you should discuss with your physician prior to and get their advice on if you are a good candidate. Mine told me that there was no physical way that I could exercise enough to get the weight of based on my back issues. You need to make the life changing decision to commit to loosing the weight and keeping it off.
Good luck to those who make this decision!0 -
I'm a band patient and let me say - no form of WLS is the easy way out. It's almost more work because it alters the way you look at food forever (both good and bad). I debated and researched it for four years, spoke to surgeons, nutritionists, psychologists, support groups....all before deciding it was for me. I have ZERO regrets. I like the band because it helps me to eat only the amounts I'm suppose to but it's not like it makes me not WANT to eat and choosing the right foods still falls on me. If I'm not willing to do the work then neither will the band. It's only 1 part of a 3 part system (band, proper diet and exercise...w/out all 3, the band will not work). There's no WLS that is going to bypass the brain, cravings, emotional eating, etc. So if overeating issues are emtionally driven then no WLS is going to work. But with commitment, it can be a very successful tool for those that just can't do it w/out that little extra help.
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Thank you so much for sharing your story. I have been on so many programs over the past 20 years and been able to loose the weight but not able to keep it off. I have over 100 lbs to loose and I am thinking of having gastric bypass surgery. I am in the process of going through all the paper work and appointments. I know I can do this and will make a life change for myself with eating healthy and exercising. That I am looking forward to. My concern and the one thing that is making me hesitant is the people that have had this surgery and are like 15- 20 years out of it. You dont hear much about it.. this surgery has been done for 30 years. I want to hear what a 60 year old has to say about how their health is after surgery over the 20 or 30 years. What are the medical complications that have happened if any. There have not been any studies on this. I am glad I read your post because 10 years is a long time and it sounds like it is going very well for you. Keep up the great work.0
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So glad I found this site to hear everyones sucess stories.0
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