Peloton- We regrets the purchase?
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NorthCascades wrote: »I just looked it up. A Zwift-compatible trainer starts at about $250 (current sale price) although most are in the $500 to $1,500 range. I think what that means is (1) the trainer can measure power in some way, and (2) the resistance can be controlled through software, so when "the game" has you riding up a hill, it gets harder to pedal, and when you crest the hill, it gets easier. Both of those features are valuable whether you're using an immersive virtual reality world or not.
It's a little more complicated than that.
There are 3 ways Zwift and Trainerroad work:- Smart Trainer. Wahoo KCKR, Elite Drivo, Cyclops Hammer. $900 min. These transmit power and can be controlled by the software to add resistance
- Power meter. Pretty self explanatory, but the software gets power info from the PM.
- Dumb trainer + speed & cadence sensor. Certain dumb trainers (I linked a bunch up above) have known power curves. By knowing what your trainer's resistance is, when the software knows your speed and cadence, it knows how much power you are putting out. These start at about $150-200
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raven56706 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »SeagalDeeDee wrote: »Raven-I am thankful for this topic as I too was considering it since I love biking but the fact that fittocycle mentioned internet speed may be a factor..... I've begun to question how it would work for us. I'm way outside the city in remote area.
if in a remote area - why not buy a bike and ride outside?
nah, just no time for leaving with my kiddies. im thinking of doing this early in the Am before they wake up.
What we're saying is they won't be that small forever. I've had my current road bike longer than I've been a dad, and my daughter just turned 9. The $800 I spent was well worth it.2 -
scorpio516 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »I just looked it up. A Zwift-compatible trainer starts at about $250 (current sale price) although most are in the $500 to $1,500 range. I think what that means is (1) the trainer can measure power in some way, and (2) the resistance can be controlled through software, so when "the game" has you riding up a hill, it gets harder to pedal, and when you crest the hill, it gets easier. Both of those features are valuable whether you're using an immersive virtual reality world or not.
It's a little more complicated than that.
There are 3 ways Zwift and Trainerroad work:- Smart Trainer. Wahoo KCKR, Elite Drivo, Cyclops Hammer. $900 min. These transmit power and can be controlled by the software to add resistance
- Power meter. Pretty self explanatory, but the software gets power info from the PM.
- Dumb trainer + speed & cadence sensor. Certain dumb trainers (I linked a bunch up above) have known power curves. By knowing what your trainer's resistance is, when the software knows your speed and cadence, it knows how much power you are putting out. These start at about $150-200
for the record, i use a dumb trainer
mine is 6yrs old and still going strong 2 -
scorpio516 wrote: »raven56706 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »SeagalDeeDee wrote: »Raven-I am thankful for this topic as I too was considering it since I love biking but the fact that fittocycle mentioned internet speed may be a factor..... I've begun to question how it would work for us. I'm way outside the city in remote area.
if in a remote area - why not buy a bike and ride outside?
nah, just no time for leaving with my kiddies. im thinking of doing this early in the Am before they wake up.
What we're saying is they won't be that small forever. I've had my current road bike longer than I've been a dad, and my daughter just turned 9. The $800 I spent was well worth it.
oh totally but the chances of me biking outside are slim to none. Where i live doesnt provide that? im looking for a good indoor cardio solution. Bicycle or cycling can possibly provide that.0 -
If you're that desperate to get a stationary bike, I'd look at a Wattbike, and an online subscription.1
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scorpio516 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »I just looked it up. A Zwift-compatible trainer starts at about $250 (current sale price) although most are in the $500 to $1,500 range. I think what that means is (1) the trainer can measure power in some way, and (2) the resistance can be controlled through software, so when "the game" has you riding up a hill, it gets harder to pedal, and when you crest the hill, it gets easier. Both of those features are valuable whether you're using an immersive virtual reality world or not.
It's a little more complicated than that.
There are 3 ways Zwift and Trainerroad work:- Smart Trainer. Wahoo KCKR, Elite Drivo, Cyclops Hammer. $900 min. These transmit power and can be controlled by the software to add resistance
- Power meter. Pretty self explanatory, but the software gets power info from the PM.
- Dumb trainer + speed & cadence sensor. Certain dumb trainers (I linked a bunch up above) have known power curves. By knowing what your trainer's resistance is, when the software knows your speed and cadence, it knows how much power you are putting out. These start at about $150-200
Thanks for clarifying this!0 -
can someone dumb it down for me if possible
the things i would need to get the same thing as a peloton?0 -
raven56706 wrote: »can someone dumb it down for me if possible
the things i would need to get the same thing as a peloton?
Here are 3 different setups that are in use by members of my training group.
1. My rig: a) CycleOps Fluid Trainer (a "dumb" trainer) $250. b) Wahoo Speed/Cadence Sensor $60. c) Heart rate monitor is integrated into with my garmin watch ($250) d)Power Meter= NONE. e) Trainerroad app $12/month or $99 year. I display app on my Windows PC Note: Trainerroad provides a feature called "Virtual Power" by taking information from my speed/cadence sensor and combining it with known resistance of the CycleOps trainer and turning that information into a Power number (WATTS). Kinda geeky, I know.
2. Friend #1 a) Wahoo Kicker trainer $1100. This is a trainer that mounts to your bike in place of back wheel. A Direct Drive setup. b&d) Speed/cadence/power is measured by this device. c) Heart Rate via Garmin 920xt $250. d) CycleOps virtual trainer app. Think it is $8/month, not sure. iPad used as display.
3 Friend #2 a) Wahoo Kicker SNAP trainer $475 on sale. This is a smart trainer that does NOT replace your bike's back wheel. items B, C, D) same setup as friend #1. iPad used as display.
The apps are displayed either on a Tablet or PC. The software apps that we currently use are Trainerroad, The Sufferfest series and CycleOps Virtual Training. We've seen Zwift, but haven't used it except to try it out at bike shop demo.
My 2 cents on cycling apps: If you're not driven by training for cycling performance improvements, you may not enjoy Trainerroad as much as an application that provides more of an outdoor cycling simulation, such as Zwift.
OH, last thing......You'll need a bike, too.
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I went through the same thoughts. And went with a road bike because I could use it indoors and out. Currently it is on a trainer and I use ZWIFT and TrainerRoad. Both excellent at improving my fitness, and riding as well as making my time on the trainer fly by. After using both, I find myself using ZWIFT more...great community too.
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As I'm not a cyclist - I just have a simple stationary at home - I'm not entirely sure why I've been following this thread. But it's been somewhat fascinating.
One question that I have: @raven56706 Why, exactly, are you looking for this particular type of setup? I know you've said that you want something for home, and you won't ride outside. Is there a reason a ~$200 stationary bike with a set of pre-programs and possibly user-programmable (at least manually adjustable resistance) and readout wouldn't work? For instance, my bike at home is just a Pro-Form (XP, I think?). I can manually adjust the resistance from 1-10, or it has 10 programs. It also has an SD slot, so I can add i-fit programs, should I want. It's not as sexy as the setup described in this thread, but it does the job. I don't know for sure if the Calorie count is correct, but I'm sure a Calorie-counting HRM would work for this.
If the Peloton or like is what you really want, great. I'm just not sure it sounds like it's what you need.2 -
deannalfisher wrote: »scorpio516 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »I just looked it up. A Zwift-compatible trainer starts at about $250 (current sale price) although most are in the $500 to $1,500 range. I think what that means is (1) the trainer can measure power in some way, and (2) the resistance can be controlled through software, so when "the game" has you riding up a hill, it gets harder to pedal, and when you crest the hill, it gets easier. Both of those features are valuable whether you're using an immersive virtual reality world or not.
It's a little more complicated than that.
There are 3 ways Zwift and Trainerroad work:- Smart Trainer. Wahoo KCKR, Elite Drivo, Cyclops Hammer. $900 min. These transmit power and can be controlled by the software to add resistance
- Power meter. Pretty self explanatory, but the software gets power info from the PM.
- Dumb trainer + speed & cadence sensor. Certain dumb trainers (I linked a bunch up above) have known power curves. By knowing what your trainer's resistance is, when the software knows your speed and cadence, it knows how much power you are putting out. These start at about $150-200
for the record, i use a dumb trainer mine is 6yrs old and still going strong
Me too. I got a Performance store brand Fluid+ about 6 year ago too for a stupid deal on clearance ($25!) and it does the virtual power on both TrainerRoad and Zwift, but I barely use it - I only rode a total of 35 miles in 2016
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scorpio516 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »scorpio516 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »I just looked it up. A Zwift-compatible trainer starts at about $250 (current sale price) although most are in the $500 to $1,500 range. I think what that means is (1) the trainer can measure power in some way, and (2) the resistance can be controlled through software, so when "the game" has you riding up a hill, it gets harder to pedal, and when you crest the hill, it gets easier. Both of those features are valuable whether you're using an immersive virtual reality world or not.
It's a little more complicated than that.
There are 3 ways Zwift and Trainerroad work:- Smart Trainer. Wahoo KCKR, Elite Drivo, Cyclops Hammer. $900 min. These transmit power and can be controlled by the software to add resistance
- Power meter. Pretty self explanatory, but the software gets power info from the PM.
- Dumb trainer + speed & cadence sensor. Certain dumb trainers (I linked a bunch up above) have known power curves. By knowing what your trainer's resistance is, when the software knows your speed and cadence, it knows how much power you are putting out. These start at about $150-200
for the record, i use a dumb trainer mine is 6yrs old and still going strong
Me too. I got a Performance store brand Fluid+ about 6 year ago too for a stupid deal on clearance ($25!) and it does the virtual power on both TrainerRoad and Zwift, but I barely use it - I only rode a total of 35 miles in 2016
lol - winter is the best time to dig it out - i'll admit to being extra motivated because my LBS is doing a winter riding challenge and the overall prize is a wahoo kick...so its getting my *kitten* on the trainer...
plus with my weird work schedule - i was often on the trainer until 10pm in the lead-up to my ironman (doing 5hrs on the indoor trainer isn't recommended)0 -
raven56706 wrote: »scorpio516 wrote: »raven56706 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »SeagalDeeDee wrote: »Raven-I am thankful for this topic as I too was considering it since I love biking but the fact that fittocycle mentioned internet speed may be a factor..... I've begun to question how it would work for us. I'm way outside the city in remote area.
if in a remote area - why not buy a bike and ride outside?
nah, just no time for leaving with my kiddies. im thinking of doing this early in the Am before they wake up.
What we're saying is they won't be that small forever. I've had my current road bike longer than I've been a dad, and my daughter just turned 9. The $800 I spent was well worth it.
oh totally but the chances of me biking outside are slim to none. Where i live doesnt provide that? im looking for a good indoor cardio solution. Bicycle or cycling can possibly provide that.
This is now, but you mentioned that you have two little kids. Do you see them biking in the future? I was in this phase, but my kids are 9, 6, and 3 and we have a trailer for the 3 year old. This is why I would recommend a good entry level road bike and stationary trainer. Pick up a tablet or set this up in front of a screen, but I wouldn't invest in all the ancillary gear on something you may not end up using.
I have an issue with anything proprietary like Peloton, because it leaves the owners with nothing once the business model fails.3 -
Raven, I have a peloton and it is absolutely incredible. The Peloton community is also incredible. It's a "tight knit" community of thousands upon thousands of people all connected by this one (very expensive) device. The workouts are addictive. The machine is addictive. The following is cult-like. If you're really curious- keep doing your own research. Visit a show room if at all possible and get on one. I haven't met anyone yet who regretted the purchase. Good luck.1
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Check out this blog:
http://www.mypursestrings.com/peloton-app/
I've been riding my own spin bike with the Peloton app. I either watch the class on my iPad or hook it up to watch it on my TV. I was tempted to buy the bike because I love the classes so much, but, I didn't like the idea of buying the bike without being able to check it out in person (no studios near me). I also like the ability to use other programs (Studio Sweat on Demand, Bitgym) with my bike.1 -
My pet peeve about the peleton is they put throw away pedals on it and they try to sell to "special" shoes for the bike that are just older style road shoe that accept the older style look cleat.
Every spin bike I have seen in a class has SPD on one side. Mountain bike shoes, AKA floor safe shoes, are SPD. I have not owned a pair of Look compatible shoes in 20 years.
Add to this the several hundred a year for the video subscription and you have an over priced system.
If I were going to buy one for home I'd consider a Keiser.0 -
LOVE my peloton! Yes...pricey...but i don’t need a gym membership! Live rides are really cool! All the instructors are super motivating. It has given me tons of motivation to work out.1
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My pet peeve about the peleton is they put throw away pedals on it and they try to sell to "special" shoes for the bike that are just older style road shoe that accept the older style look cleat.
Peleton bikes have Look delta pedals. Almost every single road bike shoe is delta compatible (and Look Keo and SPD-SL).0 -
Yeah, I upgraded from SPD to Look Keo a couple years ago to put a power meter on the bike.0
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I don't have one but I can tell you there is a Peloton store at the mall near me and it is pretty much empty every time I am there (we couldn't even figure out what it was supposed to be at first - they hadn't started advertising yet and it was just a couple empty exercise bikes sitting there empty). I don't take that as a good sign of longevity. And trust me - I used to work at the Nordic Track store that used to be in that same mall back in the day - it closed a long time ago (don't think it made it 10 years there) and had more business then I have ever seen in the Peloton store.0
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sunburntgalaxy wrote: »I don't have one but I can tell you there is a Peloton store at the mall near me and it is pretty much empty every time I am there (we couldn't even figure out what it was supposed to be at first - they hadn't started advertising yet and it was just a couple empty exercise bikes sitting there empty). I don't take that as a good sign of longevity. And trust me - I used to work at the Nordic Track store that used to be in that same mall back in the day - it closed a long time ago (don't think it made it 10 years there) and had more business then I have ever seen in the Peloton store.
For most, the choke point will be the $468 a year to link to the classes.1 -
scorpio516 wrote: »My pet peeve about the peleton is they put throw away pedals on it and they try to sell to "special" shoes for the bike that are just older style road shoe that accept the older style look cleat.
Peleton bikes have Look delta pedals. Almost every single road bike shoe is delta compatible (and Look Keo and SPD-SL).
I haven't used road shoes in a couple decades. Just MTB shoes. More walkable for short distances.0 -
i so want one still.. just sucks that its so expensive. i kind of want an all in one solution instead of pieces.0
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anyone else have pelotons? and if so, do you worry about the company going under when purchasing?0
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I love to run or ride straight from my front door. Indoor fitness equipment for me just gets in the way. The kids getting in the way, now that's a whole other problem to work around. I say skip the fancy display and just put the morning news on mute and get some good music or audio workout on.1
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I've never been much of a bike rider, but I took the plunge and purchased a Peloton on Jan 1 to help me lose 50 pounds by my 50th birthday in September. It is truly the absolute best piece of fitness equipment that I have ever purchased. It's super-fun, with a community of like-minded individuals to keep you motivated, and it makes me sweat like I haven't sweated since I was in the Army 30 years ago. And, on that note, one too many hard landings ruined my lower legs and makes it painful for me to run. I haven't had any issues riding the Peloton hard 4 days per week. I also really like all the metrics and competing against other people in the live classes. Your milage may vary, but it has truly changed my life in less than a month.5
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We bought the Peloton in Nov and I love it. I'm not gym person, so memberships don't work for me. I'm prior service and I have messed up my ankles and knees, so riding a reg bike doesn't work for me. It's hard on my knees and ankles. I can set my resistance on my Peloton and sometimes I'll test my knees and ankles limits. I have my weights, an elliptical and now my bike. Yeah it's pricey, but this works for me and it's in my craft room. Just didn't want it in my garage. I agree with Humanovation "I also really like all the metrics and competing against other people in the live classes". Great instructors on there, I love Jessica King. You can follow me Shirron_Luz. I have set up a goal for the month of February.0
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question for all you peloton peeps, is there somewhere on the monitor that says the amount of resistance or gears that you put?0
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raven56706 wrote: »for me and having 2 little ones, i cant go outside biking. So was looking for options in house. Build your own seems sexy but just need to know which one works
So, you have 2 little ones? Will they stay little forever or will they will grow and start riding bikes someday? Can you take them out bicyle riding on the Peloton? You sure can't. When my step kids were younger, we had so much fun loading up the bikes, going to parks with trails and going on long bike rided.
Therefore, getting a real bike is a future investment on quality outdoor active time with the kiddos.
Also, if you find cycling isn't for you, I'm sure it will be a heck of a lot easier to sell a bike/trainer set up compared to a Peloton, especially if Peloton doesn't stay in business.1 -
BeeerRunner wrote: »raven56706 wrote: »for me and having 2 little ones, i cant go outside biking. So was looking for options in house. Build your own seems sexy but just need to know which one works
So, you have 2 little ones? Will they stay little forever or will they will grow and start riding bikes someday? Can you take them out bicyle riding on the Peloton? You sure can't. When my step kids were younger, we had so much fun loading up the bikes, going to parks with trails and going on long bike rided.
Therefore, getting a real bike is a future investment on quality outdoor active time with the kiddos.
Also, if you find cycling isn't for you, I'm sure it will be a heck of a lot easier to sell a bike/trainer set up compared to a Peloton, especially if Peloton doesn't stay in business.
buying a bicycle isnt the option im looking for. Im looking for an exercise bike I understand that i can get a bike and ride it with my kids but thats not what im looking for. thanks though0
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