1 month in and no difference!!
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Yeah I have been doing (what I think I've logged pretty accurately) as 1200 net.. which is why I worry maybe I need to drop to more?
It's so disheartening and makes me frustrated to the point of almost crying when week after week I measure my stomach and it's still exactly the same... just want to be able to wear my old clothes and feel comfortable - you know?
I know there's no quick fix.. but I just don't want to waste more time doing the same thing and it keep making no difference to me0 -
Turning fat into muscle? Lol what?I think MFP has a downside in that it encourages most people to eat too little. When you are already close to your goal weight, the goal is no longer the number on the scale, but converting some of the remaining body fat into muscle. I think you might want to start paying attention to macros more than just the calorie number. It's actually one of my pet peeves about this app and the community. What works for someone who is obese will need to be tweaked a lot to work for someone who has far less to lose. Cardio alone won't have the same effect anymore. You need to add strength training if you want to see a real change in your body composition.
I am a good deal heavier than you, but here is an example of why MFP calorie numbers are not great. When I plugged my goal into MFP, it told me to eat 1200 calories. Meanwhile my BMR is 1500!!! I had my numbers done by an actual professional (after losing 60lbs on 1200 which is a VERY RESTRICTIVE DIET!!!) and now I eat up to 1800 calories a day and I'm losing on schedule. I have also lowered my body fat percent meaning that while the numbers haven't moved like they did on the restrictive diet, I am not damaging my muscles by letting them waste away like I have in the past. I am getting stronger and smaller at the same time. If you pay attention only to the scale, you WILL lose weight, but if you pay attention to fitness and nutrition, you will have far more control of your goals and results.
Now it does seem that most people here are kind of against doing these things because it's a lot of work. I believe my body, health and life are worth the work. I'll put two hours into finding a show on netflix I want to watch, I should be able to put a few hours a week into my body.
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You realize a half an inch here and an inch there is a big difference for someone who is already slim, right? That's tremendous.
Also, your body is going to hate you for what you're doing to it. While there is no such thing as starvation mode, there is such thing as "doing it wrong" and not seeing great results (so scientific, I know). Eat, log accurately, chillax with the cardio.0 -
OP, if I'm converting to pounds correctly, you want to lose @ 15-20 pounds. When you don't have much weight to lose, you don't have much wiggle room, so progress will be slow and any weekly loss can be easily masked by fluctuations in water weight. So you can go 3 weeks or so not seeing any results and then see a pound drop off. You have to be super patient. Having said that, double check your logging. Try not to use "generic" or "homemade" entries you find in the database, as they were probably added by other users and are probably wrong. Use your scale for as much as you can, including packaged foods.
You shouldn't have to eat less than 1200 cals unless you are super short or super sedentary. I had to become more active to buy myself a few more calories. I found increasing the protein and fiber in my diet helped me to feel full on fewer calories, so I could "fit in" a few more treats and nights out. Hang in there
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A couple of notes:
1. I peeked back through about a week of your diary, at in the last week anyway, you didn't average 1200 calories. That's okay, but it makes it difficult to determine what you should change if your feeling about what you're doing isn't the same as what you're actually doing. If you go back and average the last 30 days of your diary, what are you really eating?
2. You have a lot of "homemade" entries in your diary. Are these your recipes that you build with the Recipe Builder? If not, they're guaranteed to be inaccurate for what you're eating.
3. You have a lot of entries that read "1 pear" or "0.9 apples." If you already have a food scale and you're using it for some things, you should be using it more often.
Taken together, it seems like your logging is a little off and your interpretation of how much you're eating may not be completely accurate. If it were me, I'd take a step back and find the real average of my intake for the last month, then I'd look at improving my logging. That would be the easiest way to get back on track.5 -
Hi there. Yes I've opened up my diary now..
When I say homemade they are based off my own recipe where I have weighed the individual components previously.. same with saying 0.6 apples, because I know how much the average apple in my packet weighs and I need to x0.6 to get to that weight.. for example. So please i know people keep assuming I'm weighing wrong but honestly I'm already driving myself crazy with it!! Haha
In terms of my last week, yes this is a good example of where I had two bad days where I went out with friends and logged way over net 1200.. but as I say I haven't added my cardio here, I actually had an hour long cardio session on Monday Wednesday and Saturday.. in my mind I think this evens out but .. am I wrong?0 -
joannalouise92 wrote: »Okay so I'm happy to have a deficit of just 250 per day; but my difficulty is knowing what to take that from.. anyone have any idea what seems reasonable? Given I've been doing what I think is net 1200 per day (before gym workout calories) and not getting anywhere... is 1200 reasonable?[/q
Sorry if I missed it, do you make exercise?1 -
joannalouise92 wrote: »Okay so I'm happy to have a deficit of just 250 per day; but my difficulty is knowing what to take that from.. anyone have any idea what seems reasonable? Given I've been doing what I think is net 1200 per day (before gym workout calories) and not getting anywhere... is 1200 reasonable?[/q
Sorry if I missed it, do you make exercise?
Yes 3 hour long cardio sessions a week (which I haven't logged or counted in my daily calorie intake)0 -
Also in the interest of openness, I suppose it could be contributing to the weight issue that I've been constipated for a couple of weeks now.. even though I'm eating way more fibre and drinking more water I have in the last couple of years.. tips on how to alleviate this whilst maintaining my weight loss plans?0
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joannalouise92 wrote: »Also in the interest of openness, I suppose it could be contributing to the weight issue that I've been constipated for a couple of weeks now.. even though I'm eating way more fibre and drinking more water I have in the last couple of years.. tips on how to alleviate this whilst maintaining my weight loss plans?
all the answers on your other thread....0 -
OP, if I'm converting to pounds correctly, you want to lose @ 15-20 pounds. When you don't have much weight to lose, you don't have much wiggle room, so progress will be slow and any weekly loss can be easily masked by fluctuations in water weight. So you can go 3 weeks or so not seeing any results and then see a pound drop off. You have to be super patient. Having said that, double check your logging. Try not to use "generic" or "homemade" entries you find in the database, as they were probably added by other users and are probably wrong. Use your scale for as much as you can, including packaged foods.
You shouldn't have to eat less than 1200 cals unless you are super short or super sedentary. I had to become more active to buy myself a few more calories. I found increasing the protein and fiber in my diet helped me to feel full on fewer calories, so I could "fit in" a few more treats and nights out. Hang in there
yes your conversion is correct.
OP is about same starting weight as I was and I needed to lose 20lb to get to a BMI of 23.
OP is considerably younger than me so may want to go to a slightly lower BMI.
OP, I am slightly shorter than you and I ate net of 1460 when I was losing - I did lose slowly though at average of 1/2 lb per week, or around 1kg per month.
You should not have to eat only 1200 - you are not super short and you are 24yrs old, I doubt you are super sedentary.
But, as others have said, you do need to tighten your logging - so what you think you are eating is what you really are eating.
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Okay so to clarify I only want to lose 9lb, and I am currently around 161lb.. I don't mind about my BMI as even when I was my thinnest it said I was close to the top end of "normal" I think I must have heavy bones or something haha!! I just want to lose inches!
So if my logging is slipping and I'm eating more than 1200 then this is the problem and I need to try to log less so that my actual calories is 1200.. but people are saying to increase my calories also? I'm so conflicted haha!
I would happily lose just 1/2lb a week as my goal (dictated by a holiday) is the end of April.. but it frustrates me I seem to be losing absolutely nothing. Not 1/2lb.. 1/4lb, absolutely nada
And like I say I'm so bloated and constipated it's making me feel awful physically as well as disheartened mentally0 -
joannalouise92 wrote: »Okay so to clarify I only want to lose 9lb, and I am currently around 161lb.. I don't mind about my BMI as even when I was my thinnest it said I was close to the top end of "normal" I think I must have heavy bones or something haha!! I just want to lose inches!
So if my logging is slipping and I'm eating more than 1200 then this is the problem and I need to try to log less so that my actual calories is 1200.. but people are saying to increase my calories also? I'm so conflicted haha!
I would happily lose just 1/2lb a week as my goal (dictated by a holiday) is the end of April.. but it frustrates me I seem to be losing absolutely nothing. Not 1/2lb.. 1/4lb, absolutely nada
And like I say I'm so bloated and constipated it's making me feel awful physically as well as disheartened mentally
sort out the pooping first...
re-set your goal to lose 0.5lbs per week.
weigh and measure EVERYTHING in grams and double check the entries you're using in the database.
either weigh daily and get a trendweight app, or don't weigh more than fortnightly or monthly. i am trying to lose the last 10lbs so only weigh every couple of weeks as it's super frustrating watching the scales bounce around so much.3 -
You should definitely consider adding probiotics (yoghurts, or there are some speciality drinks) to your diet. It helps a ton. There are days where I eat around 3000+ calories, and can't imagine not incorporating them in to my diet.
As I've mentioned earlier though, make sure you log everything. 1300 calories should be good for you to lose weight, as long as you correctly weigh your ingredients etc.0 -
and i've also found that the scale wont really move if i drink mroe than one or 2 glasses of wine a week
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TavistockToad wrote: »and i've also found that the scale wont really move if i drink mroe than one or 2 glasses of wine a week
That's so sad because sometimes I like to fit a glass of wine into my daily allowance as a treat on a weekend or something!! Oh the pain
Thanks subcounter I will consider adding a probiotic0 -
joannalouise92 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »and i've also found that the scale wont really move if i drink mroe than one or 2 glasses of wine a week
That's so sad because sometimes I like to fit a glass of wine into my daily allowance as a treat on a weekend or something!! Oh the pain
i know, it just bloats me so i never weigh for a few days after a night out!0 -
I'm on an 8wk PT fitness challenge at the moment. I'm learning so much about my macronutrients and when to eat them. Nutrition is so important. However, my main point I wanted to say was, I've just done week 3 check in. So sore and following my program religiously, but have been a little confused about my weight going up and down. However, for the first time, because I have been made to do it as part of my challenge, I have to submit weekly photos and weekly measurements. I've never done this before, but can I say thank god I have, because all my measurements are coming down but my weight is up and down like a Yoyo. I know it's a combo of not drinking water consistently, muscle gain, bloated from that time of day, d calories have double from what I thought I should be on (1500) to 2300. Coming back down now.
So my suggestion to you would be, measure and photos religiously every week. This will help with the motivation for when the weight is being difficult.0 -
.... but I am taking measurements and at most I lose like 0.1 of an inch from one area and nothing from the others.. every week
Which is pretty poor. And photo wise I look exactly the same to me
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joannalouise92 wrote: ».... but I am taking measurements and at most I lose like 0.1 of an inch from one area and nothing from the others.. every week
Which is pretty poor. And photo wise I look exactly the same to me
You need consistency and patience right now! You're light already and don't have that much to lose so you won't see big changes week by week.3 -
Hi guys pretty upset as still struggling. Felt good for a while last week as my constipation had somehow relieved itself and felt lighter immediately. But I took measurements and photos yesterday, and the attached shoes my difference from one month ago (on the left) and now.. and it's absolutely nothing. Like 0.1 of an inch off my waist. I can't stand this anymore the so painful to continuously work so hard and put in so much time .. and not get any results
Has anyone experienced this?0 -
have you seen a doctor about the constipation?0
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No I haven't seen a doctor as last week it seemed fixed it's only come back today. And everyone keeps saying that my body will take time to adjust to he high fibre which I've been trying to let it do..0
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joannalouise92 wrote: »I've recently tried to lose weight this past month yet somehow it seems I'm fluctuating around the same weight constantly. In fact I'm week 1 I lost 1.5kg and then have put it all back on since then.. I don't understand.
My BMR is 1530, I've dropped my calorie intake to around 1100 daily, I've only been eating "clean" so fruit veg wholegrain, no refined sugar no alcohol.. and I've been doing a 600-700calorie cardio workout at the gym 2-3 times a week...
What am I doing wrong here?? It's so frustrating to get on the scales every week after working so hard, saying no to that glass of wine my friends are all having, no to the chips people offer to split with me.. and it seems to be having no impact!
In terms of measurements I've managed to lose only half an inch of my stomach and hips, and an inch from my waist (though that was all in week one).
Eat your calories it is telling you before you exercise. Don't increase what you eat when it tells you that you have earned more with exercise. I spent 2 months at a plateau eating the calories plus what was earned. I changes to just eating the calories before exercise and lost 5 lbs in 5 days.0 -
youre not weighing your food correctly, and eating more than you think you are1
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To clarify.. I never eat back the calories that I work off at the gym
So on a day when I do a cardio of 60 mins, I still just eat 1200 +100-200 from walking
But I try not to eat that full amount and go under that net 1200 including walking because some days I go very over on weekends for example, and I need to try to even that out over the week0 -
joannalouise92 wrote: »To clarify.. I never eat back the calories that I work off at the gym
So on a day when I do a cardio of 60 mins, I still just eat 1200 +100-200 from walking
But I try not to eat that full amount and go under that net 1200 including walking because some days I go very over on weekends for example, and I need to try to even that out over the week
I've had a quick look in your diary, and you have items measured in grams, oz and cups... do you put everything on scales?0 -
Yep measure everything in scales in grams and convert into calories online if I can't find the ingredient in grams on MFP, then work back in oz on MFP to get to the same calorie amount0
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I think then, as clearly I'm underestimating calories even when weighing, I'm going to have to aim for a lower net goal or maybe 1000
I'll stop eating back my calories from walking too
Just can't understand how gym sessions are having no impact especially when you combine it with the low calories (even if it's not as low as apparently it needs to be it's still pretty low)
Don't you think that shows there's some issue ?0 -
joannalouise92 wrote: »I think then, as clearly I'm underestimating calories even when weighing, I'm going to have to aim for a lower net goal or maybe 1000
I'll stop eating back my calories from walking too
Just can't understand how gym sessions are having no impact especially when you combine it with the low calories (even if it's not as low as apparently it needs to be it's still pretty low)
Don't you think that shows there's some issue ?
I think you are putting your body in starvation mode. The time between meals( no more than 3 hours EVER), when you eat (ie after workout equal carbs and protein grams and nothing 2 hours before cardio), fasted morning cardio before breakfast and so on may be causing problems.0
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