2000 Calorie Cheat Days
RunsOnPlants98
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Okay so right now I'm on a 1200-1300 calorie diet. I'm 5'5", 144lbs and I need to lose 15lbs by May 15th 1. Because I graduate on the 20th and 2. Because I've wanted to lose this weight for months now. I'm not super active, I run 3-4 days a week and have recently started weight training.I eat a (mostly) whole foods, vegan diet and I have not had any junk food for a month and a half. So here is the thing, I'm really quite hungry as is to be expected and I was wondering if having a 2000 calorie cheat day is okay. The problem is I had 2000 calories on Friday and 1400 yesterday. I don't normally eat more on days I exercise with yesterday as an accidental exception. I'm assuming the answer to my question is no but I wanted to ask someone other than a family member or someone who is trying to spare my feelings.
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15 pounds in three and a half months when you're already at a healthy weight is pretty aggressive. I agree with the suggestion to up your calories, but also you're expected to eat your exercise calories back.7
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Just up your daily calorie limit. You're gonna lose either way as long as you're in a deficit. 2000 calories is actually how many calories most folks eat to maintain (me included) I haven't gained a pound in almost a year without even counting my calories and literally eating whatever I want. But since in trying to lose again now I gotta go on the whole "watch what I eat" diet/not diet. The answer to your question is YES. I personally don't have cheat days. I have "treat" days (mostly on saturdays) which is where I eat a little more of something (junkfood) than normal. So instead of having half a giant Hershey bar, I'll eat the entire thing + a pizza or whatever else I want. You'll be fine and wont notice any "gains" you just may feel bloated0
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15 pounds in three and a half months when you're already at a healthy weight is pretty aggressive. I agree with the suggestion to up your calories, but also you're expected to eat your exercise calories back.
All of this. It sounds to me like your May 15 deadline has pushed you towards a weight loss goal that's too aggressive for someone who's already at a healthy weight. This is why I don't believe in or advocate weight loss deadlines.
Increase your daily calorie goal to a level that's more sustainable and you likely won't feel the need to have a 2000 calorie cheat day. Eat back at least a portion of your exercise calories, let go of the notion that your weight has to hit a specific number by May 15 and most importantly, congratulations on your upcoming graduation.3 -
I'm 5'5 and just hit 143 and it is slow going now. I'm hoping to lose the last 7-8 by May, not sure I'd be willing to cut as many cals as it would take to lose 15.0
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »I think the term "most" can be used pretty loosely here... i would gain on 2000 and im pretty active.
It's about maintenance for me1 -
15 pounds in three and a half months when you're already at a healthy weight is pretty aggressive. I agree with the suggestion to up your calories, but also you're expected to eat your exercise calories back.
Also agree with this. If you're hungry now, that isn't going to go away, especially when you include exercise. You need the extra calories to fuel your workouts. If your deficit is too high, at some point it's going to catch up with you. It's also going to be harder to stick with.
At 5'6", 165lbs. 2000 calories is pretty normal day for me, actually..wouldn't consider that "gorging" at all. I've lost weight on that, too.
Lets not confuse "need" with "want" here...I would consider dropping the deadline but keeping the overall goal. They won't be weighing you as a requirement for graduating, so you don't really "need" to lose it by then. Just eat at a moderate deficit and see where you wind up..it's still going to be lighter than you are now, and no one will be the wiser except you. After all, the overall goal is more about being healthy and keeping it off, right?2 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »I think the term "most" can be used pretty loosely here... i would gain on 2000 and im pretty active.
You'd gain on 2,000 *every day*. But a single 2,000 calorie day is hardly gorging* - nor is it going to do much harm. Worst case scenario, the person maintains on 1500 (which would be somebody really tiny with hardly any weight to lose). They'd still only be 500 calories over maintenance for the day - so, that counteracted one day's deficit (if aiming for 1 pound/week lost).
*I eat more than that almost every day. I am *not* gorging. I get that some people maintain on lower amounts, but that doesn't mean those of us who need more are pigging out.3 -
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You're already in the healthy range, so maybe try to lose 0.5lbs per week and keep up the strength training.
I had a 2100calorie day yesterday and I'll still lose/maintain because I spent a good 2 hours burning those calories that morning and I'm obese.
I personally wouldn't schedule "cheat days" simply because i might not feel i want it and other days i might, or i might have plans to do something with friends. If I've worked out and I want to go out and eat pizza and drink, I'll just try to keep it at maintenance. If you're okay with maintaining weight for awhile, eat maintenance. If you're hungry throughout the week, maybe up your calories so you don't binge from restriction. Or eat more filling foods. The idea is for this new life style change to be sustainable So don't do anything too restrictive if you're not going to enjoy it or be able to keep doing it without wanting to go off the rails.0 -
I agree with the suggestions to up your calories if you're consistently hungry. While it's all well and good to have a goal, deadlines bring stress. So you lose 9pds instead of 15, at least you weren't hungry all the time, because ultimately that's unsustainable and you obviously want to keep the weight off, right? Eat back at least half your exercise calories too (unless you have a accessory that is really accurate at telling you how much you lost - as most inflate the amount, including MFP) that should help with your hunger as well. As for the junk food, giving that up is totally up to you - as long as you're at a calorie deficit, you should be seeing some loss.3
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TavistockToad wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »I think the term "most" can be used pretty loosely here... i would gain on 2000 and im pretty active.
It's about maintenance for me
I have to wonder if we're outliers because I'm 5'3", 111 pounds and I lose weight on 2000 calories. I'm always baffled by the amount of people who have to maintain on less unless they're generally inactive.2 -
You are in a big hurry to lose a lot of weight but want to take cheat days every week. IMO, you need to decide what's more important to you.0
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Maxematics wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »I think the term "most" can be used pretty loosely here... i would gain on 2000 and im pretty active.
It's about maintenance for me
I have to wonder if we're outliers because I'm 5'3", 111 pounds and I lose weight on 2000 calories. I'm always baffled by the amount of people who have to maintain on less unless they're generally inactive.
It has to be inactivity. My maintenance is around 2300.2 -
or someone who is trying to spare my feelings.
OK kiddo. Open season. Or rather not open season. Because if I really say what I want to say the way I want to say it I will be accused (possibly correctly) of being abusive!
So you are 17-18 either growing or barely done growing at the top end of normal weight for your age group at a bmi of around 24. Yes, at age 17-18 a bmi of 24 is at the border though by 19-20 it becomes solidly normal weight.
And you are here trying to lose 6lbs a month for the next 2.5 months, a rate of 1.5lbs a week. Incidentally that was my target rate of loss after I first joined MFP and moved from ~230lbs to ~180lbs over a period of a few months.
First of all, even assuming your have 15lbs to lose, the rate of loss is utterly wrong. You will note that in my case I was obese and trying to become overweight. You are normal weight trying to move to the lower end of normal weight.
It is fast enough rate of loss that it guarantees the loss of lean mass you have no business losing. In fact anything faster than 1lb a week in your case would guarantee that.
But even 1lb a week would be too fast if you were trying to bring abound long term changes and set yourself up for the rest of your life.
But, you aren't.
You're looking at your graduation today, or your best friend's wedding tomorrow, or at an exotic vacation the day after. In each case your weight loss will be motivated by wanting to fit into your graduation gown, the best maid's dress, or a really hot bikini. And to impress everyone who will see you "that day"
So you will eat nothing, you will exercise like a bat out of hell, and you will look great for a week or two.
And you will regain all the weight you lost plus 10%. And keep doing so again and again.
Because that's what happens when your body kicks back. And 10% seems to be the approximate overage people have to hit before all their hormones and adaptations reset.
So you will spend your 20s slowly gaining more and more weight and blaming yourself for your failures till you come back here on MFP sometime in your 30's, 40's or 50's determined to finally do things right.
The usual response at this point is an eye roll with a "oh come on man, I am just trying to lose a few lbs. Big deal. Nothing thousands of women don't do every year. I just want to fit into my <insert new and expensive piece of apparel>, give me a break"
To which my answer is: "Yup. And weight watchers is really hurting for customers because these thousands of women always do the right thing!"
1. Evaluate if you need to lose weight or whether just strength training would be more appropriate.
2. Evaluate your protein levels as a (newish?) vegan and whether you are getting all essential amino acids in sufficient quantities. Especially while losing weight or trying to build muscle 2x the RDA of protein is beneficial. This is even more important if your protein intake is from protein that is harder for your body to utilise. Animal proteins are usually considered higher quality, tend to be more complete as to their amino-acid profile and tend to be more bio available.
3. Set your deficit to 0.5lbs a week. (-250 Cal). At most set it to 1lb a week and don't obsess as long as you're ending your day at a deficit of between 200 and 500. Yes, you should be eating back 100% of your actual exercise calories. Alternatively you can set yourself at maintenance and rely on exercise to provide you with a deficit leading to weight loss.
4. That's it. What exact weight you will be in a few months is of much less importance than avoiding the cycle of weight loss and regain hard dieting and excessively restrictive goals throw many young women into.12 -
@PAV8888 That was actually really helpful. I didn't find it abusive. Thank you for your advice. As for protein, I've been vegan for almost two years and talked with a nutritionist. I'm not trying to sass you but I realize it probs sounds like that. I just know that I want to be the weight I was before I got a really serious hip injury last school year and wasn't allowed to do annnything. Honestly... I used to have an eating disorder so I guess I still don't know what I'm supposed to do and I just really hate my body if I'm being 110% honest... Also, I haven't left the building, I just don't really have anything useful to say other than thank you. Trust me, I'm not THAT smart.1
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@Christine_72 I'm not inactive, I could be more active though... 3-4x a week running 3-4
Miles each time. Do you have any advice on how to up my mileage without injury? I haven't had to do that for a long time and I don't remember how to do that without hurting myself.0 -
@Christine_72 I'm not inactive, I could be more active though... 3-4x a week running 3-4
Miles each time. Do you have any advice on how to up my mileage without injury? I haven't had to do that for a long time and I don't remember how to do that without hurting myself.
Based on the advice and comments so far, I think you should look at some weightlifting. You won't get bulky, but you could get more toned and probably end up with a body you prefer at a higher weight than your goal.
I don't have anything bookmarked, but there are loads of body comparison pictures that float around here showing the difference in appearance from a weigh-lifting program. See if you can find them and see if that is more the result you want. Just be aware it takes a long time to achieve.1 -
I think your plan sounds fine. You could up your daily calories a bit if you want, but you could also up your weekly calories by doing exactly what you describe in your OP - eat 1200-1300 except for one day a week where you eat 2000.
That averages out to 1314-1400 calories per day on average. You should be able to meet your goal with this plan.0 -
@Christine_72 I'm not inactive, I could be more active though... 3-4x a week running 3-4
Miles each time. Do you have any advice on how to up my mileage without injury? I haven't had to do that for a long time and I don't remember how to do that without hurting myself.
Walking? I have a fitbit and do at least 15k (10km) steps everyday. I've never run in my life, walking gives me plenty of extra calories. I've been doing this daily for 2 years, and have never had an injury other than a couple broken toes from not looking where i was going while walking and reading my phone aka the mfp forums.1 -
@Christine_72 I'm not inactive, I could be more active though... 3-4x a week running 3-4
Miles each time. Do you have any advice on how to up my mileage without injury? I haven't had to do that for a long time and I don't remember how to do that without hurting myself.
Increase your mileage by 10% per week1
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