Eggs and Cholesterol
hensue11
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For those who have high or borderline cholesterol problems have you eliminated eggs/yolks, has it made a difference, I ask because I am seeing eggs have no effect on blood cholesterol.....or did you just cut back
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For most people (a little over 2/3 of the general population from what I've read) dietary cholesterol has only a minimal effect on blood cholesterol levels. For the rest, it can have a significant effect. Unfortunately, the only way to know which group you are in is through dietary changes and routine blood work.4
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I started dieting due to the fact that I had high LDL and low HDL cholesterol...I rarely ate eggs before I started dieting...I started eating a couple of eggs most days for breakfast when I started dieting and have been doing so for about 4.5 years now. LDL went from 160s to 90 in about 9 months of dieting...all the while eating eggs.
For the vast majority, dietary cholesterol has no significant bearing on blood serum levels...our liver makes more than we could ever eat.
I attribute my reduction in LDL and increase in HDL to be a bi-product of an all around healthier diet that substantially revolves around whole foods (which an egg is) and minimally processed foods...a reduction in "junk" and highly processed foods...getting my 6 servings of veg and fruit most days, eating more complex carbohydrates like oats, lentils, beans, etc and dropping 40 Lbs and getting regular exercise.
I eat eggs...I eat meat (beef and pork)...I eat poultry...I eat a lot of fish as well, including shell fish which are high in dietary cholesterol.13 -
When I was eating a SAD diet my cholesterol was borderlining high. When I went vegetarian it went down to ideal levels I didn't really eat eggs much either way. I have stopped eating them altogether.0
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Ironically, when I first started dieting, I increase egg consumption (about 4-6 a day) and as I lost weight, my cholesterol improved. Now I average 9-15 eggs + another 12 ish egg whites a week. I mainly use them on my low carb days and cook with them.5
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littlechiaseed wrote: »When I was eating a SAD diet my cholesterol was borderlining high. When I went vegetarian it went down to ideal levels I didn't really eat eggs much either way. I have stopped eating them altogether.
Not eating eggs *is* sad!
My story is I wanted to lower my cholesterol and was testing the theory that eating eggs would help (I got the idea from someone on another message board) so I started eating one or two eggs along with some egg whites every day while not changing anything else in my diet or exercise routine other than the 100ish calories from other food the eggs were replacing. And, yup, down went my numbers.
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Thanks everyone, I see they affect everyone differently eh, will have to experiment.2
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Thanks everyone, I see they affect everyone differently eh, will have to experiment.
Just make sure you follow up with your doctor and see if you can get blood test more often. A few things that has been highly correlated with improving metabolic markers (outside of weight loss and exercise) is unsaturated fats Omega3 (Fish), MUFA (nuts non hydrogenated oils), and fiber (fruits and veggies).3 -
littlechiaseed wrote: »When I was eating a SAD diet my cholesterol was borderlining high. When I went vegetarian it went down to ideal levels I didn't really eat eggs much either way. I have stopped eating them altogether.
Not eating eggs *is* sad!
My story is I wanted to lower my cholesterol and was testing the theory that eating eggs would help (I got the idea from someone on another message board) so I started eating one or two eggs along with some egg whites every day while not changing anything else in my diet or exercise routine other than the 100ish calories from other food the eggs were replacing. And, yup, down went my numbers.
Eggs always gave me a stomach ache, no loss and the more I thought about the grosser the concept of eating them
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As already stated, dietary cholesterol does not affect cholesterol levels. Carbohydrate levels have a more direct effect.
Some good books on cholesterol and heart health are Cholesterol Clarity, The Great Cholesterol Myth, and the Cholesterol Con
Edited to add that high fat or cholesterol diets actually will be a problem for those with familial hypercholesterolemia. It isn't very common though.0 -
As already stated, dietary cholesterol does not affect cholesterol levels. Carbohydrate levels have a more direct effect.
Some good books on cholesterol and heart health are Cholesterol Clarity, The Great Cholesterol Myth, and the Cholesterol Con
Edited to add that high fat or cholesterol diets actually will be a problem for those with familial hypercholesterolemia. It isn't very common though.
There are plenty of carbohydrates that reduce cholesterol (fruits, veggies, oats to name a few) and just like MUFA and omega 3s. Carbs in general do not increase metabolic markers. Higher levels of ultra processed/low nutrient foods (which tend to be high in fats and sugars), along with weight gain and inactivity have the largest impact.3 -
As already stated, dietary cholesterol does not affect cholesterol levels. Carbohydrate levels have a more direct effect.
Some good books on cholesterol and heart health are Cholesterol Clarity, The Great Cholesterol Myth, and the Cholesterol Con
Edited to add that high fat or cholesterol diets actually will be a problem for those with familial hypercholesterolemia. It isn't very common though.
There are plenty of carbohydrates that reduce cholesterol (fruits, veggies, oats to name a few) and just like MUFA and omega 3s. Carbs in general do not increase metabolic markers. Higher levels of ultra processed/low nutrient foods (which tend to be high in fats and sugars), along with weight gain and inactivity have the largest impact.
I agree that refined carbs are the worst for metabolic markers but high levels of carbs will affect them too, as a general rule.1 -
As already stated, dietary cholesterol does not affect cholesterol levels. Carbohydrate levels have a more direct effect.
Some good books on cholesterol and heart health are Cholesterol Clarity, The Great Cholesterol Myth, and the Cholesterol Con
Edited to add that high fat or cholesterol diets actually will be a problem for those with familial hypercholesterolemia. It isn't very common though.
There are plenty of carbohydrates that reduce cholesterol (fruits, veggies, oats to name a few) and just like MUFA and omega 3s. Carbs in general do not increase metabolic markers. Higher levels of ultra processed/low nutrient foods (which tend to be high in fats and sugars), along with weight gain and inactivity have the largest impact.
I agree that refined carbs are the worst for metabolic markers but high levels of carbs will affect them too, as a general rule.
I am sure many vegans/vegetarians will disagree with you. Many carbs have already been proven to reduce cholesterol.5 -
littlechiaseed wrote: »When I was eating a SAD diet my cholesterol was borderlining high. When I went vegetarian it went down to ideal levels I didn't really eat eggs much either way. I have stopped eating them altogether.
Not eating eggs *is* sad!
My story is I wanted to lower my cholesterol and was testing the theory that eating eggs would help (I got the idea from someone on another message board) so I started eating one or two eggs along with some egg whites every day while not changing anything else in my diet or exercise routine other than the 100ish calories from other food the eggs were replacing. And, yup, down went my numbers.
Another one who eats an egg every day along with some whites whose numbers went down. And I have familial hypercholesterolemia.
It was losing weight and starting to exercise that improved my numbers. I should also add that I eat plenty of carbs.2 -
thanks everyone....0
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As already stated, dietary cholesterol does not affect cholesterol levels. Carbohydrate levels have a more direct effect.
Some good books on cholesterol and heart health are Cholesterol Clarity, The Great Cholesterol Myth, and the Cholesterol Con
Edited to add that high fat or cholesterol diets actually will be a problem for those with familial hypercholesterolemia. It isn't very common though.
There are plenty of carbohydrates that reduce cholesterol (fruits, veggies, oats to name a few) and just like MUFA and omega 3s. Carbs in general do not increase metabolic markers. Higher levels of ultra processed/low nutrient foods (which tend to be high in fats and sugars), along with weight gain and inactivity have the largest impact.
I agree that refined carbs are the worst for metabolic markers but high levels of carbs will affect them too, as a general rule.
I am sure many vegans/vegetarians will disagree with you. Many carbs have already been proven to reduce cholesterol.
Some will. Probably those eating a LOT of veggies. Those eating lots of grains and sugars, probably not so much.0 -
As already stated, dietary cholesterol does not affect cholesterol levels. Carbohydrate levels have a more direct effect.
Some good books on cholesterol and heart health are Cholesterol Clarity, The Great Cholesterol Myth, and the Cholesterol Con
Edited to add that high fat or cholesterol diets actually will be a problem for those with familial hypercholesterolemia. It isn't very common though.
There are plenty of carbohydrates that reduce cholesterol (fruits, veggies, oats to name a few) and just like MUFA and omega 3s. Carbs in general do not increase metabolic markers. Higher levels of ultra processed/low nutrient foods (which tend to be high in fats and sugars), along with weight gain and inactivity have the largest impact.
I agree that refined carbs are the worst for metabolic markers but high levels of carbs will affect them too, as a general rule.
I am sure many vegans/vegetarians will disagree with you. Many carbs have already been proven to reduce cholesterol.
Some will. Probably those eating a LOT of veggies. Those eating lots of grains and sugars, probably not so much.
No different than those eating tons of sfa and transfats. Refined grains and added sugars wont improve things. But plenty of carbs are highly beneficial to cholesterol. So singling out carbs in whole is misguided. And just as bad as singling our fat. The types of food is what matters. Limiting refined grains and fried fatty foods, along with losing weight and exercise is what will be most beneficial.
ETA: there are foods in both categories proven to lower cholesterol: MUFA and Omega 3, and oatmeal, fibrous carbs (which includes unrefined whole grains).2 -
As already stated, dietary cholesterol does not affect cholesterol levels. Carbohydrate levels have a more direct effect.
Some good books on cholesterol and heart health are Cholesterol Clarity, The Great Cholesterol Myth, and the Cholesterol Con
Edited to add that high fat or cholesterol diets actually will be a problem for those with familial hypercholesterolemia. It isn't very common though.
yeah I have FH and was told to avoid eggs as much as I can but I could have the whites. I eat a lot of carbs (including grains,breads,etc) and with meds and eating a low fat low cholesterol diet my numbers have come way down. I have normal triglycerides now,never had normal ones before even on a low fat low cholesterol diet with meds(I was thin then too) the more fats and cholesterol I eat the higher my levels were. before I knew I had FH(thought I just had high cholesterol) I was trying lower carb and higher fat. yeah that was not a good idea.
in those of us with FH our liver cannot process fats and cholesterol like other people. so it gets stored and our liver signals for our bodies to produce more cholesterol. we can end up with clogged arteries and end up having a heart attack/stroke,etc in our 50s or sooner.kids who have this can have one at any time.and yes FH is more common than you think ,its just often misdiagnosed.so if you have cholesterol issues that run in your family its best to get tested and have a genetic test to look for the markers as its a genetic defect.
There are two forms of FH. If you have inherited this genetic mutation from one parent, then you will have Heterozygous FH (HeFH). HeFH occurs in 1 in 250 people worldwide. If you inherit FH from both parents, it is much more severe in its consequences. This form of FH is called Homozygous FH (HoFH). It is very rare, occurring in about 1 in 160,000 to one million people worldwide.
FH is even more common in certain populations such as French Canadians, Ashkenazi Jews, Lebanese, and South African Afrikaners. In these populations FH may be found as frequently as 1 in every 67 people.4 -
As already stated, dietary cholesterol does not affect cholesterol levels. Carbohydrate levels have a more direct effect.
Some good books on cholesterol and heart health are Cholesterol Clarity, The Great Cholesterol Myth, and the Cholesterol Con
Edited to add that high fat or cholesterol diets actually will be a problem for those with familial hypercholesterolemia. It isn't very common though.
My new PCP just told me about the relationship between carbs and higher cholesterol. I'd had a higher than normal test and we were discussing my diet.
I can't say for sure that is the case. I will admit when I went from losing to maintaining I needed an extra 500 calories daily. Seemed pretty reasonable to add 300 calories of Ben and Jerry’s and 200 calories of Brookside chocolates. Quite a load of processed carbs and saturated fat.0 -
markrgeary1 wrote: »As already stated, dietary cholesterol does not affect cholesterol levels. Carbohydrate levels have a more direct effect.
Some good books on cholesterol and heart health are Cholesterol Clarity, The Great Cholesterol Myth, and the Cholesterol Con
Edited to add that high fat or cholesterol diets actually will be a problem for those with familial hypercholesterolemia. It isn't very common though.
My new PCP just told me about the relationship between carbs and higher cholesterol. I'd had a higher than normal test and we
for some high carbs may make cholesterol rise. but there are days I have over 200g or carbs and even with FH I have no issues. but its not a once size fits all when it comes to cholesterol. you will just have to see what works for you.
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familial hypercholesterolemia - what is this? and how do you have it?0
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familial hypercholesterolemia - what is this? and how do you have it?
its a genetic defect that is hereditary . it causes high cholesterol/triglycerides levels in the blood. my liver doesnt process fats and cholesterol like a normal person does.my liver will signal for my body to make more cholesterol.and it will also store excess fats and cholesterol in my body in the form on xanthomas and xanthelasmas.I have "fat pads" on my ankles and on one knee due to this. they are slowly getting better though. I have to eat low fat and be on meds. my cholesterol no matter what diet I followed was always too high,now for the first time in over 15years I have a normal triglyceride level.some of my other numbers are high but it a healthier range. for me it can cause heart attacks,strokes,TIAs If I dont watch my diet and take meds.
if you have been diagnosed with high cholesterol and its high even with diet/exercise,its best to get a genetic test to make sure its not FH.FH is sometimes just misdiagnosed as just high cholesterol. Im just glad I found out sooner than later. I knew I had high cholesterol but had no idea it was FH back then.Im feeling better too.you can look it up and read more about it. https://thefhfoundation.org/about-fh/what-is-fh0 -
Thank you CharlieBeans0
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