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I have been using measuring cups to portion my food but I've read here that it's not too accurate? I'm scared to get one thinking I will have to eat even less food ahhhh.
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  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,565 Member
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    You'll likely end up eating less food, but you'll know that you're eating exactly how much you say you are.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=XpHykP6e_Uk
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
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    Personally, I use a food scale because I find it faster and easier than measuring cups/spoons. But it really comes down to what you need. Some people do great with measuring cups. Others don't.

    I'll just drop these video examples here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY

    https://youtu.be/vjKPIcI51lU

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=XpHykP6e_Uk
  • CassondraKennedy
    CassondraKennedy Posts: 229 Member
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    Sometimes you get more! Plus, it takes all the guess work and worry out of it - for me, anyway. If your estimations are sufficient, you should lose weight without a scale. But if not, you probably won't see the scale move. Maybe wait to see if you need one?
  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,053 Member
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    It really depends on your situation. If you have a lot to lose and have a big deficit, meh, estimating is fine. A big deficit covers inaccuracies here & there. If you are close to goal with a razor thin deficit and no margin for error, the scale is your friend.

    It will save you trouble, however, no matter what your goal is. No cups to wash and I didn't realize how much estimating I was doing until I got the scale.... so easy. Plus half the time you might get MORE food. I saw my daughter using a measuring cup for granola, and I know I should have just left her alone, but I couldn't. So on the scale her dish went and more granola for her.

    Seriously, though, there's no good reason to hide truth from yourself.
  • clags301
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    You after get more. Like avocado!
  • TimothyFish
    TimothyFish Posts: 4,925 Member
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    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.
  • jbarry1506
    jbarry1506 Posts: 1,512 Member
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    I love using a food scale and it's great for meal prepping. You can create a recipe, divide it out into 4 portions and make a couple different things for the week. If you get a friend to do it with you, you have 4 different meals to choose from, you won't get bored with your food selection, and you always know what you're eating.
  • courtneyfabulous
    courtneyfabulous Posts: 1,863 Member
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    You'll end up eating what you intend, instead of kinda sorta what you think might be whatever amount. Get the scale!!
  • TimothyFish
    TimothyFish Posts: 4,925 Member
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    SezxyStef wrote: »
    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.

    that's great for those who have bathroom scales...or have an idea of what 4oz of meat...

    and there is no way if you are using a food scale correctly that you could cause yourself to be further from an accurate calorie count...and the variations you speak of are not big enough to cause worry...

    OP a scale may mean more food too...ie a serving size in cups of cereal vs the weight is a case where you get less...cottage cheese you get more.

    and the bolded is just so telling...I know there is a typo in there but I wonder if it wasn't your brain doing it on purpose...*smirks*

    ETA: and I would rather not have to wait for it to show up on the bathroom scale and that is why a food scale is a better option.

    How much does a calorie weigh?

    When you weigh your food and then convert that into a calorie count, you are assuming that the calories per gram in food of that type is a constant. This is not the case. You can literally take 4oz of meat from two cows with the same mother and raised in the same field and find a significant difference in the number of calories.

    You mention that you get more cottage cheese if you use a scale rather than a measuring cup. There's a reason for this and it is one that nullifies your claim that a kitchen scale won't cause greater inaccuracies. When the calorie count for cottage cheese is calculated they include the whey along with the curds. When you scoop out cottage cheese you tend to leave the whey behind. The whey is mostly water, so it doesn't add as many calories but it adds significant weight. The curds will record a lower number on the scale, but they contain more of the calories, resulting in logging more calories than are indicated by the weight.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
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    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.

    Can you elaborate on this:

    1) How would weighing your food cause you eat less of one food but more of others?

    2) How can digestion change the caloric value of the food ingested?
  • Blitzia
    Blitzia Posts: 205 Member
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    Can you elaborate on this:

    1) How would weighing your food cause you eat less of one food but more of others?

    Cups and spoons are inaccurate measures, but everyone seems to preach that you will always OVER estimate instead of underestimate. I don't think that's a guarantee for every food. For any food that you were underestimating, if you switch to a food scale, you'll now be eating the real serving size, which is more food and more calories.

    More accurate only means less food or less calories if you assume you were overestimating every single thing you eat.

    For the OP, it may not be as dramatic as you think. I've done both and for some things (meat, cheese) it was pretty identical. For others, like trying to get one ounce of Greek Yogurt, the measuring spoon was giving me way too much. (But then with things like one ounce of Greek Yogurt, I don't think it's worth stressing yourself out over a ~10 calorie difference.)

    I think food scales work great for some people, and for other people they don't make a huge difference. I agree with TimothyFish in that if I'm happy with my progress on the scale, I'm not going to sweat it if my foods are off by a tenth of an ounce.
  • TimothyFish
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    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.

    Can you elaborate on this:

    1) How would weighing your food cause you eat less of one food but more of others?

    2) How can digestion change the caloric value of the food ingested?

    The first has already been addressed, so I won't belabor that, but I'll say something about the second.

    There are a couple of ways that food companies determine what to put on their labels. One is by grinding the food to a pulp, removing the water, and then burning it to see how much energy is given off. The other is doing an analysis of what the food is made of and then matching those up with the calories for each one. We all know that wood gives off energy when you burn it. Back in the 80's there was something of an uproar when people discovered that bread companies were using wood in their recipes for high-fiber bread. Why? Because even though wood has a lot of calories the human body doesn't digest it very well. It exits the body in much the same state as it went in. So the food calories would be lower than indicated by burning the bread.

    Consider carrots. 0.41 calories per gram. If you grind it to a pulp so that it is easy to digest you would likely get every one of those calories and maybe more. But suppose you chopped the carrot up into pea size pieces and you swallowed those without chewing. These wouldn't digest as easily and portions of them might make it through your system without being fully digested. So the same type of food having the same weight would yield a different number of food calories because of the way digestion works.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.

    Can you elaborate on this:

    1) How would weighing your food cause you eat less of one food but more of others?

    2) How can digestion change the caloric value of the food ingested?

    The first has already been addressed, so I won't belabor that, but I'll say something about the second.

    There are a couple of ways that food companies determine what to put on their labels. One is by grinding the food to a pulp, removing the water, and then burning it to see how much energy is given off. The other is doing an analysis of what the food is made of and then matching those up with the calories for each one. We all know that wood gives off energy when you burn it. Back in the 80's there was something of an uproar when people discovered that bread companies were using wood in their recipes for high-fiber bread. Why? Because even though wood has a lot of calories the human body doesn't digest it very well. It exits the body in much the same state as it went in. So the food calories would be lower than indicated by burning the bread.

    Consider carrots. 0.41 calories per gram. If you grind it to a pulp so that it is easy to digest you would likely get every one of those calories and maybe more. But suppose you chopped the carrot up into pea size pieces and you swallowed those without chewing. These wouldn't digest as easily and portions of them might make it through your system without being fully digested. So the same type of food having the same weight would yield a different number of food calories because of the way digestion works.


    wow really??? I had a response typed out but had to delete it...the strike I would get for it just isn't worth it.

    But I will say this...moot and inane this post is.

    OP scales are more accurate period.

    If you want assurances that when you step on the scale it will go down getting a food scale for use is a good idea...if you aren't that concerned continue with the cups etc...

    I have a scale bought it in 2013...still use it for logging and cooking.
  • cmtigger
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    SezxyStef wrote: »
    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.

    that's great for those who have bathroom scales...or have an idea of what 4oz of meat...

    and there is no way if you are using a food scale correctly that you could cause yourself to be further from an accurate calorie count...and the variations you speak of are not big enough to cause worry...

    OP a scale may mean more food too...ie a serving size in cups of cereal vs the weight is a case where you get less...cottage cheese you get more.

    and the bolded is just so telling...I know there is a typo in there but I wonder if it wasn't your brain doing it on purpose...*smirks*

    ETA: and I would rather not have to wait for it to show up on the bathroom scale and that is why a food scale is a better option.

    How much does a calorie weigh?

    When you weigh your food and then convert that into a calorie count, you are assuming that the calories per gram in food of that type is a constant. This is not the case. You can literally take 4oz of meat from two cows with the same mother and raised in the same field and find a significant difference in the number of calories.

    You mention that you get more cottage cheese if you use a scale rather than a measuring cup. There's a reason for this and it is one that nullifies your claim that a kitchen scale won't cause greater inaccuracies. When the calorie count for cottage cheese is calculated they include the whey along with the curds. When you scoop out cottage cheese you tend to leave the whey behind. The whey is mostly water, so it doesn't add as many calories but it adds significant weight. The curds will record a lower number on the scale, but they contain more of the calories, resulting in logging more calories than are indicated by the weight.

    IIRC, cottage cheese has most of whey drained and they mix in a little milk or cream for creaminess.
  • TimothyFish
    TimothyFish Posts: 4,925 Member
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    SezxyStef wrote: »
    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.

    Can you elaborate on this:

    1) How would weighing your food cause you eat less of one food but more of others?

    2) How can digestion change the caloric value of the food ingested?

    The first has already been addressed, so I won't belabor that, but I'll say something about the second.

    There are a couple of ways that food companies determine what to put on their labels. One is by grinding the food to a pulp, removing the water, and then burning it to see how much energy is given off. The other is doing an analysis of what the food is made of and then matching those up with the calories for each one. We all know that wood gives off energy when you burn it. Back in the 80's there was something of an uproar when people discovered that bread companies were using wood in their recipes for high-fiber bread. Why? Because even though wood has a lot of calories the human body doesn't digest it very well. It exits the body in much the same state as it went in. So the food calories would be lower than indicated by burning the bread.

    Consider carrots. 0.41 calories per gram. If you grind it to a pulp so that it is easy to digest you would likely get every one of those calories and maybe more. But suppose you chopped the carrot up into pea size pieces and you swallowed those without chewing. These wouldn't digest as easily and portions of them might make it through your system without being fully digested. So the same type of food having the same weight would yield a different number of food calories because of the way digestion works.


    wow really??? I had a response typed out but had to delete it...the strike I would get for it just isn't worth it.

    But I will say this...moot and inane this post is.

    OP scales are more accurate period.

    If you want assurances that when you step on the scale it will go down getting a food scale for use is a good idea...if you aren't that concerned continue with the cups etc...

    I have a scale bought it in 2013...still use it for logging and cooking.

    Without begging the question, can you show that the calorie count on food that you weigh is more accurate than on food that you measure with a cup?
    cmtigger wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.

    that's great for those who have bathroom scales...or have an idea of what 4oz of meat...

    and there is no way if you are using a food scale correctly that you could cause yourself to be further from an accurate calorie count...and the variations you speak of are not big enough to cause worry...

    OP a scale may mean more food too...ie a serving size in cups of cereal vs the weight is a case where you get less...cottage cheese you get more.

    and the bolded is just so telling...I know there is a typo in there but I wonder if it wasn't your brain doing it on purpose...*smirks*

    ETA: and I would rather not have to wait for it to show up on the bathroom scale and that is why a food scale is a better option.

    How much does a calorie weigh?

    When you weigh your food and then convert that into a calorie count, you are assuming that the calories per gram in food of that type is a constant. This is not the case. You can literally take 4oz of meat from two cows with the same mother and raised in the same field and find a significant difference in the number of calories.

    You mention that you get more cottage cheese if you use a scale rather than a measuring cup. There's a reason for this and it is one that nullifies your claim that a kitchen scale won't cause greater inaccuracies. When the calorie count for cottage cheese is calculated they include the whey along with the curds. When you scoop out cottage cheese you tend to leave the whey behind. The whey is mostly water, so it doesn't add as many calories but it adds significant weight. The curds will record a lower number on the scale, but they contain more of the calories, resulting in logging more calories than are indicated by the weight.

    IIRC, cottage cheese has most of whey drained and they mix in a little milk or cream for creaminess.

    The concept is still the same. By weight milk contains fewer calories than the curds, so anyone who weighs the curds without the milk will get more calories per gram than what is listed on the package.
  • cmtigger
    cmtigger Posts: 1,450 Member
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    SezxyStef wrote: »
    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.

    Can you elaborate on this:

    1) How would weighing your food cause you eat less of one food but more of others?

    2) How can digestion change the caloric value of the food ingested?

    The first has already been addressed, so I won't belabor that, but I'll say something about the second.

    There are a couple of ways that food companies determine what to put on their labels. One is by grinding the food to a pulp, removing the water, and then burning it to see how much energy is given off. The other is doing an analysis of what the food is made of and then matching those up with the calories for each one. We all know that wood gives off energy when you burn it. Back in the 80's there was something of an uproar when people discovered that bread companies were using wood in their recipes for high-fiber bread. Why? Because even though wood has a lot of calories the human body doesn't digest it very well. It exits the body in much the same state as it went in. So the food calories would be lower than indicated by burning the bread.

    Consider carrots. 0.41 calories per gram. If you grind it to a pulp so that it is easy to digest you would likely get every one of those calories and maybe more. But suppose you chopped the carrot up into pea size pieces and you swallowed those without chewing. These wouldn't digest as easily and portions of them might make it through your system without being fully digested. So the same type of food having the same weight would yield a different number of food calories because of the way digestion works.


    wow really??? I had a response typed out but had to delete it...the strike I would get for it just isn't worth it.

    But I will say this...moot and inane this post is.

    OP scales are more accurate period.

    If you want assurances that when you step on the scale it will go down getting a food scale for use is a good idea...if you aren't that concerned continue with the cups etc...

    I have a scale bought it in 2013...still use it for logging and cooking.

    Without begging the question, can you show that the calorie count on food that you weigh is more accurate than on food that you measure with a cup?
    cmtigger wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.

    that's great for those who have bathroom scales...or have an idea of what 4oz of meat...

    and there is no way if you are using a food scale correctly that you could cause yourself to be further from an accurate calorie count...and the variations you speak of are not big enough to cause worry...

    OP a scale may mean more food too...ie a serving size in cups of cereal vs the weight is a case where you get less...cottage cheese you get more.

    and the bolded is just so telling...I know there is a typo in there but I wonder if it wasn't your brain doing it on purpose...*smirks*

    ETA: and I would rather not have to wait for it to show up on the bathroom scale and that is why a food scale is a better option.

    How much does a calorie weigh?

    When you weigh your food and then convert that into a calorie count, you are assuming that the calories per gram in food of that type is a constant. This is not the case. You can literally take 4oz of meat from two cows with the same mother and raised in the same field and find a significant difference in the number of calories.

    You mention that you get more cottage cheese if you use a scale rather than a measuring cup. There's a reason for this and it is one that nullifies your claim that a kitchen scale won't cause greater inaccuracies. When the calorie count for cottage cheese is calculated they include the whey along with the curds. When you scoop out cottage cheese you tend to leave the whey behind. The whey is mostly water, so it doesn't add as many calories but it adds significant weight. The curds will record a lower number on the scale, but they contain more of the calories, resulting in logging more calories than are indicated by the weight.

    IIRC, cottage cheese has most of whey drained and they mix in a little milk or cream for creaminess.

    The concept is still the same. By weight milk contains fewer calories than the curds, so anyone who weighs the curds without the milk will get more calories per gram than what is listed on the package.

    I'm not sure what cottage cheese you are buying, but mine doesn't have enough liquid to leave a bunch, if any, behind.
  • rileysowner
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    SezxyStef wrote: »
    As long as you are losing weight, it doesn't matter if you use one or not. People on here assume that by more accurately knowing the quantity of food they will add accuracy to their calorie counts. The irony is that if a scale would cause you to eat less of one food but more of others that you could actually move yourself farther from the correct calorie count. This is because there is much variation in food and even the way we digest food can result in a different calorie count than is on the label.

    Some people love to weigh their food. They get a kick out of recording details. The rest of us are better of just assuming that we'll have inaccuracies and adjust our eating based on what we see on the bathroom scale instead of the kitchen scale.

    that's great for those who have bathroom scales...or have an idea of what 4oz of meat...

    and there is no way if you are using a food scale correctly that you could cause yourself to be further from an accurate calorie count...and the variations you speak of are not big enough to cause worry...

    OP a scale may mean more food too...ie a serving size in cups of cereal vs the weight is a case where you get less...cottage cheese you get more.

    and the bolded is just so telling...I know there is a typo in there but I wonder if it wasn't your brain doing it on purpose...*smirks*

    ETA: and I would rather not have to wait for it to show up on the bathroom scale and that is why a food scale is a better option.

    How much does a calorie weigh?

    When you weigh your food and then convert that into a calorie count, you are assuming that the calories per gram in food of that type is a constant. This is not the case. You can literally take 4oz of meat from two cows with the same mother and raised in the same field and find a significant difference in the number of calories.

    You mention that you get more cottage cheese if you use a scale rather than a measuring cup. There's a reason for this and it is one that nullifies your claim that a kitchen scale won't cause greater inaccuracies. When the calorie count for cottage cheese is calculated they include the whey along with the curds. When you scoop out cottage cheese you tend to leave the whey behind. The whey is mostly water, so it doesn't add as many calories but it adds significant weight. The curds will record a lower number on the scale, but they contain more of the calories, resulting in logging more calories than are indicated by the weight.

    I personally scoop out whey with the cottage cheese, and more often than not eat the whole container full anyway.