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I keep yoyoing feeling really miserable anyone solve they're yoyoing ?

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29 years of yoyoing
Yes I know how to lose weight just seem to reach for food when life gets tough
Alcoholic voilent father
Alcoholic ex husband
Cheating controlling ex partner
Fertility treatment
Late baby loss
Hemoraghing
Intensive care
Aged 47!ive had CBT Counselling hypnotherapy
In October I was a uk size 12 so a US 10
Today I'm back to a UK 16 - 18
My friend said I feel for you you lose weight gain it back quick I can see how quick you gain it ( days her who's also gained 16lbs)
I'm seriously considering gastric surgery anyone got over yoyoing I'm feeling really sad today
No bashing please
Yes I know how to lose weight just seem to reach for food when life gets tough
Alcoholic voilent father
Alcoholic ex husband
Cheating controlling ex partner
Fertility treatment
Late baby loss
Hemoraghing
Intensive care
Aged 47!ive had CBT Counselling hypnotherapy
In October I was a uk size 12 so a US 10
Today I'm back to a UK 16 - 18
My friend said I feel for you you lose weight gain it back quick I can see how quick you gain it ( days her who's also gained 16lbs)
I'm seriously considering gastric surgery anyone got over yoyoing I'm feeling really sad today

No bashing please
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You have to reach for other things than food when you aren't hungry.
You also need to eat well when you are hungry.
It's that simple. Not easy, but simple.
Get counseling, but you still have to eat less. Gastric sugery is just forcing you to eat less.0 -
Im sorry you are having a rough day. I, too have struggled with this and have no idea how to make it better. I also have a perfection mindset so sometimes I think if I can't be perfect in calories or workouts then I don't even try. I am learning that if I work out but have a bad eating day, at least I worked out instead of having a bad day at both. It may not get me anywhere quickly but it also doesn't have me gaining more.
I dont encourage the gastric bypass. Im not sure it will be successful for those of us that deal with such drastic emotional eating because it is just a bandaid but you can still gain the weight back and I think it is even more dangerous if we do.1 -
I just want to say it's really tough, especially when dealing with difficult things like you mention above. But you're so far from being alone. Many, many of us have dealt with yo yo dieting, and there are many people on here who have escaped from the cycle. I've not reached my goal weight, but I'm doing much better than previously. Here are the things I have learned:
- If you have things which are upsetting you and getting in your way, you need to tackle those. Stress eating and emotional eating are just symptoms, and you need to tackle the cause first. That might mean therapy (you mentioned CBT so you've started that process), it might mean tackling something in your circumstances that needs to be changed, it might mean setting strong boundaries with troublesome people, giving yourself time to grieve losses - take all these things seriously as the first step.
- if you are in a cycle of restricting your food (maybe you think of this as "being good") and then letting go and having large binges, you need to tackle this, and the first step is not to stop binging (you don't have much control over that) but to stop over-restricting and work on developing a healthy relationship with food, feeding yourself regularly and adequately and really giving your body what it needs in terms of calories and nutrients. I highly recommend the site Half Size Me for loads of great advice on tackling binging, and the podcast back catalogue of interviews with people who have struggled and overcome binging is an absolute treasure trove.
- Many people, myself included, find that totally cutting out foods or labelling foods as "good" or "bad" is completely counterproductive and encourages binging, as the "bad foods" end up in a pedestal and become irresistible.
- similarly, trying to "pay back" overeating with exercise is counterproductive. It's almost impossible to do, for a start (it's quite easy to eat a thousand calories but almost impossible to burn that off in a single workout) and more importantly, it feeds into the binge-restrict cycle and just compounds the whole problem. If you overeat, accept in and move on. This can be incredibly powerful.
- In general, attaching moral ideas and self-worth to your eating is unhealthy and makes it much harder to develop a good relationship with food. Binging does not make you bad or worthless, restricting does not make you good or admirable. Food is just food - nothing more, nothing less - and you are worth the effort of feeding yourself well and staying healthy.
I hope some of this helps you and I hope you really take on board that you are not alone with this, and that it is possible to overcome it and develop a healthy way of eating. You can do this!6 -
Thankyou for a lovely reply
Tbh I've done it all ways it's 29 years of yoyoing but I will succeed
Well done to you0 -
kommodevaran wrote: »You have to reach for other things than food when you aren't hungry.
You also need to eat well when you are hungry.
It's that simple. Not easy, but simple.
Get counseling, but you still have to eat less. Gastric sugery is just forcing you to eat less.
I've had counselling CBT hypnotherapy
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angelb1983 wrote: »Im sorry you are having a rough day. I, too have struggled with this and have no idea how to make it better. I also have a perfection mindset so sometimes I think if I can't be perfect in calories or workouts then I don't even try. I am learning that if I work out but have a bad eating day, at least I worked out instead of having a bad day at both. It may not get me anywhere quickly but it also doesn't have me gaining more.
I dont encourage the gastric bypass. Im not sure it will be successful for those of us that deal with such drastic emotional eating because it is just a bandaid but you can still gain the weight back and I think it is even more dangerous if we do.
Thankyou I know gastric surgery is a last resort I just feel I'm in a cycle that's never ending misery0 -
Sorry your having a hard time and have had difficult years. Gastric surgery is so permanent and so invasive it would be my very last resort, and still requires a "diet" press for the rest of your life. I am pretty happy here on mfp. I can eat all I want within my calories I will have up and downs but I log everyday and just ramble on these message boards. It helps me. You have to just keep telling yourself "Its time for me" and make it so. Find your calorie deficit and stick with it. I am going to continue on mfp and logging for life. Its my new healthier way of eating. I feel if I don't I will go back to my old habits. Even If I have a "cheat day" here or there. I make myself accountable for it by logging and in the end I will win. You can too!0
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angelb1983 wrote: »I also have a perfection mindset so sometimes I think if I can't be perfect in calories or workouts then I don't even try.
This mindset (which I used to share, and still do in other areas of my life) is incredibly destructive and if you can break out of this then you can achieve anything. Especially because it can serve as an excuse to quit logging your food and then you are back to square 1. If you possibly can (both you and OP), get into a position where you can lose your head, eat a whole tub of ice cream, then log it honestly, sigh, give yourself a hug and move on. Persistence beats perfection every time.1 -
Sorry your having a hard time and have had difficult years. Gastric surgery is so permanent and so invasive it would be my very last resort, and still requires a "diet" press for the rest of your life. I am pretty happy here on mfp. I can eat all I want within my calories I will have up and downs but I log everyday and just ramble on these message boards. It helps me. You have to just keep telling yourself "Its time for me" and make it so. Find your calorie deficit and stick with it. I am going to continue on mfp and logging for life. Its my new healthier way of eating. I feel if I don't I will go back to my old habits. Even If I have a "cheat day" here or there. I make myself accountable for it by logging and in the end I will win. You can too!
Your a billion times correct with what your are doing and saying I've been where you are loads times I'm not saying you won't continue I'm sure you will 1000% I'm saying I've done mfp a couple times 18 months I was on it 100% focused lost 70lbs logged daily exercises are great then bam life happened
Last year I was focused lost 63lbs got really ill and again I fell off the focused healthy life
I think I need a brain transplant0 -
LOL Thanks I sure do hope I continue. I'm in my so called "golden years" been this road too many times I plan to continue down new roads and keep on going.1
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Next time life happens, try just keeping logging. I completely lost it in January, could not get under my calorie goal no matter what I did. It was hard. But I decided to just keep logging anyway, in all the gory detail. It sucked, but it got me through it, and now here I am, back on track having only gained two or three pounds from the adventure.
I can lose my grip on everything, food, exercise, all of it, but if I just keep logging, I'll find my way back in the end. It's my only rule.1 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Next time life happens, try just keeping logging. I completely lost it in January, could not get under my calorie goal no matter what I did. It was hard. But I decided to just keep logging anyway, in all the gory detail. It sucked, but it got me through it, and now here I am, back on track having only gained two or three pounds from the adventure.
I can lose my grip on everything, food, exercise, all of it, but if I just keep logging, I'll find my way back in the end. It's my only rule.
Yes you are right I need to keep logging I need to realise 10lbs gain is easy compared to 30 60 to relose
Maybe I will crack it this time lol
Well done on your achievement
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LOL Thanks I sure do hope I continue. I'm in my so called "golden years" been this road too many times I plan to continue down new roads and keep on going.
my mothers 67 and still not cracked it and I really don't want to feel like this forever
You are doing great it is a struggle but nothing worth having is easily gained I think
Thankyou0 -
you are making excuses.
you can not change the past or where you've been. get therapy if you need to.
CICO is a lifestyle change. I eat what i want, i make it fit in my calorie goals. Even at 8 months on maintenance last year, I ate what i wanted, and kept my calories at ... maintenance. If you are using restrictive diets, you are not leaning how to eat in the long term, and are highly unlikely to succeed.1 -
I too always yo yo, I think its a struggle for alot of us. I don't have an easy answer. But I will say I think we deserve credit for picking ourselves up and trying yet again since not everyone does that.1
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CupcakesMom2 wrote: »I too always yo yo, I think its a struggle for alot of us. I don't have an easy answer. But I will say I think we deserve credit for picking ourselves up and trying yet again since not everyone does that.
Thanks yes it takes slot mentally to start again
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callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »you are making excuses.
you can not change the past or where you've been. get therapy if you need to.
CICO is a lifestyle change. I eat what i want, i make it fit in my calorie goals. Even at 8 months on maintenance last year, I ate what i wanted, and kept my calories at ... maintenance. If you are using restrictive diets, you are not leaning how to eat in the long term, and are highly unlikely to succeed.
Depends what you've been through in life
Watching your dad beat your mum for 10 years
Being raped aged 16
Being controlled and cheated on
Fertility problems
Nearly dying
Late baby loss
Tends to do something to you
I eat when sad I'm proud I never turned to drugs and alcohol like my father and brother
No excuse just a tough life sadly0 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »you are making excuses.
you can not change the past or where you've been. get therapy if you need to.
CICO is a lifestyle change. I eat what i want, i make it fit in my calorie goals. Even at 8 months on maintenance last year, I ate what i wanted, and kept my calories at ... maintenance. If you are using restrictive diets, you are not leaning how to eat in the long term, and are highly unlikely to succeed.
Depends what you've been through in life
Watching your dad beat your mum for 10 years
Being raped aged 16
Being controlled and cheated on
Fertility problems
Nearly dying
Late baby loss
Tends to do something to you
I eat when sad I'm proud I never turned to drugs and alcohol like my father and brother
No excuse just a tough life sadly
I got raped by my dad for years from the ages of 5 through 13 and i dont use it as an excuse...He even got me pregnant. Not to be a downer but as your forcing me to be to make my point come from someone who understands, You cant control what other people do but you CAN choose to take pride in what YOU do. Make good choices. Change your mindset. Stop blaming others. Stop feelin sorry for yourself over the past and make the best future you can. *kitten* em all. You can do it, Show em. You CHOOSE to use it as an excuse vs making you stronger. So yes, IT is a choice. Not an easy choice to make, But a choice nonetheless
Edit: i also had a heart condition that was supposed to kill me. Hadnt noticed your "nearly dieing" post. Makes me even more commited to do right by my body. I also cant have kids so...4 -
I share some of your issues, close to same age, yoyo'd about the same number of years.
This time I stopped dieting. I restrict nothing except meat for various reasons. I eat what I want and I get right back on track if I go over.
What's the difference this time? I'm doing it for ME. I have maybe 30 ish years left and I'm going to make the best of them.
One thing I tell myself is I'm not my negative thoughts and I have the power to make changes.
Best!0 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »you are making excuses.
you can not change the past or where you've been. get therapy if you need to.
CICO is a lifestyle change. I eat what i want, i make it fit in my calorie goals. Even at 8 months on maintenance last year, I ate what i wanted, and kept my calories at ... maintenance. If you are using restrictive diets, you are not leaning how to eat in the long term, and are highly unlikely to succeed.
Depends what you've been through in life
Watching your dad beat your mum for 10 years
Being raped aged 16
Being controlled and cheated on
Fertility problems
Nearly dying
Late baby loss
Tends to do something to you
I eat when sad I'm proud I never turned to drugs and alcohol like my father and brother
No excuse just a tough life sadly
I've also lived a tough life. I'm not going to go into it here but it is quite messed up. Trust me. I certainly don't want others taking pity or feeling sorry for me. You have to separate eating and the bad experiences. Also. You're alive today. You obviously fight. Don't live under your horrible experiences; rise above them. Don't make them the reason for not living the life de that YOU deserve. Those experiences should not be in the forefront of your mind. They should NOT define you or give you a green light to binge.
Get a food scale. Do some weekly food prep. Do ANYTHING it takes to be in control of something that you can change.1 -
Chiming in here. I've had a rough old life too and continue to deal with chronic, never going to go away, mental illness. I get buried under it a lot, it is not well controlled despite being 3 years post diagnosis. But I am nearly two years into this whole weight loss thing. Am I at goal? No, because last year my health was pretty terrible but as someone else said I just kept logging and you know what, I still managed to come out with a 10lb net loss.
Nearly everyone has a story. Most people who are overweight have underlying issues and use food to self medicate the way others use drugs and alcohol. You have to take the bull by the horns, make a commitment to yourself and your body and find new coping mechanisms. it's not easy, not by any means but it's the old adage, fall down 5 times get up 6.
Does my past drag me down? Sure. Does my mental illness drag me down? You betcha. But the one constant I cling to is logging my food. It's actually kind of a comfort during the rougher times, that one little piece of routine.1 -
there are people who had bypass and still gain weight cause they dont change their habits. watch 'my 600lb life'1
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there are people who had bypass and still gain weight cause they dont change their habits. watch 'my 600lb life'
I watched a couple of episodes of that and couldn't watch it again, it was too heartbreaking. It convinced me that in cases where the eating is emotionally driven, surgery is not a good option. I can see it could work if the problem was with faulty hunger signals, as that is what it addresses. But if you are already eating without being hungry, it seems to me to be solving the wrong problem.2
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