Help! What diet is best??
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courtneyfabulous wrote: »I like mostly clean eating mixed with IIFYM (tracking macros) and counting calories. But I make room for chocolate and some other treats in there too.
+1 This is how I do things as well. Having the ability to have a few treats makes it very easy1 -
The best and most successful diet I've ever been on was the one I created myself by experimenting with different types of food within my calorie range and seeing how they met the mfp nutritional goals and how satisfied I was. No rules. Just right.
Oh wait. That's the Outback Steakhouse slogan. How many calories in a bloomin' onion?6 -
Eating in moderation few times a day and being active is the key. No matter how good the food is, excess is bad. Low carb is ok but you wouldn't want to have low every day especially when you workout. Plus you don't want to tax your body. Avoid having too much fast foods, junk and you would be fine.3
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Eating in moderation few times a day and being active is the key. No matter how good the food is, excess is bad. Low carb is ok but you wouldn't want to have low every day especially when you workout. Plus you don't want to tax your body. Avoid having too much fast foods, junk and you would be fine.
Fast food may net you too many calories if you're not careful, and surely sodium you may not normally intake, but that's offset in a few days. Low carb is fine in a general context, it depends on the workout.
I'll agree with you on moderation though if meaning in the context "don't eat the entire gallon of ice cream, just have a serving that still fits in your calories". I'm not a model of health, but I eat out once and again and have ice cream, cookies, and chips and I still loose weight because I make sure I don't go over calories. There would likely be several dead bodies if I didn't get to fit those foods in (when I want and can).6 -
Eating in moderation few times a day and being active is the key. No matter how good the food is, excess is bad. Low carb is ok but you wouldn't want to have low every day especially when you workout. Plus you don't want to tax your body. Avoid having too much fast foods, junk and you would be fine.
Fast food may net you too many calories if you're not careful, and surely sodium you may not normally intake, but that's offset in a few days. Low carb is fine in a general context, it depends on the workout.
I'll agree with you on moderation though if meaning in the context "don't eat the entire gallon of ice cream, just have a serving that still fits in your calories". I'm not a model of health, but I eat out once and again and have ice cream, cookies, and chips and I still loose weight because I make sure I don't go over calories. There would likely be several dead bodies if I didn't get to fit those foods in (when I want and can).
Eating too much of anything is not good for you. I didn't say not to eat xyz. You have misread.
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »best diet is the one you can maintain for the rest of your life.
Your comment is flawed too. That is the best you can offer? You didn't answer the op q. But I couldn't care less since that is your opinion.0 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »best diet is the one you can maintain for the rest of your life.
Your comment is flawed too. That is the best you can offer? You didn't answer the op q. But I couldn't care less since that is your opinion.
Here is my final reply to this.
Your suggestion that limiting junk food and take out food would make someone "fine" does not make sense.
It makes even less sense when you then say that too much of anything isn't good for you.
Why single out junk and fast food in one post if your apparent general consensus is that all foods need to be eaten in moderation. As i pointed out in my post fast food menus can be easily fit into a calorie goal and junk food is no different either, the OP has her own lifestyle, she may love her sweets, so my advice on "The best diet is the one you can maintain for the rest of your life" isn't flawed because that tells her that her calorie goal is her calorie goal and what she chooses to do with her calories is her choice, if she wants to eat take out and junk food 1,2,3 or 7 days a week that is her call but at least with my advice im not telling her that she needs to avoid too much of one or the other, because i want her to feel like her lifestyle, whatever it may be can work to help her lose weight and reach her goal.
And lastly, My original post debating yours was in no way immature.
To personally attack my looks and my intent shows what absolute lack of character you have.
In the end the only one showing immaturity out of the two of us tonight was you.
Have a nice night.
Your confused.0 -
No food is a bad food except straight margarine or crisco (because of the trans fat... there is no redeeming quality about trans fat). They (as in food companies) have been getting better at reducing the trans fat with their chemistry mumbo-jumbo, tho. haha!
And you really can't argue that cake is "healthier" than wholesome foods. The level of health in a certain is determined by it's nutrient density. Wholesome foods have tons of vitamins, minerals, fiber, etc while cake doesn't. If you want to argue that a certain amount of cake is the same calories as certain amount of fruits, then ok. Calories are calories, just a measure of energy provided. It's fine if you want to eat at deficit in the form of cake/processed foods if your sole goal is to lose weight, but to claim it's just as healthy as wholesome foods is a far-reaching claim.
If you want long-term health and a properly functioning body, I'd recommend cake and other processed foods in moderation with wholesome foods as your everyday foods. Limiting fast food is a do-able thing to undertake to avoid extra calories and that is why people recommend that strategy. It's a legitimate strategy. I didn't see anywhere in kaizaku's post to avoid certain foods. He was recommending moderation. It seems like you guys are debating over the same thing with the same end-goal, but somehow it's just not bridging.1 -
@Look_Its_Kriss I appreciate your experience and your enthusiasm to help others, However, I take a broader look at nutrition and health rather than focusing on CICO, so that's where my posts come from. I've met many "skinny/normal BMI" persons who drink a 12-pack of soda a day and are diagnosed with everything under the sun... diabetes, heart disease, metabolic syndrome... etc. I'm sure they are taking in enough calories in soda to maintain their body weight, but isn't there room for improvement?
And I agree; personalizing debate is poor form. We can debate in a respectful manner without resorting to bashing. MFP should be a safe place.0 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »best diet is the one you can maintain for the rest of your life.
Your comment is flawed too. That is the best you can offer? You didn't answer the op q. But I couldn't care less since that is your opinion.
No, her response nailed it and as you'll notice most of us agree with her. There's lots of people who are really good at losing weight, by yo-yo'ing from one fad diet to the next. But there's very few people who maintain their losses for any amount of time. The long term success rate for weight loss adherence is dismal (something like 80-90% fail). Weight loss means nothing, if one cannot maintain the loss. So finding a plan that's realistic and sustainable, for the next 20, 30, 40+ years, is what the OP should be focusing on. That's what Kriss meant, and as someone who's several years into successful maintenance myself and a participant of the NWCR, I agree with her 100%.10 -
US News has a pretty good synopsis of top diets:
http://www.usnews.com/info/blogs/press-room/articles/2017-01-04/us-news-reveals-best-diets-rankings-for-2017
My qualifications/expertise to give advice = None. I spent my entire adult life eating what I wanted in excess and got huge. Last 4+ months due to some personal goals (I need to get in shape to enjoy early retirement and take care of a sick loved one) have lost 40 pounds. This doesn't make me an expert but I do have an opinion.
My opinion: Determine if you have any specific goals. If your goal is Just weight loss than CI/CO works. If your goals include other things (training for sport, health, etc) there may be more appropriate food lifestyles for you.
In my case I have heart disease, diabetes and dementia running in my family and am blessed to have no symptoms/indications yet so I have adopted a real/clean/whole (what ever the label is) food diet (my own interpretation of Mediterranean, Dash and Mind diets) to increase my chances of staying healthy. I keep it flexible and not to stringent to increase my chance of success and with in this framework watch CI/CO closely to lose weight.
I agree making sure what ever you do is not to stringent and fits in your lifestyle while meeting your goals is the best option.
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No diet. Eat right, drink right, exercise and sleep well. Done.0
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I agree with everyone. The diet that works best for you may not work best for everybody else.
For me, a celiac with other autoimmune issues, and insulin resistance that is not obesity linked, a diet that is gluten free and very low carb high fat is the healthiest diet. I have yet to find another woe that improves my health and helps me lose weight like a ketogenic diet that is based on whole foods.
Others thrive on moderation. That woe was slowly killing me. Everyone needs to find their own path.0 -
The best diet is the one that will be a lifestyle change for you that you can do long term.1
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PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »Oh wait. That's the Outback Steakhouse slogan. How many calories in a bloomin' onion?
Trust me, you REALLY don't want to know.2 -
I stand for veganism0
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brichards_ wrote: »I stand for veganism
That's healthy0 -
My advice is to try eating the same way you would feed your four year old child (if you had one!) You would give the child healthy things in the right proportions, and say "no" to unhealthy foods, save for the occasional treat. Even if the child threw a tantrum and cried, you would hold firm to a sensible diet of healthy foods. Even if the child didn't like fruits or vegetables, you would encourage him/her to try a little bit at every meal. You would provide water or milk to drink, not juice or soda (or vodka lol!)
We need to love ourselves in the same respectful and disciplined way that we love our children.
While eating at a calorie deficit will cause weight loss, you may experience hunger or cravings so frequently that you're stressing out your will power. If that happens, you may want to try low carb to see if that eliminates the problem. It's not right for everyone, and for years I resisted trying it because it sounded too extreme. Once I finally decided to experiment with low carb, I got what all the fuss was about. My obsession over food was gone, like someone flipped a switch in my brain. Sometimes I even have to make myself eat more at the end of the day.3 -
I'm trying to adopt & maintain the attitude below:
Eat - to fuel the machine (right amount & "types" - while also enjoying it) in order to Train (to meet my specific goals)
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brichards_ wrote: »I stand for veganism
Last I checked, veganism wasn't really a diet.2
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