Whole30 diet
capellof
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Hello, anyone with a Whole30 diet experience? I'm following this program for the past ten days and i'm feeling optimistic about loosing weight.
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The Whole 30 was invented as an elimination diet to establish food intolerance, rather than a weight loss plan, was it not?12
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The avoid list is too harsh for me but then I saw this 2. Do not consume alcohol in any form, not even for cooking. Counts me out, but good luck
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What happens after "30"?
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Hello_its_Dan wrote: »What happens after "30"?
You reintroduce foods back into your diet and see how they affect you. After doing Whole 30 my sister felt "drunk" when she ate a bagel.1 -
Yes, you're right. It was not created as a weight loss plan; but I hear positive reviews from people, regarding their experience once they eliminated process foods and complex carbs.3
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Is your goal to figure out which foods you're intolerant to, or is it to find a sustainable way of eating that you can live with for the rest of your life (or both)?2
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Hello_its_Dan wrote: »What happens after "30"?
You reintroduce foods back into your diet and see how they affect you. After doing Whole 30 my sister felt "drunk" when she ate a bagel.
Lol I'm joking.
What if you don't need to eliminate food?
Wouldn't that screw with your microbiome?
Imagine being able to digest style of nutrient, then you eliminate that nutrient starving off that type of microbe.
Just thinking out loud here.
This"diet" doesn't sound smart...
Fodmaps on the other hand is backed by science.4 -
Well, I was diagnosed with a lymphatic sickness and I need to boost my inmune system. I don't want to go vegan, I love meat.0
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Hello_its_Dan wrote: »Hello_its_Dan wrote: »What happens after "30"?
You reintroduce foods back into your diet and see how they affect you. After doing Whole 30 my sister felt "drunk" when she ate a bagel.
Lol I'm joking.
What if you don't need to eliminate food?
Wouldn't that screw with your microbiome?
Imagine being able to digest style of nutrient, then you eliminate that nutrient starving off that type of microbe.
Just thinking out loud here.
This"diet" doesn't sound smart...
Fodmaps on the other hand is backed by science.
Instead of immediately judging Whole30 negatively, why not go check out the website?
My husband and I completed Whole30 at the end of January. He did it to support me in my box's Winter Challenge, but ended up with the most amazing results. He was able to stop taking cholesterol medication after just 30 days! His doctor was completely floored and is even thinking about starting Whole30 herself.
I found out that breads and pastas leave me exhausted, for three days I struggled at work to stay awake after eating pizza during lunch. Alcohol isn't worth it either, it keeps me from being able to rest at night. Post Whole30, our skin is clearer, we sleep better/longer, I dropped 9.9 lbs and my husband dropped 12! Weight loss isn't the goal, but is often a side effect of eliminating added sugar, alcohol, legumes, dairy and artificial ingredients.
It always makes me laugh when someone turns up their nose at Whole30 because what could possibly be bad about eating meat, vegetables, fruit and healthy fats? I don't understand why people are so apprehensive about it, it only asks you to make a commitment of 30 days, JUST THIRTY DAYS! Here's the kicker, if you don't want to do it, you don't have to!
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slyce0flife wrote: »Hello_its_Dan wrote: »Hello_its_Dan wrote: »What happens after "30"?
You reintroduce foods back into your diet and see how they affect you. After doing Whole 30 my sister felt "drunk" when she ate a bagel.
Lol I'm joking.
What if you don't need to eliminate food?
Wouldn't that screw with your microbiome?
Imagine being able to digest style of nutrient, then you eliminate that nutrient starving off that type of microbe.
Just thinking out loud here.
This"diet" doesn't sound smart...
Fodmaps on the other hand is backed by science.
Instead of immediately judging Whole30 negatively, why not go check out the website?
My husband and I completed Whole30 at the end of January. He did it to support me in my box's Winter Challenge, but ended up with the most amazing results. He was able to stop taking cholesterol medication after just 30 days! His doctor was completely floored and is even thinking about starting Whole30 herself.
I found out that breads and pastas leave me exhausted, for three days I struggled at work to stay awake after eating pizza during lunch. Alcohol isn't worth it either, it keeps me from being able to rest at night. Post Whole30, our skin is clearer, we sleep better/longer, I dropped 9.9 lbs and my husband dropped 12! Weight loss isn't the goal, but is often a side effect of eliminating added sugar, alcohol, legumes, dairy and artificial ingredients.
It always makes me laugh when someone turns up their nose at Whole30 because what could possibly be bad about eating meat, vegetables, fruit and healthy fats? I don't understand why people are so apprehensive about it, it only asks you to make a commitment of 30 days, JUST THIRTY DAYS! Here's the kicker, if you don't want to do it, you don't have to!
Good for you guys!
I'm only asking thought provoking questions.
What happens after 30?
What happens if you eliminate something that isn't necessary?
Why not use something backed by science if using elimination diets?2 -
Follicular Lymphoma B cell
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Ah!
This is what I sent my father in law when he was diagnosed.
He's in full remission now.
Great info here but as always, talk to your doctor.
http://www.lymphoma.org/site/pp.asp?c=bkLTKaOQLmK8E&b=85967572 -
Hello_its_Dan wrote: »Good for you guys!
I'm only asking thought provoking questions.
What happens after 30?
What happens if you eliminate something that isn't necessary?
Why not use something backed by science if using elimination diets?
After 30 you slowly reintroduce the things you want to have, dairy one day, go back to W30 eating for two days. Have peanut butter, go back to W30 for two days. You do this so that you can cognitively think about how those things make you feel or how physically your body reacts to it.
The things I mentioned eliminating are not necessary to a human's diet.
Scientifically, meat, fruit, vegetables and healthy fats like coconut, olive oil, almonds, nut butters are healthy.
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slyce0flife wrote: »Hello_its_Dan wrote: »Good for you guys!
I'm only asking thought provoking questions.
What happens after 30?
What happens if you eliminate something that isn't necessary?
Why not use something backed by science if using elimination diets?
After 30 you slowly reintroduce the things you want to have, dairy one day, go back to W30 eating for two days. Have peanut butter, go back to W30 for two days. You do this so that you can cognitively think about how those things make you feel or how physically your body reacts to it.
The things I mentioned eliminating are not necessary to a human's diet.
Scientifically, meat, fruit, vegetables and healthy fats like coconut, olive oil, almonds, nut butters are healthy.
Awesome!
So you and your husband have found an easy, sustainable lifestyle.
Best luck in your journey.1 -
I finished the Whole 30 a month ago. I hoped to reduce my migraines and lose a bit of weight. It accomplished both. It was rough in the beginning, but I went an entire month with absolutely no headache. Amazing. I got a headache the other day because I waited far too long to eat dinner (not by choice). I took 1/4 of my usual headache med dose and my headache was gone in 20 mins. I learned what my triggers are, so now I can avoid those foods. Plus, I felt amazing doing it. I try and continue the plan now, but I allow myself a few indulgences. I lost 7lbs in 30 days. Not too bad considering I didn't count calories and ate as much as I wanted. Once you know the food to eat, it really isn't hard to do.5
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I've done Whole 30 a couple times. I learned something new each time I did it about how my body reacts to certain foods. I know that there are a LOT of food sensitivities out there and sometimes you dont even realize you have one until it's gone. Strange sounding I know . Buy I didn't realize that I was chronically phlegmmy in my throat (sorry gross I know) until I did whole 30 and realized it was gone. Turns out dairy immediately causes issues for me. Also found out that I bloat horribly on wheat and just feel tired and gross, but that other grains are OK. One round I learned about my emotional and psychological triggers that caused food cravings. I think its a very educational process and personally highly recommend it (although from a weight loss perspective it's not much different than any program out there. I lost 2 - 2.5 lbs per week each time I did it). One thing I will say is that I FELT and LOOKED much skinnier (I think because no bloat and inflammation ) after the program than I do now while eating foods at a Deficit. For example, one time I did whole 30 I got down to 183lbs. Today I weighed in at that same weight, but I am way more bloaty and puffy now than I was after whole 30. People report some amazing physiological changes from doing it and it's all healthy foods so I say why not? I do think it's not a sustainable way to eat (too much prep work and you can never eat out) but it's not meant to be a life long WOE- just a chance for a fresh start.4
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Oh i forgot to say - if you do decide to do the program, keep a copy of the Whole 30 Timeline nearby. It really helps to understand what's going on in your body and to explain various symptoms etc you might experience. http://whole30.com/2013/08/revised-timeline/3
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slyce0flife wrote: »Hello_its_Dan wrote: »Good for you guys!
I'm only asking thought provoking questions.
What happens after 30?
What happens if you eliminate something that isn't necessary?
Why not use something backed by science if using elimination diets?
After 30 you slowly reintroduce the things you want to have,
or alternative 2:
I have never met nor heard about a real life alternative 1 person.2 -
I'm on day nine and feeling lighter and more alert. I have terrible sugar cravings in the afternoon, but I have been able to handle them with a couple of almonds and half of a banana. I don't know, call me crazy, but it is easier to have a list of "what not to eat." and choose from a long list of meat (organic of course), veggies and fruits.
Anyhow, wish me luck!3 -
Let us know what you learn at the end of the month! Good luck !0
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kommodevaran wrote: »slyce0flife wrote: »Hello_its_Dan wrote: »Good for you guys!
I'm only asking thought provoking questions.
What happens after 30?
What happens if you eliminate something that isn't necessary?
Why not use something backed by science if using elimination diets?
After 30 you slowly reintroduce the things you want to have,
or alternative 2:
I have never met nor heard about a real life alternative 1 person.
There are plenty of people that complete Whole30 and and go crazy. My husband and I haven't. We have both been trying out dairy and grains, we had a beer one night. Whole30 for me was about changing my relationship with food. I don't crave anything anymore and it is the first time in my life I can say that! It isn't like I am never going to have ice cream again. I just don't want to make it a part of my regular diet, because it is definitely a trigger food that does make me want to eat all the things.2 -
Good luck to you! You will feel amazing!! Pay close attention to how your body reacts when reintroducing any foods and you will be astounded by finding out that either somethings you thought made you feel bad, don't; and also finding out things you didn't even think about make you feel like pooh. I concur wholeheartedly to why not do the Whole30? Doing without all the "off limits" foods/drink for 30 days is certainly not going to hurt you! And something like this really gets you to "listen" to your body.1
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slyce0flife wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »slyce0flife wrote: »Hello_its_Dan wrote: »Good for you guys!
I'm only asking thought provoking questions.
What happens after 30?
What happens if you eliminate something that isn't necessary?
Why not use something backed by science if using elimination diets?
After 30 you slowly reintroduce the things you want to have,
or alternative 2:
I have never met nor heard about a real life alternative 1 person.
There are plenty of people that complete Whole30 and and go crazy. My husband and I haven't. We have both been trying out dairy and grains, we had a beer one night. Whole30 for me was about changing my relationship with food. I don't crave anything anymore and it is the first time in my life I can say that! It isn't like I am never going to have ice cream again. I just don't want to make it a part of my regular diet, because it is definitely a trigger food that does make me want to eat all the things.
That's good.
A few of the people I work with are recovering EDs where Whole30 created a massive binge/purge cycle.
Had to break them of the "good/bad" "forbidden/allowed" mentality too.3 -
Hello_its_Dan wrote: »slyce0flife wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »slyce0flife wrote: »Hello_its_Dan wrote: »Good for you guys!
I'm only asking thought provoking questions.
What happens after 30?
What happens if you eliminate something that isn't necessary?
Why not use something backed by science if using elimination diets?
After 30 you slowly reintroduce the things you want to have,
or alternative 2:
I have never met nor heard about a real life alternative 1 person.
There are plenty of people that complete Whole30 and and go crazy. My husband and I haven't. We have both been trying out dairy and grains, we had a beer one night. Whole30 for me was about changing my relationship with food. I don't crave anything anymore and it is the first time in my life I can say that! It isn't like I am never going to have ice cream again. I just don't want to make it a part of my regular diet, because it is definitely a trigger food that does make me want to eat all the things.
That's good.
A few of the people I work with are recovering EDs where Whole30 created a massive binge/purge cycle.
Had to break them of the "good/bad" "forbidden/allowed" mentality too.
Wow, that's scary! Luckily, neither of us have had an ED. I feel for people that have to deal with it, as I can definitely see how it can happen in today's society. We're all force fed into believing women and men should look a certain way. It is hard not being able to live up to the ridiculous standards.
People (friends, coworkers) tell me I am off for even doing Whole30 to begin with, but I truly feel better than I ever have. I don't use food as a reward like I used to. When I'm in social situations at restaurants I now have the wherewithal to pass on something I know is going to make me feel bad later or to stop eating when I'm full instead of eating until I can barely button my pants.
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Well, I was diagnosed with a lymphatic sickness and I need to boost my inmune system. I don't want to go vegan, I love meat.Follicular Lymphoma B cell
This is a matter I would discuss with my oncologist, or ask him/her to refer me to a dietitian familiar with the needs of cancer patients.3 -
Well, I was diagnosed with a lymphatic sickness and I need to boost my inmune system. I don't want to go vegan, I love meat.
I would suggest that you should be having this conversation with the physician that diagnosed you rather than a bunch of internet junkies who know nothing of your medical history or dietary needs. Maybe ask for a dietetic referral.3 -
I started it 11 days ago. It was incredibly hard in the beginning but it's been a little easier lately. I don't feel as bloated as I used to, and I feel a little happier than I used to for some reason. I don't feel as sad and depressed as I used to. I plan to do this for more than 30 days- till the end of march. Then I will start reintroducing other foods into my diet again. But so far, so good 2
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Two friends and I tried it. One friend was able to finish, the other fell off the bandwagon halfway through going to the 'forbidden foods'. I think I fell off after 4 or 5 days. I can't help it, I love cheese. Anywhoo, it is definitely great as a food intolerance test if you go long enough with it. One friend found out that she's gluten intolerant (she was tested afterwards, and is not celiac, but has reactions when eating wheat), the other found that him and milk do not get along.
I was just a failure. But I still had cheese.
The program itself does start to reintroduce foods back after the initial phases to see how your body adjusts, and it IS built for just 30 days, though it seems a popular jumping off point for paleo. If restricting those items is sustainable for you, fair enough and best of luck. 1
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