A question for those who have autoimmune/inflammatory conditions

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comptonelizabeth
comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
edited November 2024 in Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
This is probably a stupid question. I have IBD which is an inflammatory autoimmune disease affecting the bowel. At the moment I'm in remission but have my crp (c- reactive protein)levels checked periodically as it's an inflammatory marker. I had them checked a few weeks ago and got the results yesterday - the first time since I started a lifting programme- and they were elevated by quite a bit. As I'm currently symptom free and there are no other signs of active inflammation,it got me wondering - does lifting increase inflammation (My consultant said he doesn't know!)

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  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    I'm pretty sure it does
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    singingflutelady wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it does

    I'm hoping it does and it's not a flare waiting to happen :o
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    Crp is an odd thing. I'm not in remission but pretty stable. I'm having a proctocolectomy with permanent ileostomy surgery for my fistulas very soon so I'm having tons of tests. Endoscopy showed inflammation in my stomach, my faecal calprotectin is positive and I still had inflammation on my last colonoscopy. I still have symptoms (but not like in major flare) but my crp and ESR are normal.. um ok.
  • Larissa_NY
    Larissa_NY Posts: 495 Member
    Inflammation is what repairs the damage you do to your muscles by lifting, so yes. High reps will cause more inflammation than low reps.

    Having said that, I started a high-rep program about a month ago and just got blood work done two weeks ago, and my CRP hasn't gone up at all.
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    Larissa_NY wrote: »
    Inflammation is what repairs the damage you do to your muscles by lifting, so yes. High reps will cause more inflammation than low reps.

    Having said that, I started a high-rep program about a month ago and just got blood work done two weeks ago, and my CRP hasn't gone up at all.

    Thank you. The consultant is going to check it again in 4 weeks so will see what happens but thanks,that makes sense!
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    singingflutelady wrote: »
    Crp is an odd thing. I'm not in remission but pretty stable. I'm having a proctocolectomy with permanent ileostomy surgery for my fistulas very soon so I'm having tons of tests. Endoscopy showed inflammation in my stomach, my faecal calprotectin is positive and I still had inflammation on my last colonoscopy. I still have symptoms (but not like in major flare) but my crp and ESR are normal.. um ok.

    LOL- mine is often normal even when I'm flaring but it's never before been raised when I'm symptom free!
    My calprotectin was also raised which suggests it's intestinal and probably nothing to do with lifting.
    Good luck with your surgery!
  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,305 Member
    Inflammation in auto immune disease can come from a multitude of problems. Imbalances promote inflammations which promote autoimmunity, diminish the first and the second subsides. I come to this question from the Hashimoto's community. I beg your pardon but there is an inflammatory link between all autoimmune conditions, so if you have one you can develop more.

    For me it has been a multifaceted approach of eliminating intolerances, I did not have allergies as such, and improving, changing the microbial balance of my digestive system, so it was not letting partially digested foods into my body, this causes the, in my situation, my thyroid to be attacked other tissues can be under threat depending on the alien molecules being taken as your own when they are to similar to one's own, known as molecule mimicry. My primary intolerance was to casein the dairy protein, the next was paraben, a preservative used in many foods, cosmetics, medications and other products. Once I found a probiotic which was least likely to promote histamine reactions I started to fly, things jolted towards a more "normal" health situation. I went on to add digestive enzymes which replace enzymes lost to poor digestive transit and nutritional uptake, primarily for me were phenol's and casein but the ones I use on the grounds of "maturity and hypo-loss" encompassed the dominant things like lactose, gluten, soy/beans and all. I really don't know myself I feel years younger, better than I did at 30.

    My ideas come from the functional side of medicine, looking for the reasons why something is happening, the systems by which it happens, intervening with nutrition/supplements, not just treating this one issue at a time. I would encourage you to do your own research. I've got my health back when I stopped to think my situation through and found functional medicine. The right range of foods, probiotics and enzymes have, are restoring my life to what it should be for a person in their 68th year, active again and good. I think I'm still a "work in progress" but aren't we all.
  • Chieflrg
    Chieflrg Posts: 9,097 Member
    comptonelizabeth wrote: »
    As I'm currently symptom free and there are no other signs of active inflammation,it got me wondering - does lifting increase inflammation

    I'm not a Dr, but generally speaking lifting causes stress on muscles, connective tissues, and joints. Inflammation from lifting does occur in order and the body begins to repair itself. This inflammation shouldn't be confused with the inflammation one experiences from a autoimmune disease. One helps and the other is a result of the immune system actually attacking.

    Lifting is a excellent combat of the damage of my autoimmune diseases RA and PA that primarily attack my connective tissues.

    Yours may be different obviously.
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    Chieflrg wrote: »
    comptonelizabeth wrote: »
    As I'm currently symptom free and there are no other signs of active inflammation,it got me wondering - does lifting increase inflammation

    I'm not a Dr, but generally speaking lifting causes stress on muscles, connective tissues, and joints. Inflammation from lifting does occur in order and the body begins to repair itself. This inflammation shouldn't be confused with the inflammation one experiences from a autoimmune disease. One helps and the other is a result of the immune system actually attacking.

    Lifting is a excellent combat of the damage of my autoimmune diseases RA and PA that primarily attack my connective tissues.

    Yours may be different obviously.
    Thank you,that clarifies it. I'm pretty sure that in the long run,any exercise will help to reduce my inflammation too. I suspect it may be that there is a flare up simmering away,ready to pounce but we will see!
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    edited March 2017
    Fuzzipeg wrote: »
    Inflammation in auto immune disease can come from a multitude of problems. Imbalances promote inflammations which promote autoimmunity, diminish the first and the second subsides. I come to this question from the Hashimoto's community. I beg your pardon but there is an inflammatory link between all autoimmune conditions, so if you have one you can develop more.

    For me it has been a multifaceted approach of eliminating intolerances, I did not have allergies as such, and improving, changing the microbial balance of my digestive system, so it was not letting partially digested foods into my body, this causes the, in my situation, my thyroid to be attacked other tissues can be under threat depending on the alien molecules being taken as your own when they are to similar to one's own, known as molecule mimicry. My primary intolerance was to casein the dairy protein, the next was paraben, a preservative used in many foods, cosmetics, medications and other products. Once I found a probiotic which was least likely to promote histamine reactions I started to fly, things jolted towards a more "normal" health situation. I went on to add digestive enzymes which replace enzymes lost to poor digestive transit and nutritional uptake, primarily for me were phenol's and casein but the ones I use on the grounds of "maturity and hypo-loss" encompassed the dominant things like lactose, gluten, soy/beans and all. I really don't know myself I feel years younger, better than I did at 30.

    My ideas come from the functional side of medicine, looking for the reasons why something is happening, the systems by which it happens, intervening with nutrition/supplements, not just treating this one issue at a time. I would encourage you to do your own research. I've got my health back when I stopped to think my situation through and found functional medicine. The right range of foods, probiotics and enzymes have, are restoring my life to what it should be for a person in their 68th year, active again and good. I think I'm still a "work in progress" but aren't we all.

    Thank you for your thoughtful reply- I'm really glad you've found an approach that works for you. Lots to think about.
    By the way, did you get your profile name from the Little Grey Rabbit books ? @Fuzzipeg?
  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,305 Member
    edited March 2017
    The name did come from a childhood book but not one about bunnies. She went to school among other things probably been out of print for most of the time.

    There is so much to this autoimmunity thing, getting through it is like lining up your personal dots. I hope it does not take you the best part of 50 years to get anywhere.

    eta - (I was symptomatic all that time ago, I remember situations while at school which have dogged my steps till now, dismissed by general medics, live with it was all the help I'd get) get well, stay well. live well.
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    There was definitely a hedgehog called Fuzzipeg in the grey rabbit books :)
    Thank you for your help,I appreciate it. I'm 61 so don't have 50 years....but I also remember stuff from years before my diagnosis which now make sense.
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