How many of you have personal trainers you love? Hate? Or utterly stupid? Brilliant?
augustremulous
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I just bought a package for personal training, and I'm super nervous about it. She's got great reviews and has won these awards, but I've had personal trainers in the past whom I hate and really made things a lot worse.
Examples:
- One guy told me to start drinking muscle milk, and when I told him I hate muscle milk, he said I'm never going to lose the weight because I'm being too inflexible. Keep in mind it was that SINGLE product that I didn't want - I wasn't saying I didn't want to eat more protein or even that I was anti supplement - I just didn't like that single bottle of muscle milk.
- Once I joined a really cheap discount gym. In my consultation the trainer took all my stats and told me that to be at a healthy weight I had to lose at least 160 pounds. I was 183 pounds at the time. I remember replying "But if I lost 160 pounds I would only weigh 23 pounds. I need you to think about this for a second. Does this make sense to you?" and he replied "yeah I know it sounds like a lot, but these are the numbers. You have to lose 160 pounds to be in a healthy weight range. At least. Preferably more."
- My old job included membership to Equinox, which is a nicer gym. A staffer saw me trying to do weighted squats, and came over to help me with my form. I thanked him, and he told me that he's a trainer there and could help me a lot with a couple of sessions. At our first session, I wasn't strong enough to do anything he wanted me to do. Not a single thing. I even told him I needed a lower weight but he told me I just wasn't trying hard enough. After our session he told me that I required personal training at least twice a week to even start to think about getting in shape. I told him there was no way I'd be able to afford that. Plus, after our session my back was killing me from overuse and I was so nonfunctional I had to go to the doctor for the first and last time I ever had back issues that required a doctor. He kept pestering me and calling me - one day I woke up at 6am and saw that I had two missed phonecalls from him from early in the morning. One of the voicemails he left me said I had no hope of ever losing the weight if I wasn't willing to make the financial investment. I had to change gym locations after that just to avoid him because I felt so harassed.
- I hired a woman to come to my home once a week a few years ago. She was great at first, but she eventually started getting really nosy. She decided my boyfriend wasn't manly enough or hot enough. It got to the point that all of our sessions included her opinions on me "upgrading" to a better looking guy once I got into better shape. The relationship with him didn't work out in the end, but he was the best boyfriend I had and the only boyfriend I was in love with, so it was super weird. I never understood not only the beef she had with him but why she felt she had to aggressively push this whole thing about me dumping him when I got thinner. Shows a really skewed world view, to say the least.
Anyway, a bad trainer can really make things really bad and demotivate you. It seems like a great one would be super helpful, so I'm hoping this will work out.
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Examples:
- One guy told me to start drinking muscle milk, and when I told him I hate muscle milk, he said I'm never going to lose the weight because I'm being too inflexible. Keep in mind it was that SINGLE product that I didn't want - I wasn't saying I didn't want to eat more protein or even that I was anti supplement - I just didn't like that single bottle of muscle milk.
- Once I joined a really cheap discount gym. In my consultation the trainer took all my stats and told me that to be at a healthy weight I had to lose at least 160 pounds. I was 183 pounds at the time. I remember replying "But if I lost 160 pounds I would only weigh 23 pounds. I need you to think about this for a second. Does this make sense to you?" and he replied "yeah I know it sounds like a lot, but these are the numbers. You have to lose 160 pounds to be in a healthy weight range. At least. Preferably more."
- My old job included membership to Equinox, which is a nicer gym. A staffer saw me trying to do weighted squats, and came over to help me with my form. I thanked him, and he told me that he's a trainer there and could help me a lot with a couple of sessions. At our first session, I wasn't strong enough to do anything he wanted me to do. Not a single thing. I even told him I needed a lower weight but he told me I just wasn't trying hard enough. After our session he told me that I required personal training at least twice a week to even start to think about getting in shape. I told him there was no way I'd be able to afford that. Plus, after our session my back was killing me from overuse and I was so nonfunctional I had to go to the doctor for the first and last time I ever had back issues that required a doctor. He kept pestering me and calling me - one day I woke up at 6am and saw that I had two missed phonecalls from him from early in the morning. One of the voicemails he left me said I had no hope of ever losing the weight if I wasn't willing to make the financial investment. I had to change gym locations after that just to avoid him because I felt so harassed.
- I hired a woman to come to my home once a week a few years ago. She was great at first, but she eventually started getting really nosy. She decided my boyfriend wasn't manly enough or hot enough. It got to the point that all of our sessions included her opinions on me "upgrading" to a better looking guy once I got into better shape. The relationship with him didn't work out in the end, but he was the best boyfriend I had and the only boyfriend I was in love with, so it was super weird. I never understood not only the beef she had with him but why she felt she had to aggressively push this whole thing about me dumping him when I got thinner. Shows a really skewed world view, to say the least.
Anyway, a bad trainer can really make things really bad and demotivate you. It seems like a great one would be super helpful, so I'm hoping this will work out.
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Oh my...please tell me all those horrible trainer stories couldn't have happened to one person.
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Those are really awful examples! Hopefully you've had all the bad trainers in your area and now will have a great one. If any of th I see things had happened to me at the beginning, I probably never would have continued on ,my journey1
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Wow that all sucks! The second one made me laugh a lot though. 23 lbs? That's the weight of an infant.
I can't believe you had so many stupid trainers.. as well as one who I suspect was trying to cheat with your bf. Hopefully unsuccessfully.0 -
@mom23mangos lol yes, those all happened tome.
@VeryKatie lol that's an idea but I don't think so. She told me a lot about how she likes "bad boys" and how guys who are too nice just don't turn her on. So weird. My ex was the sweetest guy you'd ever meet, too.0 -
@augustremulous hahah well in that case it sounds like she was trying to convert you to the bad boy side of things!
I now think all personal trainer users should be allowed a 1 month or 2 month probation period. Where they can fire the trainer no questions asked and cancel any kind of contract they have.
I once had a trainer try to sell me $6000 worth of services but didn't even give me examples of what I would be doing for that money. I just didn't trust him! And the $6000 was after I bartered him down from like $12,000 by saying "that's too much money and too many sessions a week. You need to set me up so I can do it on my own most of the time with at most once a week check ins!" And he wouldn't go any less than 2 times a week for 8 months. I get maybe more sessions for the first month or two but not for 8 months.
I've only ever seen one person who hired a trainer at the gym I used to go to. He would have her use the weight machines. He never gave her form tips or anything (there are still form tips for machines) and he wouldn't count her reps or anything. He just stood there checking out other people while she worked. He didn't even look to see how she was doing. Any time she asked "how many more" he'd just say "keep going" or "um... 30 seconds". I'm not convinced he really had a plan for her. He should know how many sets and reps... and she just wanted to know what he was planning.1 -
WOW!0
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I started using a trainer for the first time in November. He was young (20 something) and I noticed right off that he didn't seem to listen when I explained my goals to him. He was more interested in his goals for me. He wanted me to abandon running (which I love), spend at least an hour weight training in the gym 6 days a week (no way I had time for that!) and eatvthe exact same foods every day. I tried to stick to his plan for a week or two then just lost all motivation. I was signed up for 6 months and the money was being drafted out of my account so there wasn't much I could do but wait it out.
LUCKILY he moved last month and I was able to chose a new trainer to take his place! The trainer I went with was new and does not at all look like your "typical" trainer. But he is SO much better! He actually listened to what MY goals were and suggested changes that can actually be incorporated into my hectic lifestyle. Plus he understands that I'm a beginner and safety is a priority. I've had him for 2 weeks now and I've lost 5 pounds and have improved my performance both in weight training, core strengthening and running! Having a good trainer can make such a difference!22 -
Uh, she did this while charging you an hourly or per session rate? I'm gathering trainers aren't professionally licensed then. Certified, okay, but anyone with a professional license would be more than a little hesitant and downright foolish to conduct business like this.
We used to hang out and chat for a few minutes after our sessions. But yeah. We had gotten pretty friendly, and TBH did gossip a bit about sex and dating, but she crossed a line.0 -
I've been fortunate enough to strike gold with my trainer - he's amazing! I'm always sweating/dying but he's never pushed me so hard I hurt myself. I go to a LA Fitness so I just kind of picked him arbitrarily but I wouldn't consider switching.
My strength and cardiovascular health have improved drastically, as have my workouts on my own. I've been training with him for about 8 months now, once-a-week or so. I like that he's a pretty quiet focused person, puts up with my jokes and general struggling, and when he gives me a compliment I know it's extremely genuine. I've heard/seen other trainers in the same gym who seem not as invested (I'm hesitant to actually judge, since I'm not their client) but I've always been super pleased with mine.
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Wowza, those are nightmare stories.
My trainer is pretty good -- he's the only one I've had, so I can't really say if he's perfect. I pay a really good rate ($15 for 45 mins), so I'm not really keen to try anyone else.
I do like how he very tactfully told me I was gaining weight around the holidays -- he basically asked for my routine and told me to add cardio and watch nutrition. I got the message without him telling me, "Uhh, you're getting fat!"
He's also motivating, but doesn't really yell at me. Positive affirmation when I kill it too.
He doesn't really do diet/meal plans, we really just work out and that's it.2 -
I'd personally be wary of any PT who expected me to sign up for a package without having had at least one trial session. Not everyone is the right 'fit'. Some PTs are quite fixed on what they offer in terms of how long sessions last how many sessions per week etc, as well as the programme. I had a guy target me after he'd covered a class, he worked on weights and could help me lift heavy if I trained 3 times a week with him and he'd give me a diet plan. I didn't want to lift heavy, not my thing, and I struggled to get to the gym three times a week!
I work with a PT for a couple of years. He was great. Slotted me in every 2-3 weeks, regularly reviewed goals and kept sessions varied and interesting, offered diet advise if I asked but didn't push it. Helped keep me getting to the gym when it was a battle.
Hope this one works out for you.
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Those sounds terrible. I see a lot of the trainers at my gym sort of casually go through a workout with lots a small talk. I've seen them work with the same clients for years with absolutely zero progress.1
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I've only ever hired one trainer, my current one. I hired him specifically to train me in powerlifting. He's knowledgeable and realistic. Lets me eat Sour Patch Kids, "a carb is a carb. Your body doesn't know the difference." I like him. I did quite a bit of research before I hired him, though.
Your stories are horrific. I'm glad I got lucky the first time.6 -
Those sounds terrible. I see a lot of the trainers at my gym sort of casually go through a workout with lots a small talk. I've seen them work with the same clients for years with absolutely zero progress.
This! This is what I was trying to hint at when I said "I've heard/seen other trainers in the same gym who seem not as invested," haha, but you said it much more tactfully than I could have!1 -
@jbirdgreen $15 for 45 minutes? What?
I just signed up for a new client special that's three sessions for $99. But after that it's $85 per hour. These seem like typical rates where I live.0 -
I have a powerlifting coach that I love...I watched her squat 315 for multiple reps before I started to work with her.
She always encourages me to eat more and yells at me when I'm being legitimately dumb.6 -
Yeah, he had a special where it was $15/45 minutes when you purchase five sessions or more. Because I faithfully go 2x a week and I have been doing so for months, he keeps me at that rate.
I think he prefers the steady money and a regular client over having someone who pays $$$ to only use him one time.
Plus I think he also considers me to be a project because I was so out of shape when I started. Not necessarily super obese or overweight, just really weak/awkward.3 -
My PT has ended up being one of my good friends. I started seeing him about a year and a half (and 60ish pounds) ago. My imbalances have improved significantly, I'm worlds stronger than i was, and my weight has held pretty steady for over a year. while my fitness progress isnt as fast or noticeable as it used to be (im still making smaller gains), we're working on other goals like being independent in the gym and confidence. Our goal is to put him out of a job. I adore the guy.
The bad ones? The first one was a loud giggly meathead with arms as big as my thighs. I was so afraid of him that i never went back for the actual workout. The second was a lady who couldnt care less about me. She put me on a bike to "warm up" for 20 mins, showed me 3-4 machines for the next 15 and then made me stretch to cool down from such a strenuous workout for the last 10. On my way out, she handed me a copy of the "beginners workout" that we did and told me to call her in a month for the next routine. Uhhhh.... no.
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My coach is amazing. I don't pay him because he's a great lifter. I pay him because he has the knowledge and experience to keep me safe and build my lifts. When it's called for, his programs push you to the absolute limits although that only happens when peaking for a meet.
He knows how to get me perfectly primed, peaked and then tapered for a meet. He is a super comforting presence when he is there at a meet (not actually part of his job description but he does it when he can). And, he will listen to me stress about when my mom is in the hospital again. And when my ex is being a bigger jerk than normal.6 -
One time I had a trainer who would not only arrive 10-20 mins late EACH time we met, he would bring Mcdonalds or Taco Bell etc and eat it in front of me and actually wouldn't direct me so I often just tried to do things on my own on the machines. Granted this was a free trainer who was a student this was supposed to be his "internship" or something sooooo I guess its my fault for going the cheap route and not getting a real professional.2
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Brandi92809 wrote: »One time I had a trainer who would not only arrive 10-20 mins late EACH time we met, he would bring Mcdonalds or Taco Bell etc and eat it in front of me and actually wouldn't direct me so I often just tried to do things on my own on the machines. Granted this was a free trainer who was a student this was supposed to be his "internship" or something sooooo I guess its my fault for going the cheap route and not getting a real professional.
lol at him eating taco bell in front of you during your work out.2 -
I absolutely loved my last trainer - he was the best. But he had a long term family emergency thing and had to quit. My current trainer is fine but just doesn't compare to the last one. So after the old one quit it took me forever to decide to go back - I do LA Fitness - the ones at my main gym only work during the day - you know when I'm at work - so I started venturing out. Went to one nearby - he seemed pretty good asked a lot of questions, asked me to bring my food log the next week, asked if that would be my normal time to come etc - like long term planning. The next day they called me to say he no longer worked there! Oy. And of course all their other trainers work while I'm at work. Tried a girl at a gym further away - she never asked me a single question about my goals or anything. She was pretty good but I couldn't imagine spending time with her every week especially when she wasn't concerned about what my interests were - oh and I had to search for her and we started late - not a good first impression. Then I tried this current guy - he'll do - he at least asks me questions and seems interested in how I'm progressing.
I've had a couple previous who just assume I can't do much and basically having me do the little pink weights that weigh less than my purse. I need a trainer who tries to kill me not baby me. I can be a pansy on my own in the gym just fine - in fact that's why I need a trainer!4 -
Becoming a certified personal trainer is not hard at all! Just because you pass a test doesn't mean you know anything about training, nutrition, counseling, goal setting, etc. I spent the last 8 years as a Personal Trainer and loved all my clients because I invested so much of myself in them. You really have to find a trainer that wants you to succeed as much as you do and has the background and experience to get you there. I would make sure they have a top rated certification like a CSCS or NASM to start and ask a lot of questions about their background. Personalities need to match and everyone has different preferences on how they like to be motivated. Good Luck I hope you love your trainer!!6
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I’ve had two experiences with PT’s. Experience #1 - The PT was more interested in looking at women in the gym than my form. To test my theory I was counting reps and actually didn't perform three reps but kept counting like I did. He didn’t notice. I would be on a machine and some female would be on the machine next to me. He would start coaching her - I’m paying him, not her. WTH? So I fired him and complained to the gym (which employed all the PT’s). That was a mistake. They then assigned this dude to me that was Satan in disguise. He would have me chase tennis balls like a dog until I threw up in a trash can. That was his idea of success. I think the other PT was his buddy and he was getting me back…. Not sure. But this weekend I start a group TRX class so hopefully that will work out better.
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I've never used a trainer but in my time in the gym I see quite a bit of what I consider poor training, unsuited to to the person being trained. Things like middle aged guys, way out of shape, doing bicep curls on a Smith machine. Lots of talking and little exercising etc.2
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Wow - you are due for some luck with a good trainer, OP! Lol
I LOVE my trainer. I work out with him twice a week (been doing it about 6 mos). I saw how he trained others and thought he might be too "military" for me at first in style (though I didn't doubt his expertise as his people get results!) ... but he eased me in and now I love his style. Motivating and pushes me past where I think I can go. Very focused on form ... there ARE good ones!!3 -
Cutaway_Collar wrote: »I am having a hard time reconciling with the Equinox trainer episode
They have a playbook for their trainers and it's a highly sophisticated enterprise. Their management does not let that kind of behaviour happen.
Their protocol is to put every member through an equifit program. And they will give you a report of your health and then recommend a trainer from there, only if you don't opt out. I have never heard of a trainer coming in and offer anyone a couple of sessions rightaway. I know because I have been an equinox member since 2008 (briefly stopped for a year in 2013ish timeframe and rejoined)
And I just don't go to one equinox.... I have the all membership pass which lets me access all their clubs in the five boroughs, and the tri-state area. So I am pretty well-versed with the training habits of their trainers.
Oh I believe it. I complained to management and they told me just that. Then they mentioned that I had been a member for awhile and had never been through the whole equifit process, and if I'd give them a chance they'd match me up with a trainer who was a good fit.
To be fair someone at work just happened to mention to me off hand that our job includes a free membership to equinox. And so I just went down there (same building as my office ) and said "no thank you" to the tour and introduction and everything. So I missed the whole "new member sign up" phase. Probably why everything was a mess.0 -
. . . welp, i'll shout out for mine. he runs a little 'underground' gym out of a loading bay down at the sketchy side of the tracks, and the first thing that struck me when i checked his web page was how clearly his message came through. "If you have an attitude, go somewhere else." a lot of places pay lip service to that kind of thing, but this guy means it. i spent a year working things out by myself first because it is so hard to find anyone who'll take you seriously when you have r.a. and then it took me quite a while to locate him even after i decided i did need some help.
this guy takes everyone seriously, and it doesn't seem to matter who his clients are. he'll spend the time quietly getting to know them and then figure out some way of working with them.
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Gee, some of these trainers sound sketchy. I've seen the type around though, given becoming one isn't too difficult it's the application. Things like eating fast food though? Some just don't take it seriously I guess...
I've had three throughout the last 5/6 years. The first I only saw a couple times. He wasn't "bad" but expensive and not motivating at all. The second was a woman who was training for her first competition. She obviously knew how to apply things to herself, but she didn't push me. Started me off at such a low weight & when I told her she could kick my *kitten* a little more she didn't take it to heart and babied me. I stopped seeing her around the gym not too longer after I switched trainers....guessing a few other people switched did as well.
My current trainer is the *kitten*. I stopped doing 1 on 1 with him around November but continue to attend his h.i.i.t classes. I still text him for advice on nutrition or workout ideas and he never fails to respond. I'm lifting so much more weight than when I started and he pushed me to a point where I surprised myself. He made me feel like a badass! He also, though, would get on me about drinking and staying on top of nutrition. He's someone who you can tell is 100% invested in his clients and wants to see them at their best. I was sad to leave the 1 on 1 ($ constraints) but happy to still have his support in a group setting.0 -
I've been working with my trainer for nearly 18 months. He was assigned to me for induction when I first joined the gym and I couldn't have asked for better. He has encouraged me, supported me, pushed me, never given up on me, laughed when I swore at him. I definitely couldn't have come this far without his support.3
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