Thyroid and weight loss

clholbrooks
clholbrooks Posts: 5 Member
edited November 16 in Health and Weight Loss
I need MAJOR advice. I have hypothyroidism, take 100 mcg of synthroid daily, eat between 1200-1400 calories daily, and do cardio 5x a week. And, I continue to gain weight. I'm only 5'3 and weigh 145. What else can I do? I've been on weight watchers for a year. So frustrated because everything I'm doing isn't working.
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  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    First have your hormone levels rechecked. You might just need your meds adjusted. If your levels are appearing fine see if you can be reffered to a dietitian. Some of us with thyroid issues respond well to special diets.
  • clholbrooks
    clholbrooks Posts: 5 Member
    I had my levels checked last month, and they were within normal range now. Any certain diet I should try?
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    If your levels are fine, your thyroid probably isn't why you aren't losing. You say you are on weight watchers, but are you calorie tracking? At your size your deficit will be pretty small so you may need to resort to weighing your foods to ensure your portion sizes are correct.
  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    there is a wide range of "fine levels" - normal TSH is like .45 to 4.5 (IIRC) - while mine levels were "normal" I felt like crap - and it took convincing my doc to increase my dosage - I went from 3.5 down to .45 and its like night and day difference; also my body doesn't react well to synthroid - but I'm much better on levothyroxine (the generic version) - something to consider (experience - no thyroid, on meds for 4yrs now)

    then look at what @sarahthes said - you need to weigh EVERYTHING - being in a healthy range for your height already, there isn't much of an error margin when it comes to logging
  • clholbrooks
    clholbrooks Posts: 5 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    If your levels are fine, your thyroid probably isn't why you aren't losing. You say you are on weight watchers, but are you calorie tracking? At your size your deficit will be pretty small so you may need to resort to weighing your foods to ensure your portion sizes are correct.

    I do all of those. I track in MFP as well. Weigh everything in grams, ounces, etc.
  • moira1968
    moira1968 Posts: 17 Member
    I've been on synthetic thyroxine for over 25 years, since it was first introduced (it came from cows before that). I had to have my thyroid removed due to cancer. I have found that there is very little correlation between what the textbooks and doctors say about thyroid function levels and how people feel in reality. It took about 15 years for my dose to stabilise- I now take 150mcg daily but on initial diagnosis I was taking 300mcg daily (levels are kept high for cancer treatment). In reality, I should have all the symptoms of hyperthyroid but I don't. I gain weight, get constipated, sleep for long periods, have peeling fingernails, etc. I have an excellent endocrinologist who listens to me and my symptoms rather than only going on blood test results.

    I would suggest you get a referral to an endocrinologist. This is their area of expertise and can offer you more advice than your GP (unless he/she has a special interest in thyroid disease).
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    If your levels are fine, your thyroid probably isn't why you aren't losing. You say you are on weight watchers, but are you calorie tracking? At your size your deficit will be pretty small so you may need to resort to weighing your foods to ensure your portion sizes are correct.

    So true. If your thyroid levels are low, it could affect things.

    I was maintaining fine but then my thyroid took a down turn, I ate a bit more for energy, and I gained 5-10 pounds this fall/winter. I fixed my thyroid levels by upping my meds (from 150mcg of natural desiccated thyroid to 180mcg) and the weight started falling off again without changing my diet much at all.
  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    moira1968 wrote: »
    I've been on synthetic thyroxine for over 25 years, since it was first introduced (it came from cows before that). I had to have my thyroid removed due to cancer. I have found that there is very little correlation between what the textbooks and doctors say about thyroid function levels and how people feel in reality. It took about 15 years for my dose to stabilise- I now take 150mcg daily but on initial diagnosis I was taking 300mcg daily (levels are kept high for cancer treatment). In reality, I should have all the symptoms of hyperthyroid but I don't. I gain weight, get constipated, sleep for long periods, have peeling fingernails, etc. I have an excellent endocrinologist who listens to me and my symptoms rather than only going on blood test results.

    I would suggest you get a referral to an endocrinologist. This is their area of expertise and can offer you more advice than your GP (unless he/she has a special interest in thyroid disease).

    I went through 3 endo's who wouldn't listen to me about my blood work before going back to my PCM (internal med) who did and was ok with tweaking my meds - you have to be your own advocate and push - ATA (thyroid association) recently changed guidelines for recommended treatment
  • 30kgin2017
    30kgin2017 Posts: 228 Member
    A change in dr saw a change in what was considered normal for blood test results for me.

    I have also found a correlation for me between resting heart rate and thyroid. If its low over a period of time I know its time to get another blood test.
  • moira1968
    moira1968 Posts: 17 Member
    Oh, and I forgot to add that thyroid function tests can be affected by just about anything- illness, hot weather, exercise, the list is endless. I have by bloods checked 3-monthly and used to keep a diary which pinpointed what affected my levels.
    I have kept so many health diaries over the yearsIi'm surprised I'm not better at keeping my food diary.
    Hope all this helps you.
    It is amazing how much of our activities of daily living are affected by thyroid disease.
  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    been on levo for a year now, and my current levels as from last wek are 0.02, euthyroid, im half expecting my dr to ring and suggest reducing dosage but i dont have any hyper symptoms so im going with what works for me,
    as for weight, regardless of my thyroid being off or fine, i still struggle to lose. i lost 4.5 stone before i got diagnosed and not i just cant shift any, i go up and down the same few pounds, i train 4 times a week and i keep to tdee minus 25%
  • charlenekapf
    charlenekapf Posts: 309 Member
    Get your thyroid free t3 levels checked. also levothyroxine is only t4. you may have a problem like i do of converting the t4 to t3. t3 is what actually is effective in your thyroid running optimally. check about taking either a combination of t3/t4 like levo/cytomel (t3) or armour (natural desiccated thyroid with t3/t4). you need to regularly monitor your thyroid levels though... i kept increasing my dose of armour without getting checked and suddenly went from hypo to hyper and the symptoms are very much like going hypo all over again except hyper is really bad for your heart and muscles.
  • cross2bear
    cross2bear Posts: 1,106 Member
    For me a normal range was too too too hyper - I was edgy and would burst into tears at the slightest provocation, couldnt focus on things, couldnt control moods - I was clearly not right. Had a check with my doctor and she adjusted downward and its like I am a different person - looking at my test results one would say I was not on the right dose, but sitting in a room with me you would think differently (I hope!)

    Once on the right dose (for me, not for the average patient) I was able to focus, and as a result, lost over 100lbs. I have been on levo for 28 years now.
  • hypodonthaveme
    hypodonthaveme Posts: 215 Member
    Sound advice already. I will add extra salt does not help your cause. Foods have enough natural salts that you don't need to add it. Everyone is different and so is their dr. We also have to work harder to lose the weight. But it Can be done. Its not always a CICO thing. Patience is key here.
  • ccsernica
    ccsernica Posts: 1,040 Member
    Sound advice already. I will add extra salt does not help your cause. Foods have enough natural salts that you don't need to add it. Everyone is different and so is their dr. We also have to work harder to lose the weight. But it Can be done. Its not always a CICO thing. Patience is key here.

    If anyone is suggesting salt, it's not for the salt but for the iodine that's added to nearly all table salt. This is one of the major unsung health victories of the 20th century, and has resulted in goiter becoming very rare in Western countries. 90% of goiter cases are caused by iodine deficiency, and is associated with either hyper- or hypothyroidism.

    However, it's true that if the problem is something like Hashimoto's then iodine won't help.
  • Duchy82
    Duchy82 Posts: 560 Member
    I would say that weight watchers no longer worked for me after my thyroid had packed in, so it may be a little bit of trial and error to find what does work for you and I will second what others are saying, if you are 100% sure you logging is accurate and with that I mean accurately weighed and using correct entries (cross checked with packaging, usda references, etc) then event though you might be in the normal range, that isn't your normal, you still have symptoms (i.e. weight gain) so you are not being treated optimally. A TSH of 2 or preferably below would be better, mine is suppressed and that is when I am asymptomatic. Once you are optimally treated you should start losing weight.
  • gnu4liberty
    gnu4liberty Posts: 48 Member
    I think eating a grapefruit for breakfast helps with weight loss. I am on thyroid meds, am 65, in a wheelchair, am 5'9" and weigh 138.
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
    I think eating a grapefruit for breakfast helps with weight loss. I am on thyroid meds, am 65, in a wheelchair, am 5'9" and weigh 138.

    In the sense that a grapefruit has fewer calories than a sausage, egg and cheese McGriddle, maybe. I'm not trying to mock you. There is nothing special about having a grapefruit or anything else for breakfast, or any other meal.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    If you are on medication and your blood tests show normal results, then it is not the reason you aren't losing weight.
  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    Sound advice already. I will add extra salt does not help your cause. Foods have enough natural salts that you don't need to add it. Everyone is different and so is their dr. We also have to work harder to lose the weight. But it Can be done. Its not always a CICO thing. Patience is key here.

    its not that you had to work harder to lose weight - CICO still applies -its just that the calories out is diminished because of thyroid issues - so you can't eat as much
  • hypodonthaveme
    hypodonthaveme Posts: 215 Member
    If you read this http://www.thyroid.org/thyroid-and-weight/ it does say that excess salt and water is a cause for weight gain with people with Hypothyroidism. No it isn't the same for everyone, but I did mention that in my post. But it did affect me. So , I have to agree with my dr on that. No two people with hypothyroidism will have the same symptoms and yes some do have to work harder. Diet alone did not help with my weight loss. I did have to do exercises which is harder than cutting calories or monitoring what foods to or not to eat. So, not going over calories is easy compared to doing cardio as well as some strength training. Yes exercise is mainly for fitness. But it still helps burn calories in a good way. Not everyone with Hypo can lose weight by just cutting calories. That is just fact. Just like some have to watch their refined carbs while others don't. Only you and your dr know you. I did not put my weight on because of excess daily calories. I have never in my life ate more than 1500 on any given day. I wish I could blame it on over eating. I would of lost the weight years ago :smile:
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    Open your diary so that we can see your logging.

    Are you logging exercise? Are you eating exercise calories? Are you eating 1200-1400 calories or netting 1200-1400 calories after exercise?
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
    edited March 2017
    If you read this http://www.thyroid.org/thyroid-and-weight/ it does say that excess salt and water is a cause for weight gain with people with Hypothyroidism. No it isn't the same for everyone, but I did mention that in my post. But it did affect me. So , I have to agree with my dr on that. No two people with hypothyroidism will have the same symptoms and yes some do have to work harder. Diet alone did not help with my weight loss. I did have to do exercises which is harder than cutting calories or monitoring what foods to or not to eat. So, not going over calories is easy compared to doing cardio as well as some strength training. Yes exercise is mainly for fitness. But it still helps burn calories in a good way. Not everyone with Hypo can lose weight by just cutting calories. That is just fact. Just like some have to watch their refined carbs while others don't. Only you and your dr know you. I did not put my weight on because of excess daily calories. I have never in my life ate more than 1500 on any given day. I wish I could blame it on over eating. I would of lost the weight years ago :smile:

    The only way to gain or not lose weight is to eat "too much." The definition of "too much" varies by situation. If you truly couldn't lose on 1500 calories, then it was too much for your situation. Adding exercise to create a deeper deficit is often easier than severely restricting calories, because severe restriction is difficult to do on a consistent basis.
  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    excess salt and water can cause weight gain for anyone...
  • hypodonthaveme
    hypodonthaveme Posts: 215 Member
    why do I need to open my diary? I am at goal weight( hit it the end of last oct) an eat my recommended calories. I joined MFP last april after already losing 30 pounds. so my diary today has no say in the years past. I was not a member when I could not lose the weight so I could not possibly open my diary and I am not going to go through years of notebooks and take pictures to prove to you that I was not going over the calories allotted. Someone mentioned I was over eating and that was what caused me to not lose the weight with hypo, not so for me. That is why I mentioned my calorie allotment. I watched my salt like my dr suggested and lost the weight. So that has no effect on my calories now. I was eating the calories my dr suggested. My thyroid numbers are perfect. That is why I mentioned in my first post to the OP that salt could be an issue with her as well. Didn't say it was. But it does affect losing weight with some who suffer hypo. I shared the link confirming my post about excess salt because someone had mention it had no effect. I am not here to argue. We are all here to share our stories, our tips, what worked , what didn't. Everyone is different and their bodies are different. No 2 Dr's are the same. Medications don't even work the same. With hypo and some other illnesses, it is just trial and error. Journaling every thing to find out how our bodies deal with certain things. To find a pattern or not find one in some cases.
  • Cobourg
    Cobourg Posts: 54 Member
    I have hypothyroid issues along with parathyroid issues and am also taking levothyroxine. Usually eat between 1000 - 1200 calories daily and walk mainly. I have done this with a dietician and lost 60 lbs but have gained about 20 back. I am under 5' tall so need to track carefully. When I pay attention to calories I lose but if I miss judge by only a bit I can gain. Watch your calories and watch what you eat. For some breads, pasta and rice can be a problem. I eat very little of each of these but when I do I don't lose. Anyway good luck and I would also suggest a good dietician. My doctor provided me with the one he went to so I figured if it was good for him then it was a good bet for me.
  • MostlyWater
    MostlyWater Posts: 4,294 Member
    You should be lifting weights too. And I'm sorry to tell you, but you probably should be eating less.

    I'm on Synthroid too, am five feet four inches tall, and when I was 142, I cut out big lunches, even though I was eating healthy foods. Plain and simple, I eat less.
  • gnu4liberty
    gnu4liberty Posts: 48 Member
    I have the understanding that grapefruit gets your liver into a fat burning mode.
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    I will add ... selenium. One Brazil Nut a day is enough. My endo showed me a recent student with some positive results. He had a dietician go over my food diary and supplement schedule and I'm not getting enough, even remotely. My medication hasn't changed, but my levels have dropped a little more (still within the normal range) and have been really stable for the last 1.5 years, which has been better for me. Even with meds, they'd fluctuate a little. I am in maintenance and lost my weight PTA (Post Thyroid Apocalypse).

    I second the T3 test and potential for supplementation. I'm on 15mg of cytomel daily along with my levoxyl.
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