Almost a year in...and completely lost...

mmjclark04
mmjclark04 Posts: 54 Member
Highest weight 244
Starting weight 233
Current weight 159
Height 5'4
Goal...who flippin knows lol

So here I am 1 year in to my new life. 75lbs down and honestly am so proud of the strides I've made in my fitness and health. I have been heavy my entire life. When I decided to lose weight...that was my goal... to lose weight. So I researched. I read all the posts on here I could about weight loss and coupled that with other things I read and made a plan. I cut my calories to between 1000 and 1200 and didn't go over them. The weight started coming off. I exercised with Jillian Michaels at home and did some running and was happy with my progress.

About 6 months ago things changed. I started high intensity boot camp type classes at the gym, kept up with my running, and eventually even started personal training. Now here I am.

Edited to add...I do the PT in addition to the other workouts...my PT consists of heavy (for me) lifting and continuous adding weight as I get stronger.

Here is my confusion. Calories. My trainer dies a little every time I tell him I'm still eating low calories. He says you need to eat to fuel your body for these workouts. BUT I know I still have fat to lose...so I need to stay in a deficit. I recently ran a half marathon and for 4 weeks before the marathon I upped my calories to 1450. My weight loss pretty much stood still but boy did I feel strong during my workouts. After the race...I dropped my calories back down to 1200 and I finally dropped a few pounds which makes me super happy BUT my workouts are suffering. Do I just have to deal with this? Do I eat more and accept the scale not moving? Do I eat less and accept the workout struggles? I'm not happy with the fat I still have so I know it needs to go but I'm not happy with crappy workouts either. Am I hurting my 'recomp' (I know recomp is said to be for when you get to your goal, which I'm not at, but I wanted to work on things at the same time) by not eating enough to fuel my workouts? What would make me crazy happy is to be at maintenance and able to eat to fuel my workouts...but this FAT has to go! Ugh...

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Does this make any sense?? Any advice?

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Replies

  • BrianKMcFalls
    BrianKMcFalls Posts: 190 Member
    A couple things to consider besides calories, how are your macros, are you getting adequate sleep, are you taking rest days after lifting? Even if you were bulking, the body needs rest while running a progressive lifting program.
  • Debmal77
    Debmal77 Posts: 4,770 Member
    You do need to fuel your body. Are you eating back between 50% - 75% of your exercise calories?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    do you know what your current body fat% is?

    If you have been dieting for this long, you probably need to take a few months and eat at maintenance and keep lifting heavy.

    Are you on a structured lifting regimen?
  • mmjclark04
    mmjclark04 Posts: 54 Member
    edited March 2017
    First I greatly appreciate your help.

    I am lost when it comes to macros. When I was training for the half...I carb loaded but other than that and trying to occasionally bump my protein intake...I don't really watch anything other than calories.

    I do not generally eat back any exercise calories.

    I do not know my body fat % ...what would be an accurate way of finding that?

    I am not on a 'structured' program aside from doing what my trainer tells me to do. I'm with him twice a week and he pushes me to lift heavy. But I see no structure to it really lol.

    My workouts are generally
    Monday - HIIT Class, running, lifting, Second HITT Class with my husband (this is a long day because my kids have classes at the local gym so I try to optimize my time)

    Tuesday - HIIT Class and/or running

    Wednesday - Personal Training

    Thursday - Running

    Friday - Personal Training

    Saturday - Running or Off

    Sunday - Off

    SOMETIMES I eat back SOME of my exercise calories but not often.

    I do get adequate sleep...8 hours usually.

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    mmjclark04 wrote: »
    First I greatly appreciate your help.

    I am lost when it comes to macros. When I was training for the half...I carb loaded but other than that and trying to occasionally bump my protein intake...I don't really watch anything other than calories.

    I do not generally eat back any exercise calories.

    I do not know my body fat % ...what would be an accurate way of finding that?

    I am not on a 'structured' program aside from doing what my trainer tells me to do. I'm with him twice a week and he pushes me to lift heavy. But I see no structure to it really lol.

    My workouts are generally
    Monday - HIIT Class, running, lifting, Second HITT Class with my husband (this is a long day because my kids have classes at the local gym so I try to optimize my time)

    Tuesday - HIIT Class and/or running

    Wednesday - Personal Training

    Thursday - Running

    Friday - Personal Training

    Saturday - Running or Off

    Sunday - Off

    SOMETIMES I eat back SOME of my exercise calories but not often.

    Does your pt have you squatting, deadlifting, barbell bench pressing, ohp's etc?
  • sammyliftsandeats
    sammyliftsandeats Posts: 2,421 Member
    You've lost a significant amount of weight in a year.

    Were your calories always at 1200 besides training for the half?

    If so, I would readjust your calorie number and if you are still trying to lose weight, readjust your deficit.

    Use a TDEE calculator to try and figure out what your maintenance calories for your current weight and lifestyle is. This is including exercise calories. Take 10-20% off that number. Eat that for six weeks and see what happens. Whether your maintain or lose...if you maintain, take another 100-200 calories off until you find yourself losing at a desirable rate.

    Just to be aware, depending on how many more pounds you want to lose, you are not going to want to go with a deficit that has you losing 2lbs per week. That will lead to fatigue and possibly other malnutrition problems. Try 1lb a week or if you have like 15lbs or less to lose, .5 pound a week.

    It's slower going, but you can prevent muscle loss, fatigue, and hunger by going at a slower rate and you would have fuel for your workouts.

  • mmjclark04
    mmjclark04 Posts: 54 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    mmjclark04 wrote: »
    First I greatly appreciate your help.

    I am lost when it comes to macros. When I was training for the half...I carb loaded but other than that and trying to occasionally bump my protein intake...I don't really watch anything other than calories.

    I do not generally eat back any exercise calories.

    I do not know my body fat % ...what would be an accurate way of finding that?

    I am not on a 'structured' program aside from doing what my trainer tells me to do. I'm with him twice a week and he pushes me to lift heavy. But I see no structure to it really lol.

    My workouts are generally
    Monday - HIIT Class, running, lifting, Second HITT Class with my husband (this is a long day because my kids have classes at the local gym so I try to optimize my time)

    Tuesday - HIIT Class and/or running

    Wednesday - Personal Training

    Thursday - Running

    Friday - Personal Training

    Saturday - Running or Off

    Sunday - Off

    SOMETIMES I eat back SOME of my exercise calories but not often.

    Does your pt have you squatting, deadlifting, barbell bench pressing, ohp's etc?

    Yes. We do a variety of that plus more and even some speed work for running by my request.
  • mmjclark04
    mmjclark04 Posts: 54 Member
    You've lost a significant amount of weight in a year.

    Were your calories always at 1200 besides training for the half?

    If so, I would readjust your calorie number and if you are still trying to lose weight, readjust your deficit.

    Use a TDEE calculator to try and figure out what your maintenance calories for your current weight and lifestyle is. This is including exercise calories. Take 10-20% off that number. Eat that for six weeks and see what happens. Whether your maintain or lose...if you maintain, take another 100-200 calories off until you find yourself losing at a desirable rate.

    Just to be aware, depending on how many more pounds you want to lose, you are not going to want to go with a deficit that has you losing 2lbs per week. That will lead to fatigue and possibly other malnutrition problems. Try 1lb a week or if you have like 15lbs or less to lose, .5 pound a week.

    It's slower going, but you can prevent muscle loss, fatigue, and hunger by going at a slower rate and you would have fuel for your workouts.

    I'd like to say that losing another 25lbs would be great to say I've lost 100lbs...BUT I'm not sure I can. Only because my goal is NOT to be skinny fat. I want to look fit...not bulky...but very fit and defined. I've see pictures on here of women who look skinny at 120 but then start lifting...jump to 140lbs and look FABULOUS. My goal would be the latter. So that's why I'm not completely sure what my goal weight should be...its more about appearance to me now...instead of a number on a scale. I'm just so stinkin confused lol
  • RoxieDawn
    RoxieDawn Posts: 15,488 Member
    edited March 2017
    OP I peaked at your diary and scanned through it.. I see several things

    1) Are you using a food scale to weigh your food intake?
    2) Most days your protein is very low.
    3) Some days you are eating under 1200 calories (I saw some under 1000)
    4) If you were to up your protein, find you a progressive over loading strength program, you can prevent muscle loss while eating in calorie deficit.
    5) Eating at 1200 calories (in your case under most days) is bound to catch up to you and with the training you are currently doing as well I can see issues with this preventing weight loss.

    Just to point out, I am also 5'4' and also currently in half marathon training, so I understand the 1200 calories to lose weight. I personally would never eat below my BMR in which yours is approx 1400.

    I would rework my calories again, look at my exercise calorie burns ans start eating back a portion of those and definitely increase protein etc.. If your TDEE as a sedentary person (per calculator) is around 1690-1700 it surely has to be more with the training added in.

    These are just some things I see without knowing anything further about your situation.
  • mmjclark04
    mmjclark04 Posts: 54 Member
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    OP I peaked at your diary and scanned through it.. I see several things

    1) Are you using a food scale to weigh your food intake?
    2) Most days your protein is very low.
    3) Some days you are eating under 1200 calories (I saw some under 1000)
    4) If you were to up your protein, find you a progressive over loading strength program, you can prevent muscle loss while eating in calorie deficit.
    5) Eating at 1200 calories (in your case under most days) is bound to catch up to you and with the training you are currently doing as well I can see issues with this preventing weight loss.

    Just to point out, I am also 5'4' and also currently in half marathon training, so I understand the 1200 calories to lose weight. I personally would never eat below my BMR in which yours is approx 1400.

    I would rework my calories again, look at my exercise calorie burns ans start eating back a portion of those and definitely increase protein etc.. If your TDEE as a sedentary person (per calculator) is around 1690-1700 it surely has to be more with the training added in.

    These are just some things I see without knowing anything further about your situation.

    Thank you. My logging has been very sporadic lately but yes when I do log something...it is weighed out. I am generally eating 1000 to 1200 calories a day. My TDEE seems to be about 1800 on sedentary days. My garmin adds my exercise calories to MFP automatically.

    I do struggle with macros. I've been on the hunt for a low calorie high protein powder that isn't full of crap and doesmt taste like crap lol...but I haven't jumped on one yet.
  • sammyliftsandeats
    sammyliftsandeats Posts: 2,421 Member
    mmjclark04 wrote: »
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    OP I peaked at your diary and scanned through it.. I see several things

    1) Are you using a food scale to weigh your food intake?
    2) Most days your protein is very low.
    3) Some days you are eating under 1200 calories (I saw some under 1000)
    4) If you were to up your protein, find you a progressive over loading strength program, you can prevent muscle loss while eating in calorie deficit.
    5) Eating at 1200 calories (in your case under most days) is bound to catch up to you and with the training you are currently doing as well I can see issues with this preventing weight loss.

    Just to point out, I am also 5'4' and also currently in half marathon training, so I understand the 1200 calories to lose weight. I personally would never eat below my BMR in which yours is approx 1400.

    I would rework my calories again, look at my exercise calorie burns ans start eating back a portion of those and definitely increase protein etc.. If your TDEE as a sedentary person (per calculator) is around 1690-1700 it surely has to be more with the training added in.

    These are just some things I see without knowing anything further about your situation.

    Thank you. My logging has been very sporadic lately but yes when I do log something...it is weighed out. I am generally eating 1000 to 1200 calories a day. My TDEE seems to be about 1800 on sedentary days. My garmin adds my exercise calories to MFP automatically.

    I do struggle with macros. I've been on the hunt for a low calorie high protein powder that isn't full of crap and doesmt taste like crap lol...but I haven't jumped on one yet.

    First things first, I think we need to get you logging consistently again. Because if you are saying when you eat 1450 while not training for a half, something seems off. You could be taking in more than you think, especially if you aren't logging it all.

    Once the logging is figured out, then you can have a proper look at your numbers and see what you need to do to lose.

    If you want to maintain your current scale weight but change your body composition, then eat at maintenance calories and use a progressive overload lifting program such as Stronglifts, Starting Strength, or Strong Curves.

  • RoxieDawn
    RoxieDawn Posts: 15,488 Member
    edited March 2017
    mmjclark04 wrote: »
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    OP I peaked at your diary and scanned through it.. I see several things

    1) Are you using a food scale to weigh your food intake?
    2) Most days your protein is very low.
    3) Some days you are eating under 1200 calories (I saw some under 1000)
    4) If you were to up your protein, find you a progressive over loading strength program, you can prevent muscle loss while eating in calorie deficit.
    5) Eating at 1200 calories (in your case under most days) is bound to catch up to you and with the training you are currently doing as well I can see issues with this preventing weight loss.

    Just to point out, I am also 5'4' and also currently in half marathon training, so I understand the 1200 calories to lose weight. I personally would never eat below my BMR in which yours is approx 1400.

    I would rework my calories again, look at my exercise calorie burns ans start eating back a portion of those and definitely increase protein etc.. If your TDEE as a sedentary person (per calculator) is around 1690-1700 it surely has to be more with the training added in.

    These are just some things I see without knowing anything further about your situation.

    Thank you. My logging has been very sporadic lately but yes when I do log something...it is weighed out. I am generally eating 1000 to 1200 calories a day. My TDEE seems to be about 1800 on sedentary days. My garmin adds my exercise calories to MFP automatically.

    I do struggle with macros. I've been on the hunt for a low calorie high protein powder that isn't full of crap and doesmt taste like crap lol...but I haven't jumped on one yet.

    I have a Garmin as well, and while I am using TDEE method, I think you should add back 1/2 of your exercise calories. What you need to do is get out the "under eating". Getting your food logging on point is very important at this point as well.

    Plenty of protein sources: yogurt, cheese, lean meats, whole eggs, egg whites, etc. Of course when your protein is as low as it is most days, finding you a supplement is a wise choice.

    And lastly since you have doing this a whole year have you considered perhaps a diet break, going to maintenance calories for brief period and then back it down to a small 200-250 calorie deficit?

    Just something to consider..
  • mmjclark04
    mmjclark04 Posts: 54 Member
    mmjclark04 wrote: »
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    OP I peaked at your diary and scanned through it.. I see several things

    1) Are you using a food scale to weigh your food intake?
    2) Most days your protein is very low.
    3) Some days you are eating under 1200 calories (I saw some under 1000)
    4) If you were to up your protein, find you a progressive over loading strength program, you can prevent muscle loss while eating in calorie deficit.
    5) Eating at 1200 calories (in your case under most days) is bound to catch up to you and with the training you are currently doing as well I can see issues with this preventing weight loss.

    Just to point out, I am also 5'4' and also currently in half marathon training, so I understand the 1200 calories to lose weight. I personally would never eat below my BMR in which yours is approx 1400.

    I would rework my calories again, look at my exercise calorie burns ans start eating back a portion of those and definitely increase protein etc.. If your TDEE as a sedentary person (per calculator) is around 1690-1700 it surely has to be more with the training added in.

    These are just some things I see without knowing anything further about your situation.

    Thank you. My logging has been very sporadic lately but yes when I do log something...it is weighed out. I am generally eating 1000 to 1200 calories a day. My TDEE seems to be about 1800 on sedentary days. My garmin adds my exercise calories to MFP automatically.

    I do struggle with macros. I've been on the hunt for a low calorie high protein powder that isn't full of crap and doesmt taste like crap lol...but I haven't jumped on one yet.

    First things first, I think we need to get you logging consistently again. Because if you are saying when you eat 1450 while not training for a half, something seems off. You could be taking in more than you think, especially if you aren't logging it all.

    Once the logging is figured out, then you can have a proper look at your numbers and see what you need to do to lose.

    If you want to maintain your current scale weight but change your body composition, then eat at maintenance calories and use a progressive overload lifting program such as Stronglifts, Starting Strength, or Strong Curves.

    I'm sorry. I was eating 1450 WHITE training for a half. And yes I do need to log more accurately again. I'm good about keeping up with weighing things...just not as great about logging lately. I logged every morsel in the beginning. I need to.get back to it...I'm so all over the place with my goal so that has made messed up my routine I guess.
  • mmjclark04
    mmjclark04 Posts: 54 Member
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    mmjclark04 wrote: »
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    OP I peaked at your diary and scanned through it.. I see several things

    1) Are you using a food scale to weigh your food intake?
    2) Most days your protein is very low.
    3) Some days you are eating under 1200 calories (I saw some under 1000)
    4) If you were to up your protein, find you a progressive over loading strength program, you can prevent muscle loss while eating in calorie deficit.
    5) Eating at 1200 calories (in your case under most days) is bound to catch up to you and with the training you are currently doing as well I can see issues with this preventing weight loss.

    Just to point out, I am also 5'4' and also currently in half marathon training, so I understand the 1200 calories to lose weight. I personally would never eat below my BMR in which yours is approx 1400.

    I would rework my calories again, look at my exercise calorie burns ans start eating back a portion of those and definitely increase protein etc.. If your TDEE as a sedentary person (per calculator) is around 1690-1700 it surely has to be more with the training added in.

    These are just some things I see without knowing anything further about your situation.

    Thank you. My logging has been very sporadic lately but yes when I do log something...it is weighed out. I am generally eating 1000 to 1200 calories a day. My TDEE seems to be about 1800 on sedentary days. My garmin adds my exercise calories to MFP automatically.

    I do struggle with macros. I've been on the hunt for a low calorie high protein powder that isn't full of crap and doesmt taste like crap lol...but I haven't jumped on one yet.

    I have a Garmin as well, and while I am using TDEE method, I think you should add back 1/2 of your exercise calories. What you need to do is get out the "under eating". Getting your food logging on point is very important at this point as well.

    Plenty of protein sources: yogurt, cheese, lean meats, whole eggs, egg whites, etc. Of course when your protein is as low as it is most days, finding you a supplement is a wise choice.

    And lastly since you have doing this a whole year have you considered perhaps a diet break, going to maintenance calories for brief period and then back it down to a small 200-250 calorie deficit?

    Just something to consider..

    I have not thought about going to maintenance. I think in my head I know I still have fat to lose so I'm not finished and can't stop yet. Not having a goal...not knowing what goal is even achievable at this point is messing me up I think. I did well with a long term goal and small goals in between. Now I just don't know what I'm after. I think if I were just after weight loss with no weight training...I could do it...but put the 2 together and I'm lost...grrr
  • RoxieDawn
    RoxieDawn Posts: 15,488 Member
    edited March 2017
    mmjclark04 wrote: »
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    mmjclark04 wrote: »
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    OP I peaked at your diary and scanned through it.. I see several things

    1) Are you using a food scale to weigh your food intake?
    2) Most days your protein is very low.
    3) Some days you are eating under 1200 calories (I saw some under 1000)
    4) If you were to up your protein, find you a progressive over loading strength program, you can prevent muscle loss while eating in calorie deficit.
    5) Eating at 1200 calories (in your case under most days) is bound to catch up to you and with the training you are currently doing as well I can see issues with this preventing weight loss.

    Just to point out, I am also 5'4' and also currently in half marathon training, so I understand the 1200 calories to lose weight. I personally would never eat below my BMR in which yours is approx 1400.

    I would rework my calories again, look at my exercise calorie burns ans start eating back a portion of those and definitely increase protein etc.. If your TDEE as a sedentary person (per calculator) is around 1690-1700 it surely has to be more with the training added in.

    These are just some things I see without knowing anything further about your situation.

    Thank you. My logging has been very sporadic lately but yes when I do log something...it is weighed out. I am generally eating 1000 to 1200 calories a day. My TDEE seems to be about 1800 on sedentary days. My garmin adds my exercise calories to MFP automatically.

    I do struggle with macros. I've been on the hunt for a low calorie high protein powder that isn't full of crap and doesmt taste like crap lol...but I haven't jumped on one yet.

    I have a Garmin as well, and while I am using TDEE method, I think you should add back 1/2 of your exercise calories. What you need to do is get out the "under eating". Getting your food logging on point is very important at this point as well.

    Plenty of protein sources: yogurt, cheese, lean meats, whole eggs, egg whites, etc. Of course when your protein is as low as it is most days, finding you a supplement is a wise choice.

    And lastly since you have doing this a whole year have you considered perhaps a diet break, going to maintenance calories for brief period and then back it down to a small 200-250 calorie deficit?

    Just something to consider..

    I have not thought about going to maintenance. I think in my head I know I still have fat to lose so I'm not finished and can't stop yet. Not having a goal...not knowing what goal is even achievable at this point is messing me up I think. I did well with a long term goal and small goals in between. Now I just don't know what I'm after. I think if I were just after weight loss with no weight training...I could do it...but put the 2 together and I'm lost...grrr

    The maintenance I mention is for only a brief period of time to bring things back into balance (metabolism and hormones). THIS IS if your logging is not accurate at all and you have been eating way more than what is reported in your diary.

    So you have two choices:

    1) Maintenance calories (find you progressive lifting program and increase your protein) and essentially recomp. You can build some muscle and lose fat but maintain weight.

    2) Rework your TDEE, cut calories by 200-250 calorie and continue to lose weight/fat and maintain your current muscle mass whilst in a calorie deficit.

    Make your choice and get your cals straight (logging and the amount you need to train, etc.) increase protein intake and find you a lifting program that suits your desired goals for body composition.

    No need to over think it. Look at your calorie data and exercise data in your diary to review this as it can help you determine the amount of calories you should be taking in for your current fitness and day to day activity level.

    If you do not have body composition goals, then make maintaining your muscle mass in a calorie deficit a high priority goal. Hopefully with the "which lifting is right for you" link above will help you with researching a program to help you out.

  • Rusty740
    Rusty740 Posts: 749 Member
    edited March 2017
    Not having a goal...not knowing what goal is even achievable at this point is messing me up I think.

    We need long term goals and it's ok that these be vague, but try to visualize it "Look fabulous" is yours. To get there we need short term goals. You know that you'd like to lose bodyfat to get "fabulous", but you also know you'd like to be toned. You're on the right track with slight deficit, lifting and some cardio, this just takes awhile. You will need to do some research and understand what your macros need to be to keep the muscle you have and that means focusing on your protein number. You need protein (+ lifting) to be high-ish while cutting to help not lose that muscle.

    Give yourself a short term goal. Maybe by May 1st, be down 2 lbs and by June 1st another 2 lbs. (you pick, but be specific and make it happen). We all go through this "I don't know what goal is reasonable" thing, so don't worry about being lost. You've come all this way, just set short term goals, reevaluate and change, this is how the rest of our lives will be anyway. :)

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    mmjclark04 wrote: »
    mmjclark04 wrote: »
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    OP I peaked at your diary and scanned through it.. I see several things

    1) Are you using a food scale to weigh your food intake?
    2) Most days your protein is very low.
    3) Some days you are eating under 1200 calories (I saw some under 1000)
    4) If you were to up your protein, find you a progressive over loading strength program, you can prevent muscle loss while eating in calorie deficit.
    5) Eating at 1200 calories (in your case under most days) is bound to catch up to you and with the training you are currently doing as well I can see issues with this preventing weight loss.

    Just to point out, I am also 5'4' and also currently in half marathon training, so I understand the 1200 calories to lose weight. I personally would never eat below my BMR in which yours is approx 1400.

    I would rework my calories again, look at my exercise calorie burns ans start eating back a portion of those and definitely increase protein etc.. If your TDEE as a sedentary person (per calculator) is around 1690-1700 it surely has to be more with the training added in.

    These are just some things I see without knowing anything further about your situation.

    Thank you. My logging has been very sporadic lately but yes when I do log something...it is weighed out. I am generally eating 1000 to 1200 calories a day. My TDEE seems to be about 1800 on sedentary days. My garmin adds my exercise calories to MFP automatically.

    I do struggle with macros. I've been on the hunt for a low calorie high protein powder that isn't full of crap and doesmt taste like crap lol...but I haven't jumped on one yet.

    First things first, I think we need to get you logging consistently again. Because if you are saying when you eat 1450 while not training for a half, something seems off. You could be taking in more than you think, especially if you aren't logging it all.

    Once the logging is figured out, then you can have a proper look at your numbers and see what you need to do to lose.

    If you want to maintain your current scale weight but change your body composition, then eat at maintenance calories and use a progressive overload lifting program such as Stronglifts, Starting Strength, or Strong Curves.

    I'm sorry. I was eating 1450 WHITE training for a half. And yes I do need to log more accurately again. I'm good about keeping up with weighing things...just not as great about logging lately. I logged every morsel in the beginning. I need to.get back to it...I'm so all over the place with my goal so that has made messed up my routine I guess.

    I would suggest that you take the next two weeks to tighten up your logging and see what your actual intake is.

    I asked about yoru body fat % up thread, and you were not sure about it. If you want to post some pictures on here we can try to give you an estimate. They would need to be from front and side, flexed and unflexed...

    your body fat% will determine if you should keep cutting, run a bulk, or recomp.
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