All things fun are unhealthy :(
ericpiccione
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It's pretty rhetorical but why is everything that tastes so dang good so bad for you?
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My pizza(homemade) is pretty good and is not bad for me. It hits all the macros.4
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You're getting bad information. The ISSUE isn't really the food. People from all over the world eat what would be deemed "bad" food but don't get the same over weight issues like the US does. The issue is OVER CONSUMPTION.
One can have ANYTHING they want in their diet as long as they hold themselves accountable for the amount of calorie space it takes up in their daily allowed amount.
Now is it better to have more nutrient dense food? Sure. But even nutrient dense is going to ensure that one DOESN'T get overweight.
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I love popcorn and I don't think it's that bad for me, especially if it's oil or air popped and not microwave.1
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No way! I just ate some Asian pork lettuce wraps earlier that were amazing, and I don't think they were unhealthy in any sense.4
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*looks down at my ferrero rocher*
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I eat lots of food that are healthy and taste amazing. It is all about your perception of food. I have also found that now that I don't eat as much sweet foods that overall I am enjoying the taste of other food so much more.2
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You're getting bad information. The ISSUE isn't really the food. People from all over the world eat what would be deemed "bad" food but don't get the same over weight issues like the US does. The issue is OVER CONSUMPTION.
One can have ANYTHING they want in their diet as long as they hold themselves accountable for the amount of calorie space it takes up in their daily allowed amount.
Now is it better to have more nutrient dense food? Sure. But even nutrient dense is going to ensure that one DOESN'T get overweight.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You're correct. The issue comes down with that it is easier to overeat some foods than others. If you try to have 200 grams of sweet potatoes and vegetables vs 200 grams of Snicker's bars, you will most likely be too stuffed to the gills to want to eat much, which is why both diet quality and quantity is important.
In fact, if you want to take a lean person and get them fat, expose them to an endless supply of hyperpatable foods-- they will easily overeat close to 1000 to 2,000 calories over their maintenance per day.
So the takeaway is that you can include junkier foods in your diet within reason, but it is of crucial importance that they do not become the majority of your diet.
You should never neglect your fruits and veggies just to fit a cinnamon roll in, but if after you meet your micronutrient needs, you still have room, go for it. Just remember that there are no such things as good or bad foods in isolation, but there is such a thing as a bad diet.5 -
I very seldom eat things I don't think taste good, and consider very little of what I eat bad for me (dang those sneaky trans fats and sneaky bacteria and what not that cause the occasional bout of food poisoning or digestive distress).2
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I dont think so.. just eat but don't abuse it :-)0
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That misconception is what's bad for us. That misconception kept me fat for years. That misconception made me fear food and hate food. That misconception made me think I was a sugar addict. That misconception made me malnourished.
Now I eat anything I want, but not everything at once, and not all the time. I have a healthy relationship with food. I love food. I also have a healthy weight.
Thank you, myfitnesspal, for clearing up so many confusing things
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When I started with MFP, I made the decision to eat only foods I like. And that's exactly what I did to lose my weight. 3
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...but cheese tastes amazing. And it's not bad for me. It's a good source of protein.0
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Totally just ate a two pound breakfest of oats, eggs, and greek yogurt. I find all of them to be quite pleasant by themselves, and even more so when all mixed together and put in the freezer for a while.
When I look at my food diary, then see all of the whinging on the boards about not being able to eat "delicious foods", I begin to believe that my mouth and brain may in fact, be broken. I find absolutely nothing appetizing about half of the stuff that many seem to lament not being able to eat.4 -
Report all these bad and unhealthy foods to your local foods standards agency and demand they be removed from sale.
Report back with their response please.
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Fruit and vegetables are bad for me? Since when?2
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Most of the foods I love are also nutritious and healthy when eaten in moderation. Only a few of the foods I love are truly a waste of calories, but I can make room now and then for them. I'm a little weird, though. A lot of the crap that other people think tastes amazing just makes my stomach turn. For instance, most fast food is vile to me. Just the greasy smell of McDonald's makes me nauseous. To each her own I guess. But I sure love some good home cooking!
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LucasWilland wrote: »You're getting bad information. The ISSUE isn't really the food. People from all over the world eat what would be deemed "bad" food but don't get the same over weight issues like the US does. The issue is OVER CONSUMPTION.
One can have ANYTHING they want in their diet as long as they hold themselves accountable for the amount of calorie space it takes up in their daily allowed amount.
Now is it better to have more nutrient dense food? Sure. But even nutrient dense is going to ensure that one DOESN'T get overweight.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You're correct. The issue comes down with that it is easier to overeat some foods than others. If you try to have 200 grams of sweet potatoes and vegetables vs 200 grams of Snicker's bars, you will most likely be too stuffed to the gills to want to eat much, which is why both diet quality and quantity is important.
In fact, if you want to take a lean person and get them fat, expose them to an endless supply of hyperpatable foods-- they will easily overeat close to 1000 to 2,000 calories over their maintenance per day.
So the takeaway is that you can include junkier foods in your diet within reason, but it is of crucial importance that they do not become the majority of your diet.
You should never neglect your fruits and veggies just to fit a cinnamon roll in, but if after you meet your micronutrient needs, you still have room, go for it. Just remember that there are no such things as good or bad foods in isolation, but there is such a thing as a bad diet.
I wouldn't be able to eat 200 g of Snickers in one go either. That's 4 bars.0 -
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've done that in a single (90-minute) commute home after a rough day at work. It's not hard to do.stevencloser wrote: »I wouldn't be able to eat 200 g of Snickers in one go either. That's 4 bars.
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To be fair, I understand what you are saying and it does seem very annoying. Highly palatable food can also so be highly calorific for little volume making it easier to over consume.
I truly admire people who can eat two small squares of chocolate and be satisfied, I truly do. I just look at it and think "Wut, is that it?"7 -
@ericpiccione - I feel your pain! It took me SIX months to learn how to eat one serving of pizza instead of 3 in a sitting. The first 3 months I was on MFP, I ate no pizza because it's like my kryponite food. I really like pizza though. I figured it out. It's a journey, I'm in for the long haul and I have MFP to back me up in times of trouble.
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No food, in and of itself, is bad for you (absent an individual medical condition) . Any food can be consumed in moderation in the context of an overall healthy DIET.
Stop looking at foods in isolation and trying to rate them good vs bad or healthy vs unhealthy. Look at your overall diet, figure out where you can fit in the foods you love, in an appropriate quantity and frequency.6 -
If by "unhealthy" you mean "high in calories" you may benefit from a different perspective. There are plenty of fun things that are not high in calories, and plenty of things that you might not consider fun that are high in calories. The issues is that you are narrowing your sight with a laser focus on the things you can't indulge in and ignore all the tasty things you can pretty much eat in amounts that are satisfying to you. You are also ignoring all the high calorie things that you are lucky not to like.
The dishes I consider fun can be low calorie like potato and mushroom ragout, others can be high calorie like cauliflower in tahini sauce. I simply have the dishes of the first variety more often than those of the second variety. It sucks that I can't have lasagna often, but it's awesome that I can have cauliflower "alfredo" often (not to be confused as a substitute for real alfredo). I just focus on the awesome. Popcorn, protein fluff, rice pudding, ice cream, meringue pie..etc are all foods that I can eat to satisfaction and be happy without taking a toll on my caloric budget. Look for these foods in your preferences and you will be surprised how many you will find.
Fun things are not unhealthy, being hyperfocused on your limitations is, because it makes things harder for you.2 -
stevencloser wrote: »LucasWilland wrote: »You're getting bad information. The ISSUE isn't really the food. People from all over the world eat what would be deemed "bad" food but don't get the same over weight issues like the US does. The issue is OVER CONSUMPTION.
One can have ANYTHING they want in their diet as long as they hold themselves accountable for the amount of calorie space it takes up in their daily allowed amount.
Now is it better to have more nutrient dense food? Sure. But even nutrient dense is going to ensure that one DOESN'T get overweight.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You're correct. The issue comes down with that it is easier to overeat some foods than others. If you try to have 200 grams of sweet potatoes and vegetables vs 200 grams of Snicker's bars, you will most likely be too stuffed to the gills to want to eat much, which is why both diet quality and quantity is important.
In fact, if you want to take a lean person and get them fat, expose them to an endless supply of hyperpatable foods-- they will easily overeat close to 1000 to 2,000 calories over their maintenance per day.
So the takeaway is that you can include junkier foods in your diet within reason, but it is of crucial importance that they do not become the majority of your diet.
You should never neglect your fruits and veggies just to fit a cinnamon roll in, but if after you meet your micronutrient needs, you still have room, go for it. Just remember that there are no such things as good or bad foods in isolation, but there is such a thing as a bad diet.
I wouldn't be able to eat 200 g of Snickers in one go either. That's 4 bars.
I've eaten a full bag of kit kats in 2 hours before, it's definitely not hard!2 -
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've done that in a single (90-minute) commute home after a rough day at work. It's not hard to do.stevencloser wrote: »I wouldn't be able to eat 200 g of Snickers in one go either. That's 4 bars.
To be fair, neither is 200g of sweet potato and vegetables. An average sized sweet potato here is more than 200g. I have no trouble eating whole ones as a side dish, plus another side of veg and a main. I would be comfortably full, not stuffed.0 -
I personally think it is a matter of getting distorted tastes. Since I have been eating differently, the things that used to taste good are often way too sweet or salty and don't taste as good anymore.0
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I will never understand these posts. There is so much deliciousness in foods that are good for us.1
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did you mean calorie dense?1
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A lot of nutritious and healthy foods are also quite delicious when properly prepared...boiled chicken, steamed broccoli, and steamed rice all of the time, not so much...
Wife's making chicken tika this evening...can't wait for the deliciousness.2 -
Ive just had a kitkat that fitted into my calories and still have 100 remaining you can still eat fun things and be on a diet0
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