Women: how much do you eat NET to maintain
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Thanks everyone! This has been very insightful.
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'NET" is not TDEE. TDEE includes exercise calories.
The MFP method gives you a 'net' calorie number, which is what you eat, PLUS exercise.
I.e MFP says that your 'net' calories is 1600, you then burn 300 exercising.
Technically if you do this everyday, your TDEE is 1900. Your MFP 'net' number is 1600.
I think people gave a mix of answers. Usually people who exercises regularly are offering their TDEE number, which is not (I assume) what the OP is asking for. (will look much higher in comparison)
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Somewhere in the vicinity of 2000 net to maintain. I'm 5'5", weight in the mid-120s, 61 years old. I don't lift weights in any routine organized way, but I have a fair amount of muscle (especially for someone my age, I think). I don't know why it's that high (I'm sedentary outside of intentional exercise) - just lucky.1
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I'm guessing everyone not specifically stating that this is their non-exercise # is offering their TDEE number....0
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annaskiski wrote: »I'm guessing everyone not specifically stating that this is their non-exercise # is offering their TDEE number....
Not me. 2000 (approximately) is the number before exercise. TDEE varies by season (I'm an on-water rower in a region with Winter, and my exercise is a little more desultory in Winter.). TDEE in summer is probably 2300ish or higher. Calculators estimate my NEAT around 1500 based on 5'5", 120s, age 61, sedentary. For me, they're wrong . . . a lot wrong.
Since MFP is a NEAT-based site, I'm a little more skeptical that people are offering their TDEE (though I know that some here prefer to use TDEE, especially in maintenance). I don't think you can infer from the numbers people offer that they're giving the incorrect (i.e., not net-as-MFP-defines-it) number, though they might be.
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No idea what my net is as I don't put much faith in activity/calorie burn calculators and so don't use them.
I'm 46 and 5'6. I maintained within 5 pounds (145-150) on an average of 1700 calories a day for 3 months w/roughly 10K steps a day + 2 hours interval type cardio and 2 hours resistance training.1 -
I eat between 1850-2000 calories at 131.8# at 5'2". I don't pay attention to "net". I feel it's stupid. I follow TDEE as it's simpler for me. If I didn't exercise I'd be maintaining on 1200 calories.2
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My wife is 5'2"-5'3" and will be 42...she fluctuates between 125-135 depending on the time of year...she lifts once per week and is an avid runner...her total (gross) maintenance calories are around 2300...she runs pretty much 5x per week and does a couple of 1/2s annually.1
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I maintain at 2200-2400 calories total (I don't add/subtract exercise). I do CrossFit 3-4 times/week, bike 3-4 hours/week, run 1-2x week. I'm 5'7" and around 150 lb. I've increased my lean mass over the past two years by about 10 lb with lifting and CrossFit.2
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MFP gave me 1470 for maintenance but I kept losing so I upped that to 1600. I walk and run so usually end up eating 2000 or more gross calories. I've been going over a lot lately, but not gaining, so I think even 1600 is probably too low. Now that I'm not race training, I hope to get a better idea of what I actually need.3
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annaskiski wrote: »I'm guessing everyone not specifically stating that this is their non-exercise # is offering their TDEE number....
Can't speak for anyone else - but I did not specifically state this and when I answered 1710 that is my net number as per MFP's calculations.
Not my TDEE.
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Sadly, netting 1500 cal seems to be it.
Happily, I do a whole lot of exercise so I rarely have to eat that low.4 -
I am doing a crappy job at maintaining, partly due to ambitious fitness goals that ramp up my appetite.
5'11, maintaining 154 eating NET between 1400-1600.
Consuming around 2600 TOTAL a day (TDEE according to fitbit is 2750ish to 2800).1 -
Sadly, netting 1500 cal seems to be it.
Happily, I do a whole lot of exercise so I rarely have to eat that low.
Ditto and I'm terrified of getting sick or taking a rest day. I just can't do 1500 calories! On a lazier day I end up around 2400.
I do agree that a lot of people here seem to be confused between TDEE and net calories (which is TDEE without exercise).2 -
Sadly, netting 1500 cal seems to be it.
Happily, I do a whole lot of exercise so I rarely have to eat that low.
Ditto and I'm terrified of getting sick or taking a rest day. I just can't do 1500 calories! On a lazier day I end up around 2400.
I do agree that a lot of people here seem to be confused between TDEE and net calories (which is TDEE without exercise).
Since I seem to be one of the "confused" people, my net calories are my BMR which is around 1200.0 -
Sadly, netting 1500 cal seems to be it.
Happily, I do a whole lot of exercise so I rarely have to eat that low.
Ditto and I'm terrified of getting sick or taking a rest day. I just can't do 1500 calories! On a lazier day I end up around 2400.
I do agree that a lot of people here seem to be confused between TDEE and net calories (which is TDEE without exercise).
Since I seem to be one of the "confused" people, my net calories are my BMR which is around 1200.
Well, net is not BMR either, but nevermind.....2 -
annaskiski wrote: »Sadly, netting 1500 cal seems to be it.
Happily, I do a whole lot of exercise so I rarely have to eat that low.
Ditto and I'm terrified of getting sick or taking a rest day. I just can't do 1500 calories! On a lazier day I end up around 2400.
I do agree that a lot of people here seem to be confused between TDEE and net calories (which is TDEE without exercise).
Since I seem to be one of the "confused" people, my net calories are my BMR which is around 1200.
Well, net is not BMR either, but nevermind.....
Dude, really? You're going to pick it apart now? I know the difference between net and BMR. Okay, here you go.
TDEE 1940
BMR (according to MFP) 1194
Exercise calories (using ShapeSense calulator) 895
NET CALORIES 1045
OMG 155 OFF MY GUESS OF 1200. I SHOULD BURN FOR BEING SO WRONG.4 -
annaskiski wrote: »Sadly, netting 1500 cal seems to be it.
Happily, I do a whole lot of exercise so I rarely have to eat that low.
Ditto and I'm terrified of getting sick or taking a rest day. I just can't do 1500 calories! On a lazier day I end up around 2400.
I do agree that a lot of people here seem to be confused between TDEE and net calories (which is TDEE without exercise).
Since I seem to be one of the "confused" people, my net calories are my BMR which is around 1200.
Well, net is not BMR either, but nevermind.....
Dude, really? You're going to pick it apart now? I know the difference between net and BMR. Okay, here you go.
TDEE 1940
BMR (according to MFP) 1194
Exercise calories (using ShapeSense calulator) 895
NET CALORIES 1045
OMG 155 OFF MY GUESS OF 1200. I SHOULD BURN FOR BEING SO WRONG.
Lol.
I'm guessing you're not burning as much as you think in exercise... because if your net calories were lower than your BMR, you'd still be losing weight (because science).
Although I'm a bit confused about what's considered NET calories. I mean, my EXERCISE calories (like, me going to the gym or purposely going for a walk) are maybe 400-700 calories a day, but I try to stay active otherwise too and sometimes burn another 400 from random 5 to 15 minutes walking during the day... would that count as exercise or not? Because some days I don't purposely go to the gym but still burn 2200 calories with my main activity being just walking in my backyard while watching my puppy, for example (14k steps). BMR is around 1350 and if I don't move much all day (maybe 3000 steps), my TDEE will be 1500 on a good day.
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Net for me IS TDEE because I don't do cardio. My strength training falls into my lightly active lifestyle.3
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I maintain at 2200-2400 calories total (I don't add/subtract exercise). I do CrossFit 3-4 times/week, bike 3-4 hours/week, run 1-2x week. I'm 5'7" and around 150 lb. I've increased my lean mass over the past two years by about 10 lb with lifting and CrossFit.
I'm similar...eat about 2200 cals/day to maintain. I run, do Crossfit, and practice yoga.
ETA I'm 5'6" and 125 lbs1
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