30 days and zero weightloss? Help

Hey everyone,

So I've been logging and tracking for about 30 days or so now and I haven't achieved any weight loss. I've been sitting steady at between 74.5-75kg

Recently I started taking some fat burner (Optiburn) to see if that helps. It's only been a week using that and still nothing.

My average over the week is around 7500kj. I've had a couple of days where I didn't track because of the meals I was eating out but I kept it reasonable.

I regularly go to the gym and do weight training, around 3-4 days a week. Could it be that I'm gaining muscle just as fast as I'm losing the weight? I didn't think that was possible when eating in a deficit.
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  • manuel_kasko
    manuel_kasko Posts: 16 Member
    I've made my diary public for anyone wanting to help.

    I'm 26 years old
    Height of 175cm
    Weight of 75kg
  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
    edited April 2017
    Diary is still closed, sorry!
    *at the time this was posted.
  • zehrjordan
    zehrjordan Posts: 19 Member
    You really aren't that over weight so I think it's definitely possible that you are loosing fat and putting on muscle, and yes you can still put muscle on during a calorie deficient diet as long as you eating plenty of protein. A better measurement would be a skin fold test or just simply take measurements of your mid section and arms and see how they change over a period of time.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    Hey everyone,

    So I've been logging and tracking for about 30 days or so now and I haven't achieved any weight loss. I've been sitting steady at between 74.5-75kg

    Recently I started taking some fat burner (Optiburn) to see if that helps. It's only been a week using that and still nothing.

    My average over the week is around 7500kj. I've had a couple of days where I didn't track because of the meals I was eating out but I kept it reasonable.

    I regularly go to the gym and do weight training, around 3-4 days a week. Could it be that I'm gaining muscle just as fast as I'm losing the weight? I didn't think that was possible when eating in a deficit.

    First, drop the fat burner. They are worthless. Second, no you won't be gaining as much muscle as fat. Even in a surplus with a good progressive overload program, are males limited to around 2 lbs per month. At 1800 calories, I'd highly doubt you would gain much if any muscle.


    Third, are you using a food scale? How many unlogged days are we talking?
  • manuel_kasko
    manuel_kasko Posts: 16 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Hey everyone,

    So I've been logging and tracking for about 30 days or so now and I haven't achieved any weight loss. I've been sitting steady at between 74.5-75kg

    Recently I started taking some fat burner (Optiburn) to see if that helps. It's only been a week using that and still nothing.

    My average over the week is around 7500kj. I've had a couple of days where I didn't track because of the meals I was eating out but I kept it reasonable.

    I regularly go to the gym and do weight training, around 3-4 days a week. Could it be that I'm gaining muscle just as fast as I'm losing the weight? I didn't think that was possible when eating in a deficit.

    First, drop the fat burner. They are worthless. Second, no you won't be gaining as much muscle as fat. Even in a surplus with a good progressive overload program, are males limited to around 2 lbs per month. At 1800 calories, I'd highly doubt you would gain much if any muscle.


    Third, are you using a food scale? How many unlogged days are we talking?

    Yes a food scale and scanning anything that's packaged. Most of my dinners are pre packed meals with nutrition information on them.

    Unlogged days would be about 2-3 over the past 30-35 days. However they haven't been days full of cheat meals or anything like that.

    Breakfast has pretty much consisted of bread and cottage cheese or bread and eggs. Weighted and scanned.

    Lunch has had a mix of packaged meals and home made. Again those were weighted and scanned.

    Dinner as mentioned has been nearly always pre packed or simple easy weighted stuff.
  • manuel_kasko
    manuel_kasko Posts: 16 Member
    Waist = 81cm
    Hips = 103cm

    I'm not really trying to lose loads of actual weight but I'm trying to tone up. I'm what you could call "skinny fat" because I have a gut but I'm rather skinny looking with a shirt on.

  • manuel_kasko
    manuel_kasko Posts: 16 Member
    Diary is still closed, sorry!
    *at the time this was posted.

    At the time of my original post, I had made it public. Maybe it takes a little while to take effect?

    I just checked and it's still showing as public on my end. Hopefully it will change for you soon :)
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Are you exercising and eating back those calories? All of them, or a portion of them?
  • StaciMarie1974
    StaciMarie1974 Posts: 4,138 Member
    Diary still closed.

    Go to settings. Go to Diary Settings. Scroll to bottom, choose Public for Diary Sharing.

    For things you are scanning, are you weighing them also? Package contents can be off by 20% and still meet FDA guidelines. I buy low cal bread that is supposed to be 2 slices = 41 grams and 2 slices is usually 45-49 grams. Just an example.
  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
    You mentioned scanning your food. Are you double checking to make sure the scanned item information matches the food packaging? Scanning items isn't necessarily accurate as all it does is takes you to a database entry. It's just quicker, not necessarily accurate.

    Are you looking going everything including cooking oils, added milk, beverages, fruit, vegetables, condiments?
    Diary is still closed, sorry!
    *at the time this was posted.

    At the time of my original post, I had made it public. Maybe it takes a little while to take effect?

    I just checked and it's still showing as public on my end. Hopefully it will change for you soon :)

    Will check now!
  • manuel_kasko
    manuel_kasko Posts: 16 Member
    Are you exercising and eating back those calories? All of them, or a portion of them?

    Not tracking the exercise because I mainly do weights and not cardio. From my understanding the app can't track burnt calories from weight training due to there being too many variations.

    My work is fairly sedate, sitting at a desk all day and moving computers around the office etc every now and then throughout the day (Gov IT support)

    The app originally gave me a goal of around 1500cal due to the sedate job setting. So I upped it myself to 1750 due to factoring in that I'm going to be working out 3-4 days a week and that would go untracked.

    Online calculators put my maintenance at 2200 calories. So I'm currently eating in a 500 calorie deficit.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    I've made my diary public for anyone wanting to help.

    I'm 26 years old
    Height of 175cm
    Weight of 75kg

    How much weight are you trying to lose? American here, so you're 5'7, 165 lbs...
  • manuel_kasko
    manuel_kasko Posts: 16 Member
    Diary still closed.

    Go to settings. Go to Diary Settings. Scroll to bottom, choose Public for Diary Sharing.

    For things you are scanning, are you weighing them also? Package contents can be off by 20% and still meet FDA guidelines. I buy low cal bread that is supposed to be 2 slices = 41 grams and 2 slices is usually 45-49 grams. Just an example.

    As mentioned, I'm checked the diary settings 2x now and it's still showing as public for me. Must take a while to get it done.

    I have noticed some things I scanned were entered incorrectly and so I fixed them on the spot.

    However I haven't been weighing scanned stuff like bread. I've just presumed that 2 slices was 2 slices.

    I have been weighing and entering things such as oil and butter. Don't really have condiments on my meals but if I do then I enter them as well. Such as gravy.
  • StaciMarie1974
    StaciMarie1974 Posts: 4,138 Member
    edited April 2017
    Are you checking diary settings or privacy-profile settings?
  • comeonnow142857
    comeonnow142857 Posts: 310 Member
    edited April 2017
    So I'm currently eating in a 500 calorie deficit.

    No you're not. You're at maintenance, or close enough to it that any weight loss is being masked for a prolonged period. I would drop conservatively (as your calories are low, but they may be underestimated) by 200 calories/day and see how the next month goes.
  • StaciMarie1974
    StaciMarie1974 Posts: 4,138 Member
  • manuel_kasko
    manuel_kasko Posts: 16 Member
    Are you checking diary settings or privacy-profile settings?

    I've now checked it for the 5th time now.
    Settings, diary settings, diary sharing (public)
    It's been like that since I posted the original comment. Not sure wtf is wrong with it but it's 10000% correct.
  • StaciMarie1974
    StaciMarie1974 Posts: 4,138 Member
    Without access to your food log, how much 'scanned stuff' that is unweighed goes into what you eat?
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    It's hard to tell at this point, so I'll provide the chart so you can attempt to self-diagnose...

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  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
    Still closed:b0gcbx1zxp4p.png

    Are you setting the diary to public?
  • manuel_kasko
    manuel_kasko Posts: 16 Member
    edited April 2017
    Without access to your food log, how much 'scanned stuff' that is unweighed goes into what you eat?

    A lot of my dinners and some of my lunches recently have been from youfoodz. Which are meals delivered fresh and packed. Which I chuck in the microwave and eat. They have all nutritional information and are meant to be healthy easy meals.

    Not too much scanned unweighed stuff happens though. I'd say it's mainly just bread and eggs because they have the (2 slices = ) with the eggs I presume if I buy the 800g 12 pack that each egg should be around 66-65g and if they are a few grams out then that shouldn't matter.

    I've been weighing my breakfast stuff like butter and cottage cheese.

    If I eat takeaway then I make sure to go on their website and check the nutritional information. EG. I've eating a few burrito bowls and used the franchises website to check the information.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    How often do you weight yourself and when did you start the weight training?
  • manuel_kasko
    manuel_kasko Posts: 16 Member
    http://imgur.com/a/6friN
    It's public and has been since I made the very first post guys. Please stop asking if I've made it public.
  • beaglebrandon
    beaglebrandon Posts: 97 Member
    edited April 2017
    If I eat takeaway then I make sure to go on their website and check the nutritional information. EG. I've eating a few burrito bowls and used the franchises website to check the information.

    Big red flag there - burrito bowls.

    If you actually WEIGH out what you're getting, you'll find in many cases restaurants serve 50-100% MORE food than their nutritional information says they do. So it's 50-100% more calories than you thought.

    If you eat something like a sandwich, also make sure that you're actually researching what the calorie count means. For example, subway calorie counts are for 1/2 subs, WITHOUT cheese and WITHOUT any of their high-calorie sauces. Add those and you can in many times double the calories.

    They'll also trick you by saying a serving size of something is, say, 8oz. But then serve the customer 12oz of the product. This is again a 50% increase in calories. I noticed this at an ice cream place near us. The calorie counts for ice cream were listed at 5oz. The smallest cone was 12oz! That's a 65% increase in calories!
  • happyauntie2015
    happyauntie2015 Posts: 282 Member
    I've noticed prepackaged food can still weigh more than the package states. I've noticed it on single serve frozen veggies, lara bars and English muffins for example among other items as well
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    http://imgur.com/a/6friN
    It's public and has been since I made the very first post guys. Please stop asking if I've made it public.

    Hmm... much be a cliche... Are you able to sign on through a web browser?


  • manuel_kasko
    manuel_kasko Posts: 16 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    How often do you weight yourself and when did you start the weight training?

    Weigh myself every morning.
    It fluctuates between 74.5 -75.5kg

    Haven't seen any higher or lower over the past 30 days. Never dropped below 74 and never gone above 75.

    Weight training for around 3-4 months now.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    It's definitely possible that your prepackaged meals are more than what the package is stating.
  • comeonnow142857
    comeonnow142857 Posts: 310 Member
    The calorie counts for ice cream were listed at 5oz. The smallest cone was 12oz! That's a 65% increase in calories!


    That's more than a 100% increase