People in this forum are bitter souls.
Verity1111
Posts: 3,309 Member
It's frustrating that people come on threads just to argue when literally you didn't ask for their opinion. Also annoying when they say your results (weight loss) makes no sense so obviously you cant add simple figures. Forget that some people have different metabolic rates than what is normal - they know everything. Drives me friggin nuts!! If someone doesnt ask for help dont start criticizing what works for them. -_- End rant. I want to start a group here that the entire point of it is to keep any know-it-alls out and really no other focus at all except to keep away that discouraging drama and to celebrate people's accomplishments and answer questions without going off topic. It's like when people say you drive them to drink - they almost drive be to eat. Geeze.
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If you want something private, create that group you mention. Posting to the message boards means that threads are open for comment from everyone as long as they aren't violating the TOS.10
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There's been a lot of this lately....
People get angry over fitness when they are told the truth. There has been a trend of people being angry when being called out for their excuses, but the truth is no one is being bitter, we're all just trying to help people see the light. You can only tip toe around things so much. Look, nothing is fun or easy about "fixing bad life habits" and sometimes it's really hard to hear it. There's been a rash of people lately just... taking it way too personally.
Chin up. Pony up. Do what's right. That's all anyone can do.9 -
Well, starting a group is an option. You should do that if you feel it is needed.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/groups
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A "mean people" thread on a Monday?
Don't worry OP...I doubt you'll be getting much help for anything anymore from veteran members of the community...12 -
ver·i·ty
ˈverədē/
noun
a true principle or belief, especially one of fundamental importance.
"the eternal verities"
truth.
"irrefutable, objective verity"
I find the intolerance here of dieting BS refreshing, useful, and effective. The old-timers here have a lot of truth to share.11 -
It's the Internet...so anonymity causes some people to put aside civil behavior and decent manners that they would use in "real life". Some do this very deliberately. Others really aren't conscious of the fact that they are doing it.
Also, some people just like to argue.
Others are unhappy about something in their life, so take the opportunity anonymity gives them to be rude to other people...I think it must give them a sense of power they lack in their everyday lives.
Some people are just insecure about their own habits, and react very badly whenever somebody states an opinion that something they do is not optimal for health. They take it as a personal attack, when it is really just an opinion about nutrition or exercise.
Finally, some people are actually truly trying to be helpful, but they lack the communication skills to do it in a way that doesn't come across as abrasive. Or, they just lack the patience.
And, on the other side, there are some people who are overly sensitive and are always looking for an insult whether one was intended or not.
All of these types of people exist here. My advice is to not take anything personally...I don't. I either ignore people I find unhelpful, or...if I have the time and inclination...point out why their comment is so unhelpful. Mostly I ignore.7 -
It can be a dog pile sometimes, for sure. Don't worry about it too much.
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It's been my experience that every helpful poster on these forums, every single one, will be called rude, mean, negative, troll, bully, know-it-all, etc. at some point or another no matter how carefully they phrase their advice. Posts like this tend not to be very helpful. When every helpful poster is called out as mean at some point or another, then making a post like this without examples or qualifications just ends up pointing fingers at everyone.
There is some actual rudeness that goes above and beyond what should be acceptable here. Report it (use the actual report function not the flags) or call it out where you see it. But posts like this just add to the negative atmosphere that you're trying to combat instead of solving anything.
And if you want to see better, more nuanced advice on the boards, jump in and give it! Please. Those of us who try to help out get overwhelmed at this time of year. We can't answer everyone. We can't spend hours hand-holding someone who needs it. If you can do that, then help us! Instead of putting down those of us who are trying our best.
Or go start a group. That's always been an option. But insulting everyone because you don't like what some people have to say isn't helpful. These boards don't need any more irony.21 -
Just remember, opinions are opinions and facts are facts. The problem arises when one's opinion tries to refute a fact as wrong. That's just not possible and will be called out (thankfully) by most of the "know it alls".
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Perhaps you might find this thread helpful?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10359984/women-menstrual-cycle-weight-and-fitness-matters#latest1 -
Geocitiesuser wrote: »There's been a lot of this lately....
People get angry over fitness when they are told the truth. There has been a trend of people being angry when being called out for their excuses, but the truth is no one is being bitter, we're all just trying to help people see the light. You can only tip toe around things so much. Look, nothing is fun or easy about "fixing bad life habits" and sometimes it's really hard to hear it. There's been a rash of people lately just... taking it way too personally.
Chin up. Pony up. Do what's right. That's all anyone can do.
If nothing is wrong there's no advice needed so why are they trying to change someone's habits when they're working? Stupidity.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »A "mean people" thread on a Monday?
Don't worry OP...I doubt you'll be getting much help for anything anymore from veteran members of the community...
I am a close enough to veteran of the community. I've been here over 6 years.0 -
tabletop_joe wrote: »It can be a dog pile sometimes, for sure. Don't worry about it too much.
I agree. People here are missing the point too. Giving advice where advice isn't requested or needed = drama or trolling.0 -
diannethegeek wrote: »It's been my experience that every helpful poster on these forums, every single one, will be called rude, mean, negative, troll, bully, know-it-all, etc. at some point or another no matter how carefully they phrase their advice. Posts like this tend not to be very helpful. When every helpful poster is called out as mean at some point or another, then making a post like this without examples or qualifications just ends up pointing fingers at everyone.
There is some actual rudeness that goes above and beyond what should be acceptable here. Report it (use the actual report function not the flags) or call it out where you see it. But posts like this just add to the negative atmosphere that you're trying to combat instead of solving anything.
And if you want to see better, more nuanced advice on the boards, jump in and give it! Please. Those of us who try to help out get overwhelmed at this time of year. We can't answer everyone. We can't spend hours hand-holding someone who needs it. If you can do that, then help us! Instead of putting down those of us who are trying our best.
Or go start a group. That's always been an option. But insulting everyone because you don't like what some people have to say isn't helpful. These boards don't need any more irony.
I didn't ask for help. That's the point of why I'm annoyed. I was asked for people to share their experiences out of sheer curiosity and people came along to start telling me I'm wrong about my own experiences.1 -
OMG @Machka9
Verity, i don't think it's bitterness, it's just people enjoy argument and debate and. just.can.not.walk.away. This is when i bring out this gif
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Just remember, opinions are opinions and facts are facts. The problem arises when one's opinion tries to refute a fact as wrong. That's just not possible and will be called out (thankfully) by most of the "know it alls".
There's a difference between opinions and experiences. If I make a post saying hey how much do you tend to maintain at and we all say different answers and some of us have different levels but our activity is about the same then someone comes along and says "youre liars because you have the same activity and weight so you have the same maintenance" thats not helpful. Obviously we know what works for us and no one asked for advice. It's useless.0 -
Perhaps you might find this thread helpful?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10359984/women-menstrual-cycle-weight-and-fitness-matters#latest
I don't get any so no. People on here are jerks. It's been this way the entire time I've been here. Half are decent the other half jump in threads that have nothing to do with them just to argue. It ruins fun chit chat.1 -
Verity1111 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »It's been my experience that every helpful poster on these forums, every single one, will be called rude, mean, negative, troll, bully, know-it-all, etc. at some point or another no matter how carefully they phrase their advice. Posts like this tend not to be very helpful. When every helpful poster is called out as mean at some point or another, then making a post like this without examples or qualifications just ends up pointing fingers at everyone.
There is some actual rudeness that goes above and beyond what should be acceptable here. Report it (use the actual report function not the flags) or call it out where you see it. But posts like this just add to the negative atmosphere that you're trying to combat instead of solving anything.
And if you want to see better, more nuanced advice on the boards, jump in and give it! Please. Those of us who try to help out get overwhelmed at this time of year. We can't answer everyone. We can't spend hours hand-holding someone who needs it. If you can do that, then help us! Instead of putting down those of us who are trying our best.
Or go start a group. That's always been an option. But insulting everyone because you don't like what some people have to say isn't helpful. These boards don't need any more irony.
I didn't ask for help. That's the point of why I'm annoyed. I was asked for people to share their experiences out of sheer curiosity and people came along to start telling me I'm wrong about my own experiences.
I don't know what you may or may not have asked for as I haven't seen another thread of yours since the great non-clean eating thread (which I'm suddenly glad I never joined). What I do know is that you started a thread to call myself and everyone else on these boards a "bitter soul." Why do that? Why insult all of us when you know how mean people threads will end?3 -
ver·i·ty
ˈverədē/
noun
a true principle or belief, especially one of fundamental importance.
"the eternal verities"
truth.
"irrefutable, objective verity"
I find the intolerance here of dieting BS refreshing, useful, and effective. The old-timers here have a lot of truth to share.
I am an old enough timer here. I dont need their help unless I ask for it.0 -
Verity1111 wrote: »Perhaps you might find this thread helpful?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10359984/women-menstrual-cycle-weight-and-fitness-matters#latest
I don't get any so no. People on here are jerks. It's been this way the entire time I've been here. Half are decent the other half jump in threads that have nothing to do with them just to argue. It ruins fun chit chat.
There's a special board if you just want chit-chat.3 -
If you want something private, create that group you mention. Posting to the message boards means that threads are open for comment from everyone as long as they aren't violating the TOS.
Exactly. And I have a right to complain if I want. This is a motivation and support forum for example and a lot of people commenting are being ignorant and I have a right to say it. Did I ask for your opinion? Nope. I came for support. Not arguments. And yeah they have a right to comment their crazy bs that doesnt apply to the topic but thats also ignorant and not helpful. If someone is posting a thread for FUN why are you sitting there criticising when no one there is asking for your opinion or help other than to be an irritating stick in the mud?0 -
Sooo.. what are you hoping to achieve with this thread?2
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Alatariel75 wrote: »
Won't that make your shoes slippery?
OP, I generally avoid your threads because of these similar reactions, so I really don't know the back story with this one. What are you hoping to get out of this thread?6 -
Gimsteinn1 wrote: »I feel like there's something missing in this post... Like á background story
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10542769/do-any-of-you-find-that-you-seem-to-burn-more-calories-than-typical/p3
People attempted to dispute her burn claims via math. She took offense.5 -
dont worry about it. When you feed the trolls, they get worse. Just be happy with what you are doing and let god light your path! You are doing fantastic 0
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Fighting hard science with personal anecdotes and feelings isn't going to end well.
Creating a thread to whine about bullies will end even worse.
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Gimsteinn1 wrote: »I feel like there's something missing in this post... Like á background story
You want a story ? Just start any topic about sugar and/or low carb.1 -
ver·i·ty
ˈverədē/
noun
a true principle or belief, especially one of fundamental importance.
"the eternal verities"
truth.
"irrefutable, objective verity"
I find the intolerance here of dieting BS refreshing, useful, and effective. The old-timers here have a lot of truth to share.
Well exactly: most "old timers" have been dieting for several years. Useful and super effective, indeed.
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