Am I the only one who can't lose weight?!
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Yes I agree I think that's how it comes into play on here often times...fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »I am assuming you may have done weight watchers in the past as they said you could eat all the fruits and veggies you wanted and have zero points. Well although I am sure most of us didn't get overweight on fruits and veggies to begin with they certainly count calorie wise and if you eat any food in excess of your calorie deficit you will gain. Fruits and veggies are very nutritious - you should be eating them. AS everyone has said ensure you weigh and count everything that goes in your mouth . If you are 100 pounds overweight I cant see why you would only eat 1200 calories a day
I did WW years ago, and that was not a rule when I did it. That was a different version. Just wanted to comment that WW has had many different plans over the years.
I only brought up WW as I did it years ago and that was a rule . Some people still believe it
I remember that and I wasn't even in WW... all the fruit and veggies you could eat and more and not count any of it. I think what happens is those ppl joined and learned that method while it was being taught at WW. Perhaps left WW and came back and figured the rules were the same. Or never went back and started the WW approach and figured fruit and veggies don't need to be counted... because? MAGIC!
I have never understood that rule.. probably because it doesn't make any sense. :laugh: The only thing that comes to mind is selling that mind set to make more $$$$$ for the company. When ppl don't lose weight by counting all the food they remain paying overweight members longer?!0 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »@hearts_2015 I'm thinking you mucked on who you are responding to. @jaydedmiss knows her *kitten*. I think it's @jasmindiver22 you are responding to.
Did I catch them all?
I think so...or was it just that one? 0 -
You NEED to log and measure EVERYTHING. Not logging and saying you can just eat what you want because it's a "healthier" food is stupid. They have calories too and they add up.0
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@jasminediver22 I'm sitting here near the end of my work day having a grand total of 1,543 steps. I know I've got to do something when I get home, but I've been feeling off all week so my step count has sucked.
But if I want to eat like I want to eat (~2,000 cals) and lose weight then I know I need to get off my *kitten* and walk the dogs, or do something.
Even just going for a walk will add to your calorie burn and give you some leeway. I started walking @ 330 lbs last September. Just on a treadmill I already owned from my last weight loss go around. Then I started jogging for a minute. January I was ~275 and started the C25K program. I'm now 245. I'm now considering joining a gym to work on weightlifting, but I'm well on my weight loss journey and there was no way in hell I was going to consider it at 300+.
Start with the scale. Go for a walk. Don't torture yourself and know that, even if it comes across as snark, or judgemental or whatever, most here are rooting for you, want to help and want to see you succeed.3 -
@Tacklewasher wow that's awesome! Good for you that's amazing. Defintly inspired by your story. If you can do it so can I. Ive reached my heaviest weight at 278. My goal is 200 right now, then see how I feel after that. I don't have a specific weight I want to reach after that, or a specific size. I just want to be physically comfortable and happy with myself. I will defintly start out walking. That's simple enough. I think later on once I lose a significant amount of weight I'll start strength training. I don't want to start right away because I want to get the whole food thing down first and controlling myself. I'll defintly keep coming here for advise.4
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JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@Hearts_2015 thanks! I feel so confused on what the heck to do now. Lol. I believe I'm having so much issues because I'm "not weighing foods" condiments or anything, and I'm not active due to a desk job. And average about 3k steps a day if I'm lucky. Not sure what type of exercise I could do with having to lose over 100 pounds. Going to a gym is defintly NOT an option because I'll be judged. So I'd prefer to do at home videos. Possibly P90X. Not sure.
Once you get your intake sorted out, you should be able to start seeing some losses even if you don't exercise, so I wouldn't stress out too much about that just yet. Focus on learning how to log correctly -- and BTW, nobody started off knowing how to do this! I know it seems like everyone is yelling at you to do this one thing, but just about everyone who recommends a food scale is doing it because a scale made a difference for them. I freaking lurve my scale now, because it took so much of the stress out of the equation for me. It doesn't matter if you're eating "bad" or "good" foods; you just need to stay within your calorie budget and you'll lose weight.
Having just said that you don't need to exercise, though...could you start by adding 1,000 steps a day? You don't need to do a whole ton of exercise or start going to a gym. Just a 10-15 minute walk every day.
Great Post! I love love love using my scale, I find it fun, I love the tare feature and adding things to my salad and building meals with it etc.
It's all a game and it's fun to play. Yea I know crazy but I know I'm not the only one that loves to use the scale here!
I feel great freedom using it especially when it results in loose clothing!
I agree learning portion sizes, what foods you enjoy what foods you might need to moderate for a bit (individual needs vary) that keeps a person plenty busy at the start. It's keeping under your goals each day and I don't mean WAY under but meeting your goals by not going over them.
After you feel more comfy at that if you want to add in a short walk at lunch or when you join the YMCA and go for a swim in the pool before or after work... Yes..I said it!
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Hey, there! I think a lot of folks have covered the points about getting a food scale and weighing accurately very well. TBH, I used to think that advice was nuts, but I swear by it, even when building protein shakes. I store the different shakes as meals so if I decide to use them again, I can easily edit the gram weight of the protein powder, PB2, fruit and other components as necessary.
I understand about the desk job, and wanted to know if your place of employment would allow you to have a small piece of equipment, such as an under-desk cycle to keep you moving a little bit? These are like tiny bicycles that you can casually pedal on while working at your desk. Here's a cheaper one from Amazon that has a little activity monitor on it:
https://www.amazon.com/Stamina-15-0125-InStride-Folding-Cycle/dp/B0027ZNH2O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1492643288&sr=8-2&keywords=under+desk+cycle
I used this quite a bit when I worked out of my home. I also packed a pair of 2 lb. dumbbells in my bag to get in a little upper body movement, and keep me from being drowsy midday. I get to work from home a little more now, but these items were beneficial. I also think they helped sway the decision to allow me to telecommute more. The last piece of equipment I started bringing in was a 25-lb grip plate
Humor aside, check to see if your employer has a health incentive program set up. They may be willing to help foot the bill for one of these items, or even a FitDesk
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You NEED to log and measure EVERYTHING. Not logging and saying you can just eat what you want because it's a "healthier" food is stupid. They have calories too and they add up.
@siraphine
@jasminediver22 has got this all sorted out on what works best now after picking up some tips from some MFP veterans...she's on her way to great things!
BTW I'm not sure stupid would be the word I would use... perhaps when you don't know something, you simply don't know it until you've been taught. I think that was the case here. Some ppl come on here and talk about how they don't count fruit or veggies or talk about 'non-calorie' foods. They learn differently and move on from there.
It was nice of you to post out of concern though. Because you're absolutely right, it does add up and if we don't track everything pants get tighter! Now who wants tight pants I asked?!
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crazyycatlady1 wrote: »Peacefulkancer wrote: »Also to note about keto... you can kind of eat as much as you want. It doesn't feel restrictive as you can eat as much meat, nuts, eggs, and other things as you want. But because your body is in ketosis and you're eating high satiety foods, you feel like eating less. If you want... take 4 weeks of trying it... and start with 120g/day of carbs and then reduce by 10g each week until you get to 50g/day or so. Don't feel pressured to be perfect, I cheated a lot in my first month but I was honest about it in tracking my food in MFP.
If you want, send me a friend invite and you can look at my journal and see what I eat - have lots of recipes saved too.
People respond differently to different macros though. I have much better satiety levels with a higher carb woe. Fat does nothing for me and I could easily eat way over my maintenance calories eating a low carb woe. Nuts are really calorie dense for the amount you get-if I'm not measuring out portion sizes I can easily pack away 500 calories or more in cashews or walnuts at a time, without even realizing it. And lets not even talk about bacon
NO kidding. I could eat a pound of bacon without even trying. "Eat all you want" is bunk.1 -
alrightly then.. 3rd times a charmHearts_2015 wrote: »JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@Enjcg5 I literally have calculated my macros, and my height weight age blah blah blah. I've done all that. It says typically 1400 calories for weight loss but I went down to 1200 to see if I can see the scale go down... not yet. Maybe once I get the scale I ordered I'll notice a difference.
egad I'm messing up on this thread! I glanced up and see you've got a scale ordered... cool, I'm excited, which one? Um, or maybe I should backtrack and read the thread in case you already shared that part too? 
Hopefully you ordered the one I want and should be using! :laugh:
@Tacklewasher ugh! You are correct, I grabbed the wrong user name, thanks for catching that and also huge apologies to @jaydedmissTacklewasher wrote: »@hearts_2015 I'm thinking you mucked on who you are responding to. @jaydedmiss knows her *kitten*. I think it's @jasmindiver22 you are responding to.
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I also can't lose weight. When I was overweight and an accurate logger with better self-control I could. Now I'm just crap.
But yeah. You ordered your food scale. You're on your way!2 -
On the flip side, if you feel your calorie in is very low, increase your calorie out by walking every day. It gives you a lot more leeway to eat what you enjoy eating.0
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Peacefulkancer wrote: »
Satiety is a model in chemistry and the human body and how it processes food. Point in case, 200 calories of a steak (all protein and fat) is going to make you feel more full and for a longer period of time than 200 calories of pancakes (all carbs). This is something we've all felt and that is because of the science of chemistry. So while satiety is going to vary slightly between people (I may not feel as full from 200g of steak than you), it isn't generally going to be opposite. Keto helps with your insulin and other body secretions and therefore largely helps with metabolism and hunger. Without controlling your hormones and internal triggers your weight loss journey is going to be rough. Keto helps with controlling these items.GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Peacefulkancer wrote: »Also to note about keto... you can kind of eat as much as you want. It doesn't feel restrictive as you can eat as much meat, nuts, eggs, and other things as you want. But because your body is in ketosis and you're eating high satiety foods, you feel like eating less. If you want... take 4 weeks of trying it... and start with 120g/day of carbs and then reduce by 10g each week until you get to 50g/day or so. Don't feel pressured to be perfect, I cheated a lot in my first month but I was honest about it in tracking my food in MFP.
If you want, send me a friend invite and you can look at my journal and see what I eat - have lots of recipes saved too.
Keto is fine for some but to tell the op that she can eat all she wants on a keto diet is flat out wrong. It's about calories.
To add to this, satiety is individual. Telling the OP that she will definitely feel fuller eating keto and that she will be able to eat all she wants isn't necessarily true. Keto might also be overly restrictive for someone with BED.
OP, baby steps. For now, just start accurately tracking your intake by weighing your food and trying to stick to your calorie goal. I used to believe that all I needed to do was eat healthy foods in order to lose weight and I couldn't have been more wrong. Calories are what matter. It's great that you want to eat a nutritious diet, but for weight loss, how much of that nutritious food you eat matters most.
As for BED and restrictive eating... that is why there are other items listed on my two original posts and that I even put a disclaimer on my keto suggestion. I am doing keto and it doesn't feel restrictive at all - I just can't binge on fast food or each a whole box of cereal anymore, which isn't something anyone should be doing unless they are highly active or looking to gain.
Does everyone just disregard all previous messages. BTW?
There are people who would be more satiated on pancakes than steak because they find starch combined with fat more sating than protein combined with fat.
You can't make blanket statements about satiety.
I wouldn't find a steak satiating because I don't eat meat. I wouldn't find pancakes satiating unless they were paired with protein. I don't find fat satiating, and use it only as necessary to digest the nutrients in vegetables. I find fiber, starch, and protein satiating.
Different strokes for different folks.
The point I'm trying to make to you is that you shouldn't be prescribing keto to a newbie as an answer to all of her problems.
I also should address what you are referring to as your prior binging behavior. It's not the same as binge eating disorder.
A lot of us, and I include myself in this, casually use the word binge to mean incidents of disinhibited eating. That is not what gets people diagnosed with BED. There are a bunch of other symptoms involved with true BED and calling small forays into really making a mess of your control with eating binging is truly doing a disservice to the word binge and cheapening it. I try sometimes to stop myself from being casual with the use of the term, but it's hard.
We've become really bad with our use of language. Everyone's addicted. Everyone's binging. It makes it so that people who have true issues get lost in the noise of lots of people who have minor problems with self-control having a good whine.
So my statement stands. You don't know, from your limited perspective, what keto would do for someone with true Binge Eating Disorder. The restriction would not necessarily be a good thing unless they've been very deeply into therapy.10 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »JasmineDiver22 wrote: »To anyone saying get a food scale, I already ordered one and never thought or heard of that until you guys. Soooo the arguing can stop about it I'll take everyone's advise. Defintly didn't realize I was doing a *kitten* job and trying to lose weight. I for sure thought that if you totally cut all BAD foods that are bad for the heart you could lose weight if you ate strictly healthy. Which I thought I was doing. But obviously not measuring right. I'm new to this weight loss things so I'm not gonna be perfect. Everyone takes different strides, and learns as we go. So I guess this is a lesson learned and I'll start issuing a scale.
I was in the same camp as you.I thought as long as I ate healthy I would lose too,because thats what was all over tv,magazines,etc. I did lose weight eating healthy for awhile,but then I started gaining weight back. I came here to mfp and I learned that I had to weight all my foods(measuring cups werent adequate). once I did that I started losing weight again.so yeah,even eating too many healthy foods can cause weight gain. lots of overweight vegans and vegetarians here to lose weight.
Are you me? I got to my highest weight ever trying to eat the healthiest way I could!
OP, I'm one of those vegetarians who are here who's lost weight. I actually loosened up my diet and added some treat type foods during the process of losing weight compared to how I ate when I was 210 pounds! Sugar never passed my lips then. The only carbs I ever had back then were beans. No potatoes. No grains.
No more of that nonsense is happening in my life. Potatoes are good. So is oatmeal.
I still eat an overwhelmingly healthy diet because I like veggies and find them to be filling. My favorite food in the world is cottage cheese. I'm not exactly a junk food junky. Unless you put caramel corn near me
I just needed to learn proper portions of things like olive oil and yes, my beloved cottage cheese. And things like how many calories my short old body needed to reach a certain weight.
I also became more active, because that helps burn more calories. I started out with walking, but I've also managed to sneak in a lot of purposeful movement throughout the day by being inefficient in my daily life. Walking instead of sitting during phone calls, while something is heating in the microwave or on the stove, putting laundry away one piece at a time, carrying groceries in one bag at a time, parking at the far end of the parking lot... you get the drift.
Think of little things you can do to increase your step count along with with weighing your food and that weight will start flying off!4 -
@MomReborn yes! My work actually has a very nice gym downstairs. I honestly should do that on my 1 hour lunch. That would be the smart idea lol. That way I don't have to do it in the mornings or after work. That would be totally convenient . I just found out we had a gym at work! I think once I get my scale and actually be more precise on everything I eat, and start getting some work outs in, I'll be good! But I'm defintly coming into the MFP when I need advice. You guys all rock!!11
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JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@MomReborn yes! My work actually has a very nice gym downstairs. I honestly should do that on my 1 hour lunch. That would be the smart idea lol. That way I don't have to do it in the mornings or after work. That would be totally convenient . I just found out we had a gym at work! I think once I get my scale and actually be more precise on everything I eat, and start getting some work outs in, I'll be good! But I'm defintly coming into the MFP when I need advice. You guys all rock!!
I just wanted to say that it's so great to see someone taking on board the advice they've been given rather than thinking everyone is just out to get them and flouncing off... we see that quite a bit, so your attitude is commendable and I want to congratulate you on it!
I really do think that once you get your scale and you start weighing and logging accurately (don't forget that finding correct entries in the MFP database is a big part of that too) then you'll start to see some changes. And as others have said, just getting in a few extra steps each day will help... park a little further away, take the stairs if you can manage them, walk over to talk to someone instead of emailing them, go for a 15-minute walk at lunchtime... it all adds up! I'm very sedentary - I've been unemployed for a long time so I have all the time in the world to exercise, but feeling somewhat depressed doesn't inspire me to get up and move so I do very little. I'm lucky to get 3,000 steps a day. But I watch my calories and I'm still losing.
You'll need patience, and you'll need to trust the process - especially when the scale isn't cooperating! - but it does work and you can do it! Definitely come back and ask if you need help with anything, don't be afraid of sounding silly. We all had to learn somewhere. 4 -
JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@MomReborn yes! My work actually has a very nice gym downstairs. I honestly should do that on my 1 hour lunch. That would be the smart idea lol. That way I don't have to do it in the mornings or after work. That would be totally convenient . I just found out we had a gym at work! I think once I get my scale and actually be more precise on everything I eat, and start getting some work outs in, I'll be good! But I'm defintly coming into the MFP when I need advice. You guys all rock!!
OP, it sounds like you've got some great ideas already! My suggestion would be to play around with recipes and macros to find which proportions are most filling/satisfying at lower calorie levels. You can do this! 1 -
Exercise is just as important as diet. Just speaking from what I've learned in college, you could have other issues keeping you from losing weight. Hormones off-balance, thyroid issues. Hopefully not, but thought I'd mention it.1
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I weigh/measure everything, including fruit & veggies. Some have more calories than I thought, like I weighed an orange & was surprised to find it had 80 calories & some veggies are higher than others, like carrots so weigh/measure everything0
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You've gotten some great advice. These guys know their stuff!
I don't have anything to add except GOOD LUCK!1
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