Smaller portions or change your diet?
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I read a lot of people on here (and everywhere else) saying that they eat what they love, just less of it. I like the idea, but I hate the hunger pangs. I'm a big boy and I need my tummy full. So I ask, what works better for you, eating what you love, but small portions or finding alternatives that you can live with, but eating more.
The second option may be easier for me because as fat as I am I don't really love food. I'm an eater of convenience. There are very few foods (cheese) that I really crave, and I'd rather cut it out all together then have to only eat a tiny bit.
Thoughts?
The second option may be easier for me because as fat as I am I don't really love food. I'm an eater of convenience. There are very few foods (cheese) that I really crave, and I'd rather cut it out all together then have to only eat a tiny bit.
Thoughts?
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For many of us with really bad eating habits it's a bit of both. Every meal of mine was calorie dense (fast food, high fat, convenience). I had to change the foundation of each meal into lower calorie and more filling options.
There were things I cut out almost completely like cheese, butter, and various condiments. I do still eat smaller portions of things I previously ate, but not daily like I used to. Some of the meals I used to eat will probably not make it back onto the menu because they don't taste good anymore (which I found fascinating and slightly horrifying).7 -
I eat whatever I want as long as it stays within my calorie goals. I rarely feel hungry and if you set your calorie goals correctly, you shouldn't either. Do whatever works for you. It takes some experimenting and playing around with but this is a lifelong change, not a "diet" that you'll abandon one day.3
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I pretty much changed my diet. It is more focused on vegetables/fruits/meat/dairy/eggs/seeds and I cut out the majority of dessert-type baked goods and crackers/"junk" food. I am not a person who can have a little bit of cake or one cookie or a small bag of chips each day. Doing that would have me thinking about those foods all of the time. It is better for me to have them on special occasions a few times a year, sometimes even in the huge portions that I previously ate them in.6
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A bit of both.
I aim for three good meals a day, filled with lots of vegetables and healthy fats to keep me satisfied. I probably eat less grains but am not grain averse. I can survive a few hours without eating as long as when I do eat it's a proper and satisfying meal with the relevant macros.
I have reduced my portions a little, but try and eat whatever I want to eat.4 -
When I first started counting calories I pretty much just ate like I always had but ate smaller portions. As I've lost weight and my calorie goal has gone down I've also changed some of the foods I eat. As an example, I still eat pizza but I get chicken and veggie pizza now instead of pepperoni with extra cheese. I used to barely meet my protein goal and now I really try to get close to it everyday because it does help keep me from feeling hungry when I eat more protein.0
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DH cooks a lot of delicious dinners so I usually watch my portions so I can still eat what he makes. When in a deficit I don't have a whole lot of options in regards to having my "tummy full", so even then I have to be careful during the day to fit in what he makes in the evening.1
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I pretty much changed my diet. It is more focused on vegetables/fruits/meat/dairy/eggs/seeds and I cut out the majority of dessert-type baked goods and crackers/"junk" food. I am not a person who can have a little bit of cake or one cookie or a small bag of chips each day. Doing that would have me thinking about those foods all of the time. It is better for me to have them on special occasions a few times a year, sometimes even in the huge portions that I previously ate them in.
This is pretty much me.... But I love what I eat. I'm more aware of calories and health than I used to be, I'm also aware that maintaining a healthy body I like to look at, that performs how I like, requires me to fuel it in certain ways most of the time. Most times I choose mountains of nutrient dense/lower calorie foods over small portions of calorie dense. I can't actually imagine eating the foods I used to eat every day anymore!1 -
I shifted more towards the latter for making healthier foods that were more filling for me. I do still partake in some of the more unhealthy foods of the pazf, but because they're normally all carbs and fat in smaller portions, I still have to fit either protein focused snacks or meals afterwards (which can't happen without exercise). Beyond that, I also decreased my salt intake (it works for me personally) and increased my protein intake. I eat with my eyes, so enjoying larger meals is better for me than a slice of pizza with a plate of salad.1
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »I pretty much changed my diet. It is more focused on vegetables/fruits/meat/dairy/eggs/seeds and I cut out the majority of dessert-type baked goods and crackers/"junk" food. I am not a person who can have a little bit of cake or one cookie or a small bag of chips each day. Doing that would have me thinking about those foods all of the time. It is better for me to have them on special occasions a few times a year, sometimes even in the huge portions that I previously ate them in.
This is pretty much me.... But I love what I eat. I'm more aware of calories and health than I used to be, I'm also aware that maintaining a healthy body I like to look at, that performs how I like, requires me to fuel it in certain ways most of the time. Most times I choose mountains of nutrient dense/lower calorie foods over small portions of calorie dense. I can't actually imagine eating the foods I used to eat every day anymore!
Yeah, I really love what I eat.
There are very very few foods that I do not like. Almost every time I hear somebody talking about a food I will think that it sounds delicious and my automatic thought is that I would like a huge portion of it. That's the same for any type of food, from salads to steaks to cakes.3 -
So I ask, what works better for you, eating what you love, but small portions or finding alternatives that you can live with, but eating more.
Well, a lot of the foods I love are high volume foods, like vegetables, so it isn't really one or the other.
For me it was a mix, though.
I didn't cut out anything, but I looked at my diet and lowered the things I thought I would miss least, for satiety and nutrition as well as having a satisfying diet (and I honestly think this IS what is meant when people say eat what you like, just less, since it's common sense).
I realized I was adding more fat calories than I needed to, so I cut that back -- added less oil, used cheese more sparingly, focused on lean meats more often, with bonus points for things like shrimp that are really low cal soures of protein. I also cut back on starches I was eating just because they were there (I don't care about bread that much) and decreased portions of things like pasta and potatoes since I was just as satisfied with less. Basically I cut back on fat and carbs some, not protein, but it was meal specific. I always ate lots of veg, but added more so the amount of food on my plate if anything increased.
I also realized I was eating some degree of stuff I didn't care about between meals, because it was there, largely things that were at work (if someone gave us cookies, I should eat them because they were there, if stressed, get peanut M&Ms from the bowl that was out, if stuck there late, eat some Kind bars). I stopped that. Not against including some sweets in my diet, but I want it to be things I actually love and will eat less of them in order to fit in the good things.
I also had a habit of overeating at restaurants, which I did at least weekly. I stopped being so indulgent as it is weekly and now order more mindfully and don't think I need an app or dessert and if portions are big I bring some home. Some things I LOVE and don't want to eat in small amounts (Indian food, Ethiopian) so I get them monthly or less, and often combine with a long run or other long workout. I originally tried to order carefully at my favorite Indian place (no naan, little rice, tandoori chicken) and then said forget it, I'll go less and skip lunch before or otherwise make plans to just eat what I want and fit it in.4 -
A bit of both. I don't eat things I don't like.
I'll have smaller portions of calorie-dense foods than I used to have and larger portions of veggies for volume. That gives me a full stomach but with fewer calories than I used to have to get that full stomach.2 -
A bit of both. Some years ago, I started working my way through the 1,000 Vegan Recipes cookbook in order. I started in snacks, moved through hot and cold appetizers, salads, etc. When I started MFP I was just about finished with the Italian pasta and ready to move on to Asian noodles. And I... really didn't want to abandon the project. And I didn't. I made those noodle dishes (and went on to the beans section, where I am now) and found lower-calorie, nutrient-dense options for the rest of my food. Instead of snacking on stuff like Terra chips, it became string cheese or veggie dogs or popcorn. A bit more fruit in my diet. Extra vegetables. And yes, some moderate high-calorie options once a week. I've also upped my exercise, which gives me more room to play.
So far, so good!2 -
My approach has been a combo. I know that things like candy and cookies are HUGE triggers for me so I've cut them out almost entirely. If I do indulge I make sure I track it all to a T so I can see the impact.
I eat breakfast and lunch at work so I've started bringing my own every day rather than utilizing the cafeteria. I mix it up and always include a large salad or some raw veggies. I keep nuts and seeds in my desk for an afternoon snack.
Dinners are where I'm still eating what I did before, just less. I cook for my family just about every night. I just make sure I include a salad (again!) or some extra veggies/fruit to bulk up my plate. I calculate all of my recipes in MFP and try to keep dinner to 500 calories max. Yes, some days I go over but I can't beat myself up for it.
All in all, I think it's trial and error for everyone! Good luck finding your path1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »So I ask, what works better for you, eating what you love, but small portions or finding alternatives that you can live with, but eating more.
Well, a lot of the foods I love are high volume foods, like vegetables, so it isn't really one or the other.
For me it was a mix, though.
I didn't cut out anything, but I looked at my diet and lowered the things I thought I would miss least, for satiety and nutrition as well as having a satisfying diet (and I honestly think this IS what is meant when people say eat what you like, just less, since it's common sense).
I realized I was adding more fat calories than I needed to, so I cut that back -- added less oil, used cheese more sparingly, focused on lean meats more often, with bonus points for things like shrimp that are really low cal soures of protein. I also cut back on starches I was eating just because they were there (I don't care about bread that much) and decreased portions of things like pasta and potatoes since I was just as satisfied with less. Basically I cut back on fat and carbs some, not protein, but it was meal specific. I always ate lots of veg, but added more so the amount of food on my plate if anything increased.
I also realized I was eating some degree of stuff I didn't care about between meals, because it was there, largely things that were at work (if someone gave us cookies, I should eat them because they were there, if stressed, get peanut M&Ms from the bowl that was out, if stuck there late, eat some Kind bars). I stopped that. Not against including some sweets in my diet, but I want it to be things I actually love and will eat less of them in order to fit in the good things.
I also had a habit of overeating at restaurants, which I did at least weekly. I stopped being so indulgent as it is weekly and now order more mindfully and don't think I need an app or dessert and if portions are big I bring some home. Some things I LOVE and don't want to eat in small amounts (Indian food, Ethiopian) so I get them monthly or less, and often combine with a long run or other long workout. I originally tried to order carefully at my favorite Indian place (no naan, little rice, tandoori chicken) and then said forget it, I'll go less and skip lunch before or otherwise make plans to just eat what I want and fit it in.
All of this.
I already ate a very healthy diet before starting to lose weight. I was a 210 pound whole foods vegetarian whose carb consumption was limited to beans and vegetables. I just ate too much and had a very heavy hand with olive oil.
In fact, I've added some things back into my diet since I've started losing weight like the occasional candy or cookie depending on my calorie allowance for the day and whether I'm in a maintaining phase or losing phase.
I've always looked at this process as a life-long endeavor at looked at ways to maximize my satisfaction with my diet in terms of nutrition, satiety, and satisfaction.
I've had a weight problem for years (since I was a pre-teen). I've dieted on and off for over 40 years. I've gone the route of cutting things out completely and found that over the long haul, it doesn't work. There are some foods I only ever eat once or twice I year, mind you, but I haven't cut them out of my life completely. If something is tasty enough that I still want it in my life, I fit it in either by having it very infrequently (boardwalk caramel corn and french fries that I only have on vacation or my mother's cheesecake recipe that I only make at Christmas) or in smaller portions every now and then (a Snickers bar or Reece's Cups on days when I do a long run that I buy in a single portion going through the grocery check out line).2 -
A bit of both...
I still eat say pizza, but I eat less of it and round out the meal with a salad. I still eat spaghetti, but I eat less pasta and round out the meal with roasted vegetables. Little changes like that so that I don't miss my favorite foods, but I also don't feel deprived.3 -
I do both. I now may only eat one slice of my favorite pizza with salad as a side, instead of two slices. I do typically choose healthier options but sometimes I just want a cheeseburger and I fit it into my limit.1
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I completely understand how you feel! I'm an overeater and I have certain foods (pizza, macaroni and cheese) that I really LOVE to stuff myself with. I'm not sure that I can easily eat smaller portions of those foods. So what I've been trying is to eat them less often and if I do eat them then I try to plan my day around it.
I don't want to cut anything out of my diet completely. I've tried that before and I ended up giving up...several times.
Edited to add - I have also been trying to change some of how I eat. I actually really like veggies but I wasn't eating them like I should because it was just easier not to. I've been finding ways to add them to my diet. For me though, I also need to try to teach myself not to need to feel stuffed to feel full.0 -
I'd rather have a huge salad with grilled chicken, raw veggies, a tsp. of an oil with vinegar and some feta cheese than one slice of plain pizza. But for a "treat," I'm happy to have a very small cookie or even a quarter of a brownie to get the taste than have a large bowl of a tasteless, fake-sugar-filled treat. I guess it depends if I'm actually hungry (then I go for high volume & healthy) or want a little something sweet (then I'd go for what I want, but a very small amount.)1
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I note that almost everyone has said some variation of "A bit of both." Me too.
You have to find what works for you. I didn't intentionally cut out any foods, but there are plenty of things that I used to regularly consume that I really don't eat anymore. In contrast, some things that I really like I find that I eat more often, because I make sure to include them in my dietary strategy.
Some things in life call for binary choices: diet is not one of them.1 -
Another vote for "both". I find that as I cut portions to stay within calorie targets I then end up with macro issues (because not all food has the same nutrition value). For example, I had to find protein rich foods else lower cals would leave me too hungry (and susceptible to binging).
As noted above I also stay away from trigger foods (mostly ) but I do still eat what I like, probably less often though. Eating what I like is often a treat/reward based on major activity.0 -
Both. I cut out almost all refined carbs and desserts while I'm in weight-loss mode. Instead, I eat delicious high-quality proteins (organic farm-raised meats, handmade cheeses, walnuts) so those become my luxuries. I eat big servings of veggies like kale and broccoli. If I'm at a potluck or picnic, I eat everything but just in very very small quantities.0
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I'm still finding my balance on this. I have been eating less and counting my calories, which does force me to make choices. However i am trying to teach myself how I'm going to be eating for the rest of my life, so I am not cutting things out completely. For me, long term, that is just not sustainable. The best way to go is to teach myself what proper portions look like, and feel like once I've eaten them. My body is adjusting, slowly, but it is getting there. Yes if I make a choice to eat something that is carb heavy I end up hungry, but usually a low cal high fiber snack like carrots, or apples fix that.0
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I read a lot of people on here (and everywhere else) saying that they eat what they love, just less of it. I like the idea, but I hate the hunger pangs. I'm a big boy and I need my tummy full. So I ask, what works better for you, eating what you love, but small portions or finding alternatives that you can live with, but eating more.
The second option may be easier for me because as fat as I am I don't really love food. I'm an eater of convenience. There are very few foods (cheese) that I really crave, and I'd rather cut it out all together then have to only eat a tiny bit.
Thoughts?
Losing weight is step 1 - elimination diets only help with step 1
Step 2 is the life long changes you will need to keep the weight you lost off. A smaller you will require (somewhat) fewer calories forever.
The thing that works best for me is a combination. There are foods I crave. But measuring portions and logging them is a great learning experience. It puts them in perspective.
I can't snack as much as I used to and expect to keep the weight off. So I make sure meals are filling (protien, fiber & fat) and "allow" a portion of my calories for snacks.0 -
I do both. Ex- I get a craving for McDonalds. I go and get the kids meal, then eat it with a couple pieces of fruit, and maybe a boiled egg.0
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I made some significant changes to what I eat, tried to find substitutes for certain things, and practice portion control on others. I agree it is important to find food that keeps you satiated and energized. Although from a calorie point of view you could lose weight eating beer, donuts, and pizza, very few people can accomplish this because it would be a rather small amount of food. Not to mention it results in lack of nutrition which is essential to your overall and long term health.0
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Both...
I made it a point to address my nutrition and make that better...my diet when I started was sorely lacking in veg and fruit and I ate a lot of fattier cuts of red meat, pizza, Taco Bell, and drank a ton of soda. I didn't make wholesale changes overnight...I addressed things a bit at a time...started making it a point to eat more veggies until I was having them with most every meal...some fruit as a snack rather than my potato chips...brown bag breakfast and lunch instead of going out...more fish and chicken, etc. Like I said, this all evolved over time...I did it kinda piece meal which made things easier.
As I made these changes, other things just naturally fell by the wayside. 4.5 years later, my diet is pretty rockin' on the nutrition front (and also delicious...I'm pretty good in the kitchen)...but I still have pizza night on Friday evenings for example...the big difference between now and then is that my wife and I split a small pie, and usually there are a couple of slices left over whereas before we would get a medium or large and eat most of it.0 -
I feel like it almost has to be a combination of the two for long term success. I make better choices during my main meals to make a few extra calories in my day for a little bit of a sweet treat at night. It all fits into my daily calorie goals. Now whether you have something you love everyday in a small portion or whether you allow your self to have a larger portion as a special treat every now and then- is a personal preference. And you may find that what you crave changes as you change your eating habits.0
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I ended up doing both. I think most people do. Even those that go on paleo or other stricter diets typically have some foods that don't change, or have a 'cheat meal' occasionally, or something of that nature.
Given you don't really love most of what you eat now, you may be one of the few where a complete diet overhaul would be practical. I'd only recommend it if you think your current diet is nutritionally deficient or some other diet sounds interesting to you. Otherwise, I'd just sub out some high calorie/low volume items for low calorie/high volume items and experiment until you have something that you're comfortable with.
I would not completely cut out the cheese if that's the one thing you really enjoy. Unless it's something you just can't stop eating - but I didn't get that from your post.0 -
I'm also going to say both. Some things I just had to cut out. My calorie goal is 1200. Before I started dieting I was eating multiple Zaxby's meals per day. Just one of those is 1000 calories. Since "a bite" of a Zaxby's meal wasn't going to be filling, it just had to go. Same thing with sodas. I used to have a regular cherry coke everytime I was thirsty, but that wasn't going to work either, so first I switched to just water, now I'm slipping in the occasional diet coke.
For other things, I just found ways to make them fit with little substitution. I love ground beef burritos. I used to have maybe three of those Mission Hill tortillas, meat, cheese, and sour cream, probably came out to about 850 calories. I switched to 50 calorie high fiber tortillas and squeezed the same amount of meat onto only two tortillas, switched to fat free cheese, greek yogurt instead of sour cream and now they're ~300 calories. It's not really even smaller portions, just less calorie dense.
I think you find whatever works. If you're not that into food, then a lot of experimenting may not be fun for you, but I'd definitely recommend getting more comfortable reading labels and finding things that are lower in calories than whatever you were eating before.1
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