Advice please 1 stone 3 months

jessreece434 · April 2017

Hi

I am new to this I am a 27 year old female and I am getting married in August 2017.
I eat very well as since January I have been seeing a PT. I go to a HIT bootcamp Monday / Friday 6am and train with my PT on a Wednesday .
Slowly I can see a change but scales say the same. (Yes , I know to keep off them) I want to loose belly fat / 1 stone in 3 months .

PT has reccomend the following

2 omega 3 capsules daily
1000 Cals
100g carb
100g protein
20g fat

No gluten
No alcohol
Train 3 times and I will be were I need to be.

Thoughts on this please ?
I am 11st 12 I have been this weight the last 11 years with not much excercise and a good diet I maintain this .

Thanks

Jess

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld · April 2017

Your macros don't add up.

Did he say why you are to eat so little whilst exercising?

jessreece434 · April 2017

No , he said follow his advice and use this app to make sure I do. He didn't say anything about upping anything on training days. I am new to this all and with the wedding being 4 months away final dressing fitting in 3 I want to make sure I am getting the best advice . PT seems good and is a nutritionist as well . Thanks Jess

thischick25 · April 2017

If you're training, you're going to be gaining muscle, which will stabilize your weight. Take and keep track of neck, waist, hip, thigh measurements instead of focusing on the scale, and you might see that you are losing girth in places even though your weight hasn't changed.
My husband is dieting and exercising with me, and he just noticed today that even his fingers have gotten thinner, although his weight loss has slowed.

TavistockToad · April 2017

There's no need to eat so little. Use mfp and set your loss to 1lb per week.

Have you asked your PT why those macros?

janejellyroll · April 2017

thischick25 wrote: »

If you're training, you're going to be gaining muscle, which will stabilize your weight. Take measurements instead of focusing on the scale, and you might see that you are losing girth in places even though you weight hasn't changed.

Nobody is going to be gaining muscle weight on 1,000 calories a day.

zyxst · April 2017

I'd stop listening to your trainer about nutrition advice. Are you allergic to gluten? Are you a drunk snacker (eat too much while drinking)? Why the omega capsules?

Put your stats into MFP for half a pound a week loss. Eat that amount and some of your exercise calories. You don't need to cut out gluten and alcohol and take pills to lose weight.

jessreece434 · April 2017

This app told me to eat 1200 calls per day I told the PT this and he said no 1000 calls don't listen to app. Omega3 for the heart also helps with weight loss . (He sells the stuff ) don't snack at all when I drink ... wierdly brush my teeth twice and make sure make up is off but I don't like eating when I have had a drink . No allergies at all or problems with gluten .. he said stop gluten and avoid dairy ... have carbs such as sweet potato . Brown rice and quinoa. (No problem as I eat this anyway and don't have a problem meal prepping)
I am due to be remapped in two weeks were I will be measured so I am trying to not get on the scales. Thanks

TavistockToad · April 2017

jessreece434 wrote: »

This app told me to eat 1200 calls per day I told the PT this and he said no 1000 calls don't listen to app. Omega3 for the heart also helps with weight loss . (He sells the stuff ) don't snack at all when I drink ... wierdly brush my teeth twice and make sure make up is off but I don't like eating when I have had a drink . No allergies at all or problems with gluten .. he said stop gluten and avoid dairy ... have carbs such as sweet potato . Brown rice and quinoa. (No problem as I eat this anyway and don't have a problem meal prepping)
I am due to be remapped in two weeks were I will be measured so I am trying to not get on the scales. Thanks

Omega 3 because he sells the stuff.... :huh:

janejellyroll · April 2017

jessreece434 wrote: »

This app told me to eat 1200 calls per day I told the PT this and he said no 1000 calls don't listen to app. Omega3 for the heart also helps with weight loss . (He sells the stuff ) don't snack at all when I drink ... wierdly brush my teeth twice and make sure make up is off but I don't like eating when I have had a drink . No allergies at all or problems with gluten .. he said stop gluten and avoid dairy ... have carbs such as sweet potato . Brown rice and quinoa. (No problem as I eat this anyway and don't have a problem meal prepping)
I am due to be remapped in two weeks were I will be measured so I am trying to not get on the scales. Thanks

Your trainer is giving you a calorie goal that is 200 calories below the lowest a woman should generally eat. And he's having you exercise on top of that and profiting off of selling you "supplements." He is recommending arbitrary restrictions that have nothing to do with weight loss (like eliminating gluten and dairy). He has given you macronutrient goals that don't add up to his calorie goal, suggesting that he either doesn't understand how macro goals work or that he just can't be bothered to be accurate.

These are all warning signs that you are not in the hands of a legitimate professional.

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld · April 2017

Omega 3 does nothing for weight loss. It is oil and has calories. It is very good for you though.

I would not be taking dietary advice from him as he clearly doesn't know what he is talking about food wise.

Dairy is great protein and gluten has no down side unless you react to it.

jessreece434 · April 2017

Hmmm ... glad I asked ... the PT is super lovely , explains things very well excercise wise just not so in depth with nutrition and has so far taught me a lot during the PT classes . He dosent appear to make much of the omegas and dosent push them on me at all . Just reccomends I take them daily . He's not the best with getting back to me communication wise ... I am showing him my food diary Sunday so will be interesting to see what he says when I ask a few questions.
If I get told to carry on with what I am doing after asking questions shall I find a new PT guys ?

Thanks

TavistockToad · April 2017

jessreece434 wrote: »

Hmmm ... glad I asked ... the PT is super lovely , explains things very well excercise wise just not so in depth with nutrition and has so far taught me a lot during the PT classes . He dosent appear to make much of the omegas and dosent push them on me at all . Just reccomends I take them daily . He's not the best with getting back to me communication wise ... I am showing him my food diary Sunday so will be interesting to see what he says when I ask a few questions.
If I get told to carry on with what I am doing after asking questions shall I find a new PT guys ?

Thanks

If you like the training, why not just say you'll stick with that but don't want to talk about nutrition as you use MFP

janejellyroll · April 2017

jessreece434 wrote: »

Hmmm ... glad I asked ... the PT is super lovely , explains things very well excercise wise just not so in depth with nutrition and has so far taught me a lot during the PT classes . He dosent appear to make much of the omegas and dosent push them on me at all . Just reccomends I take them daily . He's not the best with getting back to me communication wise ... I am showing him my food diary Sunday so will be interesting to see what he says when I ask a few questions.
If I get told to carry on with what I am doing after asking questions shall I find a new PT guys ?

Thanks

If you like his approach to exercise, you could always just use him for exercise and ignore his calorie goal/food restriction advice.

1,200 is the lowest a woman should go and if someone is eating that little, they should also be eating back at least a portion of their exercise calories. It's hard for anyone to meet their nutritional needs on 1,000 calories a day and with the exercise, you are netting even less than that. That is what concerns me about your trainer's advice.

jessreece434 · April 2017

He won't train me without nutrition as well as this is the way he works . Currently doing joint PT with a friend we pay £100 each per month for 4 sessions and nutrition advice . (Includes bootcamp twice per week)

janejellyroll · April 2017

jessreece434 wrote: »

He won't train me without nutrition as well as this is the way he works . Currently doing joint PT with a friend we pay £100 each per month for 4 sessions and nutrition advice . (Includes bootcamp twice per week)

Nutritionally, his advice is worse than pointless -- it's potentially harmful, putting you at risk for muscle loss, low energy, gall bladder problems, and hair loss. I wouldn't want to pay someone to hurt me. If I was inclined to starve myself, I could do that for free.

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld · April 2017

jessreece434 wrote: »

He won't train me without nutrition as well as this is the way he works . Currently doing joint PT with a friend we pay £100 each per month for 4 sessions and nutrition advice . (Includes bootcamp twice per week)

There is no way I would pay some one who can't even give you accurate macros for the goal he set.

jessreece434 · April 2017

Thanks guys ... lacking in energy to get my self to the gym and train . I will ask him next week see what he says . If it's the same advice I will go elsewhere. Thanks for advice !!

SezxyStef · April 2017

fire him. You can find an online coach for less than that with more experience and better advice...if you need a few names send me a note...@sidesteel is one of them.

jessreece434 · April 2017

Sezxystef ... yes please ... I don't know how to send a note on here ... sorry pretty new !

BruinsGal_91 · April 2017

jessreece434 wrote: »

Thanks guys ... lacking in energy to get my self to the gym and train . I will ask him next week see what he says . If it's the same advice I will go elsewhere. Thanks for advice !!

On 1,000 calories, I think we can safely file that one under "no kitten, Sherlock".

jessreece434 · April 2017

Pretty glad I posted this now ... instead of £400+ down and feeling crap in my wedding dress ! Conversation next week may be interesting x

PaulaWallaDingDong · April 2017

If you're really in love with the training aspect, you could always lie about what you're eating. It shouldn't be that way, but it's an option.

On the other hand, if you were to be honest about not following the nutritional advice, but he insists on it and is stupid enough to turn down your money if you don't do it his way, he can go stuff it.

pennygm72 · April 2017

I would suggest that you don't have to take his "nutrition" advice simply because it's part of the package, you're obviously in the UK, he doesn't sound like a trained dietician..and neither am I, however it seems odd that he recommends you use MFP but also to ignore its safety functions...regardless, you are the client, you can decide what you want to listen to and what to ignore and I would with previous posters that his calorie recommendations seems way off, on days when you are exercising there is a risk you will be consuming less than 700 calories net. Anyway congratulations on the upcoming wedding, I hope you enjoy a long and very happy marriage

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld · April 2017

jessreece434 wrote: »

Pretty glad I posted this now ... instead of £400+ down and feeling crap in my wedding dress ! Conversation next week may be interesting x

Worse than that, 3 months netting that low could mean you lose your hair by then.

jessreece434 · April 2017

I bald and skint bride :-) thank you for the well wishes I will carry on eating healthily and with bootcamp until I see him at the weekend and ask him.

YalithKBK · April 2017

Step 1: Fire PT.

jessreece434 · April 2017

I want to hear what he has to say first. Can anyone reccomend were I can get some proper advice online ? Some sort of plan to follow ?

SideSteel · April 2017

Lately I've become more and more hesitant to comment on what other coaches do, only because I've seen all kinds of examples where there could be misunderstandings or missing information.

In this case let me be incredibly clear that I only base these comments on the provided information:

1) The fact that he sells supplements should be one big red flag. The majority of accredited certification programs will specifically instruct trainers to not sell or recommend supplements because it's against scope of practice of a personal trainer.

Being in a (perceived) position of authority makes this even worse, because it's very easy for a trainer to say "you really need this supplement, it will help you burn fat (or build muscle)" followed by "I happen to sell it'.

I find that incredibly disingenuous.

2) If he actually said something about taking your make-up off (I swear I read that above) he's probably a Biosig coach which is a system Charles Poliquin invented, and it's incredibly bad as far as the nutritional content. I can't comment on the training aspect of things and I've actually heard that Poliquin does a great job with the TRAINING part, but man his nutritional advice is LAUGHABLY bad, and he passes it off as scientifically valid when it's not even in the ballpark of scientific.

3) Your calorie intake and fat intake are quite low.

If you DO decide to take his advice, I WOULD also take a fatty acid supplement but it's not because of fat burning properties it's because your dietary fat is incredibly low and so you have less opportunity to meet essential fatty acid needs, which means you may need to supplement.

jessreece434 · April 2017

Sidesteel .. Thankyou . He isn't pushy with supplements but does strongly reccomend the omega 3 he also sells it cheaper to me than I can get online .

He didn't say anything about make up some one asked if I ate when drunk Jokingly I said I never eat but I religiously take my make up off and brush my teeth twice (must be a weird habit when most of my friends are tucking into a pizza like a normal drunk )

Thank you for your advice I do appreciate it . I will go back to him and ask some more questions and see his response . It's a shame as I enjoy the training just lacking in energy and I he's very vague with his nutrition advise

jessreece434 · April 2017

After seeing all of the comments above I am not stupid enough to carry on taking his advice. I want results but also want to stay healthy , not starve my body and loose my hair !
If I don't get the answers I want next week or more in depth advice on nutrition I will look at using a new different PT and see if he will still allow me to attend his bootcamp sessions .

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