So... why the kitten is there soy in everything?

I don't mind soy lecithin, tastes quite nice sprinkled on oats etc.

It's cheap.

annacole94 wrote: »

Want to know what's fun? Some babies can't tolerate the mom eating soy if they're breastfed. And yes, it's in everything. It's cheap and effective, so it's everywhere.

This was my eldest and I. He had Milk Soy Protein Intolerance(MSPI). Which is completely different than being lactose Intolerate BTW. I had to go on a special diet. Even some spices have soy in it. I had to be very very careful, basically ate very fresh and not a whole lot of processed anything. It was nerve wracking trying to make sure my food was safe. And I LOVE dairy. I tried the version of cheese without soy or milk.....I have nothing nice to say about it. It made it almost impossible to eat out or even eating at other people's houses(like parents when we visited). Thankfully he out grew it by the time he was one and I don't have to worry about him being in pain and miserable from accidentally eating something with milk and or soy.

So I feel yah. If milk wasn't in something, soy was usually bound to be.

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For the same reasoning HFCS is "in" everything.

Lounmoun wrote: »

It doesn't concern me that my packaged food has soy as a common additive. Why does it concern you if you do not have an allergy?

In my case, the phytoestrogens in soy causes benign breast cysts. Small incidental amounts seem OK but I do have to watch how much I ingest.

cmtigger wrote: »

earlnabby wrote: »

Lounmoun wrote: »

It doesn't concern me that my packaged food has soy as a common additive. Why does it concern you if you do not have an allergy?

In my case, the phytoestrogens in soy causes benign breast cysts. Small incidental amounts seem OK but I do have to watch how much I ingest.

But why should it bother people who don't have a medical issue with soy.

I'm allergic to dogs and apples. I don't claim that they are bad for everyone, just bad for me. Apples are in a lot of things as a sweetener.

I do get angry at people who bring their dogs everywhere and lie that they are service dogs, but that doesn't just hurt me, it hurts people with real service dogs. (It's common where I live and there was recently a thread on a local Facebook group where people admitted to it.)

I guess I am misunderstanding your issue. The OP is wondering why there is soy in so many things. That is a valid question because it doesn't seem to be necessary to include it in some of the things that DO contain it.

You are right though, in the end it only affects those who have medical issues with it.

It should bother people who are not aware of soy's presence in their food and that it is a phytoestrogen and a goitrogen and allergen. Even medics are not always aware these trivial things will add to oestrogen dominance which amplifies a tendency to a range of health issues.

The problem is you often don't know about these things till you have been having irritating, increasing none specific issues for a very long time, that's if you're lucky. As an intolerance soy can induce the usual allergy like responses, repertory problems, rashes, digestive problems - to less frequent and none specific abdominal pain. Ultimately it can cause anaphylaxis, and without an eppi pen, its curtains.

So as the OP askes, Why is soy in so many food products? When it causes life restricting issues for so many and life limiting problems for others.

I really wish international governments would think and keep up to date with all the allergies and intolerances their populations are subjected to. I've know for 5 years, since she was born, my youngest granddaughter was diagnosed with soy allergy when she could not take milk and reacted to the soy substitute the hospital gave her!

Its impossible to expect a 5 year old not to want the bar of chocolate like her class mates, that she has to think she can't have her brothers home made birthday cake because it will contain soy (its in many margarines and we know to avoid it) and she will have difficulties were she to go to a friends party.

Today I discovered her sisters G-d's 2 and 3, are now also diagnosed with soy allergies. This allergy can extend to other beans.

(I'd go for soy being in the tea to keep the leaves apart in the same way maize starch is put into bought in catering bags of grated cheese both maize and soy are very cheep)

annacole94 wrote: »

Want to know what's fun? Some babies can't tolerate the mom eating soy if they're breastfed. And yes, it's in everything. It's cheap and effective, so it's everywhere.

This was me 2 years ago. I stupidly tried herbal life which is nothing but soy and my son had a horrible reaction while I was breastfeeding. He wouldn't eat or sleep for 2 days. I had to give him frozen milk and pump and dump until it was out my system. Prior to herbal life I didn't eat soy... Or well intentionally and in high doses. After that experience Ive noticed it's in everything! That and corn... Smdh

Fuzzipeg wrote: »

The thing is. Where extraneous hormones like phytoestrogen, which mimic oestrogen causing oestrogen dominance and significant health problems, including cancer, and can morph into mitochondrial problems, it costs many the quality of their lives if not actually their lives.

Allergies Kill. I don't think anaphylaxis is nothing. It most often happens without any warning. I realise my families issues are fortunately limited and can be avoided if one never eats out, never eats mass produced foods.

Are we happy for unnecessary additives, like soy in tea, to be in our food chain when it causes all the above for unsuspecting people.

I have food allergies. I read every label. There is no reason to ban things because some might react. There already are labeling laws that the most common allergens need to be listed in bold.

And it may be in a lot- but it hasn't been in anything I ate today, which included small servings of chips and candy.

From https://www.fda.gov/food/ingredientspackaginglabeling/foodadditivesingredients/ucm328728.htm

How can I know if there is MSG in my food?

FDA requires that foods containing added MSG list it in the ingredient panel on the packaging as monosodium glutamate. However, MSG occurs naturally in ingredients such as hydrolyzed vegetable protein, autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed yeast, yeast extract, soy extracts, and protein isolate, as well as in tomatoes and cheeses. While FDA requires that these products be listed on the ingredient panel, the agency does not require the label to also specify that they naturally contain MSG. However, foods with any ingredient that naturally contains MSG cannot claim “No MSG” or “No added MSG” on their packaging. MSG also cannot be listed as “spices and flavoring.”

Fuzzipeg wrote: »

The thing is. Where extraneous hormones like phytoestrogen, which mimic oestrogen causing oestrogen dominance and significant health problems, including cancer, and can morph into mitochondrial problems, it costs many the quality of their lives if not actually their lives.

Allergies Kill. I don't think anaphylaxis is nothing. It most often happens without any warning. I realise my families issues are fortunately limited and can be avoided if one never eats out, never eats mass produced foods.

Are we happy for unnecessary additives, like soy in tea, to be in our food chain when it causes all the above for unsuspecting people.

considering how much soy has been consumed for how many hundreds/thousands of years by certain parts of the planet, if soy consumption was a legitimate health concern that caused hormonal issues and cancer we would have known it well long ago. It would not be "heavily debated" and would not be on the market.

Obviously you need to avoid foods you are allergic to. That goes for anything, and it doesn't make it dangerous for everyone else. If soy allergies were a common thing, soy wouldn't be in so many products as the OP has noticed.