Muscle gaining tips???

Mateo1985
Mateo1985 Posts: 153
edited September 30 in Health and Weight Loss
Hello guys!!!

How is everyone doing?

I was wondering if anyone could give me some simple tips on how to gain muscle. To lose the weight I basically stuck by two simple rules. 1. Not drinking any calorious drinks. And 2. Netting 1200 calories a day.

Does anyone know any simple tips like that for gaining muscle?

One would obviously be weight lifting. What about eating though? While losing all the fat I think I lost a lot of muscle mass too so now I want to gain some of the muscle back without putting on the fat.

If somebuddy knows a few quick tips I would greatly appreciate them.

Thank you so much!!!

Have a great day!!!

Replies

  • chardawg80
    chardawg80 Posts: 31 Member
    bump for later...

    I have been trying to do the same, but I eat 6 meals, 3000 calories a day, extremely high protein diet (milk, cottage cheese, protein bars, fish, chicken)...

    Finally started putting on some muscle mass, but I am also interested in hearing from those who reply to your post...
  • JustBill
    JustBill Posts: 93 Member
    To build muscle, lift heavy, low reps, five sets per. And consume protein, protein, protein. Lots of chicken breast, lots of tuna, and throw in a whey protein powder for good measure. I also recommend Kashi GO LEAN cereal... it's chuck full of... protein!

    :)
  • zohars
    zohars Posts: 29
    To gain muscle mass you are going to have to gain some fat along with it, so the basic goal is to gain muscle while minimizing fat gain. Ways to do that include weight training, eating lots of protein and generally fewer carbohydrates, eating enough (you usually eat above maintenance to build muscle), and rest days (don't lift more than three days a week, it will only slow down your progress). If you want a straightforward lifting program, you could check out Stronglifts 5x5 or Starting Strength. You could also try P90x if you like workout videos more than free weights.
  • Mateo1985
    Mateo1985 Posts: 153
    Thank you for the advice!!!!

    When it comes to weight lifting do I really limit it to just 3 times a week? I wanted to make it my morning routine to work out for an hour before work and then do cardio training in the evening. So is lifting weights 5 times a week too much? I will give muscle groups rest of at least a day between working on the same ones again so I hope it will be fine. Will post pictures of my progress here if any lol

    Thanks as always guys!!!
  • End6ame
    End6ame Posts: 903
    You will need to eat in a caloric surplus, which means you will gain some fat. Eat lots of protein.

    For lifting, the best way to put on muscle is through HEAVY compound lifts like squats, deadlifts, bench press, power cleans, etc… performing these in a 3x5 or 5x5 fashion would be ideal. Start light and learn proper technique then start increasing the weight on a regular basis, since you are new to lifting you could get away with 5lb increase every time you perform the lift.

    For generic beginner programs check out Starting Strength or StrongLIfts 5x5.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    OP-

    To gain muscle with minimizing fat gain, you should eat no more than a 20% calorie surplus from whatever your daily maintenance is. You can do a body recomp by eating your maintenance or very slightly above/below it but it takes a VERY long time to achieve this.

    Most bodybuilders do one of two things:

    1. Bulk first and then cut down. Usually a 6-8 month bulk with a 4-6 month cut.

    2. Cut down first and then do a lean bulk (much harder to achieve but doable)


    What exactly are your stats? Also if you could provide a fully body picture of yourself, it would be easier to tell you what you should be doing.

    You should be consuming 1-1.5g of protein per lb of LBM.
    You should be consuming .35-.75g of fat per lb of bodyweight.
    Put the rest of your calories into carbs, additional proteins and fats.

    All this to make your daily calories while eating a 20% surplus.
  • Mateo1985
    Mateo1985 Posts: 153
    My stats are as follows:

    I had my top weight of 230 lbs two years ago.

    I'm now at 135-140 lbs. I'm 5'7. 26 years old. Maintain at 2000 calories a day now. I attend an MMA gym 4 - 6 times a week. Getting a great cardio workout there. Haven't done any weight lifting ever in my life so I'm pretty new to this. Even things like push ups are hard for me. Not even talking about the pull ups. I should probaly work on those the most since they involve some of the biggest muscle groups of the body. + Squads.

    I'll try to post a body picture too tonight.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    My stats are as follows:

    I had my top weight of 230 lbs two years ago.

    I'm now at 135-140 lbs. I'm 5'7. 26 years old. Maintain at 2000 calories a day now. I attend an MMA gym 4 - 6 times a week. Getting a great cardio workout there. Haven't done any weight lifting ever in my life so I'm pretty new to this. Even things like push ups are hard for me. Not even talking about the pull ups. I should probaly work on those the most since they involve some of the biggest muscle groups of the body. + Squads.

    I'll try to post a body picture too tonight.

    No problem.

    My guess would be based on height and weight that you are roughly 7-9% bodyfat at MOST. You need to eat obviously, but if your maintenance is 2000, then I would START with 2400 a day.

    Couple things to remember:

    1. Meal timing is irrelevant. Don't force yourself to choke down 6 meals a day every 2-3 hours. It's unnecessary. Keep it simple with 3.
    2. Don't worry about eating late at night.
    3. Here are what your macros SHOULD be:

    200g protein = 800 calories
    100g fat = 900 calories
    175g carb = 700 calories

    2400 calories total. You can play with the numbers. On off days and cardio only days, you can go light carbs, more protein and fat intake. On lifting days you can go higher carb intake if you want.

    Also you can do IIFYM (If It Fits Your Macros) which means you get your MINIMUM protein and fat intake from the macros above, and then you eat whatever you want to in order to get to 2400 calories. Alot of bodybuilders do this and it's fine as long as you "hit" your macros everyday and get your calorie intake. Bacon, chocolate milk, etc.

    Eat whole eggs, drink whole milk, steak, chicken, fish (salmon, tuna, tilapia), oats (if you like em), cheeses, avocados, almonds, sweet potatoes. Eat foods you ENJOY. Don't OCD about eating super clean, especially on bulking.

    Remember you are going to gain some fat, but you will pack on muscle.

    Lift heavy.
    Train hard.

    YOU HAVE TO EAT BIG AND TRAIN BIG....TO GET BIG.
  • Emma1903
    Emma1903 Posts: 195
    If you want lean gains, try to lower carbs, higher protein and fat. Lift 3x a week at most lift every other day. Do 5x5. Cut out the cardio work too. Or at least limit it. Also if you really want lean gains, fasted training might be good for you. What supplements do you take?
  • Mateo1985
    Mateo1985 Posts: 153
    Thanks a lot for the great tips guys!!! Awesome stuff!!!
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    I am going to bump in on this one too. AWESOME information here! The one piece of advice you absolutely HAVE to take to heart...is the lifting 3 days a week tops. When you're lifting heavy...you need a WEEK of rest on each muscle group for real gains.

    Anyhow...as a slight hijack to the thread...I too am 5'7" tall, but I'm coming from the other end of the spectrum. I started at 215lbs, and am now down to 176-180lbs. I've used bodyweight exclusively (5x5 strength training format) to cut down and build up some muscle. I don't have access to heavy weights at the moment...but the bodyweight is working to the extent of I AM building muscle, and I AM cutting fat for the most part. I'd just like to be building more muscle is all lol. I was eating super clean, zig zagging calories, and I didn't feel like i was losing weight OR gaining muscle (I was plateaued at 189-192 for six weeks). I switched to Eat, Stop, Eat...and the weight is going down...my workouts are stronger...but I still don't feel like I have the mass I want. I'd like my end result to be 180-185lbs, 12%-14% body fat. Right now, as I mentioned...I'm 176-180lbs, and roughly 19%-20% via my own skin fold measurements.

    Here's a couple current pictures, spaced a month apart (6/28 and 7/21):

    7434194_8103.jpg7434194_9039.jpg

    Anyhow, along with Mateo...I'm more than willing to take some directions on which way to go with this. I currently own 15, 20, 30, and 35lb pairs of dumbbells. I feel like I need more weight to get any real gains with weights though....so it sort of sucks (dumbbells aren't cheap!). I have cut down my bodyfat quickly and effectively...but now what I'm wanting is added muscle mas, which brings a different sort of challenge with it =D.

    Cris
  • Scott613
    Scott613 Posts: 2,317 Member
    Steroids lots and lots of steroids!!!!! haha jk man......... up your protein intake and watch what you eat. Diet is a huge part in muscle gain/maintenance. Lift heavy no more than 8 reps per set in whatever exercise you do. It takes time to get muscle so be patient it won't happen overnight unless you take steroids
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    I am going to bump in on this one too. AWESOME information here! The one piece of advice you absolutely HAVE to take to heart...is the lifting 3 days a week tops. When you're lifting heavy...you need a WEEK of rest on each muscle group for real gains.

    Anyhow...as a slight hijack to the thread...I too am 5'7" tall, but I'm coming from the other end of the spectrum. I started at 215lbs, and am now down to 176-180lbs. I've used bodyweight exclusively (5x5 strength training format) to cut down and build up some muscle. I don't have access to heavy weights at the moment...but the bodyweight is working to the extent of I AM building muscle, and I AM cutting fat for the most part. I'd just like to be building more muscle is all lol. I was eating super clean, zig zagging calories, and I didn't feel like i was losing weight OR gaining muscle (I was plateaued at 189-192 for six weeks). I switched to Eat, Stop, Eat...and the weight is going down...my workouts are stronger...but I still don't feel like I have the mass I want. I'd like my end result to be 180-185lbs, 12%-14% body fat. Right now, as I mentioned...I'm 176-180lbs, and roughly 19%-20% via my own skin fold measurements.

    Here's a couple current pictures, spaced a month apart (6/28 and 7/21):

    7434194_8103.jpg7434194_9039.jpg

    Anyhow, along with Mateo...I'm more than willing to take some directions on which way to go with this. I currently own 15, 20, 30, and 35lb pairs of dumbbells. I feel like I need more weight to get any real gains with weights though....so it sort of sucks (dumbbells aren't cheap!). I have cut down my bodyfat quickly and effectively...but now what I'm wanting is added muscle mas, which brings a different sort of challenge with it =D.

    Cris

    If your main goal is to be 5'7 at 180 lbs with 12% bodyfat then you got some work to do my friend. You can get there, but it's going to take a while. I will give you some advice of what I would do if I were in your shoes. Cut down as far as you can go at 5'7 and then try to do as much of a lean bulk as you can while minimizing fat gain and get up to 180.

    At 5'7 you are going to cut down to about 160 or so and then build up slowly. You cant go too fast or you'll be back up to high teens in bf%. If you go the bulking route (which might be a better solution), you can eat a calorie surplus NOW and gain more weigh, and THEN cut down. In order to get to 12% bf at your height with 5'7 it's going to take probably two bulks, and two cuts.

    You might be able to snag it with one bulk but it's going to take extreme dedication, hard work, and most of all a gym membership. I understand people have things come up but bro, it's going to be VERY difficult to achieve what you are looking for with just a dumbbell set. Granted, not impossible, but not optimal under any circumstances.

    Edit as I wanted to add:

    Your BIGGEST enemy right now is plateau'ing. What is your calorie maitenance right now in a 24 hour period? I assume you are eating a small surplus right now? What is your activity like outside of the gym? You say you're on the 5x5 with bodyweight, but are you adding weight to your body for heavy lifts?

    What is your diet like? Are you hitting your macro's that coincide with your daily calorie intake?

    Lots of questions needing answered brah.
  • End6ame
    End6ame Posts: 903
    If your main goal is to be 5'7 at 180 lbs with 12% bodyfat then you got some work to do my friend. You can get there, but it's going to take a while. I will give you some advice of what I would do if I were in your shoes. Cut down as far as you can go at 5'7 and then try to do as much of a lean bulk as you can while minimizing fat gain and get up to 180.

    At 5'7 you are going to cut down to about 160 or so and then build up slowly. You cant go too fast or you'll be back up to high teens in bf%. If you go the bulking route (which might be a better solution), you can eat a calorie surplus NOW and gain more weigh, and THEN cut down. In order to get to 12% bf at your height with 5'7 it's going to take probably two bulks, and two cuts.

    You might be able to snag it with one bulk but it's going to take extreme dedication, hard work, and most of all a gym membership. I understand people have things come up but bro, it's going to be VERY difficult to achieve what you are looking for with just a dumbbell set. Granted, not impossible, but not optimal under any circumstances.

    Edit as I wanted to add:

    Your BIGGEST enemy right now is plateau'ing. What is your calorie maitenance right now in a 24 hour period? I assume you are eating a small surplus right now? What is your activity like outside of the gym? You say you're on the 5x5 with bodyweight, but are you adding weight to your body for heavy lifts?

    What is your diet like? Are you hitting your macro's that coincide with your daily calorie intake?

    Lots of questions needing answered brah.

    I would second the gym membership. Dumbells are great for assistance work but to build that kind of mass you are going to need some heavy barbell training combined with progressive overloading.
  • hill2302
    hill2302 Posts: 139 Member
    Very interesting...

    So I'm 6 ft tall and am currently at 184 lbs, which I think is a pretty good weight for me. However, I'd like to bulk up and add alot of muscle to my frame. I don'tt hink I'd like to add to it now, as it would proabbly mean I would end up somewhere around 10-15 lbs heavier, I'm guessing of course.

    So would the recommended way to be to cut to even a lower weight, like 175 and then start bulking up?

    I have no idea what my current bf% is.

    I just don't want to waste my time and effort doing something inefficiently.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    Very interesting...

    So I'm 6 ft tall and am currently at 184 lbs, which I think is a pretty good weight for me. However, I'd like to bulk up and add alot of muscle to my frame. I don'tt hink I'd like to add to it now, as it would proabbly mean I would end up somewhere around 10-15 lbs heavier, I'm guessing of course.

    So would the recommended way to be to cut to even a lower weight, like 175 and then start bulking up?

    I have no idea what my current bf% is.

    I just don't want to waste my time and effort doing something inefficiently.

    Hmm.. 6 ft at 184 is decent. Without seeing any body pics of yours honestly I would go for a 20% calorie surplus BULK for about 6-8 months, and THEN do a cut. You are going to gain a little fat, but you will be happy with the results I think from the cut with the muscle mass you will gain. In 8 months you can probably realistically gain about 15 pounds of solid muscle mass and then rest will be fat.

    Alot of natty bodybuilders are HAPPY with gaining 20-25 lbs of muscle mass over their FIRST year of training. Your first year is the biggest. I've only heard of a few guys that gained more than 25-30 lbs their first year, and most likely had amazing genetics.

    Also remember these keys:
    - Diet
    - Training Regime
    - Consistency
    - Hard work
    - 7 to 8 hours of sleep every night
    - Patience
  • hill2302
    hill2302 Posts: 139 Member
    Very interesting...

    So I'm 6 ft tall and am currently at 184 lbs, which I think is a pretty good weight for me. However, I'd like to bulk up and add alot of muscle to my frame. I don'tt hink I'd like to add to it now, as it would proabbly mean I would end up somewhere around 10-15 lbs heavier, I'm guessing of course.

    So would the recommended way to be to cut to even a lower weight, like 175 and then start bulking up?

    I have no idea what my current bf% is.

    I just don't want to waste my time and effort doing something inefficiently.

    Hmm.. 6 ft at 184 is decent. Without seeing any body pics of yours honestly I would go for a 20% calorie surplus BULK for about 6-8 months, and THEN do a cut. You are going to gain a little fat, but you will be happy with the results I think from the cut with the muscle mass you will gain. In 8 months you can probably realistically gain about 15 pounds of solid muscle mass and then rest will be fat.

    Alot of natty bodybuilders are HAPPY with gaining 20-25 lbs of muscle mass over their FIRST year of training. Your first year is the biggest. I've only heard of a few guys that gained more than 25-30 lbs their first year, and most likely had amazing genetics.

    Also remember these keys:
    - Diet
    - Training Regime
    - Consistency
    - Hard work
    - 7 to 8 hours of sleep every night
    - Patience
    Here is my most recent pic...
    D3CD0FC3-orig.jpg

    I'm thinking I still have a kinda high % of BF. I'd eventually like to see some abs too, so I've read you really need to get down to at most about 12% to let them be seen. I've mainly done body weight exercising to try to minimize muscle loos while losing 50+ lbs over the past year.
  • Saruman_w
    Saruman_w Posts: 1,531 Member
    I'm liking this thread. Good info here
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    I'm thinking I still have a kinda high % of BF. I'd eventually like to see some abs too, so I've read you really need to get down to at most about 12% to let them be seen. I've mainly done body weight exercising to try to minimize muscle loos while losing 50+ lbs over the past year.

    Well you can cut now down to roughly 10-12% bodyfat which will give you the abs you seek, and then do a lean bulk but it will be a pretty slow process, and your bodyfat % will go up a little depending on how much of a surplus you go. Some guys will get frustrated going this way because they won't get the fast results they seek so they end up eating more than they should and gain more fat.

    If you go the bulking route you can do 20% surplus, do heavy compound lifts, and do cardio twice a week and still minimize fat gain but this would be a faster and more optimal route of training.

    You can also go with a body recomp which is another option, but more complicated. If you are going to go this route, you should eat at maintenance or very slightly over and do both carb cycling and intermittent fasting. You can read more about these methods over at http://www.leangains.com

    Hope this helps.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    If your main goal is to be 5'7 at 180 lbs with 12% bodyfat then you got some work to do my friend. You can get there, but it's going to take a while. I will give you some advice of what I would do if I were in your shoes. Cut down as far as you can go at 5'7 and then try to do as much of a lean bulk as you can while minimizing fat gain and get up to 180.

    At 5'7 you are going to cut down to about 160 or so and then build up slowly. You cant go too fast or you'll be back up to high teens in bf%. If you go the bulking route (which might be a better solution), you can eat a calorie surplus NOW and gain more weigh, and THEN cut down. In order to get to 12% bf at your height with 5'7 it's going to take probably two bulks, and two cuts.

    You might be able to snag it with one bulk but it's going to take extreme dedication, hard work, and most of all a gym membership. I understand people have things come up but bro, it's going to be VERY difficult to achieve what you are looking for with just a dumbbell set. Granted, not impossible, but not optimal under any circumstances.

    Edit as I wanted to add:

    Your BIGGEST enemy right now is plateau'ing. What is your calorie maitenance right now in a 24 hour period? I assume you are eating a small surplus right now? What is your activity like outside of the gym? You say you're on the 5x5 with bodyweight, but are you adding weight to your body for heavy lifts?

    What is your diet like? Are you hitting your macro's that coincide with your daily calorie intake?

    Lots of questions needing answered brah.

    I would second the gym membership. Dumbells are great for assistance work but to build that kind of mass you are going to need some heavy barbell training combined with progressive overloading.

    Thanks you two! It may be that my 'goal' is unrealistic. I'm really guessing on the 180lbs and bodyfat percentage, based on what I look like now. I've never been there, so I won't know until I reach a point I like, what that will look like on the scale and for bodyfat.

    As for the gym...there's ONE gym here...and it's an 'Anytime Fitness'. I just looked it up...and they do have free weights (I was told they didn't). We'll see how cost prohibitive it is...and if it's not too bad, and there's not a huge contract (I don't know how long I'll be living here)...I'll join. I too feel I'm at the limits of what bodyweight will give me with 'reasonably' quick turnaround.

    Now, for my specifics.

    I'm eating with Eat, Stop, Eat, partially because with my new job my schedule got ALL out of whack. I'll be fixing it...but I'm having to work out how right now lol. I was previously eating very clean, and hitting my macros pretty consistently (for about 3mos). I am mostly eating at a slight deficit right now (magnified by the ESE thing) as my main concern was getting rid of my belly and love handles. Now that I'm getting close...my concern is shifting more towards my final overall appearance/strength needs. My maintenance is 2300cal as calculated by this site...with a lightly active lifestyle.

    My strength training is 5x5 as I said. I am just now starting to add a 20lb vest, and 10lb weights to my wrists or ankles (depending on the exercise). The workout routine is listed on the middle of the first page of the link in my signature below. The way it works, is you do a difficult enough exercise that you can ONLY complete 5-7 reps on the first set...and are seriously struggling to finish 5 on the 5th set. For example...someone just starting might have trouble doing 5 traditional pushups in a row, and 5 sets would wipe them...as is the goal. I'm now doing 1 leg decline 80/20 (80% of my weight, magnified by the 1 leg and decline...on the pushing arm) wide grip pushups lol. For the vertical push (shoulders), I started with pike pushups, and am now doing full on handstand pushups, on pushup stands for range of motion. I suppose that would be equivalent to 180lb or so shoulder presses...and more with the weighted vest and ankle weights.

    Hope that helps...and I appreciate YOUR help. I'm definitely going to look into the gym thing...but as it stands, I've got to keep pushing this as far as it will go for now.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    One more thing, for the record, this is the workout I'm using:
    Another Bodyweight Culture article, this one courtesy Cheesedog at:

    http://www.bodyweightculture.com/forum/showthread.php?11058-Bodyweight-Strength-Training

    Bodyweight Strength Training

    People are always asking about strength training using only bodyweight. This is nothing new or revolutionary. I am borrowing HEAVILY from Rippatoe, Bill Starr, and lots of other great authors and trainers. This is your basic 5 x 5 template. (To clarify, 5x5 is 5 reps x 5 sets. The idea is to work at a difficulty level where you could only do maybe 7-8 reps on the first set, and are struggling to finish 5 reps on the last set). You would do strength training 3 times a week, say Monday-Wednesday-Friday with the weekends off. These are done "lazy circuits" style, with about 1 minute rest between each set.

    Workout A
    1A. Knee dominant - 5 x 5
    1B. Horizontal push - 5 x 5
    1C. Horizontal pull - 5 x 5
    2A. Ab - flexion - 3 x 5
    2B. Ab - static 3 x 30 seconds

    Workout B
    1A. Knee dominant - 5 x 5
    1B. Vertical push - 5 x 5
    1C. Hip dominant - 5 x 5
    1D. Vertical pull - 5 x 5
    2A. Ab - rotation - 3 x 5
    2B. Grip and neck training - 3 x varies

    Exercise Progressions - with regular weight training you can just add weight to the bar. With bodyweight progression is mostly about changing your leverage. These are just a few examples, I'm sure we could come up with dozens more if needed. You can always add resistance in the form of a weighted vest or backpack or resistance bands.

    1. Knee Dominant -- squats, lunges, step-ups, bulgarian split squats, unilateral bent leg deadlift, partial one leg squat, one leg squat, box or stair pistols, full pistols.
    2. Horizontal Push -- pushups, decline pushups, resistance pushups, side to side pushups, stair one arm pushups, negative one arm pushups, full one arm pushups.
    3. Horizontal Pull -- body row, resistance body row, negative one hand row, incline one hand row, full one hand row.
    4. Ab - flexion -- crunches, situps, resistance or incline situps, reverse situp, resistance or incline reverse situps, hanging knee or leg raise, hanging pikes, rollout from knees, rollout from feet, dragon flag. Also included are oblique moves like side lying crunches with or without resistance and side lying two leg raise.
    5. Abs- static -- 4 point prone bridge, 3 point prone bridge, 2 point prone bridge, 4 point supine bridge, 3 point supine bridge.
    6. Vertical Push -- pike pushup, hindu pushup, divebomber pushup, decline pike pushup, decline hindu pushup, decline divebomber pushup, one arm pike pushup, negative handstand pushup, handstand pushup with head touching floor, full handstand pushup.
    7. Hip Dominant -- supine hip extension, good morning, one leg stiff leg deadlift, split one leg good morning, one leg supine hip extension, hyperextension, one leg hyperextension, natural glute-ham raise.
    8. Vertical Pull -- jumping or assisted pullups, pullups, resistance pullups, side to side pullups, negative one hand pullups, one hand pullups. All these can refer to chinups or neutral grip pullups as well.
    9. Ab - rotation -- twist crunches or situps, resistance or incline twist crunches or situps, russian twists, lying windshield wipers, standing rope rotations, hanging windshield wipers.
    10. Grip and Neck Training -- for grip you can use handgrippers, deadhangs from a pullup bar (especially a fatbar or gripping a towel). For neck nothing beats wrestlers bridges. If you are involved in a striking martial art or sport, finger and fist pushups are very important also.

    None of these lists have to end here. If you get strong enough you can always add resistance to your full range of motion one limb exercise. Or if you can do more than 5 one hand pushups do decline one hand pushups, or start working on one hand hindu and then eventually one hand dive bombers, and so on.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Ok, they had full free weights, and everything else I need...$35/mo, and I can go 24hrs a day.

    I now have a gym membership lol.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    Sweet Cris.

    Now you can incorporate SQUATS and DEADLIFTS into your 5x5 routine.

    One thing I have to say about doing the Squat. It is imperative: (I'm going to quote Mark Rippetoe here)

    "There is simply no other exercise, and certainly no machine, that provides the level of central nervous activity, improved balance and coordination, skeletal loading and bone density enhancement, muscular stimulation and growth, connective tissue stress and strength, psychological demand and toughness, and overall systemic conditioning than the correctly performed full squat."

    Unless you have SERIOUS back problems like multiple disc hernations, then the squat is a MUST exercise in your routine, especially 5x5.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Sweet Cris.

    Now you can incorporate SQUATS and DEADLIFTS into your 5x5 routine.

    One thing I have to say about doing the Squat. It is imperative: (I'm going to quote Mark Rippetoe here)

    "There is simply no other exercise, and certainly no machine, that provides the level of central nervous activity, improved balance and coordination, skeletal loading and bone density enhancement, muscular stimulation and growth, connective tissue stress and strength, psychological demand and toughness, and overall systemic conditioning than the correctly performed full squat."

    Unless you have SERIOUS back problems like multiple disc hernations, then the squat is a MUST exercise in your routine, especially 5x5.

    I somehow missed this reply!

    I'm still getting used to the gym...I've swapped out my main exercises for weighted versions. The gym director suggested I use the smith machine for squats at first...and so I am. I'm currently at 5*5, 180#, and was planning on 185# tomorrow. Is like to transition to real squats soon.
  • End6ame
    End6ame Posts: 903
    Sweet Cris.

    Now you can incorporate SQUATS and DEADLIFTS into your 5x5 routine.

    One thing I have to say about doing the Squat. It is imperative: (I'm going to quote Mark Rippetoe here)

    "There is simply no other exercise, and certainly no machine, that provides the level of central nervous activity, improved balance and coordination, skeletal loading and bone density enhancement, muscular stimulation and growth, connective tissue stress and strength, psychological demand and toughness, and overall systemic conditioning than the correctly performed full squat."

    Unless you have SERIOUS back problems like multiple disc hernations, then the squat is a MUST exercise in your routine, especially 5x5.

    I somehow missed this reply!

    I'm still getting used to the gym...I've swapped out my main exercises for weighted versions. The gym director suggested I use the smith machine for squats at first...and so I am. I'm currently at 5*5, 180#, and was planning on 185# tomorrow. Is like to transition to real squats soon.

    No, no, no no. The smith machine is like trying to learn to fly a plane by playing video games, you will not learn properly, that way. Just start squatting with light weight (just the bar) to learn proper form, then start adding weight.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member

    No, no, no no. The smith machine is like trying to learn to fly a plane by playing video games, you will not learn properly, that way. Just start squatting with light weight (just the bar) to learn proper form, then start adding weight.

    What he said.

    The smith machine is an expensive coat rack in most instances. Sure it is an easier way to start lifting heavy in the short term. In the long run though learning proper form with a light weight using just a barbell and then progressively overloading will take you much further.

    Instead of a traditional back squat you coud try a goblet squat as well. It's a relatively straight forward exercise and is easy to progress with.
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