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thegoat1987
thegoat1987 Posts: 36 Member
edited November 18 in Health and Weight Loss
I was admitted to hospital with pancreatitis! Has anyone else faced a "small hiccup" in their plan like this? If so, how did you get past it/work around it?

After a year of graft, CICO and as much PMA as I could muster - I'm now just 8lbs from goal weight. I had a sustainable workout routine, was prepping meals and enjoying daily treats - and mentally, for the first time in a long time, I felt like I could keep this up for LIFE!

But last week, I was admitted to hospital after diagnosis of acute pancreatitis for 3 days - put on an IV and told I should have my gallbladder removed. On top of all this, my diet has been restricted, even further, to super low fat food. No more daily treats. No more avocado. No more salmon. Definitely no more chocolate.

My health is priority, so I've given up trying to lose more weight right now but I am struggling with this change mentally.

How do I deal with this?? Any help/shared situations/triumph stories gratefully appreciated.
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  • Maaike84
    Maaike84 Posts: 211 Member
    Ouch, that sounds very unpleasant, can imagine you feel a bit derailed. But can you shift your focus on your health, rather than on your weight? If you change your mindset like that - what you are doing now to recover is not derailing you from losing those last 8 lbs, but it is contributing to your overall goal of being healthy and fit. And when you have recovered from the gallbladder, you can be confident to tackle those last pounds - you got this!
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    Take the focus off diet for now--since they've given you a new one anyway. This is just another learning experience. You've done so well so far, so you just have to change things up a bit. Best of luck to you and hope you are home soon.
  • thegoat1987
    thegoat1987 Posts: 36 Member
    ladyreva78 wrote: »
    Oh dear! That is extremely unpleasant and painful, and I wish you a good and speedy recovery!

    You've rightfully said that health is your priority - as it should be.

    Look at it this way: even if it takes you 1 year to get back on track, and if we assume an average lifespan of 80, that's less than 5% of your total life. It's no fun having to take a detour, but in the end, what you learn while on the detour can only make you stronger once you hit your path again.

    Good luck and get well soon!


    (PS: lost my gallbladder in 2015 because of exactly that. Had a stone blocked in the passage at the level of the pancreas and the gallbladder was showing signs of permanent inflammation. I was pretty depressed as I'd lost a good 10kg before that with 40kg more to go and I was worried that it would totally derail me. It simply made me realize that my chosen plan wasn't very good and that I needed to tweak some things to work for me. I've since gone and lost another 22kg.)

    Thank you for this! Has removing your gallbladder impacted your life much?
  • thegoat1987
    thegoat1987 Posts: 36 Member
    Thank you so much for posting such positive messages guys, I really needed this :)
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    ladyreva78 wrote: »
    Oh dear! That is extremely unpleasant and painful, and I wish you a good and speedy recovery!

    You've rightfully said that health is your priority - as it should be.

    Look at it this way: even if it takes you 1 year to get back on track, and if we assume an average lifespan of 80, that's less than 5% of your total life. It's no fun having to take a detour, but in the end, what you learn while on the detour can only make you stronger once you hit your path again.

    Good luck and get well soon!


    (PS: lost my gallbladder in 2015 because of exactly that. Had a stone blocked in the passage at the level of the pancreas and the gallbladder was showing signs of permanent inflammation. I was pretty depressed as I'd lost a good 10kg before that with 40kg more to go and I was worried that it would totally derail me. It simply made me realize that my chosen plan wasn't very good and that I needed to tweak some things to work for me. I've since gone and lost another 22kg.)

    Thank you for this! Has removing your gallbladder impacted your life much?

    It hasn't for my wife. Although, she has to be careful about eating fried foods.
  • thegoat1987
    thegoat1987 Posts: 36 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    That really sucks. Be thankful it was only acute pancreatitis; my wife was pretty much in a hospital for 1.5 years with it. At one point, her Lipase was so high, it almost killed her. BTW, it was caused by a gallbladder that ruptured.


    Are they planning on doing the surgery? If so, I'd do it. It's a very simple surgery and you don't want things to get worse. Also, you will probably end up losing some more weight since you will be limited on how much and what you can eat. I'd actually take a look into whey protein or BCAA's to help support some kind of muscle retention since it will be harder to get adequate levels.

    But definitely make sure you are doing whatever to get healthy.

    Thank you for your post! My goodness, your poor wife. I can only imagine how awful it must have been to experience that pain! Do they know what caused her pancreatitis?

    I am still undecided about the surgery - I feel like the surgeon is recommending it too soon, before we know exactly what caused my pancreatitis. I am reluctant to remove an organ so quickly! I have so many questions about my diagnosis, I'd barely heard of pancreatitis before and now it's taken over my life!

    Hope you and your wife are happy and healthy
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    psuLemon wrote: »
    That really sucks. Be thankful it was only acute pancreatitis; my wife was pretty much in a hospital for 1.5 years with it. At one point, her Lipase was so high, it almost killed her. BTW, it was caused by a gallbladder that ruptured.


    Are they planning on doing the surgery? If so, I'd do it. It's a very simple surgery and you don't want things to get worse. Also, you will probably end up losing some more weight since you will be limited on how much and what you can eat. I'd actually take a look into whey protein or BCAA's to help support some kind of muscle retention since it will be harder to get adequate levels.

    But definitely make sure you are doing whatever to get healthy.

    Thank you for your post! My goodness, your poor wife. I can only imagine how awful it must have been to experience that pain! Do they know what caused her pancreatitis?

    I am still undecided about the surgery - I feel like the surgeon is recommending it too soon, before we know exactly what caused my pancreatitis. I am reluctant to remove an organ so quickly! I have so many questions about my diagnosis, I'd barely heard of pancreatitis before and now it's taken over my life!

    Hope you and your wife are happy and healthy

    My wife's pancreatitis as caused by the ruptured gallbladder (so it literally fell apart).. which was causing bile to seep into her body, which cause a variety of infections.

    The gallbladder is mainly there to help breakdown fats to ease the transition into the stomach. It's not overly important and a variety of factors can cause stones and other issues (i.e., aggressive dieting can cause stones). So you may or may not be able to find the cause.
  • thegoat1987
    thegoat1987 Posts: 36 Member
    My wife's pancreatitis as caused by the ruptured gallbladder (so it literally fell apart).. which was causing bile to seep into her body, which cause a variety of infections.

    The gallbladder is mainly there to help breakdown fats to ease the transition into the stomach. It's not overly important and a variety of factors can cause stones and other issues (i.e., aggressive dieting can cause stones). So you may or may not be able to find the cause.

    I'm sorry - I meant to ask what caused the gallbladder to rupture if you know?

    I do wonder if my dieting caused the build up of sludge to cause my pancreatitis - will have to do more researching. Thank you, I will definitely consider the surgery. I'm glad that removing it hasn't seemed to be detrimental to your wife.
  • ladyreva78
    ladyreva78 Posts: 4,080 Member
    ladyreva78 wrote: »
    Oh dear! That is extremely unpleasant and painful, and I wish you a good and speedy recovery!

    You've rightfully said that health is your priority - as it should be.

    Look at it this way: even if it takes you 1 year to get back on track, and if we assume an average lifespan of 80, that's less than 5% of your total life. It's no fun having to take a detour, but in the end, what you learn while on the detour can only make you stronger once you hit your path again.

    Good luck and get well soon!


    (PS: lost my gallbladder in 2015 because of exactly that. Had a stone blocked in the passage at the level of the pancreas and the gallbladder was showing signs of permanent inflammation. I was pretty depressed as I'd lost a good 10kg before that with 40kg more to go and I was worried that it would totally derail me. It simply made me realize that my chosen plan wasn't very good and that I needed to tweak some things to work for me. I've since gone and lost another 22kg.)

    Thank you for this! Has removing your gallbladder impacted your life much?

    I have to be careful with overly fatty meals. Fried food especially is painful. It tends to cause discomfort and a sense of being so full that one more bite will cause me to vomit. It's not as bad as right after the surgery (I also had an adverse reaction to the anesthesia, so that didn't help.) but I still need to be mindful of what and how much I eat. Somethings I gave up completely because the taste just wasn't worth it (deep fried stuff mostly - but I will make an exception for tempura every once in a while). Others I decide I would allow myself in smaller quantities and just suck it up (a walk after such meals tends to help).

    My Mom, who had her gallbladder out 6 months before me, went back to eating as if nothing had happened. I am somewhat jealous but c'est la vie.

    You'll actually only know how your own body reacts once it's in the situation.

    Good luck!
  • PrincessMel72
    PrincessMel72 Posts: 1,094 Member
    Wow so sorry about this!! Just to let you know, I had my gallbladder out in 1997 and have been just fine without it. It was causing horrific pain and was full of stones. Once I had it removed (it was an overnight stay, laparoscopic surgery - they call it a "band-aid" surgery due to how little the incisions are), I felt MUCH better. I was back to eating a regular diet almost immediately. Good luck on your recovery!
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    My wife's pancreatitis as caused by the ruptured gallbladder (so it literally fell apart).. which was causing bile to seep into her body, which cause a variety of infections.

    The gallbladder is mainly there to help breakdown fats to ease the transition into the stomach. It's not overly important and a variety of factors can cause stones and other issues (i.e., aggressive dieting can cause stones). So you may or may not be able to find the cause.

    I'm sorry - I meant to ask what caused the gallbladder to rupture if you know?

    I do wonder if my dieting caused the build up of sludge to cause my pancreatitis - will have to do more researching. Thank you, I will definitely consider the surgery. I'm glad that removing it hasn't seemed to be detrimental to your wife.

    They don't really know. They say based on what happened, her gallbladder was probably wasn't working for a few years.
  • loulouowens
    loulouowens Posts: 103 Member
    Until i baked a batch of nutella cookies :#
  • thegoat1987
    thegoat1987 Posts: 36 Member
    Until i baked a batch of nutella cookies :#

    Haha this really made me laugh! Oh how I wish I could have some Nutella though...

  • megomerrett
    megomerrett Posts: 442 Member
    Me. Last year I was doing well until I had to have a medical procedure that stopped me from exercising. Really threw me off course, demotivated me. Got back on it in January.
  • RAinWA
    RAinWA Posts: 1,980 Member
    That sounds horrible! Sorry you have to go through it. I had my gallbladder out 20 years ago and have not had any issues with it. I can eat pretty much anything with no problem and not having the gallbladder attacks has been wonderful.

    I wouldn't worry too much about that last 8 pounds while you are healing, you have more important things to think about. I know it's frustrating but you can always lose those few pounds later. In my case, much later. I have been maintaining for awhile but decided early last year I wanted to lose another 10 pounds. I immediately came down with a bunch of issues that included 4 major surgeries in the last 15 months and I have just about given up on losing that last few pounds. But at least I haven't gained any weight.

  • 150poundsofme
    150poundsofme Posts: 523 Member
    Hi, Had my gallbladder out. My surgeon said "when you had your gallbladder, you shouldn't have been eating fatty foods. Now that it is out, you can eat whatever you want". I do and have no problems at all with any type of foods - I eat avocados, fatty foods, fried foods, salmon, chocolate, twinkies, whatever.
  • lgill1127
    lgill1127 Posts: 47 Member
    I was admitted to hospital with pancreatitis! Has anyone else faced a "small hiccup" in their plan like this? If so, how did you get past it/work around it?

    After a year of graft, CICO and as much PMA as I could muster - I'm now just 8lbs from goal weight. I had a sustainable workout routine, was prepping meals and enjoying daily treats - and mentally, for the first time in a long time, I felt like I could keep this up for LIFE!

    But last week, I was admitted to hospital after diagnosis of acute pancreatitis for 3 days - put on an IV and told I should have my gallbladder removed. On top of all this, my diet has been restricted, even further, to super low fat food. No more daily treats. No more avocado. No more salmon. Definitely no more chocolate.

    My health is priority, so I've given up trying to lose more weight right now but I am struggling with this change mentally.

    How do I deal with this?? Any help/shared situations/triumph stories gratefully appreciated.

    Oh my gosh, this was me in February of this year. After a successful 25lb weight loss I had a random bout of acute pancreatitis. I had my gallbladder removed in 2015, hardly drink alcohol, and just yesterday had an endoscopic ultrasound to see if there are any lesions/cysts on my pancreas because they had no idea why my lipase level was as high as it was. Thankfully, nothing is wrong with my pancreas, but no answers as to why I had acute pancreatitis. They offered me an MRCP (MRI) or the endoscopic ultrasound (which is more invasive but produces better quality images), so I went with the ultrasound.

    Regardless, I stopped working out for nearly 4 months after the episode. I was eating VERY low fat and ZERO alcohol for 6 weeks to let my pancreas heal. I was limiting myself to 30g or less of fat per day. Definitely higher carbs for the first few weeks, then I incorporated more lean protein. Turkey burgers were, and still are, my best friend lol. I also ate a lot of egg whites (still do, but now eating a whole egg 1-2x per week or so). I was still losing weight during the no-exercise period (pancreatitis can do this). I did not lose that much muscle tone once I returned to the gym, surprisingly. I still try to cap my fat intake at 50g/day because I'm so scared of it happening again, but I am starting to eat more healthy fats (including avocado!) because my HDL was too low during my last blood test. I do drink alcohol - about 2-3 drinks on the weekend. I add these things slowly into my diet to avoid the sick feeling.

    So, fret not - there is a possibility you could start having avocado, alcohol, and chocolate again after a short break. I'm not exactly sure how to move upwards from here after finding that nothing is wrong with my pancreas - definitely not binging out on red meat, full fat cheese, charcuterie, or fried foods. Even with occasional indulgences, my body is NOT used to them and going too hard on some full-fat ice cream and french fries makes me nauseous for days. I'll likely (responsibly) enjoy these things occasionally. I'm still losing weight after starting to exercise again at the end of April, about 21lbs down since having pancreatitis.

    NOTE - I am not a health care professional, this is just my experience with acute pancreatitis. You might be feeling well enough to exercise before I did. Just take it day by day.
  • mitch16
    mitch16 Posts: 2,113 Member
    The low fat diet that they've prescribed for now is definitely in your best interest... Eating high fat food could send you into a full-blown attack (which, for me, was some of the most incredible pain that I've ever felt--it rivaled labor!).

    Women tend to have gallbladder issuess far more frequently than men--doctors joke about the 4 F's for risk factors--female, forty, fertile, and fat... My sister had only one risk factors (female and fertile), but back to back pregnancies (my nieces are 14 months apart) messed her up. Both my mother-in-law and my mother were slightly older when they had their attacks (peri-menopausal). My mother-in-law lost about 25 lbs while waiting for her surgery to get scheduled because she was so afraid to eat anything that might cause an attack. Surgery is usually laparascopic (if it doesn't rupture) so recovery can be minimized. Once you have your surgery and are no longer at risk for attacks you can add some fat back into your diet... if you overdo it, your body will definitely let you know (not acute pain, but discomfort, bloating, diarrhea). Definitely avoid things that have been deep-fried.
  • ronjsteele1
    ronjsteele1 Posts: 1,064 Member
    edited May 2017
    Are you looking for a way to avoid surgery? Doing a two week course of Stonebreaker by Herb Pharm can help a lot if your GB is not necrotic or badly infected already. It has saved a number of friends of mine from losing their GBs.

    Sometimes they never find out why someone got pancreatitis. I got acute pancreatitis but no sign of any stones, etc. that could have blocked the common bile duct (which is what they usually see). It was finally decided by several doctors after doing some research that they thought mine was probably caused by nutrasweet. We'll never really know what caused mine, but you can bet I don't touch artificial sweeteners anymore. I nearly died from the pancreatitis. I'm not willing to take an even remote risk of that again. :# But realistically, you may never know "why."
  • thegoat1987
    thegoat1987 Posts: 36 Member
    RAinWA wrote: »
    That sounds horrible! Sorry you have to go through it. I had my gallbladder out 20 years ago and have not had any issues with it. I can eat pretty much anything with no problem and not having the gallbladder attacks has been wonderful.

    I wouldn't worry too much about that last 8 pounds while you are healing, you have more important things to think about. I know it's frustrating but you can always lose those few pounds later. In my case, much later. I have been maintaining for awhile but decided early last year I wanted to lose another 10 pounds. I immediately came down with a bunch of issues that included 4 major surgeries in the last 15 months and I have just about given up on losing that last few pounds. But at least I haven't gained any weight.

    Thank you, it's good to know that you didn't have any complications following your cholecystectomy. How were you trying to lose weight can I ask? I am so sorry to hear you needed more surgeries though, that's not fun at all :(
  • thegoat1987
    thegoat1987 Posts: 36 Member
    Hi, Had my gallbladder out. My surgeon said "when you had your gallbladder, you shouldn't have been eating fatty foods. Now that it is out, you can eat whatever you want". I do and have no problems at all with any type of foods - I eat avocados, fatty foods, fried foods, salmon, chocolate, twinkies, whatever.

    For real?? :smile: Wow so many questions for you, hope you don't mind! Why did you have a cholecystectomy? How long was your recovery? How long ago was your surgery? Did survey resolve all your previous issues? Sorry and thank you!
  • thegoat1987
    thegoat1987 Posts: 36 Member
    lgill1127 wrote: »
    I was admitted to hospital with pancreatitis! Has anyone else faced a "small hiccup" in their plan like this? If so, how did you get past it/work around it?

    After a year of graft, CICO and as much PMA as I could muster - I'm now just 8lbs from goal weight. I had a sustainable workout routine, was prepping meals and enjoying daily treats - and mentally, for the first time in a long time, I felt like I could keep this up for LIFE!

    But last week, I was admitted to hospital after diagnosis of acute pancreatitis for 3 days - put on an IV and told I should have my gallbladder removed. On top of all this, my diet has been restricted, even further, to super low fat food. No more daily treats. No more avocado. No more salmon. Definitely no more chocolate.

    My health is priority, so I've given up trying to lose more weight right now but I am struggling with this change mentally.

    How do I deal with this?? Any help/shared situations/triumph stories gratefully appreciated.

    Oh my gosh, this was me in February of this year. After a successful 25lb weight loss I had a random bout of acute pancreatitis. I had my gallbladder removed in 2015, hardly drink alcohol, and just yesterday had an endoscopic ultrasound to see if there are any lesions/cysts on my pancreas because they had no idea why my lipase level was as high as it was. Thankfully, nothing is wrong with my pancreas, but no answers as to why I had acute pancreatitis. They offered me an MRCP (MRI) or the endoscopic ultrasound (which is more invasive but produces better quality images), so I went with the ultrasound.

    Regardless, I stopped working out for nearly 4 months after the episode. I was eating VERY low fat and ZERO alcohol for 6 weeks to let my pancreas heal. I was limiting myself to 30g or less of fat per day. Definitely higher carbs for the first few weeks, then I incorporated more lean protein. Turkey burgers were, and still are, my best friend lol. I also ate a lot of egg whites (still do, but now eating a whole egg 1-2x per week or so). I was still losing weight during the no-exercise period (pancreatitis can do this). I did not lose that much muscle tone once I returned to the gym, surprisingly. I still try to cap my fat intake at 50g/day because I'm so scared of it happening again, but I am starting to eat more healthy fats (including avocado!) because my HDL was too low during my last blood test. I do drink alcohol - about 2-3 drinks on the weekend. I add these things slowly into my diet to avoid the sick feeling.

    So, fret not - there is a possibility you could start having avocado, alcohol, and chocolate again after a short break. I'm not exactly sure how to move upwards from here after finding that nothing is wrong with my pancreas - definitely not binging out on red meat, full fat cheese, charcuterie, or fried foods. Even with occasional indulgences, my body is NOT used to them and going too hard on some full-fat ice cream and french fries makes me nauseous for days. I'll likely (responsibly) enjoy these things occasionally. I'm still losing weight after starting to exercise again at the end of April, about 21lbs down since having pancreatitis.

    NOTE - I am not a health care professional, this is just my experience with acute pancreatitis. You might be feeling well enough to exercise before I did. Just take it day by day.

    Thank you this was very interesting to read! Very similar story to me, I don't drink/smoke etc - good food is my only vice and now it's being taken away sadly!! Also, over the past year or so I have lost 21lbs.

    Did you have your gallbladder removed before you got pancreatitis? I had barely heard of the it before I got it and now I can't read enough about this mysterious condition!
  • sabinaholtby
    sabinaholtby Posts: 73 Member
    I was in the ER this week for gallstones. I am going to follow this thread, but from what I've read the weight loss could be what triggers it. I was there 6 months ago for another stone, the gallbladder is never inflamed so they don't do the emergency surgery, but it is the most pain I've ever been in when it hits. I'm so sorry your going through it. I was stuck at 160 for 4 weeks, as soon as finally hit 159, that's when I had the attack, I had eaten a VERY low fat diet that day, no trigger foods. So frustrating, also seems to be connected to hormones.
  • RAinWA
    RAinWA Posts: 1,980 Member
    RAinWA wrote: »
    That sounds horrible! Sorry you have to go through it. I had my gallbladder out 20 years ago and have not had any issues with it. I can eat pretty much anything with no problem and not having the gallbladder attacks has been wonderful.

    I wouldn't worry too much about that last 8 pounds while you are healing, you have more important things to think about. I know it's frustrating but you can always lose those few pounds later. In my case, much later. I have been maintaining for awhile but decided early last year I wanted to lose another 10 pounds. I immediately came down with a bunch of issues that included 4 major surgeries in the last 15 months and I have just about given up on losing that last few pounds. But at least I haven't gained any weight.

    Thank you, it's good to know that you didn't have any complications following your cholecystectomy. How were you trying to lose weight can I ask? I am so sorry to hear you needed more surgeries though, that's not fun at all :(

    I actually had lost around 127 pounds and been maintaining for a couple of years before I decided to go down another 10 pounds. I used low carb to lose the majority of my weight and just calorie counting for the last few.
  • sabinaholtby
    sabinaholtby Posts: 73 Member
    Are you looking for a way to avoid surgery? Doing a two week course of Stonebreaker by Herb Pharm can help a lot if your GB is not necrotic or badly infected already. It has saved a number of friends of mine from losing their GBs.

    Sometimes they never find out why someone got pancreatitis. I got acute pancreatitis but no sign of any stones, etc. that could have blocked the common bile duct (which is what they usually see). It was finally decided by several doctors after doing some research that they thought mine was probably caused by nutrasweet. We'll never really know what caused mine, but you can bet I don't touch artificial sweeteners anymore. I nearly died from the pancreatitis. I'm not willing to take an even remote risk of that again. :# But realistically, you may never know "why."

    THIS is interesting, I did start drinking diet soda to help me stay within my calorie range when I dropped it. Hmmm....
    mitch16 wrote: »
    The low fat diet that they've prescribed for now is definitely in your best interest... Eating high fat food could send you into a full-blown attack (which, for me, was some of the most incredible pain that I've ever felt--it rivaled labor!)..

    I have had 2 babies 19 mo apart. The pain, for me was worse than labor!! I kept telling the nurses that in the ER! haha
  • thegoat1987
    thegoat1987 Posts: 36 Member
    edited May 2017
    I work in ICU. If it was me and they were recommending removing my gall bladder because of pancreatitis I would do it. When things go acutely wrong with pancreatitis they go very wrong, very quickly and it is a slow, extremely painful thing to survive and some people don't survive.

    I would focus on getting better and following their dietary recommendations right now rather than worrying too much about your weight loss goals.

    Thanks, fully appreciate this. You must see some very serious cases. Yes I do totally agree, it's a scary condition - I never realised until I had it. The nurses and doctors were incredible but I am still looking for answers. I don't understand how, aged 30, I could have gotten this?

    Hoping to get a bit more to the root of the problem before I undergo the surgery. I am also reading about the possible complications, and whether or not I want to live without a gallbladder for the rest of my life.
    I was in the ER this week for gallstones. I am going to follow this thread, but from what I've read the weight loss could be what triggers it. I was there 6 months ago for another stone, the gallbladder is never inflamed so they don't do the emergency surgery, but it is the most pain I've ever been in when it hits. I'm so sorry your going through it. I was stuck at 160 for 4 weeks, as soon as finally hit 159, that's when I had the attack, I had eaten a VERY low fat diet that day, no trigger foods. So frustrating, also seems to be connected to hormones.

    I am so so sorry to hear that you got hit twice by gallstones! Do the doctors want to remove your gallbladder too? Weight loss or genetics are my main suspects - but if weight loss then just why?? I've never eaten more healthily than in the past year! Good luck to you on your journey, I hope we both find some answers soon.

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