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  • FairlyLisa
    FairlyLisa Posts: 18 Member
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    toxikon wrote: »
    You could eat 1200 calories of oranges or 1200 calories of MacDonalds a day and you'd still lose the same amount of weight.

    But you surely would not LOOK the same - if you only ate McDonald's or only ate oranges I can't imagine your body shape would be the same. You would probably be puffy on all the McD's sodium.

    That said - you need a balance to diet. My trainer recommended a veggie and a protein for every snack/meal.

    Some of my favorite combos: oatmeal/peanut butter powder/carrots. Gilbert chicken sausage - scrambled egg - peppers(prefer orange or yellow) or Greek Yogurt with basil and garlic to dip veggies into.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    But you surely would not LOOK the same - if you only ate McDonald's or only ate oranges I can't imagine your body shape would be the same. You would probably be puffy on all the McD's sodium.

    I'm not a fan of McD's personally, and am certainly not recommending an all McD's diet (although how healthy it is depends on the choices you make). But an all McD's diet wouldn't make most people puffy (increasing sodium leads to water retention and decreasing leads to a drop, but if it's a pretty standard amount most would likely not be noticeably "puffy," unless they were fitness competitors or some such). More significantly, the McD's diet would include protein, fat, carbs, and even vegetables if you order well (not enough vegetables, IMO, but that's about health, it's unlikely to affect muscle retention or how you look in the short term). A diet of all oranges, on the other hand, would be missing essential nutrients like protein and fats, and be extremely unhealthy for anything but a very short term, and probably would result in more loss of muscle.

    Neither is ideal, especially if you only have 1200 calories to play with. But so often people seem to approach nutrition as about bad foods (McD) vs. good foods (fruit and veg) and ignore that the real important thing is whether the overall diet is nutritionally adequate and healthy.
    That said - you need a balance to diet. My trainer recommended a veggie and a protein for every snack/meal.

    Agree with the first sentence, and building all meals around protein and vegetables is my own approach.

    If OP wants to build in more room for fruit and is meeting the requirements, though, that can be fine too.
  • nowine4me
    nowine4me Posts: 3,985 Member
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    Go nuts -- have an Apple or banana!
  • celeste821
    celeste821 Posts: 14 Member
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    When i said I could eat 5 oranges in on sitting, that was to illustrate how much "a lot" is. I tend to eat fruit all day but around 6pm I want food.
  • 150poundsofme
    150poundsofme Posts: 523 Member
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    Have you had your blood sugar checked lately? Fruit has a lot of sugar.
  • JeromeBarry1
    JeromeBarry1 Posts: 10,182 Member
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    @celeste821 Log your food accurately, and that means use a digital scale to weigh it, for a couple of weeks and then figure the answer to your question. The Reports function can tell you about your intake of various macros and micros. Examine your Reports each day to see if you are perhaps overdoing some and under-doing others.
    Adjust your eating accordingly.

    https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/nutrients/index can help you find foods that have the nutrients you lack.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    What is your hair loss goal? If you aren't getting enough protein that's what you have to worry about next.
  • Duchy82
    Duchy82 Posts: 560 Member
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    ValeriePlz wrote: »
    Try to combine fruit with a good protein or fat, like bananas or apples and nut butter, or melons with cottage cheese, etc. etc.

    I get annoyed when MFP warns me about my sugar goal when the only sugar I've had is fresh fruit. Then I eat pancakes and it gives me a high five because the pancakes are "low in saturated fat." OK, MFP.

    You can switch those messages off if they annoy you. I have, I don't need mfp to tell me what good choices are and what aren't.
  • Dabbadooey
    Dabbadooey Posts: 10 Member
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    Have you had your blood sugar checked lately? Fruit has a lot of sugar.

    Are you saying that eating a lot of fruit can cause diabetes?
  • lilysillycat
    lilysillycat Posts: 159 Member
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    Dabbadooey wrote: »
    Have you had your blood sugar checked lately? Fruit has a lot of sugar.

    Are you saying that eating a lot of fruit can cause diabetes?

    having a lot of sugar in any form may cause diabetes. At the min it may lead to insulin resistance which make losing weight very very difficult.
  • Sunna_W
    Sunna_W Posts: 744 Member
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    In the research that I have read, it is important to balance healthy fats and proteins and reduce sugar and carbohydrates when counting calories.

    Healthy fats can provide energy, satiety, lubricate joints, and keep the brain firing on all cylinders.
    Ref: https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/saturated-fat-body-good/
    http://www.eatthis.com/healthy-fats

    Adequate protein ensures that muscles (including your heart, digestive organs and blood vessels) aren't sacrificed during weight loss. Do not sacrifice protein on a limited calorie diet.
    Ref: https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/protein-building-blocks-of-the-body/
    http://www.innerbody.com/image/musfov.html

    Reducing sugar and carbohydrates makes your body burn stored fat for energy.
    Ref: https://draxe.com/low-carb-diet/

    FYI - in times of fever / flu / colds / vigorous exercise your body needs sugar / carbs for quick energy. If this energy isn't used up, it can be stored as fat.

    BTW - sugar feeds yeast (candida)
    Ref: https://www.liverdoctor.com/is-a-candida-infection-driving-your-sugar-cravings/

    Long term, though, you need about 100 g of carbs a day...
    Ref: https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/why-we-need-carbs/

    Finally, I don't know what your weight loss goals are or how much you are trying to lose, but, IMO trying to lose too much, too fast can cause imbalances and actually work against you. It's better to add about 200 more calories a day so that your body doesn't think that it is starving. Weight loss is slower, but, your are at less risk for actually gaining your calories back (because you can actually maintain 1400 calories more easily long term). Once your body is in balance, you will naturally gravitate toward a lower daily intake (between 1100 - 1350); and, this will fluctuate based on your activity level, amount of sleep, etc.

    Ref: http://www.shawnmynar.com/why-calorie-restriction-will-make-you-fat/
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    There's misinformation on that Weston Price site.

    Sugar does not cause diabetes. Being overweight is a risk factor however. Once someone becomes insulin resistant then they have to monitor their carb intake, because their pancreas can't do it all any more.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,576 Member
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    celeste821 wrote: »
    When i said I could eat 5 oranges in on sitting, that was to illustrate how much "a lot" is. I tend to eat fruit all day but around 6pm I want food.

    It seems not so much that you are eating too much fruit, but that you are not eating enough other food.
  • celeste821
    celeste821 Posts: 14 Member
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    Have you had your blood sugar checked lately? Fruit has a lot of sugar.

    I haven't been in like a year and a half but all my levels were good except vit d, vit b, and good cholesterol was low
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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