My best friend doesnt believe in CICO

MelanieCN77 · May 2017

tinkerbellang83 wrote: »

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, if she feels strongly (even if she is wrong) just leave it there, if she makes comments about what you're eating, tell her you don't want to discuss it with her, you're doing what works for you. You know it works and that's all that matters.

Yeah but you don't get to have an opinion about a science fact.

Also OP, I like how she went from hearing about it for the first time to telling you that you are "getting obsessed." Projecting much?

SolotoCEO · May 2017

CICO is the ONLY thing that works. It's not about the low carbs, IF, Paleo, etc.... It is all about expending more calories than you burn. You are right on track - keep it up! Although, if you are eating back calories that Fitbit says you burned you could gain weight. In my experience FibBit is sooooo far from accurate you don't want to trust it (it's almost as bad as MFP in that regard).

Francl27 · May 2017

I just laugh at the idea that people assume that frozen yogurt is healthier than ice cream.

snickerscharlie · May 2017

susanp57 wrote: »

What I find weird is that she thinks hiking isn't exercise and you can only exercise in a gym.

This. ^^^

I guess it's because they consider gym exercise as 'purposeful' whereas hiking is 'just walking around.' <insert eye-rolly here.>

What is amusing, though, is one hour of just walking around burns *way* more calories than the same hour spent in a gym lifting weights, getting all sweaty and feeling self-righteous.

snowflake954 · May 2017

OP I feel for you. When you talk to supposedly intelligent people and they shoot you down in an illogical fashion, it's surprising. If she's thin, then her lifestyle works for her. Healthy is being bandied about--it's the new fad word right now. Healthy + CICO is best, but without CICO you're just spining your wheels. Keep up the good work.

Silentpadna · May 2017

laurenebargar wrote: »

So the title says it all. My best friend doesn't believe in CICO. I only told them recently that I started losing weight ( I told them once I was 15 lbs down) we went for a hike the other day, and then were walking back to their house, we stopped for ice cream. I had a ton of calories left so I got a flavor I actually wanted rather than just frozen yogurt. She was shocked and told me i'd never lose weight if im eating ice cream, and that our hike didnt count as exercise because we weren't in a gym (we burned over 1000 calories according to my fitbit!) I explained to her what MFP is all about it, and CICO and she said I was "getting obsessive" with calories I need to stop focusing on that, and eat only healthy foods and go to the gym for an hour every day, dont pay attention to calories. Im shocked that she would have such a strong opinion on it, shes a science major so I assumed something simple like CICO would make sense to her, you need to burn more calories than your body is taking in. Finally I explained I could eat one scoop of ice cream every day, even if thats all I ate, and I was in calorie deficit I would lose weight, she simply just said no you would gain weight and be terribly unhealthy. I agree you wouldnt be healthy, but you would still lose weight. That was it, she said after she didnt want to talk about it anymore. What do you guys think? I know CICO works, its been working for me, and so many other people on MFP. Why do people think CICO wont work??

Two things i recommend:

1) Ask her if she were wrong, how would she know? (She's a science major; she should be able to answer that question easily).
2) Prove it to her.

Ready2Rock206 · May 2017

Because if it was really that easy anyone could do it and then people would lose all the excuses as to why they can't lose weight. So the only real way to lose weight is something so difficult and complicated they can't possibly do it.

This is why I try to never talk to people about weight loss. It is rarely a productive conversation. You know you're correct - don't worry about her beliefs.

Noreenmarie1234 · May 2017

Francl27 wrote: »

I just laugh at the idea that people assume that frozen yogurt is healthier than ice cream.

My aunt says she hasn't eaten ice cream in months and doesnt know why she can't lose weight. I asked what about the pint of ice cream you eat every night she goes "thats not ice cream thats just yogurt, frozen yogurt"!

*facepalm*

PaulaWallaDingDong · May 2017

Francl27 wrote: »

I just laugh at the idea that people assume that frozen yogurt is healthier than ice cream.

My sister has a friend who says she makes smoothies with yogurt for her super healthy breakfast. Asked what kind of yogurt, she replied "frozen yogurt." Guuuuuuuurl that's a milkshake. You're having milkshakes for breakfast.

snickerscharlie · May 2017

Silentpadna wrote: »

laurenebargar wrote: »

So the title says it all. My best friend doesn't believe in CICO. I only told them recently that I started losing weight ( I told them once I was 15 lbs down) we went for a hike the other day, and then were walking back to their house, we stopped for ice cream. I had a ton of calories left so I got a flavor I actually wanted rather than just frozen yogurt. She was shocked and told me i'd never lose weight if im eating ice cream, and that our hike didnt count as exercise because we weren't in a gym (we burned over 1000 calories according to my fitbit!) I explained to her what MFP is all about it, and CICO and she said I was "getting obsessive" with calories I need to stop focusing on that, and eat only healthy foods and go to the gym for an hour every day, dont pay attention to calories. Im shocked that she would have such a strong opinion on it, shes a science major so I assumed something simple like CICO would make sense to her, you need to burn more calories than your body is taking in. Finally I explained I could eat one scoop of ice cream every day, even if thats all I ate, and I was in calorie deficit I would lose weight, she simply just said no you would gain weight and be terribly unhealthy. I agree you wouldnt be healthy, but you would still lose weight. That was it, she said after she didnt want to talk about it anymore. What do you guys think? I know CICO works, its been working for me, and so many other people on MFP. Why do people think CICO wont work??

Two things i recommend:

1) Ask her if she were wrong, how would she know? (She's a science major; she should be able to answer that question easily).
2) Prove it to her.

3) Get a new best friend.

edlanglais5 · May 2017

Funny I had 3 Cinnabon muffins ( baked from the can) yesterday for breakfast and I'm still dropping. Honestly, eating healthier is easier to maintain a deficit because the hunger may be satisfied on less calories. But no sense in depriving yourself of the occasional splurge.

Barbs2222 · May 2017

What bothers me about your post is how you're excited finding mfp and calorie counting works and your friend is completely unsupportive. I mean she can't even hear you out? Is she the kind of person that has to be "right" about everything all the time?

Edited to say that the "getting obsessive" comment was really rude and uncalled for. I would have wanted to slap the *kitten*.

DebLaBounty · May 2017

I don't get why your "friend" tried to shame you about your choice. What a bully.

tonyyung779 · May 2017

People don't need to believe in gravity or relativity either... doesn't make them any less true.

Maxematics · May 2017

So let me get this straight. Your best friend shames you for choosing ice cream, tells you that you won't lose weight that way, then when you defend yourself she doesn't want to talk about it anymore? Sorry but your best friend sucks and doesn't seem like much of a friend at all. I usually dislike making assumptions but it seems like since your friend has always been thin, and possibly has undereaten to stay that way since she doesn't understand CICO, she sees you losing weight, especially with such flexible dieting, as a threat and is trying to tear you down. The shunning of science is one thing but I'd seriously be reevaluating your friendship with her if I were you.

ktekc · May 2017

Some people actually believe the earth is flat as well...i just continue on and hope they fall off the edge one day. Some people just can't be taught.