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Sugar, The Bitter Truth
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Tazzie0208 wrote: »Sugar is not to be omitted from your diet. Your brain needs sugar.
LOL, no. You can omit sugar completely from your diet and be fine. Your body will make the glucose it needs from the complex carbohydrates you eat, or from fat and/or protein (gluconeogenesis) if you don't eat many carbs.3 -
It's crazy, but I somehow managed to accidentally lose weight, while trying to bulk, eating well over 3000 kcals per day, with over 20% of it being simple sugars, and another 35% being other carbs.
Also, I have health markers that many would kill for.
BrB, trading in my pounds of fruit and dextrose for butter in coffee as a prelift meal, because ketovangelist swears I'm gonna get the beetus.16 -
I watched it a few years ago and found it interesting. I think there is something to what he has said.
No, it is not the sole cause of the obesity epidemic but I doubt it is benign when it comes to our health.
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Tazzie0208 wrote: »Sugar is not to be omitted from your diet. Your brain needs sugar. We function with the help of sugar. What needs to be done is as we all know, follow a balanced diet. Everything in moderation. Be mindful. That is all.
No your body doesn't need sugar. It doesn't need carbs at all, for that matter (and a few people manage to function just fine with a diet containing virtually no carbs) (not me!). the body can make everything it needs from fats and proteins.
so then how does one get the nutrients they need that fruits and veggies provide? those things are carbs(sugar)2 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Tazzie0208 wrote: »Sugar is not to be omitted from your diet. Your brain needs sugar. We function with the help of sugar. What needs to be done is as we all know, follow a balanced diet. Everything in moderation. Be mindful. That is all.
No your body doesn't need sugar. It doesn't need carbs at all, for that matter (and a few people manage to function just fine with a diet containing virtually no carbs) (not me!). the body can make everything it needs from fats and proteins.
so then how does one get the nutrients they need that fruits and veggies provide? those things are carbs(sugar)
I think they mean that dietary sugar or carbs are not needed, which is true.
... I think my carb total for this month during an animal products challenge is about 30g. Carbs definitely haven't been needed.0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Tazzie0208 wrote: »Sugar is not to be omitted from your diet. Your brain needs sugar. We function with the help of sugar. What needs to be done is as we all know, follow a balanced diet. Everything in moderation. Be mindful. That is all.
No your body doesn't need sugar. It doesn't need carbs at all, for that matter (and a few people manage to function just fine with a diet containing virtually no carbs) (not me!). the body can make everything it needs from fats and proteins.
so then how does one get the nutrients they need that fruits and veggies provide? those things are carbs(sugar)
I think they mean that dietary sugar or carbs are not needed, which is true.
... I think my carb total for this month during an animal products challenge is about 30g. Carbs definitely haven't been needed.
they may not be needed to function, but if you cut out fruits and veggies would you not be denying your body of certain nutrients only those things can provide? how is the body going to make certain nutrients from fats and protein if the food doesnt contain it?2 -
Marigolds333 wrote: »https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
Sugar, The Bitter Truth.. This is about an hour long , but VERY worth watching. Very informative.
@Marigolds333 thanks for sharing that the type of calories consumed can make a difference in weight loss/gain.0 -
Tazzie0208 wrote: »the body can make everything it needs from fats and proteins.
This is not true; there are a few things that we need in order to function. There are nutrients that are called essential nutrients. These have to be consumed by humans and cannot be made by the body from fats and proteins! That is why they are called essential. The Wikipedia page is quite decent in giving a readable overview of that. But for instance only humans, primates and guinea pigs are not able to produce vitamin C themselves, therefore we need to take it up through our food.1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Marigolds333 wrote: »https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
Sugar, The Bitter Truth.. This is about an hour long , but VERY worth watching. Very informative.
@Marigolds333 thanks for sharing that the type of calories consumed can make a difference in weight loss/gain.
Even though it's completely untrue and has been scientifically disproven?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316911061_A_Calorie_is_Still_a_Calorie_According_to_Rigorous_New_Evidence10 -
Is this a good place to plug the book Diet Cults, by Matt Fitzgerald?17
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Is this a good place to plug the book Diet Cults, by Matt Fitzgerald?
Or how about a detailed discussion/analysis of the Hall Study, which scientifically proved that the carbohydrate-insulin model of obesity is completely false?: http://shreddedbyscience.com/ketogenic-diets-actually-work-study-review/10 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Is this a good place to plug the book Diet Cults, by Matt Fitzgerald?
Or how about a detailed discussion/analysis of the Hall Study, which scientifically proved that the carbohydrate-insulin model of obesity is completely false?: http://shreddedbyscience.com/ketogenic-diets-actually-work-study-review/
But but, Inuits and poorly interpreted archeological records, and somethingsomething diabeetus.11 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Marigolds333 wrote: »https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
Sugar, The Bitter Truth.. This is about an hour long , but VERY worth watching. Very informative.
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
A link for you to read OP.
or something more authorative and up to date:
http://sugarscience.ucsf.edu/4 -
Gianfranco_R wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Marigolds333 wrote: »https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
Sugar, The Bitter Truth.. This is about an hour long , but VERY worth watching. Very informative.
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
A link for you to read OP.
or something more authorative and up to date:
http://sugarscience.ucsf.edu/
That is just the UK guidelines on getting manufactures to reduce the sugar content by 20%.4 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Marigolds333 wrote: »https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
Sugar, The Bitter Truth.. This is about an hour long , but VERY worth watching. Very informative.
@Marigolds333 thanks for sharing that the type of calories consumed can make a difference in weight loss/gain.
You still don't grasp that a calorie is a unit of energy - they are uniform, that's how units of measurement work!
If you mean food, say food. If you mean nutrition, say nutrition.14 -
I've watched it before. Pretty much *kitten*.3
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Tazzie0208 wrote: »Sugar is not to be omitted from your diet. Your brain needs sugar. We function with the help of sugar. What needs to be done is as we all know, follow a balanced diet. Everything in moderation. Be mindful. That is all.
No your body doesn't need sugar. It doesn't need carbs at all, for that matter (and a few people manage to function just fine with a diet containing virtually no carbs) (not me!). the body can make everything it needs from fats and proteins.
so then how does one get the nutrients they need that fruits and veggies provide? those things are carbs(sugar)
I think they mean that dietary sugar or carbs are not needed, which is true.
... I think my carb total for this month during an animal products challenge is about 30g. Carbs definitely haven't been needed.
they may not be needed to function, but if you cut out fruits and veggies would you not be denying your body of certain nutrients only those things can provide? how is the body going to make certain nutrients from fats and protein if the food doesnt contain it?
All nutrients are available in animal products. Some are actually more bio available in that form.
Fibre is about the only thing that is missing but it is really only a benefit when digesting plant matter. It is not needed for a animal based diet.
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"Sugar: The complete *kitten*" is a lot more accurate.3
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GaleHawkins wrote: »Marigolds333 wrote: »https://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
Sugar, The Bitter Truth.. This is about an hour long , but VERY worth watching. Very informative.
@Marigolds333 thanks for sharing that the type of calories consumed can make a difference in weight loss/gain.
Even though it's completely untrue and has been scientifically disproven?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316911061_A_Calorie_is_Still_a_Calorie_According_to_Rigorous_New_Evidence
Conclusion Outpatient studies involving nutrients commonly involve insurmountable methodological and/or practical limitations. Even in the two well-designed studies discussed, future replication in larger randomized controlled trials is needed. Nonetheless, these metabolic studies not only provide their own important data, but pointedly add to the already considerable data base[13]. In particular, the carbohydrate–insulin hypothesis predicts a low-CHO diet, as compared with a isocaloric high-fat diet, will lower plasma insulin, cause a release of sequestered fat from adipose tissue, which will then be oxidized and lead to weight loss. These two rigorous studies, which may serve as a model for larger studies, found the opposite. The greater significance is that data which form the basis for public health policy must be of the highest caliber, using objective, repeatable, meticulous design. In weighing merits of hypotheses, Carl Sagan advised “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”
A Calorie is Still a Calorie, According to Rigorous New Evidence (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316911061_A_Calorie_is_Still_a_Calorie_According_to_Rigorous_New_Evidence [accessed Jun 3, 2017].
Do you have any research that is germane to the OP?2
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