Petite frame, very active but very hungry and CAN'T LOSE weight!!

ellie771
ellie771 Posts: 15 Member
edited November 19 in Food and Nutrition
I am just over 5' which puts me with low BMR calories requirements to begin with, so attaining to a caloric deficit op top of that is really difficult. I do intense cardio 2-3x week and weight lifting 2x week. With my frame, restricting calories puts me in the very low range & the exercise makes me super hungry and unable to maintain 1300-1400 cals a day required for weight loss.

I've been working extremely hard at the gym for 6 months now with barely any body fat reduction to show for it. Any other ladies out there with a similar plight? What do you do to keep satiated on a low calorie diet while maintaining an exercise program? Any examples of what has helped you lose weight? For context, I am about 5 feet tall and need to lose 15-20 pounds.

Any help is much appreciated! I Am getting married in August and feel so hopeless that I have nothing to show for my work... :(

Thank you!

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  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    edited June 2017
    How are you determining how much you're eating? Do you weigh (solids) and measure (liquids) everything you put in your mouth?

    If you're not losing, you're likely not in a deficit. Do you have any medical reason why your energy needs would be lower?

    Feeling fuller comes from finding a macro breakdown and meal schedule that suits you. Some like lots of starchy carbs, some like lots of fat, some like fibre, some like protein (and combinations of these things). I like eating bigger meals less frequently, instead of lots of mini meals - that's personal preference. Mini meals spread through the day make me feel constantly starving.
  • ellie771
    ellie771 Posts: 15 Member
    I do log (and weigh) all solids and most liquids (in the form of skim milk in my coffee). The rest of the liquids are water and no calories drinks. No medical reasons except that I am short (5 ft) and don't weigh a lot in the grand scheme of things, which means that I just need much less calories to maintain, and even less to create a deficit.
    Using different formulas a 15-20% deficit puts me in ~1400 range, which I just feel is so little to get thru a full day's work and exercise on top of that.

    I suspect that i am not creating a deficit (although it feels like it from being in constant hunger), so maybe its the wrong combinations of foods that I am eating that keep me hungry (overall food is healthy with a low cal protein bar as a treat)
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    ellie771 wrote: »
    I do log (and weigh) all solids and most liquids (in the form of skim milk in my coffee). The rest of the liquids are water and no calories drinks. No medical reasons except that I am short (5 ft) and don't weigh a lot in the grand scheme of things, which means that I just need much less calories to maintain, and even less to create a deficit.
    Using different formulas a 15-20% deficit puts me in ~1400 range, which I just feel is so little to get thru a full day's work and exercise on top of that.

    I suspect that i am not creating a deficit (although it feels like it from being in constant hunger), so maybe its the wrong combinations of foods that I am eating that keep me hungry (overall food is healthy with a low cal protein bar as a treat)

    Most of my days are 1400-1500 at the moment. I sort of intermittent fast, without being overly regimented. I don't eat breakfast and save calories for later... I find it helps with the hunger.

    What is your macro breakdown like?
  • MichelleWithMoxie
    MichelleWithMoxie Posts: 1,817 Member
    I'm 5'1", been maintaining btwn 103-106 lbs since February, and am able to average about 1800 cals/day by upping my calorie burn. Unfortunately that's what us shorties have to do if we want to eat bigger - and I love to eat! Luckily I love to run too and am a distance runner, so I haven't run into a lot of issues yet.

    So, maybe try upping your calorie burn to bank more calories to eat?
  • Rozzer84
    Rozzer84 Posts: 12 Member
    You need to eat more! I used to be just like you before I started flexible eating. I'm 5'1 and my weight loss plateaus because I was starving my body of the extra fuel it needed to make the workouts in the gym actually produce any results. I started flexible eating and then reverse dieting. I worked my way up from 1200 calories to 2000 calories & look & feel the best I have in my life! If you want some help with this check out this free Facebook support group https://www.facebook.com/groups/OwnYourEatingTribe/ or free resources on http://ownyoureating.com
  • bbell1985
    bbell1985 Posts: 4,571 Member
    I had a little more success when I cut back on cardio. I know that usually isn't what people say but...cardio kinda just made me hungry. I dropped better with lifting in a deficit and moderate to no cardio.
  • ellie771
    ellie771 Posts: 15 Member
    edited June 2017
    I'm not super consistent but overall 45-50% carbs with the remainder equally from protein and fat. Don't think that I can handle fasting (would get too hungry and just overeat everything). Do you have a heavier dinner so that you can skip breakfast?
  • LisaEatSleepRun
    LisaEatSleepRun Posts: 159 Member
    5’3” and 127 lbs here, so while I have a little more wiggle room, I too have had to increase my daily calorie burn substantially so I can eat more and still lose! I have lost almost 70 lbs (almost at goal) and actually eat more than I did before! I run 40-60 km per week and try to get 20-40 k steps per day (a lot, i know). With this level of activity I can eat 2000 to 2200 calories and still lose weight. Eating 1200 - 1500 calories a day was making me miserable, so I decided to walk...run...hop skip & jump each day and enjoy feeling satiated. I would recommend you lower your weekly loss goal to 1/2 lb as you don't have much to lose and will be able to eat a bit more and still get there...eventually. Good luck!
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    ellie771 wrote: »
    I'm not super consistent but overall 45-50% carbs with the remainder equally from protein and fat. Don't think that I can handle fasting (would get too hungry and just overeat everything). Do you have a heavier dinner so that you can skip breakfast?

    I didn't think I could handle skipping breakfast either.... Til I did it. I eat most of my calories after 730pm.

    Perhaps try increasing protein and fat slightly?
  • bbell1985
    bbell1985 Posts: 4,571 Member
    ellie771 wrote: »
    I'm not super consistent but overall 45-50% carbs with the remainder equally from protein and fat. Don't think that I can handle fasting (would get too hungry and just overeat everything). Do you have a heavier dinner so that you can skip breakfast?

    Oh yeah. Skipping breakfast is like the only way I can lose at this point. It makes the rest of the day soooo much more pleasant. I get up at 4:45 am and eat my first meal around 12. Even that meal is only 200 calories or so. Then I finish the remainder between 4 and 9 pm.
  • ellie771
    ellie771 Posts: 15 Member
    @LisaEatSleepRun wow congratulations on your success! That's huge progress for anyone especially petite ladies. I'd love to up my daily movement aside from the several weekly workouts but have a 40+ hour a week office job. Maybe adding an hour's walk will help with the calorie burn. Thanks for the advice!
  • ellie771
    ellie771 Posts: 15 Member
    edited June 2017
    MichSmish wrote: »
    I'm 5'1", been maintaining btwn 103-106 lbs since February, and am able to average about 1800 cals/day by upping my calorie burn. Unfortunately that's what us shorties have to do if we want to eat bigger - and I love to eat! Luckily I love to run too and am a distance runner, so I haven't run into a lot of issues yet.

    So, maybe try upping your calorie burn to bank more calories to eat?

    That's my goal weight actually. How often do you run and how many miles at a time? On a good day I can do 6 but so drained after that can only do 4 or 5 for the rest of the week with rest in btwn. Running is great but it hurts my legs so I need to recover after. Bit then running always makes me ravenous so I can easily cancel out my deficit after all that hard work.
  • ellie771
    ellie771 Posts: 15 Member
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    I had a little more success when I cut back on cardio. I know that usually isn't what people say but...cardio kinda just made me hungry. I dropped better with lifting in a deficit and moderate to no cardio.

    Interesting. Do you lift after a deficit from your TDEE?
  • bbell1985
    bbell1985 Posts: 4,571 Member
    ellie771 wrote: »
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    I had a little more success when I cut back on cardio. I know that usually isn't what people say but...cardio kinda just made me hungry. I dropped better with lifting in a deficit and moderate to no cardio.

    Interesting. Do you lift after a deficit from your TDEE?

    What? My lifting is included in my lightly active activity level/TDEE.
  • ellie771
    ellie771 Posts: 15 Member
    redhd29leo wrote: »
    Maybe your body is telling you that your weight is fine and you do not need to lose

    I could've believed that except that a few years ago I was able to get to my goal doing exactly as I do now, but now it's just not having the same results. I'm in my early 30s and this was just a few years ago so hopefully my metabolism didn't drop that much just yet...
  • ellie771
    ellie771 Posts: 15 Member
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    ellie771 wrote: »
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    I had a little more success when I cut back on cardio. I know that usually isn't what people say but...cardio kinda just made me hungry. I dropped better with lifting in a deficit and moderate to no cardio.

    Interesting. Do you lift after a deficit from your TDEE?

    What? My lifting is included in my lightly active activity level/TDEE.

    Right sorry, so you create a calorie deficit thru food from your TDEE (which is lightly active, including mostly weight training)?
  • bbell1985
    bbell1985 Posts: 4,571 Member
    ellie771 wrote: »
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    ellie771 wrote: »
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    I had a little more success when I cut back on cardio. I know that usually isn't what people say but...cardio kinda just made me hungry. I dropped better with lifting in a deficit and moderate to no cardio.

    Interesting. Do you lift after a deficit from your TDEE?

    What? My lifting is included in my lightly active activity level/TDEE.

    Right sorry, so you create a calorie deficit thru food from your TDEE (which is lightly active, including mostly weight training)?

    Yes. I maintain on 1900. I eat 1500 Sunday-Friday and 2030 on Saturday. Average 1600 daily for around .5lbs lost per week. But I don't lose weekly because it's just hard when you're relatively lean already.
  • MichelleWithMoxie
    MichelleWithMoxie Posts: 1,817 Member
    ellie771 wrote: »
    MichSmish wrote: »
    I'm 5'1", been maintaining btwn 103-106 lbs since February, and am able to average about 1800 cals/day by upping my calorie burn. Unfortunately that's what us shorties have to do if we want to eat bigger - and I love to eat! Luckily I love to run too and am a distance runner, so I haven't run into a lot of issues yet.

    So, maybe try upping your calorie burn to bank more calories to eat?

    That's my goal weight actually. How often do you run and how many miles at a time? On a good day I can do 6 but so drained after that can only do 4 or 5 for the rest of the week with rest in btwn. Running is great but it hurts my legs so I need to recover after. Bit then running always makes me ravenous so I can easily cancel out my deficit after all that hard work.

    I run about 10 miles/day. I've been distance training for over 10 years, and an athlete my whole life (32 years old now), so it has required conditioning, but it's habitual now, just like brushing my teeth every day.
  • neldabg
    neldabg Posts: 1,452 Member
    Yes. We shorties don't have it easy. I find it much more manageable to spread my cardio out throughout the day (i.e. quick walks) in order to avoid cardio hunger. On days I knock out my 10k in one go, I need to fuel properly before or after or else I'll feel ravenous long after.
  • ellie771
    ellie771 Posts: 15 Member
    neldabg wrote: »
    Yes. We shorties don't have it easy. I find it much more manageable to spread my cardio out throughout the day (i.e. quick walks) in order to avoid cardio hunger. On days I knock out my 10k in one go, I need to fuel properly before or after or else I'll feel ravenous long after.

    Indeed we don't, but when the pounds come on they're visible instantly! Really appreciate everyone's suggestions on here. I might consider switching to low impact cardio and sticking to current weight routine to avoid hunger pangs and see if i can maintain cals in the 1400 range. Seems like it may work better for those who can't tolerate hunger and love to eat!
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    Rozzer84 wrote: »
    You need to eat more! I used to be just like you before I started flexible eating. I'm 5'1 and my weight loss plateaus because I was starving my body of the extra fuel it needed to make the workouts in the gym actually produce any results. I started flexible eating and then reverse dieting. I worked my way up from 1200 calories to 2000 calories & look & feel the best I have in my life! If you want some help with this check out this free Facebook support group https://www.facebook.com/groups/OwnYourEatingTribe/ or free resources on http://ownyoureating.com

    you dont plateau because your body is starving, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight its all about CICO.your body isnt going to hang onto anything in a deficit.
  • Luna3386
    Luna3386 Posts: 888 Member
    Rozzer84 wrote: »
    You need to eat more! I used to be just like you before I started flexible eating. I'm 5'1 and my weight loss plateaus because I was starving my body of the extra fuel it needed to make the workouts in the gym actually produce any results. I started flexible eating and then reverse dieting. I worked my way up from 1200 calories to 2000 calories & look & feel the best I have in my life! If you want some help with this check out this free Facebook support group https://www.facebook.com/groups/OwnYourEatingTribe/ or free resources on http://ownyoureating.com

    you dont plateau because your body is starving, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight its all about CICO.your body isnt going to hang onto anything in a deficit.

    Yes but lots of anedoctal​ experience of women shows that often reverse dieting or coming out of a cut into maintenance will help them drop a few more pounds and maintains on higher calories.
  • tiptoethruthetulips
    tiptoethruthetulips Posts: 3,371 Member
    ellie771 wrote: »
    I am just over 5' which puts me with low BMR calories requirements to begin with, so attaining to a caloric deficit op top of that is really difficult. I do intense cardio 2-3x week and weight lifting 2x week. With my frame, restricting calories puts me in the very low range & the exercise makes me super hungry and unable to maintain 1300-1400 cals a day required for weight loss.

    I've been working extremely hard at the gym for 6 months now with barely any body fat reduction to show for it. Any other ladies out there with a similar plight? What do you do to keep satiated on a low calorie diet while maintaining an exercise program? Any examples of what has helped you lose weight? For context, I am about 5 feet tall and need to lose 15-20 pounds.

    Any help is much appreciated! I Am getting married in August and feel so hopeless that I have nothing to show for my work... :(

    Thank you!

    You don't say how much you currently weight...though you want to lose 15-20lb it may be that you are already a low weight and don't have a lot fat to lose.

    What is your weight and do you have an idea or est of body fat %?
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    Luna3386 wrote: »
    Rozzer84 wrote: »
    You need to eat more! I used to be just like you before I started flexible eating. I'm 5'1 and my weight loss plateaus because I was starving my body of the extra fuel it needed to make the workouts in the gym actually produce any results. I started flexible eating and then reverse dieting. I worked my way up from 1200 calories to 2000 calories & look & feel the best I have in my life! If you want some help with this check out this free Facebook support group https://www.facebook.com/groups/OwnYourEatingTribe/ or free resources on http://ownyoureating.com

    you dont plateau because your body is starving, if you are in a deficit you will lose weight its all about CICO.your body isnt going to hang onto anything in a deficit.

    Yes but lots of anedoctal​ experience of women shows that often reverse dieting or coming out of a cut into maintenance will help them drop a few more pounds and maintains on higher calories.

    anedoctal doesnt mean its true,its not based on fact/scientific proof or anything else. I can claim that certain foods helped me to lose weight by burning fat. Doesnt make it true which its not but anyone can claim anything. .if they are maintaining on higher calories then most likely they raised their TDEE. many will say once they became more active that they were able to eat more food/maintain weight on more calories. its because they increased their activity.
  • Rozzer84
    Rozzer84 Posts: 12 Member
    I have lost weight by increasing my food whilst keeping my activity the same. You don't just burn calories by increasing your activity, your body burns more calories to support muscle growth & repair, brain activity & digestion (thermic effect of food). I used to think I had to run marathons & eat 1200 calories a day to achieve my body fat goals or always be in a caloric deficit. That's wrong.
    Now I workout 1 hour a day (CrossFit classes not running or endurance activity), 5 days a week. Other than that I'm pretty sedentary but I now eat 2,000 cals a day & am maintaining 103lbs with muscle. In my experience, reverse dieting works.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    Rozzer84 wrote: »
    I have lost weight by increasing my food whilst keeping my activity the same. You don't just burn calories by increasing your activity, your body burns more calories to support muscle growth & repair, brain activity & digestion (thermic effect of food). I used to think I had to run marathons & eat 1200 calories a day to achieve my body fat goals or always be in a caloric deficit. That's wrong.
    Now I workout 1 hour a day (CrossFit classes not running or endurance activity), 5 days a week. Other than that I'm pretty sedentary but I now eat 2,000 cals a day & am maintaining 103lbs with muscle. In my experience, reverse dieting works.


    a lb of muscle only burns an additional 6-10 calories,fat burns about 2-4 calories. which is not much,if you lost because of an increase you were still in a deficit(which is needed to lose weight) even if it was a small one.yes your body burns calories to support your body,.that is what your BMR is( the amount of calories your body needs/burns to function and do all those things).

    The only other way to lose fat is to eat at maintenance and lift weights/do resistance training (whats called a recomp),you can build some muscle that way too. oTEF isnt as big of a calorie burner as you may think either,it still comes down to CICO

    eating more calories than your TDEE results in weight gain and that means fat too. its simple science. it works that way for everyone.to increase TDEE you increase your activity which is why your TDEE can vary from day to day. no one says eat low calorie and run yourself to death. I would say that if you are eating 2000 calories and maintaining then that is where your maintenance(TDEE) is at. if you eat over that you will gain weight.
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