You are Not Fat (and Why This *kitten* Really Needs to Stop)
Lucas2013
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I hear it all the time: I'm fat, I'm skinny, I'm ugly. More often than not, when we are describing ourselves, we use descriptive adjectives to form a sense of identity. Someone who has a lot of money, for instance, could say that I'm rich, or someone that has next to nothing could say that I'm poor. But that does not define the person. Are they poor at family relationships, a poor communicator, a poor father or mother? Without context, the word poor means next to nothing.
So I want people to remember that unless you died and were reincarnated as a fat cell, you are not fat. You have fat. But guess what? So does every living being on the planet. Some have more than others. But fat does not define you as a person. You are a unique and creative individual that is unlike anyone else in the world. No matter what, no one will be exactly like you, and you should take pride in this fact.
So please do yourselves all a favor, especially women, and stop defining yourselves according to numbers and scales. You are more than a number. You are 37.2 trillion cells of functioning consciousness operating in a vessel called a body, and damn proud of it.
So I want people to remember that unless you died and were reincarnated as a fat cell, you are not fat. You have fat. But guess what? So does every living being on the planet. Some have more than others. But fat does not define you as a person. You are a unique and creative individual that is unlike anyone else in the world. No matter what, no one will be exactly like you, and you should take pride in this fact.
So please do yourselves all a favor, especially women, and stop defining yourselves according to numbers and scales. You are more than a number. You are 37.2 trillion cells of functioning consciousness operating in a vessel called a body, and damn proud of it.
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While generally I agree, the world also needs to stop prioritizing female beauty and appearance and stop sending messages about weight and worth6
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It bugs me when i call myself fat and someone corrects me. This is a huge issue between my mom and me.
For me, its a part of moving forward to become healthy. Knowing what i need to work on, for emotional or physical health, and stating the fact helps keep me focused.
I am fat. I want to change that.
To correct me on a problem i am trying to fix, it messes with my way of thinking. 5'3" 215 pounds and a small frame is not healthy. Please dont belittle my struggle, my goals, or my sucess by correcting me simply because you do not agree with the phrase i used.18 -
So when I say "I have fat bits" is that OK?
Im not saying I'm fat. I just have bits that have more fat than I'd like. Which is true.
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Why especially women? Are men not susceptible to body image issues, social rejection, or pressure to look like hugh jackman?
Society as a whole is pretty shallow regardless of your gender, and we all need to love our selves in spite of it. Not everyone gets the privilege of having a nice face and that is gender neutral.
Weight is a little different. We can love ourselves no matter our weight but we all have the power to change it if it makes us uncomfortable.10 -
I'm not feeling like a ray of sunshine today. But sure. Maybe I am not one giant fat cell, but I have fat.2
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I am the culmination of my life experiences and how they shaped the way I treat myself and others. Being fat and being treated like a fat girl was a significant part of what shaped me to change. Don't very much care what I'm called, fat, ugly, fit or pretty. What matters is my ability to change to suit me. Words like fat are just adjectives, rewrite the sentence.0
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I agree that fat is not who we are anymore than our height or hair color but I do think being overweight does impact and define our lives a good deal. In that sense someone saying they are fat can be descriptive of their experience not a put down.
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So how should I describe my body size? Do you prefer obese?3
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This is a fitness site, we talk about being fat, weak, too thin, strong af, new PRs etc. It's what this site is intended for. If we talked about being fat on LinkedIn I can understand the problem.8
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So the whole argument here is how we use the terms in context? Seems kind of silly and comes down to semantics. If someone says they are fat, they don't mean they literally are a single fat cell. Good grief. They are referring to their appearance. We don't need to be so precise in our use of the words.3
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I was 14.3% fat yesterday. I know that because I had a hydrostatic test yesterday. Today, I'm a little bit more fat.
What's so judgemental about synonyms of triglycerides that you want to banish the word from general usage?
OP, I fear that we, as a dimorphic species, will ever continue to notice and comment upon features of dimorphism.6 -
"Fat" in the English language means a particular type of substance on our body, a macronutrient that we consume, AND also is an adjective meaning "weighs more than is ideal to a certain (subjective) extent." Thus, it's not wrong to say "I am fat." Is it useful? Depends on the person -- for me it was kind of useful, part of reclaiming it and facing/accepting my body and moving on to what is productive. I also think it's a bit of a defense mechanism (saying "I'm fat" before anyone else can decide I might not be aware enough and correct me), but that also was something I had to work through. I never went around going on and on about being fat to people (and don't now when what I would mean is "my body is not as I would like it" and thus I'd consider it obnoxious), but that wasn't because I wasn't fat (I was), but because no one else wants to hear you going on about your own body (vs. just saying "yeah, I know I'm fat but" or whatever) and it's not a productive state of mind to encourage.
Anyway, I do appreciate your POV, OP, and think that's one positive way to think of it, but this is mine.
Re newmeadow's comment -- that would frustrate me too, as my intent would always be to acknowledge and move on, and the person would seem to read it as me needing to be made to feel better (which I didn't) or wanting to be corrected about things I knew were true. I think it grows out of junior high or high school when some WOULD say "I'm so fat" or "I'm so ugly" so others would say "no, you are perfect," but when you wouldn't have done that then and are way past thinking anyone would (i.e., a grown up), it's annoying. Or at least that's the context in which I relate to the comment.3 -
DezYaoified wrote: »It bugs me when i call myself fat and someone corrects me. This is a huge issue between my mom and me.
For me, its a part of moving forward to become healthy. Knowing what i need to work on, for emotional or physical health, and stating the fact helps keep me focused.
I am fat. I want to change that.
To correct me on a problem i am trying to fix, it messes with my way of thinking. 5'3" 215 pounds and a small frame is not healthy. Please dont belittle my struggle, my goals, or my sucess by correcting me simply because you do not agree with the phrase i used.
See bolded bits above.
I am fat. I know I am fat. That's why I'm on MFP.
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I think you're trying to be kind, so I will be kind in return.
I am fat. I've been fat a so long, in fact, that it's had a significant impact on my socialization and identity. I've worked really hard to build a connection between how I see myself and how others see me and not to let other people's discomfort effect how I live my life. And I'm good with myself--my fat self, even as I make changes to my body.
And for someone to tell me that I'm not who I am erases my lived experience as a fat person. I wish you wouldn't do that please, even if you're trying to be nice. I've worked hard on being able to call myself fat; to fully be who I am without denial or shame. You don't have to comfortable with the word "fat" but please recognize that there are people who are and have found extreme liberation in it.7 -
Um no. I am fat. I am depressed. I am ADHD. I am all these things. I hope to one day be skinny but for now I'm a fat tub of lard.2
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Fat is the opposite of thin. It has multiple meanings. People do not 'have' thin; they are thin. Everyone has a certain amount of fat. But some of us are fat. Think about it this way. Would you tell someone below average that they weren't short? That they 'had' short? Can you have 'tall'? If I'm not fat, then I'm obese (and getting smaller). Frankly, I prefer fat.7
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JerSchmare wrote: »
You have fat, you are not fat itself. Fat is a thing. You have other things, like a heart, lungs, and hair. People don't go around calling you lungs or heart. It's silly. Maybe you're overweight and as a result, have some fat on your body, but you are not fat.
Trust me, I'm fat. Obese actually.
I'm also smart, witty, kind, generous but people don't have issues if I identify myself with one of those words. It's just a word and it does not bother me to describe myself accurately. I'm sorry it bothers you (and others).
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It's more when people are trying to compliment me that I end up thinking "Was I really that big?"
I knew I needed to lose some weight, and more importantly I needed to improve my fitness. But when people are trying to encourage me I get comments like "You've lost loooads of weight?" Or "You're half the person". Well I'm not half the person I've lost just under 10% of my overall original weight, not 50%. I have lost a decent amount of weight but I wouldn't call it loooaads. I really wasn't THAT big before.
People make it sound like I used to be grossly obese before. Which I wasn't. I think people need to tone it down a little when they try to compliment because I'm really not sure that being so derogative about how someone used to look is helpful. What happens if something happens in my life and I end up at my old weight again? After all, last time it was as a result of surgery. My self esteem is going to be worst than it was last time I was that size.
It just shows that it is still Internationally agreed on the subliminal level that thin is beautiful and plump is ugly. Rather than the difference between being healthy and unhealthy.
My favourite compliment came today because it had no references to my weight at all. I was told "I don't know what you've done different, but you look lovely, almost radiant." Now that was a compliment!2 -
Being honest, this post just comes off as more PC BS. I'm sure no one here thinks they are literally just fat and nothing else. I'm betting most of us have jobs, hobbies etc.... I'm an archer, I'm a guitarist, I'm a mountain biker, I'm a brother, cousin etc.... I'm also fat, over weight, obese.
Saying I'm not fat is lying to myself and lying to myself or being lied to about it will just result in me being a fat person until I die.10 -
mandy_godfree wrote: »It's more when people are trying to compliment me that I end up thinking "Was I really that big?"
I knew I needed to lose some weight, and more importantly I needed to improve my fitness. But when people are trying to encourage me I get comments like "You've lost loooads of weight?" Or "You're half the person". Well I'm not half the person I've lost just under 10% of my overall original weight, not 50%. I have lost a decent amount of weight but I wouldn't call it loooaads. I really wasn't THAT big before.
Someone said to me "you've lost 300 lbs!" and I think realized immediately it was a dumb thing to say and felt awkward so I slipped into "smooth over awkward moment" mode but actually thought it was funny. I did lose loooads of weight, but my highest was maybe 220, so no, I didn't lose near 300. (I assume she was using 300 to mean "lots," but still.)0 -
JerSchmare wrote: »MizMimi111 wrote: »DezYaoified wrote: »It bugs me when i call myself fat and someone corrects me. This is a huge issue between my mom and me.
For me, its a part of moving forward to become healthy. Knowing what i need to work on, for emotional or physical health, and stating the fact helps keep me focused.
I am fat. I want to change that.
To correct me on a problem i am trying to fix, it messes with my way of thinking. 5'3" 215 pounds and a small frame is not healthy. Please dont belittle my struggle, my goals, or my sucess by correcting me simply because you do not agree with the phrase i used.
See bolded bits above.
I am fat. I know I am fat. That's why I'm on MFP.
You have fat, you are not fat itself. Fat is a thing. You have other things, like a heart, lungs, and hair. People don't go around calling you lungs or heart. It's silly. Maybe you're overweight and as a result, have some fat on your body, but you are not fat.
At this point you're just picking one definition of fat and stubbornly using it out of context. Do you prefer the word "obese"? They're often used interchangeably and it's a lot more difficult to play semantics with that one. SMH10 -
This is like splitting the difference between soda and pop. We can call it as many different names as we like but its still the same thing.
Acknowledging im fat was a huge step to start making a change.2 -
It's only when I gained weight I realized how other people tried to push their insecurities about weight on me. Like they felt ugly or unattractive if they gained 10lbs so I should feel like haunting the nearest bell tower and hiding my shameful fat away since I've gained over 60lbs. Like no, just no. I refuse to internalize other people's definition of fat as a negative judgement on a one's character and self esteem.6
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@rednote49 Exactly! And thanks for the laugh!0
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I can understand the sentiment of avoiding defining yourself only by one facet: being fat. But I feel it is important to acknowledge it especially if you want to change. I am a lot of other things besides fat, but ignoring how large I had gotten is how I got to this point in the first place. I am fat, but I am also smart, funny, pretty, nerdy, wife, doctor, sister, daughter, aunt, shy, introverted...the list goes on and on. But until I confronted the truth about myself, and recognized that it was not how I wanted to live my life anymore, I wasn't ready to change.2
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So is this about semantics? Because otherwise, are you saying we should never describe ourselves with any adjectives because one word can't define us? I'm all for promoting self-esteem, but being honest with yourself about all the myriad qualities you possess and how those qualities affect your life is kind of part of becoming a whole person, a functioning adult. It's important for me to acknowledge I'm overweight so I can take action to become a healthy weight. It's important for me to acknowledge I'm an introvert so I can decide to get out into the world and live my life. It's important for me to acknowledge I'm smart, so I can pat myself on the back for that. Suggesting it's harmful to use those words just gives those words more power than they deserve.
It's not healthy to refuse to name the things about you that you don't like. You have to put on your big girl pants, name and face your strengths AND your weaknesses, acknowledge that you still are awesome despite your weaknesses, and then figure out how to use your strengths to shore up your weaknesses. I say I'm a lazy *kitten* all the time, not because I think it defines me and makes me worthless, but because saying it out loud reminds me to fight the urge to be lazy and to get stuff done instead.
Deciding to never describe yourself with words kind of seems like an existential nightmare to me.6 -
Actually-fat is an adjective, just like happy, sad, tall, short, thick, thin, etc. and one can indeed be fat (in the same way they can be happy, sad, etc.). The trouble is not in calling oneself fat (which is correct use of the language), It is in assuming that being fat somehow negates their value and worth as a person. Assigning a moral value to the word fat is what causes the issue. Being fat means you have excess fat. The end.2
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Are you attempting to re-state "Love the sinner, hate the sin"?
If there is a quality that you don't like - change the behavior associated with this. Moralizing over a word is foolish. Sticking your head in the sand and not acknowledging that you can change is equally foolish.3 -
No, i am fat. I've spent 6 years assuring myself that im not, but it's true, and i need to lose it. My self-esteem is good, i dont put myself down, but the extra weight isnt doing me any favors, and neither is assuring myself that "fat isnt bad for me".
And "fat" doesnt mean "ugly".2
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