Hypothyroidism and calculating Basal Metabolic Rate

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  • DoxiePupMom
    DoxiePupMom Posts: 7 Member
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    I would also reccomend evaluating "normal" levels. The "normal" range might not be an indicator of nromal for you. I went years without undiagnosed Hypo becuase I was in the "normal" range. Little did I know that I had thyroid nodules that turned into thyroid cancer. Had I been on treatment the medication would of supressed the growth of these tumors. Look at all the levels together and not just the T3. I was around a 3 but should of been closer to a 1 or right under. I am now at a supressed dosage due to the cancer.

    I no longer have my thyroid and rely soly of medicaion for these hormones. This is another challege in itself in loosing weight. What works for many on paper does not work for me when it comes to weight loss.

    It's also a good idea to have your calcium and vitamin D levels checked as well.
  • Adirafox
    Adirafox Posts: 107 Member
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    This is interesting! I'm also hypo, with Hashimoto's.....diagnosed 8 years ago after the birth of my first child. I had my second kiddo about a year ago and my thyroid levels have fluctuated wildly. I was hyper for a while, which was actually nice....I lost a lot of weight, felt good, etc, Recently, they dropped pretty low so my ob/gyn upped my levothyroxin, and I'm feeling better.

    After reading this, I wonder if this is part of the reason my weight loss has stalled. I wonder if taking my meds at night might help, and I wonder if I need an even higher dosage than I am on now.
  • Espressocycle
    Espressocycle Posts: 2,245 Member
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    I'm on cytomel and levo, my TSH is 2.8, and I have not had any trouble losing weight. Well, I mean, not if I actually stay under calorie goal. So I have to say, you might just be overestimating activity or underestimating the calories of all that healthful food you eat.
  • ElizabethKalmbach
    ElizabethKalmbach Posts: 1,416 Member
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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16969140

    I have had hashimotos for years and never had trouble losing weight as long as my thyroid numbers were normal... Then all of a sudden I did. 40% of hypothyroid people show some sign of B12 deficiency. Get your bloods checked.

    I am on my third week of B12 shots after finding out I had B12 deficiency anemia. After 6 MONTHS of working out and eating right and never losing a pound, I have lost 2-4 lbs this week and I feel. so. much. better. (Average weight 154. Weight this week averages 150. Weight last week 155-157.)

    *ed to add: I'm not saying that every hypothyroid person is going to have low b12, but it's something to watch for. Don't make the mistake I did and blame your thyroid for EVERYTHING. Sometimes just your thyroid problem is a symptom of a bigger issue (autoimmune disease) that can cause other systems to go out of whack. My iron and potassium were also extremely low. I am supplementing all of that now.
  • estherlion
    estherlion Posts: 86 Member
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    You may consider getting your RMR tested. It is really easy. It's a breathing test in a machine and gives you YOUR RMR. I just got tested and was shocked at how low mine was (I have PCOS). I went to a doctor's office that specializes in weightloss for this but have heard some gyms do this test for a reasonable price. My RMR was 1250, and he put me on a 1150 calorie diet. I was really down about it, but now realize it is what it is, and I just cannot eat as many calories as "normal" women my size. I am 5'4 and 150 lbs. I have lost 9 lbs averaging 1 lb per week. I hope it goes well for you!
  • Izablota
    Izablota Posts: 6 Member
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    I didn't see it mentioned but I addition to an empty stomach make sure you keep your medication cool. Thyroid medication is perticularly sensitive to temprature, my mom was keeping hers above the stove.
  • jendive
    jendive Posts: 2 Member
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    The advantage of taking levo at night is that morning coffee also does not interfere with absorption...
  • ashlynreiser
    ashlynreiser Posts: 1 Member
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    I know I'm a little late to comment, but I just wanted to share my own experience. I'm 21 and also have Hashimoto's. When I first started taking Synthroid I felt better for the first 3 months or so. After that I felt tired all the time, cold, etc. (you know the symptoms). I had my labs done and everything was normal; I was so tired I even got tested for mono! About 2 months ago I decided to switch doctors. I found a doctor specializing in hormone manipulation and asked him his opinion about all of this. He immediately switched me to Armour Thyroid and said that Synthroid and other drugs of its kind improve the condition on lab work but not in the body. The reason he likes Armour is because it promotes the conversion of T3 and T4. Granted, this is only one doctor's opinion, but I've experienced the benefits of Armour for myself. Since starting I've been feeling much better. I hope you get this worked out soon as nothing is more frustrating than knowing you're giving your best effort and seeing little in return.
  • tiacari
    tiacari Posts: 4 Member
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    I am not sure if anyone will even read this but here goes my question.

    I do not have my thyroid gland and I take synthroid every day. I workout for about an hour every day doing t25 and hip hop abs. I recently had my basal metabolic rate checked and it was at 1290. I thought that was kind of low but now looking through these posts I see it's kind of normal. I am confused when it comes to eating calories and what I should do what the calories that I burn during exercise. My question was do I eat 1290 everyday minus the calories I burn (leaving me with a net caloric intake less than 1100) or do I eat 1290 everyday plus the calories I burned exercising, bringing me back down to 1290 net at the end of the day? All these numbers are confusing to me.

    I have successfully lost 60 pounds but would like to lose another 25. I am frustrated and I've now plateaued.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
  • Allegi32
    Allegi32 Posts: 302 Member
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    I am not sure if anyone will even read this but here goes my question.

    I do not have my thyroid gland and I take synthroid every day. I workout for about an hour every day doing t25 and hip hop abs. I recently had my basal metabolic rate checked and it was at 1290. I thought that was kind of low but now looking through these posts I see it's kind of normal. I am confused when it comes to eating calories and what I should do what the calories that I burn during exercise. My question was do I eat 1290 everyday minus the calories I burn (leaving me with a net caloric intake less than 1100) or do I eat 1290 everyday plus the calories I burned exercising, bringing me back down to 1290 net at the end of the day? All these numbers are confusing to me.

    I have successfully lost 60 pounds but would like to lose another 25. I am frustrated and I've now plateaued.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Hi! :)

    Have you had your levels checked recently? Sometimes losing weight can throw everything off.

    You don't want to eat 1290. That's the number of calories your body burns just to stay alive everyday. If you woke up, stayed in bed, stayed there all day and fell asleep without doing anything. Your daily activity (going to work, grocery shopping, cleaning, just basic life) adds calories to that number. So if you're getting out of bed, you're actually dipping into the calories your body needs just to survive, and that's not healthy.

    MFP should calculate the right number for you. They will calculate the net number of calories you need. For me, it's 1420 (if I remember correctly, lol). My daily activity is figured into that already. But if I exercise, I need to eat more. So on days I exercise, I eat back SOME of my calories (only because calories burned is not an exact science). I always need to net 1420. So if I eat 1420 but then go run and burn 300 calories, I eat back maybe 150-200 of those. But on days I don't exercise, I eat 1420.

    Does that make sense or am I just being more confusing? LOL
  • ljminto
    ljminto Posts: 52
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    so with you on this one!! i suffer/ed from this exact problem!
  • ChancePhoenix
    ChancePhoenix Posts: 1 Member
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    I don't know the answer, but I can tell you that I went to a local health clinic and got my resting metabolic rate tested for only about $40. I'll bet if you do some research, you could probably find a place within driving distance that can test it for you. In case you're nervous about the procedure, they basically just have you plug your nose and breath in and out through a plastic tube into a machine for 10 minutes, and measure how much oxygen you consume. They use that to calculate your resting metabolic rate, which has really helped me figure out how much I should be eating. My resting rate is about 200 calories per day lower than normal. Since I adjusted my food intake based on this, I've lost about 10 pounds in 3 weeks (I also stepped up my exercise).

    Good luck!
  • ljminto
    ljminto Posts: 52
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    my doctor said for me to take my synthroid first thing in the am as well..no food for an hour after..
  • ljminto
    ljminto Posts: 52
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    I didn't ask the question, but that info helped ME out a lot! Thanks!!
  • tiacari
    tiacari Posts: 4 Member
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    Thank you for the responses. I did have MFP set and I have been eating 1500 based on it, and have gained weight. So I am, I think, going to reduce to 1300 and net 1300. So that makes sense.
    I do take synthroid in the morning, learned that the hard way!
    Thanks for all the great advice!
  • MysticHorizon
    MysticHorizon Posts: 14 Member
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    Please I warn all of you, do NOT take Armour!!!
    I tried it a year ago and it almost took my life on numerous occasions! I here the same lies about Armour being a better choice than Levothyroxine, but please don't believe it. Armour made my thyroid go nuts. It was dangerously low, then dangerously high, then ended up with Hashimotos. It made me suicidal, constant severe panic attacks, insomnia, and depression. I had to stop working. I urge all of you to try something else other than Armour. It can kill you.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,413 Member
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    I'd also add, in case anyone new us reading this zombie thread, that there's quite a lot of misinformation spread through the earlier posts (plus a little accurate info). There are newer threads about hypothyroidism that deliver a higher fraction of accurate info.
  • lovinglyinsane
    lovinglyinsane Posts: 1 Member
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    The main problem with natural thyroid supplements is that they don't absorb into the body as evenly and steadily as synthetic versions do- maybe with a mild case of hypo/hyperthyroidism this isn't an issue, but with more serious cases a medication with steady absorption rates is absolutely needed.

    Please, if you have a thyroid issue like I do, ask your doctor to refer you to an endocrinologist, even if you feel like you're doing ok. A specialist can order more advanced testing and treat the condition much more effectively.
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,108 Member
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    The answer will vary from person to person. For me, even with my hashimotos under control, I've found my TDEE to be between 100-200 calories less than what online calculators give me. This calculation came through a lot of trial and error adjusting my calories over time.

    Yes I burn less than other my size, age, and activity level do on average but it is not by an extreme amount. If you aren't being treated it is probably a more substantial difference