How long should you stay in a calorie deficit?
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WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »
Yeah, seriously. There is nothing in this world that could convince me to take a week long break from my -1000 deficit. There's just no way I'd do it when my current diet and exercise regime finally works and makes me feel awesome mentally and physically.
Why are you trying to lose 2 lbs per week? that is a really high deficit. Do you have 50+lbs to lose?
Well I DID have about 40lbs to lose, but I'm down from 172.5 in March (starting weight) and now at 149. I aimed for 2lbs because I knew I'd be exercising at least 3 hours per day and that the deficit would be easy to maintain. Since I take weekends off the gym, I don't try to stay under 1200 and my weekly summaries shows that i maintain about -825 to -925 when it's all averaged out.
Since I feel great and am energetic, I see no reason to lower my deficit. I average about +1,000 to +1500 exercise calories, so I'm actually eating more than I ever have in my life. I used to really undereat because of my job and single parenting. I just didn't realize it until recently. My goal weight of 134lbs is actually about 15lbs heavier than my average adult weight. But I realize now I was underweight.
Prior to March, I was only eating one large meal per day, but had gained all of that weight in about 1 1/2 years because I was almost totally sedentary from 2 serious injuries after having had a very strenuous and active job and life prior to that. I was also always thin and muscular up until my injuries and resulting sedentary period.
So my appetite was never very large and I never had a real addiction/issue with food. I just didn't pay enough attention/understand that the forced sedentary life would mean I needed to really watch what I ate, drank, and did. So I tanked out.
Now that my injuries are good enough to be active and exercise again...just not eating too much has been easy. I see no reason to drag it out and I want to get back to maintenance because I want my old muscles back and can't wait to build a little mass again. I can't stand the feeling of being fat because I feel like I'm in someone else's body. It's awful and I'd like to feel like myself again as quickly as possible.
but the bigger the deficit is with so little weight left to lose, then you are risking lean mass and muscle.thats why you need to lower the amount of weight you are losing because your body doesnt have the stores it did before to fuel a higher loss. once you lose muscle/lean mass its very hard to get it back. also you have a weight range and not just a number. weight fluctuates.
Yes I know all of this and we've discussed it here before. That's why I do tons of strength training and a small amount of cardio, supplement with BCAAS, and gag down an occasional protein shake if necessary. Since I tend to be naturally a more athletic build, I don't think building mass will be that hard with how much strength training I'm doing in the meantime to maintain existing muscle, since previously my muscle was accidental having never worked out prior to March.
And I'm definitely not set on 134lbs. I may need it to be higher or lower and won't know until I get there. I don't care what I actually "weigh" as a goal. I never owned a scale until recently. Basically, once I can fit into my old Size 3/5 clothes and look lean/fit....thats my goal. Whether it's 120 or 140 doesn't matter much to me. Since I'm fitting Size 8 and 7 at 149lbs now...134 may prove unnecessary. I just cannot tolerate the feeling of "jiggle" on my body because I'm just not used to it.
And having much larger breasts was horrible, too. Because they felt alien, too. I recently had them suddenly drop a full cup to my normal "B" and I'm thrilled. I feel like my body will be mine again soon. If I start losing muscle, I'll adjust my deficit. But I haven't seen signs so far.
you dont always see signs of muscle loss, the only true way to know is by getting a dexa scan or something like that that can gauge how much fat,lean mass,muscle,skeletal tissue you have and get a before and after. you wont know if you are losing muscle. if you are jiggly now its possible that could be the reason(aka skinny fat). as for gaining muscle it is harder for women to gain (no matter what you are doing now). even in a surplus its hard to gain mass/muscle. oh and most women even if they are competition lean have parts that jiggle or bulge its normal to a degree.3 -
Yes, I'm not saying jiggle is unusual or even an indicator of "fat. That's why I was trying to post a photo circa 2011 of my normal weight/figure. I'm not curvy at all and have a very athletic build normally. Small chest, barely a waist, no hips, small butt, thin legs. So feeling "jiggle" or movement of flesh *for me personally* when I walk hard or something feels really strange and even if its slight....I notice.
If I was naturally curvy, I'd probably be used to breasts lightly bouncing or butts swaying slightly. But it all feels disgusting to me. I'm glad most of it is gone. I intend to swipe all remnants of those 3 years from my life and never allow it again.0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »
Yeah, seriously. There is nothing in this world that could convince me to take a week long break from my -1000 deficit. There's just no way I'd do it when my current diet and exercise regime finally works and makes me feel awesome mentally and physically.
Why are you trying to lose 2 lbs per week? that is a really high deficit. Do you have 50+lbs to lose?
Well I DID have about 40lbs to lose, but I'm down from 172.5 in March (starting weight) and now at 149. I aimed for 2lbs because I knew I'd be exercising at least 3 hours per day and that the deficit would be easy to maintain. Since I take weekends off the gym, I don't try to stay under 1200 and my weekly summaries shows that i maintain about -825 to -925 when it's all averaged out.
Since I feel great and am energetic, I see no reason to lower my deficit. I average about +1,000 to +1500 exercise calories, so I'm actually eating more than I ever have in my life. I used to really undereat because of my job and single parenting. I just didn't realize it until recently. My goal weight of 134lbs is actually about 15lbs heavier than my average adult weight. But I realize now I was underweight.
Prior to March, I was only eating one large meal per day, but had gained all of that weight in about 1 1/2 years because I was almost totally sedentary from 2 serious injuries after having had a very strenuous and active job and life prior to that. I was also always thin and muscular up until my injuries and resulting sedentary period.
So my appetite was never very large and I never had a real addiction/issue with food. I just didn't pay enough attention/understand that the forced sedentary life would mean I needed to really watch what I ate, drank, and did. So I tanked out.
Now that my injuries are good enough to be active and exercise again...just not eating too much has been easy. I see no reason to drag it out and I want to get back to maintenance because I want my old muscles back and can't wait to build a little mass again. I can't stand the feeling of being fat because I feel like I'm in someone else's body. It's awful and I'd like to feel like myself again as quickly as possible.
but the bigger the deficit is with so little weight left to lose, then you are risking lean mass and muscle.thats why you need to lower the amount of weight you are losing because your body doesnt have the stores it did before to fuel a higher loss. once you lose muscle/lean mass its very hard to get it back. also you have a weight range and not just a number. weight fluctuates.
Yes I know all of this and we've discussed it here before. That's why I do tons of strength training and a small amount of cardio, supplement with BCAAS, and gag down an occasional protein shake if necessary. Since I tend to be naturally a more athletic build, I don't think building mass will be that hard with how much strength training I'm doing in the meantime to maintain existing muscle, since previously my muscle was accidental having never worked out prior to March.
And I'm definitely not set on 134lbs. I may need it to be higher or lower and won't know until I get there. I don't care what I actually "weigh" as a goal. I never owned a scale until recently. Basically, once I can fit into my old Size 3/5 clothes and look lean/fit....thats my goal. Whether it's 120 or 140 doesn't matter much to me. Since I'm fitting Size 8 and 7 at 149lbs now...134 may prove unnecessary. I just cannot tolerate the feeling of "jiggle" on my body because I'm just not used to it.
And having much larger breasts was horrible, too. Because they felt alien, too. I recently had them suddenly drop a full cup to my normal "B" and I'm thrilled. I feel like my body will be mine again soon. If I start losing muscle, I'll adjust my deficit. But I haven't seen signs so far.
you dont always see signs of muscle loss, the only true way to know is by getting a dexa scan or something like that that can gauge how much fat,lean mass,muscle,skeletal tissue you have and get a before and after. you wont know if you are losing muscle. if you are jiggly now its possible that could be the reason(aka skinny fat). as for gaining muscle it is harder for women to gain (no matter what you are doing now). even in a surplus its hard to gain mass/muscle. oh and most women even if they are competition lean have parts that jiggle or bulge its normal to a degree.
You are correct. This is a risky strategy that seems to be born of impatience. One still loses muscle mass in a deficit even with lots of weight training. Based on the post I see here though, it seems this person may need to learn this the hard way. But a 2 lb per week deficit with about 15 lbs to go is not a wise approach.6 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »
Yeah, seriously. There is nothing in this world that could convince me to take a week long break from my -1000 deficit. There's just no way I'd do it when my current diet and exercise regime finally works and makes me feel awesome mentally and physically.
Why are you trying to lose 2 lbs per week? that is a really high deficit. Do you have 50+lbs to lose?
Well I DID have about 40lbs to lose, but I'm down from 172.5 in March (starting weight) and now at 149. I aimed for 2lbs because I knew I'd be exercising at least 3 hours per day and that the deficit would be easy to maintain. Since I take weekends off the gym, I don't try to stay under 1200 and my weekly summaries shows that i maintain about -825 to -925 when it's all averaged out.
Since I feel great and am energetic, I see no reason to lower my deficit. I average about +1,000 to +1500 exercise calories, so I'm actually eating more than I ever have in my life. I used to really undereat because of my job and single parenting. I just didn't realize it until recently. My goal weight of 134lbs is actually about 15lbs heavier than my average adult weight. But I realize now I was underweight.
Prior to March, I was only eating one large meal per day, but had gained all of that weight in about 1 1/2 years because I was almost totally sedentary from 2 serious injuries after having had a very strenuous and active job and life prior to that. I was also always thin and muscular up until my injuries and resulting sedentary period.
So my appetite was never very large and I never had a real addiction/issue with food. I just didn't pay enough attention/understand that the forced sedentary life would mean I needed to really watch what I ate, drank, and did. So I tanked out.
Now that my injuries are good enough to be active and exercise again...just not eating too much has been easy. I see no reason to drag it out and I want to get back to maintenance because I want my old muscles back and can't wait to build a little mass again. I can't stand the feeling of being fat because I feel like I'm in someone else's body. It's awful and I'd like to feel like myself again as quickly as possible.
but the bigger the deficit is with so little weight left to lose, then you are risking lean mass and muscle.thats why you need to lower the amount of weight you are losing because your body doesnt have the stores it did before to fuel a higher loss. once you lose muscle/lean mass its very hard to get it back. also you have a weight range and not just a number. weight fluctuates.
Yes I know all of this and we've discussed it here before. That's why I do tons of strength training and a small amount of cardio, supplement with BCAAS, and gag down an occasional protein shake if necessary. Since I tend to be naturally a more athletic build, I don't think building mass will be that hard with how much strength training I'm doing in the meantime to maintain existing muscle, since previously my muscle was accidental having never worked out prior to March.
And I'm definitely not set on 134lbs. I may need it to be higher or lower and won't know until I get there. I don't care what I actually "weigh" as a goal. I never owned a scale until recently. Basically, once I can fit into my old Size 3/5 clothes and look lean/fit....thats my goal. Whether it's 120 or 140 doesn't matter much to me. Since I'm fitting Size 8 and 7 at 149lbs now...134 may prove unnecessary. I just cannot tolerate the feeling of "jiggle" on my body because I'm just not used to it.
And having much larger breasts was horrible, too. Because they felt alien, too. I recently had them suddenly drop a full cup to my normal "B" and I'm thrilled. I feel like my body will be mine again soon. If I start losing muscle, I'll adjust my deficit. But I haven't seen signs so far.
you dont always see signs of muscle loss, the only true way to know is by getting a dexa scan or something like that that can gauge how much fat,lean mass,muscle,skeletal tissue you have and get a before and after. you wont know if you are losing muscle. if you are jiggly now its possible that could be the reason(aka skinny fat). as for gaining muscle it is harder for women to gain (no matter what you are doing now). even in a surplus its hard to gain mass/muscle. oh and most women even if they are competition lean have parts that jiggle or bulge its normal to a degree.
You are correct. This is a risky strategy that seems to be born of impatience. One still loses muscle mass in a deficit even with lots of weight training. Based on the post I see here though, it seems this person may need to learn this the hard way. But a 2 lb per week deficit with about 15 lbs to go is not a wise approach.
Of course I'm impatient. I'm miserable in a Body that has never and never will be mine. And I've made it clear thaat I understand that larger deficit means risking more muscle. So I'm not sure why you're speaking as if you cannot comprehend my responses.
One thing I do know is my body. And it's naturally "buff" without any intentional execise. Because I've never lifted a weight, done a squat, or even jogged until March. Ok...I've still never jogged, actually. I understand I will lose some muscle.
However, I can visibly see asnd feel the larger and stronger muscles I've formed despite being in deficit. My Capri pants no longer fit over my calf muscles without help and my lats are visibly larger now. And my strength is solid since I started at maybe 50lbs on abductor machines and such. Now I'm at 130lbs easily (for example).
Considering I'm at 149lbs and only 10 to 15 pounds from my goal weight range. I doubt all of the muscle is going to magically melt off now.
There will be compromises I'll have to decide on once I'm very slim as far as losing muscle or gaining muscle...but I'm happy with the strength I've gained losing the first 22lbs and I doubt that will change losing the last 10. Everyone's body IS different...so it's ridiculous for you to speak to me the way you did as if you know my body better than I do. I put in a lot of hard work based on both science and my body and there's nothing helpful nor informative in your post. I look and feel fantastic now and I'm sorry that you're hoping that will change 10 lbs from now.
Despite your nasty attitude I will enjoy and see results from my Monday regime starting with
9:15am - Pilates (1 hour)
10:30am - Weight Room (1 1/2 hours)
12:00pm - Les Mills BodyPump (1 hour)
1:15pm - Les Mills BodyFlow (1 hour)
2:30pm - Dry Sauna (30 minutes)
3:00pm - Swim Laps (30 minutes)
Tuesday is even better! As you can see...I spend 5 hours on strength training and thats plenty to maintain existing muscle as well as gain a bit. And I have to eat way more than I want or need because I have so many exercise calories. There won't be a "hard way" or lesson because I'm doing it right, feel great, and getting results. If I lose a little muscle...so what? I'll get it back in as matter of weeks because I'm highly disciplined and always will be. I'm sorry that bothers you for some bizarre reason...but if you get your jollies hoping for someone to fail....thats your issue. Not mine.
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@WendyLeigh1119 I'm an incredibly impatient person, I mean really bad! It took me 2 years to lose the 33lbs i needed to, losing weight gave me no choice but to work on my patience problems.
I should add, i had months here and there of eating at maintenance and lax logging, but i got there in the end without undereating or killing myself in the gym.4 -
Christine_72 wrote: »@WendyLeigh1119 I'm an incredibly impatient person, I mean really bad! It took me 2 years to lose the 33lbs i needed to, losing weight gave me no choice but to work on my patience problems.
I should add, i had months here and there of eating at maintenance and lax logging, but i got there in the end without undereating or killing myself in the gym.
That's awesome! Congrats! But I'm eating tons of food (my diary is public) and I absolutely LOVE the Gym. It's my second home now. I didn't like it as much until I started taking tons of different classes, but I dread weekends off. Today was a bit harder with food because no workout calories....but I stayed under 1200 without being hungry and even had brownies and milk for snack.
Thankfully, my significant other is an excellent cook and plans based on my weekends being 1200 and the rest of the week being a free for all because of my exercise calories. If I were doing this alone, I'd probably live on prepared rotisserie chicken, cereal, and cheese like I did before we met because I don't cook at all. He plays competitive volleyball every Thursday night after work (so no dinner fgor my son and I)...so I take my son to Applebees every Thursday, instead.
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You shouldn't be in a calorie deficit for more than 3-4 months at a time. Do a maintenance diet for a few weeks, then you can go back to a calorie deficit.0
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I think I love the exercise so much because I was injured and forced to be sedentary for 2 years and loathed it. Now that I finished my Physical Therapy a few weeks ago, I feel so grateful to get to exercise again that I guess endless gym hours aren't a chore for me like people who weren't injured previously. I couldn't reach above my head or walk a few steps without pain a year ago. So I love every moment of movement now.1
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PowerliftingMom wrote: »You shouldn't be in a calorie deficit for more than 3-4 months at a time. Do a maintenance diet for a few weeks, then you can go back to a calorie deficit.
why shouldnt someone be in a deficit more than 3-4 months?,any info on this?0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »PowerliftingMom wrote: »You shouldn't be in a calorie deficit for more than 3-4 months at a time. Do a maintenance diet for a few weeks, then you can go back to a calorie deficit.
why shouldnt someone be in a deficit more than 3-4 months?,any info on this?
I've actually read a lot about how one should eat at a calorie deficit for 10 to 12 weeks and then eat at maintenance for 2 weeks then repeat until you reach your goal weight. Something about resetting your metabolism..
I was going to eat at maintenance for a week since I wasn't paying attention and under eating which is bad itself but when you have Crohns it's even worse. But decided to just add 200 calories to my allowance everyday and make sure to eat all of my calories regardless if I don't have a appetite.
I don't know what I'm going to do when I do finally have to go on maintenance. I can barely eat the 1330 I'm suppose to. I've never been a big eater and all my weight gain was from having to be completely sedentary due to a heart issue and a Crohns medication change that made me blow up.
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »PowerliftingMom wrote: »You shouldn't be in a calorie deficit for more than 3-4 months at a time. Do a maintenance diet for a few weeks, then you can go back to a calorie deficit.
why shouldnt someone be in a deficit more than 3-4 months?,any info on this?
I've actually read a lot about how one should eat at a calorie deficit for 10 to 12 weeks and then eat at maintenance for 2 weeks then repeat until you reach your goal weight. Something about resetting your metabolism..
I was going to eat at maintenance for a week since I wasn't paying attention and under eating which is bad itself but when you have Crohns it's even worse. But decided to just add 200 calories to my allowance everyday and make sure to eat all of my calories regardless if I don't have a appetite.
I don't know what I'm going to do when I do finally have to go on maintenance. I can barely eat the 1330 I'm suppose to. I've never been a big eater and all my weight gain was from having to be completely sedentary due to a heart issue and a Crohns medication change that made me blow up.
you cant reset your metabolism though. it either works or it doesnt(if it doesnt you're already dead).. now for some if they eat in a deficit say for a period of time and end up with adaptive thermogenesis then sometimes eating more calories or taking a break helps with that.Im sorry you have crohns I know nothing about it really. I have taken breaks from eating in a deficit many times and I dont see where it made a difference in anything. I just came off a winter break in march/april. only real way to boost metabolism is through exercise or building muscle.1 -
WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »
Yeah, seriously. There is nothing in this world that could convince me to take a week long break from my -1000 deficit. There's just no way I'd do it when my current diet and exercise regime finally works and makes me feel awesome mentally and physically.
Why are you trying to lose 2 lbs per week? that is a really high deficit. Do you have 50+lbs to lose?
Well I DID have about 40lbs to lose, but I'm down from 172.5 in March (starting weight) and now at 149. I aimed for 2lbs because I knew I'd be exercising at least 3 hours per day and that the deficit would be easy to maintain. Since I take weekends off the gym, I don't try to stay under 1200 and my weekly summaries shows that i maintain about -825 to -925 when it's all averaged out.
Since I feel great and am energetic, I see no reason to lower my deficit. I average about +1,000 to +1500 exercise calories, so I'm actually eating more than I ever have in my life. I used to really undereat because of my job and single parenting. I just didn't realize it until recently. My goal weight of 134lbs is actually about 15lbs heavier than my average adult weight. But I realize now I was underweight.
Prior to March, I was only eating one large meal per day, but had gained all of that weight in about 1 1/2 years because I was almost totally sedentary from 2 serious injuries after having had a very strenuous and active job and life prior to that. I was also always thin and muscular up until my injuries and resulting sedentary period.
So my appetite was never very large and I never had a real addiction/issue with food. I just didn't pay enough attention/understand that the forced sedentary life would mean I needed to really watch what I ate, drank, and did. So I tanked out.
Now that my injuries are good enough to be active and exercise again...just not eating too much has been easy. I see no reason to drag it out and I want to get back to maintenance because I want my old muscles back and can't wait to build a little mass again. I can't stand the feeling of being fat because I feel like I'm in someone else's body. It's awful and I'd like to feel like myself again as quickly as possible.
but the bigger the deficit is with so little weight left to lose, then you are risking lean mass and muscle.thats why you need to lower the amount of weight you are losing because your body doesnt have the stores it did before to fuel a higher loss. once you lose muscle/lean mass its very hard to get it back. also you have a weight range and not just a number. weight fluctuates.
Yes I know all of this and we've discussed it here before. That's why I do tons of strength training and a small amount of cardio, supplement with BCAAS, and gag down an occasional protein shake if necessary. Since I tend to be naturally a more athletic build, I don't think building mass will be that hard with how much strength training I'm doing in the meantime to maintain existing muscle, since previously my muscle was accidental having never worked out prior to March.
And I'm definitely not set on 134lbs. I may need it to be higher or lower and won't know until I get there. I don't care what I actually "weigh" as a goal. I never owned a scale until recently. Basically, once I can fit into my old Size 3/5 clothes and look lean/fit....thats my goal. Whether it's 120 or 140 doesn't matter much to me. Since I'm fitting Size 8 and 7 at 149lbs now...134 may prove unnecessary. I just cannot tolerate the feeling of "jiggle" on my body because I'm just not used to it.
And having much larger breasts was horrible, too. Because they felt alien, too. I recently had them suddenly drop a full cup to my normal "B" and I'm thrilled. I feel like my body will be mine again soon. If I start losing muscle, I'll adjust my deficit. But I haven't seen signs so far.
you dont always see signs of muscle loss, the only true way to know is by getting a dexa scan or something like that that can gauge how much fat,lean mass,muscle,skeletal tissue you have and get a before and after. you wont know if you are losing muscle. if you are jiggly now its possible that could be the reason(aka skinny fat). as for gaining muscle it is harder for women to gain (no matter what you are doing now). even in a surplus its hard to gain mass/muscle. oh and most women even if they are competition lean have parts that jiggle or bulge its normal to a degree.
You are correct. This is a risky strategy that seems to be born of impatience. One still loses muscle mass in a deficit even with lots of weight training. Based on the post I see here though, it seems this person may need to learn this the hard way. But a 2 lb per week deficit with about 15 lbs to go is not a wise approach.
Of course I'm impatient. I'm miserable in a Body that has never and never will be mine. And I've made it clear thaat I understand that larger deficit means risking more muscle. So I'm not sure why you're speaking as if you cannot comprehend my responses.
One thing I do know is my body. And it's naturally "buff" without any intentional execise. Because I've never lifted a weight, done a squat, or even jogged until March. Ok...I've still never jogged, actually. I understand I will lose some muscle.
However, I can visibly see asnd feel the larger and stronger muscles I've formed despite being in deficit. My Capri pants no longer fit over my calf muscles without help and my lats are visibly larger now. And my strength is solid since I started at maybe 50lbs on abductor machines and such. Now I'm at 130lbs easily (for example).
Considering I'm at 149lbs and only 10 to 15 pounds from my goal weight range. I doubt all of the muscle is going to magically melt off now.
There will be compromises I'll have to decide on once I'm very slim as far as losing muscle or gaining muscle...but I'm happy with the strength I've gained losing the first 22lbs and I doubt that will change losing the last 10. Everyone's body IS different...so it's ridiculous for you to speak to me the way you did as if you know my body better than I do. I put in a lot of hard work based on both science and my body and there's nothing helpful nor informative in your post. I look and feel fantastic now and I'm sorry that you're hoping that will change 10 lbs from now.
Despite your nasty attitude I will enjoy and see results from my Monday regime starting with
9:15am - Pilates (1 hour)
10:30am - Weight Room (1 1/2 hours)
12:00pm - Les Mills BodyPump (1 hour)
1:15pm - Les Mills BodyFlow (1 hour)
2:30pm - Dry Sauna (30 minutes)
3:00pm - Swim Laps (30 minutes)
Tuesday is even better! As you can see...I spend 5 hours on strength training and thats plenty to maintain existing muscle as well as gain a bit. And I have to eat way more than I want or need because I have so many exercise calories. There won't be a "hard way" or lesson because I'm doing it right, feel great, and getting results. If I lose a little muscle...so what? I'll get it back in as matter of weeks because I'm highly disciplined and always will be. I'm sorry that bothers you for some bizarre reason...but if you get your jollies hoping for someone to fail....thats your issue. Not mine.
You spend 6 hours in the gym every day?4 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »PowerliftingMom wrote: »You shouldn't be in a calorie deficit for more than 3-4 months at a time. Do a maintenance diet for a few weeks, then you can go back to a calorie deficit.
why shouldnt someone be in a deficit more than 3-4 months?,any info on this?
I've actually read a lot about how one should eat at a calorie deficit for 10 to 12 weeks and then eat at maintenance for 2 weeks then repeat until you reach your goal weight. Something about resetting your metabolism..
I was going to eat at maintenance for a week since I wasn't paying attention and under eating which is bad itself but when you have Crohns it's even worse. But decided to just add 200 calories to my allowance everyday and make sure to eat all of my calories regardless if I don't have a appetite.
I don't know what I'm going to do when I do finally have to go on maintenance. I can barely eat the 1330 I'm suppose to. I've never been a big eater and all my weight gain was from having to be completely sedentary due to a heart issue and a Crohns medication change that made me blow up.
you cant reset your metabolism though. it either works or it doesnt(if it doesnt you're already dead).. now for some if they eat in a deficit say for a period of time and end up with adaptive thermogenesis then sometimes eating more calories or taking a break helps with that.Im sorry you have crohns I know nothing about it really. I have taken breaks from eating in a deficit many times and I dont see where it made a difference in anything. I just came off a winter break in march/april. only real way to boost metabolism is through exercise or building muscle.
There are some advantages to taking an occasional break from a deficit: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html/3 -
Your idea to eat more is good.
Given your hours of exercise you should be eating a LOT more than 1700.
1700 sounds like a sedentary TDEE.
Sedentary means less than ~45 minutes of non sitting/non lying down activity IN TOTAL for the day.1 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »PowerliftingMom wrote: »You shouldn't be in a calorie deficit for more than 3-4 months at a time. Do a maintenance diet for a few weeks, then you can go back to a calorie deficit.
why shouldnt someone be in a deficit more than 3-4 months?,any info on this?
I've actually read a lot about how one should eat at a calorie deficit for 10 to 12 weeks and then eat at maintenance for 2 weeks then repeat until you reach your goal weight. Something about resetting your metabolism..
I was going to eat at maintenance for a week since I wasn't paying attention and under eating which is bad itself but when you have Crohns it's even worse. But decided to just add 200 calories to my allowance everyday and make sure to eat all of my calories regardless if I don't have a appetite.
I don't know what I'm going to do when I do finally have to go on maintenance. I can barely eat the 1330 I'm suppose to. I've never been a big eater and all my weight gain was from having to be completely sedentary due to a heart issue and a Crohns medication change that made me blow up.
So sorry for the health struggles you are and have experienced. I would suggest trying both. Take a 10 day break and then up calories. Just upping calories alone will either prevent or blunt the effects of hormone reset. I understand though the challenges of that when eating more is difficult. Maybe a focus on high calorie foods like avocados or a high calorie powder like Gain?0 -
No nasty attitude here. Nor any lack of comprehension. Just concern and a realization based on your responses that you are not open to considering input. Your choice. You will either suffer the consequences or reap the benefits (in which case you can publish the hot new fat loss book and make your fortune ;-) )Despite your nasty attitude
I will suggest however that when you float out in plain sight a 2 lb per week deficit, it is going to draw attention as it is generally considered a poor practice with risks associated. When you do that, you may want to pull on your big girl pants and accept the likelihood that you will draw differing points of view and accept that without needing to be insulting. Just a thought.
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »PowerliftingMom wrote: »You shouldn't be in a calorie deficit for more than 3-4 months at a time. Do a maintenance diet for a few weeks, then you can go back to a calorie deficit.
why shouldnt someone be in a deficit more than 3-4 months?,any info on this?
I've actually read a lot about how one should eat at a calorie deficit for 10 to 12 weeks and then eat at maintenance for 2 weeks then repeat until you reach your goal weight. Something about resetting your metabolism..
I was going to eat at maintenance for a week since I wasn't paying attention and under eating which is bad itself but when you have Crohns it's even worse. But decided to just add 200 calories to my allowance everyday and make sure to eat all of my calories regardless if I don't have a appetite.
I don't know what I'm going to do when I do finally have to go on maintenance. I can barely eat the 1330 I'm suppose to. I've never been a big eater and all my weight gain was from having to be completely sedentary due to a heart issue and a Crohns medication change that made me blow up.
you cant reset your metabolism though. it either works or it doesnt(if it doesnt you're already dead).. now for some if they eat in a deficit say for a period of time and end up with adaptive thermogenesis then sometimes eating more calories or taking a break helps with that.Im sorry you have crohns I know nothing about it really. I have taken breaks from eating in a deficit many times and I dont see where it made a difference in anything. I just came off a winter break in march/april. only real way to boost metabolism is through exercise or building muscle.
There are some advantages to taking an occasional break from a deficit: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html/
Im not discounting taking a break at all. but it doesnt reset your metabolism. I have taken several breaks over the last few years.
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JerSchmare wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »PowerliftingMom wrote: »You shouldn't be in a calorie deficit for more than 3-4 months at a time. Do a maintenance diet for a few weeks, then you can go back to a calorie deficit.
why shouldnt someone be in a deficit more than 3-4 months?,any info on this?
I've actually read a lot about how one should eat at a calorie deficit for 10 to 12 weeks and then eat at maintenance for 2 weeks then repeat until you reach your goal weight. Something about resetting your metabolism..
I was going to eat at maintenance for a week since I wasn't paying attention and under eating which is bad itself but when you have Crohns it's even worse. But decided to just add 200 calories to my allowance everyday and make sure to eat all of my calories regardless if I don't have a appetite.
I don't know what I'm going to do when I do finally have to go on maintenance. I can barely eat the 1330 I'm suppose to. I've never been a big eater and all my weight gain was from having to be completely sedentary due to a heart issue and a Crohns medication change that made me blow up.
you cant reset your metabolism though. it either works or it doesnt(if it doesnt you're already dead).. now for some if they eat in a deficit say for a period of time and end up with adaptive thermogenesis then sometimes eating more calories or taking a break helps with that.Im sorry you have crohns I know nothing about it really. I have taken breaks from eating in a deficit many times and I dont see where it made a difference in anything. I just came off a winter break in march/april. only real way to boost metabolism is through exercise or building muscle.
Did you read the article that is posted in this thread? That's where that information is coming from. Please read the article.
which article was that? a few was posted.0 -
Maybe someone with an Apple Watch can answer why it doesn't give the OP calories for her 8,800 steps when she is set on Sedentary?
@alid8333 if there isn't a workaround for this, do bump your activity level up. And with only 18 pounds to lose, do consider changing your weekly weight loss goal to a half pound per week in the very near future.
I myself haven't felt the need for a diet break because my deficit is moderate and I eat at maintenance for a few days every month premenstrually and during my heavy days.
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