Can I accidentally bulk?
llaurenmarie
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Okay I admit I did a little "click-baity" thing.
But I've at least gotten my gym routine back where I am lifting heavy. Walking as cardio.
My eating is still pretty out of control so as long as I'm eating at a surplus.. can I expect recomp? sumo wrestler bod?
Yes my goal is to get it under control but what if I don't?
But I've at least gotten my gym routine back where I am lifting heavy. Walking as cardio.
My eating is still pretty out of control so as long as I'm eating at a surplus.. can I expect recomp? sumo wrestler bod?
Yes my goal is to get it under control but what if I don't?
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If you're eating a surplus of calories and lifting you will put on both muscle and fat...the bigger the surplus, the more fat you'll put on.0
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Makes sense.cwolfman13 wrote: »If you're eating a surplus of calories and lifting you will put on both muscle and fat...the bigger the surplus, the more fat you'll put on.
Was kind of hoping for a butt with these added squats.0 -
llaurenmarie wrote: »
Makes sense.cwolfman13 wrote: »If you're eating a surplus of calories and lifting you will put on both muscle and fat...the bigger the surplus, the more fat you'll put on.
Was kind of hoping for a butt with these added squats.
It's not that you're not going to get a butt, it's that while eating a surplus you can't expect to put on all muscle even when you're doing a lot of heavy lifting. Otherwise a "sumo wrestler bod" would be like Arnold in his prime. They do a tremendous amount of exercise every day, but clearly much of their weight is not muscle. (Much more of it is muscle than you might think, though, and their BF% is nowhere near as high as you'd think. Sorry, but you've run into the one sumo fan on this site.)
This is why bodybuilders go through cycles of bulk and cut. Bulking builds the muscle and adds fat; cutting reduces the fact while preserving much of the muscle.2 -
Haha, well hey no offense. Thanks for your input.llaurenmarie wrote: »
Makes sense.cwolfman13 wrote: »If you're eating a surplus of calories and lifting you will put on both muscle and fat...the bigger the surplus, the more fat you'll put on.
Was kind of hoping for a butt with these added squats.
It's not that you're not going to get a butt, it's that while eating a surplus you can't expect to put on all muscle even when you're lifting heavy every day. Otherwise a "sumo wrestler bod" would be like Arnold in his prime. They do a tremendous amount of exercise every day, but clearly much of their weight is not muscle. (Much more of it is muscle than you might think, though, and their BF% is nowhere near as high as you'd think. Sorry, but you've run into the one sumo fan on this site.)
This is why bodybuilders go through cycles of bulk and cut. Bulking builds the muscle and adds fat; cutting reduces the fact while preserving much of the muscle.
I will have to cut my calories down for my muscle to start showing.
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You can put on some muscle but depending on how much extra you are taking in as well as your current bodyfat % can affect how much fat vs muscle you gain.0
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Today I'm at 500cal over(and this is a good day). I will try harder tomorrow.0
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llaurenmarie wrote: »Today I'm at 500cal over(and this is a good day). I will try harder tomorrow.
Over maintenance or over your deficit?0 -
Technically my base is 1200 but Fitbit gave me 700 more for gym and walking(it's usually spot on and I've lost before using those numbers) But yeah I'm at 2400 intake today.0
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llaurenmarie wrote: »Technically my base is 1200 but Fitbit gave me 700 more for gym and walking(it's usually spot on and I've lost before using those numbers) But yeah I'm at 2400 intake today.
So maintenance then0 -
You going anywhere with this?TavistockToad wrote: »llaurenmarie wrote: »Technically my base is 1200 but Fitbit gave me 700 more for gym and walking(it's usually spot on and I've lost before using those numbers) But yeah I'm at 2400 intake today.
So maintenance then
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llaurenmarie wrote: »
You going anywhere with this?TavistockToad wrote: »llaurenmarie wrote: »Technically my base is 1200 but Fitbit gave me 700 more for gym and walking(it's usually spot on and I've lost before using those numbers) But yeah I'm at 2400 intake today.
So maintenance then
Just pointing out that you have eaten at maintenance...4 -
llaurenmarie wrote: »
You going anywhere with this?TavistockToad wrote: »llaurenmarie wrote: »Technically my base is 1200 but Fitbit gave me 700 more for gym and walking(it's usually spot on and I've lost before using those numbers) But yeah I'm at 2400 intake today.
So maintenance then
just pointing out that you're eating maintenance...most people wouldn't call maintenance level of calories "out of control"...
when you said your eating was out of control, most of us assumed you were eating well above maintenance...4 -
I have done all my bulking while "trying" to maintain or lose weight. Turned out I liked eating and heavy lifting much more than I cared about getting smaller. And yes, my butt got pretty great from all the squats and food! How did you choose 1200 as a calorie goal anyway? That may be too low and set you up for constant "failure" when really you're probably eating close to what you should in order to fuel performance of any kind.6
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Gotcha, no most days are way more than that. Probably 4k? But yeah I wanna reel it in and maybe have something to show for my lifting.cwolfman13 wrote: »
just pointing out that you're eating maintenance...most people wouldn't call maintenance level of calories "out of control"...llaurenmarie wrote: »
You going anywhere with this?TavistockToad wrote: »llaurenmarie wrote: »Technically my base is 1200 but Fitbit gave me 700 more for gym and walking(it's usually spot on and I've lost before using those numbers) But yeah I'm at 2400 intake today.
So maintenance then
when you said your eating was out of control, most of us assumed you were eating well above maintenance...
I said out of control because I'm on a medication that makes me have crazing cravings and I really do feel out of control.
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I didn't really choose it. Have been very up and down with being on or off the wagon. It helped me for about two weeks then I binged again. Can't really get a handle on it.I have done all my bulking while "trying" to maintain or lose weight. Turned out I liked eating and heavy lifting much more than I cared about getting smaller. And yes, my butt got pretty great from all the squats and food! How did you choose 1200 as a calorie goal anyway? That may be too low and set you up for constant "failure" when really you're probably eating close to what you should in order to fuel performance of any kind.
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llaurenmarie wrote: »
I didn't really choose it. Have been very up and down with being on or off the wagon. It helped me for about two weeks then I binged again. Can't really get a handle on it.I have done all my bulking while "trying" to maintain or lose weight. Turned out I liked eating and heavy lifting much more than I cared about getting smaller. And yes, my butt got pretty great from all the squats and food! How did you choose 1200 as a calorie goal anyway? That may be too low and set you up for constant "failure" when really you're probably eating close to what you should in order to fuel performance of any kind.
Try sticking to maintenance for a few weeks and then reduce your cals by 50 a week1 -
Thank you. This seems more practical than trying to lose fast.TavistockToad wrote: »llaurenmarie wrote: »
I didn't really choose it. Have been very up and down with being on or off the wagon. It helped me for about two weeks then I binged again. Can't really get a handle on it.I have done all my bulking while "trying" to maintain or lose weight. Turned out I liked eating and heavy lifting much more than I cared about getting smaller. And yes, my butt got pretty great from all the squats and food! How did you choose 1200 as a calorie goal anyway? That may be too low and set you up for constant "failure" when really you're probably eating close to what you should in order to fuel performance of any kind.
Try sticking to maintenance for a few weeks and then reduce your cals by 50 a week
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Whatever you do, don't take creatine.0
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Caporegiem wrote: »Whatever you do, don't take creatine.
What is that? Lol0 -
I "accidentally" bulked.
I had gained a lot of weight, started lifting, and kept on gaining for a year or so. I think I gained around 30 lbs that year, and maybe 5 lbs of it was muscle. I looked awful.
So I wouldn't really recommend it.....
By the time I lose all the extra body fat I'll probably lose a fair amount of that muscle in the process.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »If you're eating a surplus of calories and lifting you will put on both muscle and fat...the bigger the surplus, the more fat you'll put on.
The big caveat here is lifting, there's a difference between lifting weights up and down and thinking you'll gain muscle doing this AND lifting heavier and heavier things up and down, getting stronger, and actually gaining muscle. You NEED a properly structured progressive overload lifting program. You must lift at an Effective volume, one that triggers muscle growth, otherwise marathoners would be JACKED.2 -
llaurenmarie wrote: »Caporegiem wrote: »Whatever you do, don't take creatine.
What is that? Lol
If you must know....
On a cold Friday afternoon, I had come home from school. I had been thinking of the gym all day. I was hungry, didn't have any lunch. In fact, I didn't eat because I spent the money. For the past month I was saving up for something. Something special which I bought at GNC. I was surprised they didn't ask for ID; I was pretty sure the cashier noticed how nervous I was. Anyways, my mom asked my how my day was when I got home, but I ignored her. I have more important things to do. I run to the bathroom and unpack my bag. In my school bag is a white plastic bag from GNC. I open the bag, first removing the receipt and flushing it down the toilet to get rid of the evidence. My heart was racing now. I unpack the creatine monster from the bag.
I wonder what people will be asking me when they see that I will be 50lbs heavier. Should I say I was just eating a lot? I remove the label from the tub and tear it into a thousand small pieces. I flush that down the toilet, too. It is time now. I run up to my room when my mom ask me what I am holding. I panic, sweat drips down my forehead and my teeth chatter. "Mom, it's just for a school project". "What project?" "I don't know mom I just started it!". A tear runs down my cheek. I run upstairs and open the creatine, scooping upservings into a clear water bottle. What have I gotten myself into? I fill it with water and drink it. There is no turning back now. The creatine monster is inside me now, it will control me. What should I do if I die? I cant let my family know about this.
I open the creatine tub and throw it all out the window; a white cloud of mysterious dust sparkles into the wind so graciously. I feel the substance taking control of me; I am now the monster. I walk downstairs, its time to work out; time to get big. Now I worry, I don't want to get too big; people will think I use steroids. I do use steroids. No I don't. Creatine. All I see is the weights now, I am almost downstairs when I hear "Do you want a cookie I just baked". I know I do not have time for this **** now. "No mom I do not want a cookie" I walk in the basement and drop to my knees before the weights, tears running down my cheeks. I turn to the right and look at myself in the mirror. Oh god, what have I done?10 -
Caporegiem wrote: »llaurenmarie wrote: »Caporegiem wrote: »Whatever you do, don't take creatine.
What is that? Lol
If you must know....
On a cold Friday afternoon, I had come home from school. I had been thinking of the gym all day. I was hungry, didn't have any lunch. In fact, I didn't eat because I spent the money. For the past month I was saving up for something. Something special which I bought at GNC. I was surprised they didn't ask for ID; I was pretty sure the cashier noticed how nervous I was. Anyways, my mom asked my how my day was when I got home, but I ignored her. I have more important things to do. I run to the bathroom and unpack my bag. In my school bag is a white plastic bag from GNC. I open the bag, first removing the receipt and flushing it down the toilet to get rid of the evidence. My heart was racing now. I unpack the creatine monster from the bag.
I wonder what people will be asking me when they see that I will be 50lbs heavier. Should I say I was just eating a lot? I remove the label from the tub and tear it into a thousand small pieces. I flush that down the toilet, too. It is time now. I run up to my room when my mom ask me what I am holding. I panic, sweat drips down my forehead and my teeth chatter. "Mom, it's just for a school project". "What project?" "I don't know mom I just started it!". A tear runs down my cheek. I run upstairs and open the creatine, scooping upservings into a clear water bottle. What have I gotten myself into? I fill it with water and drink it. There is no turning back now. The creatine monster is inside me now, it will control me. What should I do if I die? I cant let my family know about this.
I open the creatine tub and throw it all out the window; a white cloud of mysterious dust sparkles into the wind so graciously. I feel the substance taking control of me; I am now the monster. I walk downstairs, its time to work out; time to get big. Now I worry, I don't want to get too big; people will think I use steroids. I do use steroids. No I don't. Creatine. All I see is the weights now, I am almost downstairs when I hear "Do you want a cookie I just baked". I know I do not have time for this **** now. "No mom I do not want a cookie" I walk in the basement and drop to my knees before the weights, tears running down my cheeks. I turn to the right and look at myself in the mirror. Oh god, what have I done?
Best post ever.0 -
Too funny0
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Edge of my seat the entire time.Caporegiem wrote: »llaurenmarie wrote: »Caporegiem wrote: »Whatever you do, don't take creatine.
What is that? Lol
If you must know....
On a cold Friday afternoon, I had come home from school. I had been thinking of the gym all day. I was hungry, didn't have any lunch. In fact, I didn't eat because I spent the money. For the past month I was saving up for something. Something special which I bought at GNC. I was surprised they didn't ask for ID; I was pretty sure the cashier noticed how nervous I was. Anyways, my mom asked my how my day was when I got home, but I ignored her. I have more important things to do. I run to the bathroom and unpack my bag. In my school bag is a white plastic bag from GNC. I open the bag, first removing the receipt and flushing it down the toilet to get rid of the evidence. My heart was racing now. I unpack the creatine monster from the bag.
I wonder what people will be asking me when they see that I will be 50lbs heavier. Should I say I was just eating a lot? I remove the label from the tub and tear it into a thousand small pieces. I flush that down the toilet, too. It is time now. I run up to my room when my mom ask me what I am holding. I panic, sweat drips down my forehead and my teeth chatter. "Mom, it's just for a school project". "What project?" "I don't know mom I just started it!". A tear runs down my cheek. I run upstairs and open the creatine, scooping upservings into a clear water bottle. What have I gotten myself into? I fill it with water and drink it. There is no turning back now. The creatine monster is inside me now, it will control me. What should I do if I die? I cant let my family know about this.
I open the creatine tub and throw it all out the window; a white cloud of mysterious dust sparkles into the wind so graciously. I feel the substance taking control of me; I am now the monster. I walk downstairs, its time to work out; time to get big. Now I worry, I don't want to get too big; people will think I use steroids. I do use steroids. No I don't. Creatine. All I see is the weights now, I am almost downstairs when I hear "Do you want a cookie I just baked". I know I do not have time for this **** now. "No mom I do not want a cookie" I walk in the basement and drop to my knees before the weights, tears running down my cheeks. I turn to the right and look at myself in the mirror. Oh god, what have I done?
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Caporegiem wrote: »llaurenmarie wrote: »Caporegiem wrote: »Whatever you do, don't take creatine.
What is that? Lol
If you must know....
On a cold Friday afternoon, I had come home from school. I had been thinking of the gym all day. I was hungry, didn't have any lunch. In fact, I didn't eat because I spent the money. For the past month I was saving up for something. Something special which I bought at GNC. I was surprised they didn't ask for ID; I was pretty sure the cashier noticed how nervous I was. Anyways, my mom asked my how my day was when I got home, but I ignored her. I have more important things to do. I run to the bathroom and unpack my bag. In my school bag is a white plastic bag from GNC. I open the bag, first removing the receipt and flushing it down the toilet to get rid of the evidence. My heart was racing now. I unpack the creatine monster from the bag.
I wonder what people will be asking me when they see that I will be 50lbs heavier. Should I say I was just eating a lot? I remove the label from the tub and tear it into a thousand small pieces. I flush that down the toilet, too. It is time now. I run up to my room when my mom ask me what I am holding. I panic, sweat drips down my forehead and my teeth chatter. "Mom, it's just for a school project". "What project?" "I don't know mom I just started it!". A tear runs down my cheek. I run upstairs and open the creatine, scooping upservings into a clear water bottle. What have I gotten myself into? I fill it with water and drink it. There is no turning back now. The creatine monster is inside me now, it will control me. What should I do if I die? I cant let my family know about this.
I open the creatine tub and throw it all out the window; a white cloud of mysterious dust sparkles into the wind so graciously. I feel the substance taking control of me; I am now the monster. I walk downstairs, its time to work out; time to get big. Now I worry, I don't want to get too big; people will think I use steroids. I do use steroids. No I don't. Creatine. All I see is the weights now, I am almost downstairs when I hear "Do you want a cookie I just baked". I know I do not have time for this **** now. "No mom I do not want a cookie" I walk in the basement and drop to my knees before the weights, tears running down my cheeks. I turn to the right and look at myself in the mirror. Oh god, what have I done?
I think I love you.
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I never knew that creatine has been my problem all this time! Thank you.1
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I still don't know what it is!Katiebear_81 wrote: »I never knew that creatine has been my problem all this time! Thank you.
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llaurenmarie wrote: »
I still don't know what it is!Katiebear_81 wrote: »I never knew that creatine has been my problem all this time! Thank you.
Let it stay that way, ignorance is bliss when it comes to creatine. The more you learn about it the more tempting it becomes. I'm a lost soul but you still have a chance.0 -
Caporegiem wrote: »llaurenmarie wrote: »
I still don't know what it is!Katiebear_81 wrote: »I never knew that creatine has been my problem all this time! Thank you.
Let it stay that way, ignorance is bliss when it comes to creatine. The more you learn about it the more tempting it becomes. I'm a lost soul but you still have a chance.
I am assuming for muscle building. I don't even wanna do a google.0
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