Is there an ultimate diet for health, energy and disease prevention?
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In a word, NO0
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »I may as well enjoy the food I eat whilst I'm here; I spent a couple of years stressing about every morsel I put in my mouth, and eating only what I perceived as healthy. It made me the unhealthiest I've ever been...
I think this is really important too. For me, I experiment in part to see what makes eating well (and a big part of that is not gaining weight) easier for me, and also not stressful. I eat a lot of whole foods because I enjoy eating that way more, but if that's stressful I'd say there should be other options to consider. I also like to eat what's in season, and if I started freaking about whether broccoli was superior to cauliflower or kale over spinach and not making decisions based on enjoying food and variety I'd try to check myself. I think part of health is enjoying oneself.1 -
I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.0
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Lots of fruits and veggies, low sugar (cancer cells like sugar), green tea. Check out the blog Crazy, Sexy Cancer by Kris Carr (I think that's her name) and you can see her thoughts. Best of luck.
so eat foods high in sugar, fruits; but at the same time avoid sugar because cancer cells???5 -
I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...6 -
Also, i think being active and fit is important. Not to the point of hurting yourself and wearing your body down, but in moderation as well.1
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OP - here is my suggestion, as a former cancer survivor. Get your body weight to a health weight, find some form of exercise that you enjoy, make sure that you are getting sufficient nutrition, and make sure that you are following up with your oncologist and physician for regular check ups...12
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I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...
That's not true. When something says organic it has to have something like 90-95% of product must be made with no synthetic additives (pesticides, dyes, chemical fertilizers and without genetic engineering) and the remaining percentage must be only used with things off of a certain list. It may be a ploy to get more money, but it does have more "value" in terms of what you are getting which is why it costs more.
I think you may be confusing it with "natural" which is more of a loose term.2 -
OP - here is my suggestion, as a former cancer survivor. Get your body weight to a health weight, find some form of exercise that you enjoy, make sure that you are getting sufficient nutrition, and make sure that you are following up with your oncologist and physician for regular check ups...
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RAD_Fitness wrote: »I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...
That's not true. When something says organic it has to have something like 90-95% of product must be made with no synthetic additives (pesticides, dyes, chemical fertilizers and without genetic engineering) and the remaining percentage must be only used with things off of a certain list. It may be a ploy to get more money, but it does have more "value" in terms of what you are getting which is why it costs more.
I think you may be confusing it with "natural" which is more of a loose term.
They can still use natural pesticides for organic and even so. But if you consider the latest and largest meta-analysis on organic done by Stanford, it doesn't appear to really have any benefit in terms of health when it comes to consuming it. If you like it for taste or whatever, it might be a different story. But I believe taste is more influenced by where it's grown and the soil from there, as compared to something being organic or not.
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2012/09/little-evidence-of-health-benefits-from-organic-foods-study-finds.html9 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...
That's not true. When something says organic it has to have something like 90-95% of product must be made with no synthetic additives (pesticides, dyes, chemical fertilizers and without genetic engineering) and the remaining percentage must be only used with things off of a certain list. It may be a ploy to get more money, but it does have more "value" in terms of what you are getting which is why it costs more.
I think you may be confusing it with "natural" which is more of a loose term.
They can still use natural pesticides for organic and even so. But if you consider the latest and largest meta-analysis on organic done by Stanford, it doesn't appear to really have any benefit in terms of health when it comes to consuming it. If you like it for taste or whatever, it might be a different story. But I believe taste is more influenced by where it's grown and the soil from there, as compared to something being organic or not.
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2012/09/little-evidence-of-health-benefits-from-organic-foods-study-finds.html
Which is why I put "value" in quotations.1 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...
That's not true. When something says organic it has to have something like 90-95% of product must be made with no synthetic additives (pesticides, dyes, chemical fertilizers and without genetic engineering) and the remaining percentage must be only used with things off of a certain list. It may be a ploy to get more money, but it does have more "value" in terms of what you are getting which is why it costs more.
I think you may be confusing it with "natural" which is more of a loose term.
wrong..they still use things like DDT on organic vegetables...see the study that @psuLemon posted4 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...
That's not true. When something says organic it has to have something like 90-95% of product must be made with no synthetic additives (pesticides, dyes, chemical fertilizers and without genetic engineering) and the remaining percentage must be only used with things off of a certain list. It may be a ploy to get more money, but it does have more "value" in terms of what you are getting which is why it costs more.
I think you may be confusing it with "natural" which is more of a loose term.
wrong..they still use things like DDT on organic vegetables...see the study that @psuLemon postedRAD_Fitness wrote: »I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...
That's not true. When something says organic it has to have something like 90-95% of product must be made with no synthetic additives (pesticides, dyes, chemical fertilizers and without genetic engineering) and the remaining percentage must be only used with things off of a certain list. It may be a ploy to get more money, but it does have more "value" in terms of what you are getting which is why it costs more.
I think you may be confusing it with "natural" which is more of a loose term.
wrong..they still use things like DDT on organic vegetables...see the study that @psuLemon posted
Organic food might not completely eliminate, but will greatly reduce your intake of pesticides and chemicals.4 -
Lots of fruits and veggies, low sugar (cancer cells like sugar), green tea. Check out the blog Crazy, Sexy Cancer by Kris Carr (I think that's her name) and you can see her thoughts. Best of luck.
You can always trust cancer and diet advice from the blog of actress and photographer who pedals woo and wants to sell "documentaries" and books over that of your registered dietician, oncologist and the guidance of ACA based on hundreds of scientific studies.12 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...
That's not true. When something says organic it has to have something like 90-95% of product must be made with no synthetic additives (pesticides, dyes, chemical fertilizers and without genetic engineering) and the remaining percentage must be only used with things off of a certain list. It may be a ploy to get more money, but it does have more "value" in terms of what you are getting which is why it costs more.
I think you may be confusing it with "natural" which is more of a loose term.
wrong..they still use things like DDT on organic vegetables...see the study that @psuLemon postedRAD_Fitness wrote: »I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...
That's not true. When something says organic it has to have something like 90-95% of product must be made with no synthetic additives (pesticides, dyes, chemical fertilizers and without genetic engineering) and the remaining percentage must be only used with things off of a certain list. It may be a ploy to get more money, but it does have more "value" in terms of what you are getting which is why it costs more.
I think you may be confusing it with "natural" which is more of a loose term.
wrong..they still use things like DDT on organic vegetables...see the study that @psuLemon posted
Organic food might not completely eliminate, but will greatly reduce your intake of pesticides and chemicals.
everything has chemicals in it....so not worried about "dem chemicalzzz"4 -
RAD_Fitness wrote: »I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...
That's not true. When something says organic it has to have something like 90-95% of product must be made with no synthetic additives (pesticides, dyes, chemical fertilizers and without genetic engineering) and the remaining percentage must be only used with things off of a certain list. It may be a ploy to get more money, but it does have more "value" in terms of what you are getting which is why it costs more.
I think you may be confusing it with "natural" which is more of a loose term.
wrong..they still use things like DDT on organic vegetables...see the study that @psuLemon postedRAD_Fitness wrote: »I'll put my two cents. . I think organic food as much as possible, no hormones, no antibiotics as much as possible. Leafy greens, variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds, avocado for healthy fats. Try to eat as little as possible things with preservatives, artificial colorings and ingredients. Drink teas, coffee, kombucha, milk, mineral water, plain water, avoid sodas and artificially flavored drinks. Eat everything in moderation, meaning from every food group, not excluding anything.
organic foods and vegetables are still treated with pesticides and what not...
most organic foods are just a ploy to get more money out of you...
That's not true. When something says organic it has to have something like 90-95% of product must be made with no synthetic additives (pesticides, dyes, chemical fertilizers and without genetic engineering) and the remaining percentage must be only used with things off of a certain list. It may be a ploy to get more money, but it does have more "value" in terms of what you are getting which is why it costs more.
I think you may be confusing it with "natural" which is more of a loose term.
wrong..they still use things like DDT on organic vegetables...see the study that @psuLemon posted
Organic food might not completely eliminate, but will greatly reduce your intake of pesticides and chemicals.
No exactly. It depends on which food it is. But even so, non organic foods still fall under recommended levels.4 -
theplainvegan wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »
She should be listening to her oncologist.
I agree, I've never asked why she doesn't turn to her oncologist for advice about diet. I personally consult my physician when I have questions related to nutrition.
Side note, unless your physician is trained in nutritional science, they probably know very little. Most have zero education in this science. You'd be better off getting a referral from a dietitian.
100% Agree. My mothers oncologist was not the person we would discuss diet with. But by the time we found it, it was a win that she would be able to eat anything at all.
Ive heard so many suggestions...make sure shes alkaline. Sugar feeds cancer...etc.
Usually when you are being treated by an oncologist- a dietitian is part of your healthcare regimen. But even still, there is no cure for cancer in food. There is no definite diet for prevention. There are the common sense choices, as well as the well studied effects of certain foods/chemicals reaction in your body. But I dont think its something to obsess over to the point that your head is spinning.
Happiness, being at a healthy weight and common sense are your best bets.
Congrats on your remission- what a blessing.6 -
OP - here is my suggestion, as a former cancer survivor. Get your body weight to a health weight, find some form of exercise that you enjoy, make sure that you are getting sufficient nutrition, and make sure that you are following up with your oncologist and physician for regular check ups...
Survivor here also. My oncologist told me that nothing I ate gave me cancer.
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There is no "diet" that helps. You should know that. cancer doesn't care who it picks on, doesn't matter if you are fat, skinny, just right, cancer just does. not. care.
You can be living the healthiest lifestyle in the world, eating veggies, doing it "right" if you are going to get it, you'll get it.
Of course if you are reading this and you are under 26, and have not had a HPV vaccine, what are you waiting for? Get to the Dr and get it! Mine was caused by HPV, its the fastest growing strain, HPV positive. Go get the vaccine!
If I have scared some into doing it, GOOD, because I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.
The HPV vaccine only covers a few strains that cause cancer. it doesnt cover all the strains that can cause cancer so you can still get one of the strains that causes cancer even with the vaccine, its called use condoms, protect yourself .some HPV strains cause no cancer and go away on their own . something like 75% of people in the world have HPV and dont know it and there is no test for it,except for maybe getting abnormal paps and them finding it that way.
if someone wants to get it that is their choice Im not knocking it at all0 -
OP, I totally agree with all the posters who are basically saying eat a varied and nutritious diet that keeps you at a healthy weight while still enjoying the heck out of food, and be as active as possible.
I'm also really fascinated by the "blue zones" (i got the book but haven't read it yet, but have read a lot online). Basically, these are local areas scattered all over the world, with an unusually high number of healthy and active centenarians. While I think what they REALLY have in common is active and social lifestyles, the majority of them have diets based around veggies, whole grains, fish, and legumes in differing percentages.
I suspect finding the healthiest diet is a personal journey that takes a lifetime, and that over-complicating it actually leads you in the wrong direction
Congrats BTW!!! 1
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