Low fat keto

Phatcat313 wrote: »

Anyone doing low fat high protein keto for fat loss?

No such thing as "low fat high protein Keto." The point of following a Keto way of eating is to get at least 60% (if not more! (60-80%!!)) of your daily calories from healthy sources of fat. That means you logically must limit your carbs, leaving protein at moderate levels. Too much protein is converted into glucose in your liver during a process called glucogenesis and as you should know by now, our bodies like to store excess glucose circulating in the blood as body fat. Eating lots of healthy fat tells your body to BURN fat, not store it whereas eating lots of carbs or protein at sufficiently high levels that glucogenesis occurs tells your body to STORE fat.

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doggerland wrote: »

I am doing a ketogenic diet that is low carb and fairly low fat, then higher protein. You do not need to eat higher fat to be in ketosis.

Never said you did. Even those who don't follow a low carb or Keto way of eating...their bodies get into a mild state of nutritional ketosis every night when they sleep. As far as being "fairly low fat"...what exactly does that mean? How many grams of fat do you eat every day and how much of your macro % does that equate to?

I'm doing Keto Now. I'm on day 8 and I've lost 11lbs. They tell you not to limit your fat though because it actually helps you get into Ketosis. Definitely start.

Excess protein converts to glucose, which will prevent dietary ketosis. That doesn't mean you cannot lose weight with that diet; but if ketosis is your goal, then high protein is the wrong method.

That brings up the question: Why are you interested in keto and what do you hope to get from it? Is keto really the right method for your goals? If yes, then you need to primarily use fat for energy.

That doesn't automatically mean eating high fat if you are in a steep deficit and much of your energy is coming from body fat (rather than dietary fat). But if you are not in a steep deficit, then most of your intake will come from fat. In either case, you will need to avoid excessive protein intake if you want to remain in ketosis.

SteamEngine80 wrote: »

It sounds like the protein sparing modified fasting diet. People get really good results if they can tolerate it, but it's not a long term diet unless the dieter is morbidly obese. It's basically 1g protein per lb of bodyweight, nothing else, no carbs or fats other than some leefy greens, multivitamin and fish oil. Then I believe there is a cheat meal midweek, and one low fat, high carb cheat day at the end of the week. I thought about doing it, but decided to go the slower route of calorie counting. Getting too old to suffer that way!

Is it 1g / lb. of body weight or 1g/lb. of lean mass? The second would not be a high protein diet - 1g/lb. of lean mass is moderate. For an obese person, then 1g/lb. total body weight is high protein.

So basically, this diet forces a person to use glycogen and body fat to complement protein intake. The carb cheat day replenishes glycogen and probably adds some fat back again. For some, this could work. Personally, when I was very overweight, I could eat 10K-20K+ calories during a carb cheat day. For someone like me, that would not have worked.